Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris hostage

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Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:25 pm

MacCruiskeen » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:21 am wrote:As if the whole depraved murderous spectacle in Paris weren't already depressing enough, it's additionally depressing to see this nonsense meeting with so little resistance on this board -- and indeed with a depressing amount of apparent approval:

Wombaticus Rex » Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:20 pm wrote:
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Now, granted, I've never read about this "Gladio" thing and I probably shouldn't comment, but I shall henceforth.


This is an incredible admission.


Yeah.

It was also a joke, bud. I would have hoped a pretty obvious one.

Hope is like that.
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Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:30 pm

glad to see you back Mac..but you shouldn't hold back...let us know how you really feel :P
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Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Postby DrEvil » Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:30 pm

MacCruiskeen » Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:21 pm wrote:As if the whole depraved murderous spectacle in Paris weren't already depressing enough, it's additionally depressing to see this nonsense meeting with so little resistance on this board -- and indeed with a depressing amount of apparent approval:

Wombaticus Rex » Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:20 pm wrote:
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Now, granted, I've never read about this "Gladio" thing and I probably shouldn't comment, but I shall henceforth.


This is an incredible thing to admit. Some might feel humbled and chastened while making such an admission.


I think your sarcasm detector is faulty.
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Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Postby Belligerent Savant » Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:32 pm

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(This -- or something similar -- may have already been posted. If so, disregard.)

Clearly a well-trained professional at work:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/n ... nd-killing


We were about 20 metres away from the cafe when we heard a firecracker and I looked around and I could see a man, maybe 185cm tall, and the position made it clear he was shooting.

He was standing in a shooting position. He had his right leg forward and he was standing with his left leg back. He was holding up to his left shoulder a long automatic machine gun – I saw it had a magazine beneath it.

Everything he was wearing was tight, either boots or shoes and the trousers were tight, the jumper he was wearing was tight, no zippers or collars. Everything was toned black.

If you think of what a combat soldier looks like, that is it – just without the webbing. Just a man in military uniform, black jumper, black trousers, black shoes or boots and a machine gun.
Maybe a woolly hat.

He was left handed and shooting in bursts of three or four shots. It was fully intentional, professional bursts of three or four shots.

He killed three or four individuals who were sitting in the chairs in front of the cafe. We saw them get shot down. They fell off their chairs onto the ground.

He then swivelled and shot through a car drivers’ window.

We then saw him walk into the cafe. He swivelled right and then swivelled left and opened fire. That is when we dived for cover.

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Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Postby Luther Blissett » Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:45 pm

Whether they were trained in a Belgian suburb, a camp in outside Raqqa, or Montana, it sounds from eyewitness accounts that the attackers were very professional: left foot forward, discriminate aim, silence, coded gestures, assigning cover, wearing nearly-identical clothing.
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Fake Passports

Postby MinM » Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:50 pm

Syrian passports found near the bodies of two of the suspected Paris attackers were fakes that were likely made in Turkey, police sources in France told Channel 4 News on Sunday.

Greek officials had said on Saturday that one of the two passports was held by someone who had registered as a refugee on the Greek island of Leros on 3 October.

Officials denied, though, that a second attacker had taken a similar route, telling the Guardian there was “no indication whatsoever” that the assailant had entered Europe through Greece. The comments came amid widening investigations into the attacks that killed 132 people in the French capital on Friday.

Authorities across Europe continue to probe the identity of seven assailants amid questions over how they managed to co-ordinate multiple attacks, which have since been claimed by the Islamic State group, without attracting the attention of security services.

Only one of the attackers has as yet been publicly named, amid ongoing attempts to identify the victims - French Prime Minister Manuel Valls said on Sunday that the bodies of up to 30 people killed in the assaults have yet to be identified.

Authorities on Sunday named the attacker as Omar Ismail Mostefai, a 29-year-old Frenchman born and raised in Paris but with family connections to Algeria.

Mostefai’s recent movements have not yet been made public, although British intelligence officials have said the attackers were part of a cell that recently returned from fighting in Syria.

Fake Syrian passports have become a valuable commodity in recent months and are freely traded on the black market, as they can help ease the path for non-Syrians to get protection as refugees in Europe.

A Dutch journalist reported in September that he had bought a fake Syrian passport and ID card, both bearing the picture of the Dutch prime minister, for $825.

Fake Syrian passports are also bought by Syrians who have not been able to get documents due to the war.

Chris Doyle, head of the Council for Arab-British Understanding, said there is great demand for fake passports because many Syrians living outside government-controlled areas are rendered effectively stateless by the difficulty of obtaining documents.

In the wake of the slaughter in Paris, many commenters have questioned why the perpetrators would carry passports with them during the highly co-ordinated attacks.

