St Louis - Shooting - Riots - Anonymous Threats

[justdrew]

[Project Willow]

It's not a hoax. It's a legitimately divisive controversy!

And that's the problem. Inexcusable police shootings that are not controversial happen every day.

Shows you don't know the case well. It was made to look divisive, first by the police. I followed witness accounts on twitter from the very start, the boiling point was reached on social media before the corporate vultures descended and created their own narrative. MSM manipulation was another source of rage for the protesters.

You said, "the very existence of Ferguson's entire "justice system" cries out for radical reconstruction. It's basically a domestically occupied territory."

This and the cumulative effect of Trayvon and all the inexcusable police killings before and since is what made Ferguson blow up. That's what I saw on social media.

If you'll notice in that link you posted that cop was actually fired, at least.

[Project Willow]

Sorry, Lynn, but I think Respondent kind of got the better of you in that argument.

If you don't think Ferguson is mostly a media creation, I've got a story about a polar bear that I'd like you to read:

http://uselesseaterblog.blogspot.ca/201 ... bears.html

Jerky

Two days of protests in over 30 cities, everyone's talking about police violence and institutional racism, I still don't get how that's a bad thing. I also don't get how feeling grief over long injustice and wanting to express it is a bad thing.

[seemslikeadream]

what if you knew her?

found her dead on the ground

how can you run when YOU KNOW

Jay Nixon coming

[seemslikeadream]

“Our business, I hate to say it, lives for this stuff.”

http://fusion.net/story/29330/across-th ... r-trouble/

Twelve miles south, in the wealthy suburb of Clayton —home to a cluster of investment banks, upscale restaurants, art galleries, and the grand jury hearing for the Michael Brown case — the preparations are a little more sophisticated and a lot more expensive.

The predominantly white residents of Clayton seem convinced that the protesters will take out their anger there, and are hurrying to insulate themselves from the threat with private security firms.

Asymmetric Solutions, a St. Louis-based security and intelligence company that is staffed by U.S. special-operations veterans, has been working with companies around the metropolitan area whose assets are valuable enough to justify the firm’s steep rates. A project manager for the company, who asked not to be named, predicts that outside of Ferguson “most of the difficulty will occur in the Clayton area…the bastions of white wealth and privilege.”

When the grand-jury decision comes down, the firm will deploy its operatives to probable flashpoints. “You’ll never notice any of our people,” he said. “We’re not putting fighters out there—we’re putting thinkers and managers out. Their ability to wage war effectively is simply one more tool in the toolbox.”

Securitas, a security firm that employs 1,600 private guards around St. Louis, says it contracted out the last of its personnel two weeks ago to protect malls, banks, pharmaceutical corporations, power plants, and other large businesses, some of which are based in Clayton. To meet the demand of anticipated violence, Securitas has been making new hires, according to Garrett Cizek, the firm’s local business-development manager.

Other security companies are petitioning local law enforcement to waive the requirement for fingerprinting new guards before they can be licensed, because even that three-day processing period is interfering with their ability to meet the current surge in demand.

Securitas’ menu of services includes interior, exterior, and perimeter patrols, as well as security-trained receptionists and elevator escorts for corporate officers—each offered at two price points: armed and unarmed. But currently, there’s little demand for unarmed. “They all want armed,” Cizek said. “Our business, I hate to say it, lives for this stuff.”

[Dioneo]

That's why this was covered to the extent it was, not because of some nefarious media plot.

Really? So why was this inexcusable cop execution, out of the hundreds that happen every year, the one that was immediately seized upon by our corporate media minions if not to divide people spontaneously into order lover vs. cop hater camps?

I suppose this is the chief reason why I don't need a place at this particular table. I am here first and foremost because RI is an antifascist board. There are still a few people here who are committed to battling institutional injustice, and to thinking critically about the root causes of such.

