9/11 Truth Movement vs. 9/11 Truth

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Postby 8bitagent » Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:12 pm

MacCruiskeen wrote:Having set the scene with admirable dramatic economy, Taibbi moves on smartly to position himself in the storyline as a relaxed and likable counterweight to the gloomy Teuton, Haupt. In the course of a single line, he manages to name-check a book few of his readers will have read but many will have heard of, as well as a popular MTV show and the totally hot new media phenomenon MySpace, thereby establishing his credentials for the nervous Rolling Stone readership: Matt Taibbi is smart, hip, literate and media-savvy! He's fast and furious, he's totally irreverent, and he's funny as hell! Matt takes no prisoners! He's your guide to the urban jungle! Wouldn't you LOVE to be like him? Well, thank you, Rolling Stone; but no. Taibbi's humour is laboured, ingratiating, ego-driven, intellectually lazy, and essentially factory-built. Nothing really distinguishes this stuff from the work of P. J. O'Rourke.


IT almost feels like the "anti war anti Bush" American liberals HATE 9/11 truthers more than the right wing

The Republicans merely laugh at us, the left seems to genuinely get upset. As if, we're stealing their thunder

We live in BIZARRO world...in a world where the liberals question EVERYTHING what the government...especially Bush government tells us, when it comes to the big one...the impetus for EVERYTHING they whine about, they remain silent

It's, as if the liberals NEED 9/11 more than the right wing. The right wing has Iraq, but the liberals need to believe Afghanistan is justified...and 9/11 was truly the work of merely Islamic terrorists

Thats why the liberal messiah Obama can get away with planning to unilaterally attack Pakistan, and the "anti war left" goes gaga. Most liberals
are hypocrites anyways in the US, claiming to oppose war yet support Afghanistan invasion.

The left makes fun of the Hannity, Rush, O'reilley's, etc. But THEY are brainwashed by the same propaganda. The Colbert's, Bill Mahers, and other leftgatekeepers. Guys who LAUGH at "conspiracy nuts"...so all the Taibbi's of the world...the hipster "politically aware" liberal MTV youth can have a good laugh at anyone questioning 9/11.

Meanwhile watch as the left doesnt even seem interested in Press for Truth, the Jersey Girls, Peter Scott, Ground Zero dust coverup, Saudi ties, etc.

9/11 Truth in America seems to now only be accepted by "Right Wing" Alex Jones types and alienated former liberal-yet-still-progressives like myself.
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David Rovics Interview on Indymedia

Postby chrisc » Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:54 pm

When David Rovics article 9/11 Truth Movement vs. 9/11 Truth was reposted to UK Indymedia it got a lot of comments.

Now a follow up interview with David Rovics has been posted there and he clarifies some of his views on 9/11 in it.

Also he was on Kevin Barrett's show earlier in the week and said some interesting things there.
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Re: David Rovics Interview on Indymedia

Postby 8bitagent » Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:58 pm

chrisc wrote:When David Rovics article 9/11 Truth Movement vs. 9/11 Truth was reposted to UK Indymedia it go a lot of comments, and many have been hidden for being abusive.

Now a follow up interview with David Rovics has been posted there and he clarifies some of his views on 9/11 in it.

Also he was on Kevin Barrett's show earlier in the week and said some interesting things there.


I think Rovics is a little confused. He says in that

Chossudovsky is "unreliable"(um, yeah ok!)

then he says

I think it was a terrorist attack carried out by people who came from a certain milieu (al-Qaeda and certain other groups) who support this kind of tactic. The tactic isn't a new one, it's just a very dramatic example of the tactic at work. Why elaborate on what happened? It's a matter of the public record. A bunch of guys with a background in certain resistance movements with deep connections to the CIA, the Saudi regime, the Pakistani regime, the Taleban, etc., hijacked a bunch of planes and crashed them into very prominent buildings.


I AGREE! BUT...WHO WAS DIRECTING AND FUNDING THEM?

Islamic terrorism is NOT controlled by Wahhabists, but global elite and corporate interests. "al Qaeda" is nothing more than the perfect foil for transnational hegemonic interests, a total NWO tool.

Of course, maybe he was just being coy.

He says "(al-Qaeda and certain other groups) "

I agree! BUT THEN he says

Why elaborate on what happened? It's a matter of the public record.

Why elaborate? Because most people, including many of the "anti war left" crowd, think it was merely the work of Osama and independent al Qaeda.

Ultimately he has the Chomsky "who cares" view. Which to me, I hate to say, is classic leftgatekeeping. He seems to not realize how many have been killed in the name of 9/11
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Postby §ê¢rꆧ » Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:37 am

8bitagent wrote:Ultimately he has the Chomsky "who cares" view. Which to me, I hate to say, is classic leftgatekeeping. He seems to not realize how many have been killed in the name of 9/11
I'm with you on this completely 8bit. It's a shame, Rovics does make good musics. He'll come around I think... and then he'll be 'red-faced' :oops:
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