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Postby divideandconquer » Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:26 am

Trump more psychopathic than Hitler, Oxford study finds
https://www.rt.com/uk/356820-trump-psyc ... er-oxford/

US presidential hopeful Donald Trump has more psychopathic traits than Adolf Hitler, a researcher at Oxford University has found.

Psychologist Dr. Kevin Dutton has ranked the psychopathic traits of the Republican candidate and various historical figures using a standard psychometric tool – the Psychopathic Personality Inventory – Revised (PPI-R).

Experts suggested likely scores against a series of questions. Trump scored 171, two points more than Hitler.

Saddam Hussein topped the list, scoring 189, while Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton received a score of 152, putting her in the top 20 percent.

Margaret Thatcher scored 136 points, and Elizabeth I was put at 130.

Dutton says the test scores people on eight traits that contribute to a psychopathic character. They are fearlessness, cold-heartedness, egocentricity, ruthlessness, self-confidence, charisma, dishonesty and deficits in empathy and conscience.

“Some of those traits, such as fearlessness or stress immunity, can be positive. Others, such as blame externalization or being unconcerned about the future, are more likely to be negative. One, cold-heartedness, can contribute to good and bad leadership,” Dutton told the Telegraph.

“Both great and terrible leaders score higher than the general population for psychopathic traits, but it is the mix of those traits that determines success.

“For example, someone who scores highly for being influential, fearless and cold hearted could be a decisive leader who can make dispassionate decisions. If those traits are accompanied by a high score on blaming others, they might be a genocidal demagogue,” he said.

Trump outstripped Hitler on factors such as social influence and fearlessness dominance, while the Nazi dictator scored higher on the Machiavellian egocentricity and cold-heartedness.

While ranking lower than her rival overall, Clinton far exceeded Roman emperor Nero on traits such as “Machiavellian egocentricity.”

“It is interesting that these scores reflect both the praise and the criticism that Trump and Clinton receive.

“In the end, while both score relatively highly, it will be up to voters to decide on whether their mix of positive and negative traits should send them to the Oval Office.”
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:46 pm

The Young Turks’ Uygur Thinks Hannity Advising Trump is Proof They’re Building Media Company

by Lindsey Ellefson | 1:30 pm, August 23rd, 2016 VIDEO 61


The theory that Donald Trump is preparing for a defeat at the polls in November by planning to launch a media company is really picking up momentum.

The rumors started swirling earlier this summer. After a few op-eds came out about the idea last week, CNN tackled it this weekend. Now that Fox News’ Sean Hannity has revealed himself to be informally advising Trump, The Young Turks took it on, too:


Cenk Uygur mentioned in a broadcast that Hannity, Steve Bannon, and Roger Ailes, all of whom have been rumored — with varying levels of confirmation — are big in conservative media. That, then, could mean that Trump really is gearing up to launch a media company and bring all of his followers and voters along with him.

“He’s gathered together here a little bit of a posse of conservative media,” Uygur explained. “Now, part of the reason — people think — for that is at least [the] possibility that afterwards, they’re going to start their own media company and they view this as just a money-making exercise. ‘Let’s gather up as large an audience as we can. Even if we lose, even if we get blown out, who cares? If you’ve got 40% of the country on your side and you can monetize that through the media, well, we’ll be in great shape.'”

Trump may well be going the route of Sarah Palin, who launched a short-lived subscription service for videos of her talking last year.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/the-youn ... a-company/







Donald Trump regularly incites political violence and is a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, racist, misogynist and birther who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims — 1.6 billion members of an entire religion — from entering the U.S.
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They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Nordic » Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:58 pm

seemslikeadream » Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:15 am wrote:here's one really good thing about Trump

He's brought to the forefront how many racists there are in this country

and who would vote for one

GTK


Sure Hitler was a racist but I like his foreign policy so I'm voting for him

Sure Hitler was a racist but it won't spill over into his foreign policy :roll: :P :P :P :P :P

Sure Hitler lies sometimes but I believe he wouldn't lie about the stuff that is important to me


Sorry but that's pure Godwinism.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:04 pm

I know...I am sorry that I compared Trump to Hitler

apologies to Hilter


Trump more psychopathic than Hitler, Oxford study finds

Do you still believe every thing that a serial liar/rampant xenophobe/racist/misogynist says....like his foreign policy :roll: ?

What does the foreign policy of a serial liar/rampant xenophobe/racist/misogynist look like?
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Tue Aug 23, 2016 6:11 pm

seemslikeadream » Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:46 pm wrote:The Young Turks’ Uygur Thinks Hannity Advising Trump is Proof They’re Building Media Company

by Lindsey Ellefson | 1:30 pm, August 23rd, 2016 VIDEO 61


The theory that Donald Trump is preparing for a defeat at the polls in November by planning to launch a media company is really picking up momentum.

The rumors started swirling earlier this summer. After a few op-eds came out about the idea last week, CNN tackled it this weekend. Now that Fox News’ Sean Hannity has revealed himself to be informally advising Trump, The Young Turks took it on, too:


Cenk Uygur mentioned in a broadcast that Hannity, Steve Bannon, and Roger Ailes, all of whom have been rumored — with varying levels of confirmation — are big in conservative media. That, then, could mean that Trump really is gearing up to launch a media company and bring all of his followers and voters along with him.