Afaic, with all due respect, speculating about "why this out of the hundreds that happen each year" received coverage is just a bunch of conspiratard nonsense. One important reason this one is receiving so much coverage, as with the case of Trayvon Martin, is that it happened at a critical juncture in a particular community such that the people were inspired to rise up and say enough.

Maybe you are right. Maybe some agents provocateurs infiltrated that community and got that community out on the street to engineer this, that or the other plot. (Because, you know, the good folks of Ferguson have no agency of their own.) Maybe 9-11 was really a hologram. Maybe aliens from Saturn will save us. Not my truck.

[elfismiles]

Austin ...

Austinites gather for Ferguson rally (Video)
Ashley Goudeau, KVUE 6:21 a.m. CST November 26, 2014

AUSTIN -- Holding posters with the face of Michael Brown, a crowd of more than 300 people stood in solidarity on the plaza at Austin Police Headquarters.

The crowd was so large it spilled into Eighth Street as they peacefully spread their message.

"Black lives matter," they chanted.

"We, like I think hundreds of thousands of people all across the country, were really troubled by what happened in Ferguson, Missouri last night," said Snehal Shingavi, organizer of The People's Task Force.

"The problem is that the police have a, such a latitude in the use of force policies and I think that this national effort that's going on to tighten that is what this demonstration's about," added Jim Harrington, director of the Texas Civil Rights Project.

For more than four minutes, the crowd was silent to represent the more than four hours Michael Brown's body lay in the street as police investigated his death.

"Every city in America has a Mike Brown. Every city in America has an unarmed person of color that has been shot by a cop and justice has not been delivered to them," Shingavi said.

For Austin, the crowd said it's Larry Jackson. Jackson, a black man, was unarmed when he was shot and killed by an Austin police officer. That officer, Det. Charles Kleinert, has since retired. He was indicted and is awaiting trial.

"The issues in Ferguson, Missouri speak directly to the issues that are going on here in Austin, Texas," Shingavi said.

"People in this country who think that we don't have a race problem and that we're over it need to wake up," said Stephanie Perry, who was at the rally. "All these lives have been lost and we repeat history over and over again."

Many said it's frightening.

"It hits home, because I have two sons, and so every time they go out, you're always afraid that if they ever get into a situation, even just pulled over for a traffic ticket, they may not come home," said Sue Spears, who was at the rally.

People in the crowd said they want a change in use of force policies, restorative justice and improved relations with Austin police.

"It's really not about all the chaos that ensued after the verdict, but it's what we need to do to address systems that lead to verdict," said Austin activist Saul Paul.

"You can't keep looking at the same thing happening over and over and over and over again and and act like its not systemic. Act like its not a civil rights issue," added another speaker at the rally.

Austin police kept a low profile at the rally. Officers blocked off Eighth Street at Interstate 35 to traffic and escorted protesters as they marched.

RELATED: Austin police keep low profile at Ferguson rally

"Our unit model for the crowd management team is to defend the first. We really believe that," said Austin Police Chief Art Acevedo. "The first amendment's about free speech, it's not about engaging in acts of violence, it's not about engaging in acts of vandalism, and one of the things that I really love about the activist community, as much as they like to maybe not like me sometimes, is that by and large they really show the rest of the world what activism's about. What exercising free speech is about and what's being respectful of their fellow residents here in Austin's all about."

The crowd marched from the police station to the Texas Capitol, chanting and hoping their message will be heard; hoping they're not marching in vain; hoping for change.

http://www.kvue.com/story/news/local/20 ... /70130696/

Of course, the local APD had shown up in Riot-Gear doing a "drill" on the 24th...