Simon Kuper, a columnist with the Financial Times and Paris resident, said the move was likely part of a strategy by IS to “discredit” refugees and force Europe to close its borders.

An undated video released by IS on Saturday, featuring fighters appearing to burn French passports and pledge allegiance to the group’s leader, urged French Muslims to “emigrate” to areas controlled by IS before Europe’s borders are closed.

In addition to the Syrian documents discovered at the scene of the Paris assaults, media reports suggested that an Egyptian passport discovered near the Stade de France - which was targeted by two suicide bombers on Friday - belonged to one of the attackers.

However, it emerged on Sunday that the passport was held by an Egyptian football fan who was severely injured by an attack that struck during a friendly between France and Germany.

Egypt's ambassador to France, Ihab Badawi, told Egyptian media that no charges had been levelled against Walid Abdel Razzaq.

The fan, Abdel Razzaq, has had three operations since sustaining grave injuries, his brother told Egyptian news channel al-Hayat on Sunday, and still has shrapnel in his body from the blast.

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/syria ... -520642631

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Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:50 pm

^^^^
made in Turkey



one more time


seemslikeadream » Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:07 pm wrote:
NOVEMBER 13, 2015
Bombing ISIS Into the Heart of Europe: the New Face War
by PATRICK COCKBURN

.........

Nobody in the outside world paid much attention to the thousands of Iraqi Shia who were killed then and have gone on dying because of ISIS terrorist bombings in Iraq. The number of civilians killed in Iraq jumped from 4,623 in 2012 to 9,473 in 2013 and to 17,045 in 2014, according to Iraqi Body Count, an independent website; a high proportion of these killed were Shia victims of Isis bombers and executioners. This savagery is now being repeated in the streets of Paris and Ankara, where 102 demonstrators for peace were killed by two suicide bombers on 10 October.

.........

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They could still get him out of office.
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Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:15 pm

passports ...warnings....scheduled Multi-site Exercise planned for morning of Nov 13, 2015 .....looks like 9/11 to me

French Jews Warned Friday Morning of ‘Impending Large Terrorist Attack’
Netanyahu: Israel Passed Intelligence to France on Attack
by Jason Ditz, November 15, 2015
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Intelligence in the lead-up to Friday evening’s terrorist attacks in Paris was not nearly so scarce as had initially been indicated, and several nations, including Iraq and Israel, appear to have been passing France intelligence on the matter in the days leading up to the attack.

According to the Times of Israel, French Jewish security officials were informed of an “impending large terrorist attack” in France on Friday morning, There was considerable speculation in the lead-up that France’s Jewish community would be among the targets.

Ultimately, this appears not to have been the case, though the community notes that the Bataclan, the site of the massive hostage-taking, was until very recently Jewish-owned, and has repeatedly been the site of both IDF fundraisers and anti-Israel protests, raising speculation that this made the target higher-profile for ISIS.

Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu also reported in a statement this weekend that Israel has been sharing intelligence with France and other “relevant countries” about the attackers in Paris, saying the intelligence sharing has been ongoing and was not just “over the past day.”



Is this France's LIHOP?
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Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Postby slimmouse » Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:43 pm

Wheres Alice when you need her?

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Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Postby backtoiam » Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:46 pm

At 2:15 this guy makes an observation that is hard for me to refute. This windowsill is recessed at least a foot. Knees do not bend backwards, or inwards, the wrong way. Most men I know could could never do what this pregnant woman supposedly did, and sometimes with only one hand? And she did it for a lonnnngg time. Also why didn't her feet disappear into the recess of the window and out of view of the camera, after she bent her knees against human physiology?

And where is all the cell phone footage of all this carnage?




This one is also perplexing. No physical damage to premises, no blood on pristine white suits. Was it reported that a bomb blew up near here?

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Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Postby DrEvil » Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:51 pm

^^That has to be some of the dumbest shit I've seen in a while.

Youtube forensics ftw! :wallhead:
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Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Postby backtoiam » Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:54 pm

DrEvil » Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:51 pm wrote:^^That has to be some of the dumbest shit I've seen in a while.

Youtube forensics ftw! :wallhead:



Its not youtube forensics, sir, it is camera footage.
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Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Postby backtoiam » Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:03 pm

This one I also cannot reconcile. If a bomb blew up at a stadium event it should have been evacuated immediately, game over. Why are people partying in the infield after the game taking selfies? I haven't read the reports but was there supposedly a bombing at this stadium?

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Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Postby DrEvil » Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:15 pm

backtoiam » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:03 pm wrote:This one I also cannot reconcile. If a bomb blew up at a stadium event it should have been evacuated immediately, game over. Why are people partying in the infield after the game taking selfies? I haven't read the reports but was there supposedly a bombing at this stadium?


Maybe read the reports then? There was an attack outside the stadium. They're waiting to be evacuated.
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