“He’s gathered together here a little bit of a posse of conservative media,” Uygur explained. “Now, part of the reason — people think — for that is at least [the] possibility that afterwards, they’re going to start their own media company and they view this as just a money-making exercise. ‘Let’s gather up as large an audience as we can. Even if we lose, even if we get blown out, who cares? If you’ve got 40% of the country on your side and you can monetize that through the media, well, we’ll be in great shape.'”

Trump may well be going the route of Sarah Palin, who launched a short-lived subscription service for videos of her talking last year.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/the-youn ... a-company/







Donald Trump regularly incites political violence and is a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, racist, misogynist and birther who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims — 1.6 billion members of an entire religion — from entering the U.S.


More from Cenk on that subject: whether he wins or loses, Trump's goal is to "monetize" his political base.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3Stbmbyxn0
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Harvey » Tue Aug 23, 2016 6:46 pm

Trump or Clinton?

I reject the premise.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby brekin » Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:03 pm

Harvey » Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:46 pm wrote:Trump or Clinton?

I reject the premise.


Sorry Harvey but you are on a plane, the menu is either the Fish dinner or the Chicken dinner (or the low-sodium diabetic, vegan meal for that microdemographic). There is no getting off the plane, and you can subsist on peanuts, refuse to eat, or get hungry and choose one of the three, but either way dinner will be served.



Yes, I know, the following story is from the "New York Times" (by way of CNN) and all that may mean. Even if you take it as a press release directly from the CIA, I still think it is relevant, perhaps even more relevant as they are basically saying now, Russia is hacking specifically Democratic party affiliated orgs. Why? Because it seems even if they aren't supposedly in league with Trump, they would in someway benefit more from a Trump presidency than a Clinton presidency. And I seriously doubt because our Russian heroes believe because Clinton = War with Russia, & Trump = Brand New Day.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/23/politics/ ... times-fbi/

First on CNN: FBI investigating Russian hack of New York Times reporters, others

(CNN)Hackers thought to be working for Russian intelligence have carried out a series of cyber breaches targeting reporters at the New York Times and other US news organizations, according to US officials briefed on the matter.
The intrusions, detected in recent months, are under investigation by the FBI and other US security agencies. Investigators so far believe that Russian intelligence is likely behind the attacks and that Russian hackers are targeting news organizations as part of a broader series of hacks that also have focused on Democratic Party organizations, the officials said.

The FBI declined to comment and a spokesperson for The New York Times would not confirm the attacks or the investigation."Like most news organizations we are vigilant about guarding against attempts to hack into our systems," said New York Times Co. spokeswoman Eileen Murphy. "There are a variety of approaches we take up to and including working with outside investigators and law enforcement. We won't comment on any specific attempt to gain unauthorized access to The Times."

Wikileaks posts hacked DNC voicemails
The breaches targeting reporters and news organizations are part of an apparent surge in cyber attacks in the past year against entities beyond US government agencies. US intelligence officials believe the picture emerging from the series of recent intrusions is that Russian spy agencies are using a wave of cyber attacks, including against think-tanks in Washington, to gather intelligence from a broad array of non-governmental organizations with windows into the US political system.
News organizations are considered top targets because they can yield valuable intelligence on reporter contacts in the government, as well as communications and unpublished works with sensitive information, US government officials believe.
The Times has brought in private sector security investigators who are working with US national security officials to assess the damage and determine how the hackers got in, according to the US officials.

Attention has grown on the hacks thought to be carried out by Russians since Wikileaks released a trove of emails stolen from the DNC in the weekend before the Democratic Party's convention to nominate Hillary Clinton for president. US intelligence officials say there is strong evidence showing Russian intelligence behind the DNC hack. The Clinton campaign has claimed the hack as proof that the Russians are trying to aid the election of Donald Trump.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:09 pm

THE BILLIONAIRE FATHER-DAUGHTER TEAM BEHIND TRUMP’S APOCALYPTIC TURN TO THE ALT-RIGHT
The idea to hire Breitbart’s Stephen Bannon reportedly began with two conservative mega-donors in the Hamptons last weekend.
BY EMILY JANE FOXAUGUST 18, 2016 8:52 AM

By Darren Hauck/Getty Images.
Heads spun Tuesday when Donald Trumpdecided that the best course for righting his campaign’s sinking ship would be to bring on alt-right newsman Stephen Bannon as chief executive. It was a decision that appeared to double down on some of the Trump’s campaigns most fringe elements and self-destructive impulses—which seem to be the reason the ship has been sinking in the first place—leaving many wondering: Who thought this was a good idea?

The answer, according to several reports, is the conservative, anti-establishment, aggressively anti-Clinton hedge-fund billionaire Robert Mercer, and his daughter Rebekah. The Mercers, who initially put $13.5 million into a PAC that supported Ted Cruz’s presidential bid, reportedly surprised their friends when they swung their support behind Trump after the Texas senator dropped out. According to Bloomberg, Rebekah met with Ivanka Trump (the campaign’s de facto First Lady ) and her husband, Jared Kusher (until yesterday, the campaign’s de facto manager) earlier this year to win over her family’s support.

