How Bad Is Global Warming?

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Re: How Bad Is Global Warming?

Postby Luther Blissett » Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:56 am

Many of world’s lakes are vanishing and some may be gone forever

Bolivia’s second largest lake has vanished into thin air. In December, Lake Poopó became a dry salt pan and its largest lake – Lake Titicaca – is heading towards trouble, too.

Recent research and new data suggest that lakes in other parts of the world may also be on their way out.

The combination of silting up and irrigation withdrawal from the Desaguadero River, which feeds Poopó, together with climate change and the extra warmth from current El Niño, were enough to finish this lake off.

“Considering the size of the lake – 2700 square kilometres – this is quite an astounding event, with slim prospects of recovery,” says Dirk Hoffmann from the Bolivia Mountain Institute. “This event should serve as a real warning. Eventually, we can expect Lake Titicaca to go the same way.”

Air temperature has risen by around 0.7 °C in the Andes over the past 70 years and lakes are being evaporated faster than they are replenished. Lake Titicaca is close to a tipping point. Just 1 to 2 °C of atmospheric warming – which is expected by 2050 – could be enough to evaporate the top few metres, which would shut down the Desaguadero River and dry up all the water bodies that this river feeds. Such an outcome would be catastrophic for the 3 million inhabitants of Bolivia’s highlands, including the city of La Paz.

“If Titicaca stops supplying the Desaguadero River then the region will enter a new climate regime and the entire Andean Plateau will change from a benign agricultural area to an arid inhospitable area,” says Mark Bush, biologist at Florida Institute of Technology. “This happened during two prior interglacials and each time the dry event lasted for thousands of years.”

It’s not just Andean lakes that are in trouble. Evidence from around the world suggests that lakes are warming, shrinking or disappearing, with huge impacts on ecosystems (see box, below).

Warming lakes

The surface waters of the world's lakes have warmed on average by 0.34 °C per decade since 1985. Sweden's Lake Fracksjön is the fastest warming lake in the world, increasing 1.35 °C per decade, outpacing the rise in air temperature around it. Close behind is Lake Superior, one of North America's Great Lakes. "The combination of cleaner skies, increasing air temperature and a shorter period of winter ice cover is behind this rapid warming," says Catherine O'Reilly from Illinois State University.

This rapid warming is disrupting lake ecosystems. In European lakes, cold-loving fish such as Arctic charr decline while populations of warm-water fish such as carp increase. The latter feed on zooplankton, leaving fewer zooplankton to control damaging algal blooms.

Rapid surface warming also separates the deep cold water from the warm surface water, reducing transfer of nutrients and oxygen, potentially stressing organisms that cannot travel across the two layers. Tropical lakes are vulnerable to strengthening stratification because they don't have the cold winter season to help the lake layers equilibrate.

Lake Tanganyika in East Africa is one example of this happening. "We think this has contributed to declining fish yields," says James Russell, from Brown University, Rhode Island – a worrying prospect given that fish are a major source of protein for people living in the four countries bordering the lake, and that the fisheries provide employment for around 1 million people.


The disappearance of lakes across southern Europe, the Middle East and central Asia has been blamed on a rise in water extraction to meet the needs of agriculture and a growing and increasingly water-thirsty population. Climate change has compounded the problem.

“This region is experiencing a drier climate now, which is also driving increased water extraction,” says Erik Jeppesen, a freshwater ecologist at Aarhus University in Denmark. The eastern Mediterranean has just gone through its worst drought in 900 years.

As a result, lakes on the Central Anatolian Plateau lost around half of their surface area between 2003 and 2010, says Meryem Beklioğlu, a freshwater ecologist at the Middle East Technical University in Ankara, Turkey. Lake Akşehir has dried up completely, she says, resulting in the extinction of one species of fish, Alburnus nasreddini, and endangering two other endemic fish species, Gobio gobio intermedius and Leuciscus anatolicus.

Beklioğlu’s models predict that, at current rate of water extraction, one of the largest lakes in this region – Lake Beysehir – will be gone by 2040. “This water is critical for irrigation and for the local economy, but right now we are cutting off the branch we are sitting on,” she says.

Many of Turkey’s lakes are shallow and this makes them particularly vulnerable. As they shrink, salt levels skyrocket. “It happens really fast – just four or five years – and has caused water-rationing in the past,” Beklioğlu says. The smaller volume of water also concentrates nutrients and encourages algal blooms that can be toxic.