Austin police on ‘tactical alert,’ hold drill outside headquarters (Video)
By David Scott Published: November 24, 2014, 3:39 pm | Updated: November 24, 2014, 11:08 pm
http://kxan.com/2014/11/24/austin-offic ... dquarters/





APD officers hold riot response drill (Video)
Posted: Nov 24, 2014 9:04 PM CST Updated: Nov 24, 2014 10:06 PM CST
http://www.myfoxaustin.com/story/274734 ... onse-drill

[Wombaticus Rex]

I take solace knowing that, no matter what happens in our crazy Kali Yuga times, no matter how dead serious, no matter how starkly clear-cut things become out here, I can count on Loren Coleman to type something completely useless, an image-filled, gee-whiz ramble which contributes nothing and obfuscates everything. He's Just Asking Questions!™ Surely, the Egyptian names of Southern Illinois towns is significant, more significant than their actual demographics, or, say, per capita KKK membership or an actual documented history of racist savagery.

So many of us are tempted to let mundane details rob us of the big picture -- little, passing trifles like dead children, ruined lives, actual pain experienced by actual people. Loren Coleman knows better: this is about archetypes, man. Oh, and shitty sci-fi TV shows that Loren Coleman has seen...also about that.

Edit: I was wrong about this, thanks to Elfis for educating me. While I still have misgivings about what his blog has become, Loren has a strong and accomplished background in mental health, a genuine concern for youth suicide, and is not anywhere close to a Nancy Grace, an ad hominem I level a few posts later. I will leave this intact, though, as an embarassing reminder how often my venom outpaces my grasp of the facts.

Two days of protests in over 30 cities, everyone's talking about police violence and institutional racism, I still don't get how that's a bad thing. I also don't get how feeling grief over long injustice and wanting to express it is a bad thing.

It's bad because Jerky is so much smarter than those protesters, who can't see through their shallow programming, the poor dupes. LOL! It's about being right.

[Pele'sDaughter]

http://www.myfoxdfw.com/story/27484230/ ... protestors

Law enforcement officials temporarily shut down part of I-35 northbound in Dallas Tuesday night due to protestors upset about a grand jury's decision not to indict the white police officer who killed Michael Brown, and seven protestors were arrested and charged with obstructing highway or other passageway, according to Dallas police.

Originally, nearly 200 protesters gathered early Tuesday night at the Dallas Police Department, holding a prayer vigil.

They later started chanting at the police department's front door. Things eventually escalated when part of the group of protestors got onto the highway and began blocking traffic.

Some protestors were reportedly even lying down in the road.

Police and SWAT officials were called in to help, giving warnings over loudspeakers. The highway was eventually re-opened just before 11 p.m., and protestors marched back to police headquarters.

At one point, police backed up into the intersection of S. Lamar and Belleview streets, as protestors chanted, "Our streets! Our streets!"

No citizens or officers were injured during the protests.

At the beginning of the evening, many in the original crowd at DPD headquarters said they had a family member shot by Dallas police and don't feel there were appropriate repercussions.

“I want crooked cops to be indicted; I want cops who abuse their power to be held accountable,” said Ashley Wilkerson with Mothers Against Teen Violence.

Mothers Against Police Brutality organized the protest on the heels of the Ferguson grand jury's decision.

Kevin Butler went to witness and understands how some families feel.

“I've heard a lot of opinions on a lot of sides, and I really haven't made up my mind yet,” he said. “I just feel uneasy about what went on in Missouri, so I just wanted to hear all sides.”

Earlier, pastors from local churches prayed for the Brown family, for Ferguson and for law enforcement, urging change.

“We believe there needs to be racial sensitivity training on the part of the police department so that every single police officer goes through some type of training,” said Pastor Freddie Haynes with Friendship West Baptist Church.

They believe more business opportunities, like Mayor Mike Rawlings' Grow South initiative, improving DISD schools in south Dallas and a strengthened trust with police officers will keep future protests from happening.

Tuesday afternoon, Dallas police published data and details about every police shooting dating back to 2003 -- that's roughly 200 incidents.

In addition, the police chief is ordering hundreds of body cameras and more tasers for all 2,200 patrol officers to improve transparency and hopefully to avoid deadly force.