By the time Cruz refused to endorse Trump onstage at the Republican National Convention, the notoriously private family released a statement in support of the billionaire developer that concluded, “We need all hands on deck to ensure that Mr. Trump prevails.” For the Mercers, that apparently included bringing Bannon on board. Rebekah reportedly broached the topic with a downtrodden Trump at a Hamptons fund-raiser hosted by Jets owner Woody Johnson over the weekend, according to The Washington Post. The Post cites three sources who say that she confronted him about reports that his staffers were urging him to tone down his rhetoric and professionalize his campaign; he reportedly asked her how he could fill his inner circle with voices that more closely mirrored his own. That’s when she brought up Bannon’s name. By Sunday, the two were golfing together at the Trump National Golf Club in New Jersey. By Tuesday, it was announced that the Breitbart exec had the job.

The Mercers’ ties to Bannon run deep. According to Bloomberg, the family first invested $10 million in Breitbart News in 2011, and later worked together to turn the book Clinton Cash—a damning look at the Clinton's foundation—into a Mercer-financed documentary. (Bloomberg noted that Mercer sent his 203-foot yacht to its premier at Cannes). Bannon also reportedly serves as an adviser to one of the family’s advocacy groups in New York, which shares an address with Cambridge Analytica, a data firm in which the Mercers are investors. It just so happens that the Trump campaign recently decided to use the firm’s services, according to The Hill, which cited the decision as another example of the Mercers’ influence within the Trump campaign.

This kind of influence between wealthy donor and candidate is the exact sort of relationship for which Trump has slammed Hillary Clinton in the past. But it makes sense that a New York billionaire so swayed by his own daughter would take a cue from another New York billionaire father-daughter political partnership. (Rebekah, according to The Hill, also happens to live in one of Trump’s buildings, as Ivanka also does.) While Trump's daughter is off yachting with interesting company in Croatia, it seems another billionaire heiress has caught his ear.
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/08/ ... hen-bannon



Donald Trump money man Robert Mercer funding TV attack on John McCain
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/08/ ... hen-bannon
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Harvey » Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:12 pm

The FBI declined to comment and a spokesperson for The New York Times would not confirm the attacks or the investigation.


In other words, nothing happened. :wink:
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Nordic » Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:14 pm

seemslikeadream » Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:04 pm wrote:I know...I am sorry that I compared Trump to Hitler

apologies to Hilter


Trump more psychopathic than Hitler, Oxford study finds

Do you still believe every thing that a serial liar/rampant xenophobe/racist/misogynist says....like his foreign policy :roll: ?

What does the foreign policy of a serial liar/rampant xenophobe/racist/misogynist look like?


I could legitimately and rationally answer your question but I'd be repeating myself about ten times over.

I understand your hatred for Trump but let me ask you this -- would you seriously rather have Hillary "blackpeople are super predators" Clinton? And the TPP (assuredly no guesswork involved) and more wars?

Are you an American? Serious question, I always assumed you were but I've realized I don't know for sure.

Are you voting for a real human being like Jill Stein or is your hatred of Trump so great that you consider that a vote for Trump?
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby 82_28 » Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:43 pm

Shhhh! When I was a tike I was told that you never told anyone who you voted for and you also didn't ask (I think just on voting day). Something like that. But hey, it's the 90's now! I'm with Jill Stein.

I don't know where that request of decorum came from. I think it was to keep things polite. I'm too young to know anything about that other than that I noticed it being important. Maybe it's because my entire family has always been D in largely R regions. Denver itself has changed I will say.

Fuck, I dunno.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Grizzly » Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:55 pm

I'm still down with: Giant Meteor 2016!
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:15 pm

Grizzly » Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:55 pm wrote:I'm still down with: Giant Meteor 2016!


Which has a compelling mathematical -- or at least, topological -- logic behind it. Once things get sufficiently diffuse, it takes a catastrophe to reset the equilibrium.

Yet idealizing either pole of the eternal pendulum might be missing the point, eh? Once equilibrium is reset, it will only decay back into chaos. (Well, apparent chaos. Perhaps neither Truth is an actual Revelation(s).)

Something something, constructal law x Duverger's law
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby backtoiam » Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:05 am

wombat said

Which has a compelling mathematical -- or at least, topological -- logic behind it. Once things get sufficiently diffuse, it takes a catastrophe to reset the equilibrium.

Yet idealizing either pole of the eternal pendulum might be missing the point, eh? Once equilibrium is reset, it will only decay back into chaos. (Well, apparent chaos. Perhaps neither Truth is an actual Revelation(s).)


Absolutely Sir:



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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby backtoiam » Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:46 am

SLAD you have been my favorite posters since 2005 but what are you missing about the fact that the binary between democrat and republican was erased loonngggg ago?

They are the same. Are you wearing Misogyny blinders? There are other issues you know? Don't shoot yourself ok?



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