[Pele'sDaughter]

Here's a photo of the protestors who marched onto I35.



http://www.wfaa.com/picture-gallery/new ... /70123982/

[elfismiles]

Is the title of his blog "Demographic Analysis of Current Events"? No it's about "onomatology (study of names) and toponymy (study of place names)..." and "investigates "name games" and "number coincidences" found in news and history."

Would I mind seeing him speak to the issues you are harping on him about for not covering, sure. But that's never been the subject matter of his blogging. Knowing of his efforts to prevent violence and homicide/suicide through his work on the Copycat Effect / Suicide Clusters etc., is enough for me.

I take solace knowing that, no matter what happens in our crazy Kali Yuga times, no matter how dead serious, no matter how starkly clear-cut things become out here, I can count on Loren Coleman to type something completely useless, an image-filled, gee-whiz ramble which contributes nothing and obfuscates everything. He's Just Asking Questions!™ Surely, the Egyptian names of Southern Illinois towns is significant, more significant than their actual demographics, or, say, per capita KKK membership or an actual documented history of racist savagery.

So many of us are tempted to let mundane details rob us of the big picture -- little, passing trifles like dead children, ruined lives, actual pain experienced by actual people. Loren Coleman knows better: this is about archetypes, man. Oh, and shitty sci-fi TV shows that Loren Coleman has seen...also about that.

[seemslikeadream]

I take solace knowing that, no matter what happens in our crazy Kali Yuga times, no matter how dead serious, no matter how starkly clear-cut things become out here, I can count on Loren Coleman to type something completely useless, an image-filled, gee-whiz ramble which contributes nothing and obfuscates everything. He's Just Asking Questions!™ Surely, the Egyptian names of Southern Illinois towns is significant, more significant than their actual demographics, or, say, per capita KKK membership or an actual documented history of racist savagery.

So many of us are tempted to let mundane details rob us of the big picture -- little, passing trifles like dead children, ruined lives, actual pain experienced by actual people. Loren Coleman knows better: this is about archetypes, man. Oh, and shitty sci-fi TV shows that Loren Coleman has seen...also about that.

Two days of protests in over 30 cities, everyone's talking about police violence and institutional racism, I still don't get how that's a bad thing. I also don't get how feeling grief over long injustice and wanting to express it is a bad thing.

It's bad because Jerky is so much smarter than those protesters, who can't see through their shallow programming, the poor dupes. LOL! It's about being right.

oh SLaD there you go again posting crap...how about you just delete it and learn from your misstakes....we don't cotton to that kinda weirdo stuff around here..you just make us all look bad....it might be a good idea to think twice next time


ok SLaD....noted advice and deleted stupidity but I am leaving up Neil..no one's criticism will make my delete that

[elfismiles]

Meanwhile ... via Drudge and http://www.NEurope.eu

BC-AP News Coverage Advisory
by Associated Press
26.11.2014 - 16:25

Here's a look at how AP's general news coverage is shaping up today. Some plans are subject to change.

HIGHLIGHTING:

Among today's coverage highlights as we see them:

-- FERGUSON-GRAND JURY-INCONSISTENCIES (upcoming)
....

FERGUSON-GRAND JURY-INCONSISTENCIES - An AP review of thousands of pages of grand jury documents reveals numerous instances of inconsistent, fabricated or provably wrong statements. UPCOMING: Developing.

http://www.neurope.eu/news/wire/bc-ap-n ... visory-114

[Wombaticus Rex]

Knowing of his efforts to prevent violence and homicide/suicide through his work on the Copycat Effect / Suicide Clusters etc., is enough for me.

I was with you ... riiiiiight up until that one.

Can you explain how Coleman isn't a mix between Nancy Grace and Alex Jones? If publicizing and analyzing the minutae of spree killings is a preventative measure, that's news to me...

[Laodicean]

but I am leaving up Neil

Me too. http://terribleminds.com/ramble/2014/11 ... g-empathy/