“Ultimately, the drying of the lakes along with the loss of groundwater and salinisation, will make the land less viable for agriculture in this region,” says Jeppesen. “This will put significant pressure on northern countries to produce more food, leading to deteriorating water quality in northern lakes due to increased fertiliser run-off entering lakes.”

Further east, changing rainfall patterns coupled with a mining boom and agricultural irrigation have caused more than a quarter of the lakes in Mongolia to dry up by since the 1980s.

Similarly, lakes in south-east Australia have shrunk during recent droughts, with one of the largest lakes – Lake Alexandrina – losing over two-thirds of its volume and experiencing a fivefold increase in salinity in 2009. Heavy water usage by farms coupled with climate change are thought to have been to blame. “This caused localised extinctions of native fish species,” says Kane Aldridge, a limnologist at The University of Adelaide. “Droughts are a natural part of the climate here, but they are expected to become more common under climate change.”

Arctic ponds
One place that is warming especially rapidly is the Arctic. Viewed from above, it is dotted with millions of ponds – but far fewer than a few decades ago. A 2015 study in northern Alaska shows that over the last 60 years the surface area of ponds has diminished by nearly a third, and nearly a fifth of the ponds have vanished.

This is largely due to the permafrost thawing. When frozen soil thaws, the water can drain, bursting out sideways or disappearing underground. “It is like pulling the plug from a bathtub,” says Guido Grosse from the Alfred Wegener Institute in Potsdam, who has used satellite and aerial photos to document this loss. And once they start to drain they can disappear fast. In July 2014, an Arctic lake with the volume of around 350 Olympic swimming pools emptied in just 36 hours.

“These ponds are the baby lakes, and if they disappear then we will have no Arctic lakes in the long term,” says Christian Andresen from the Los Alamos National Laboratory. This will be bad news for fish like salmon, and migratory birds who depend on these lakes, says Grosse.

What to do?
Despite the trend, most of the world’s lakes are unlikely to disappear any time soon. And in some areas, such as the Tibetan plateau, the number of lakes is expanding. Rapid glacier melting is cooling existing lakes and creating new lakes there: 1099 in total between 1990 and 2010, representing a 23 per cent increase in surface area.

In the regions that are losing lakes, though, wiser water management could help slow down shrinking, says Beklioğlu.

And for warming lakes, says Jeppesen, reducing the input of nutrients could help to maintain the ecosystem balance. Hard engineering – dredging channels and building dams – can be a last resort.

But as the ill-fated Aral Sea in central Asia that went from being the world’s fourth largest lake to all but vanishing in less than a century shows, once a lake is lost it is very hard to recover. “Closed lake basins and shallow lakes are the most vulnerable to drying,” says Lisa Borre from the Cary Institute of Ecosystem Studies in New York. “Climate change is a major issue and we will see more Aral Seas and Lake Poopós in the future.”
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Re: How Bad Is Global Warming?

Postby PufPuf93 » Wed Mar 09, 2016 2:59 pm

DrEvil » Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:22 pm wrote:
Sounder » Wed Mar 09, 2016 12:52 am wrote:The question is still open as to who are the real environmentalists.

We have serious threats relating to glyphosates, GMO's and widespread nuclear contamination, (big money makers) and here we are talking about the weather.

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We're not talking about the weather, we're talking about the climate, which is not the same thing.

Do Glyphosates have the potential to wipe us all out? Do GMOs? Nuclear contamination (not counting all out nuclear war)? They all pale in comparison to the worst case scenarios for global warming.
Not to mention that global warming is a driver for the use of nuclear power, GMOs and stuff like glyphosate.


Global warming better yet global climate change is part and parcel of a human-caused mass extinction event that to be reflected in a future geologic record (with or without humans to observe).

We are already past the tipping point

The problem with ameliorating technologies is their risk in accelerating the extinction event and merely a short term bandage or excuse to make money or further overshoot the Earth's carrying capacity for humans.

I don't have any answers. :shrug:
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Re: How Bad Is Global Warming?

Postby DrEvil » Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:52 pm

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... ught-study

Dangerous global warming will happen sooner than thought – study

Australian researchers say a global tracker monitoring energy use per person points to 2C warming by 2030

The world is on track to reach dangerous levels of global warming much sooner than expected, according to new Australian research that highlights the alarming implications of rising energy demand.

University of Queensland and Griffith University researchers have developed a “global energy tracker” which predicts average world temperatures could climb 1.5C above pre-industrial levels by 2020.

That forecast, based on new modelling using long-term average projections on economic growth, population growth and energy use per person, points to a 2C rise by 2030.

The UN conference on climate change in Paris last year agreed to a 1.5C rise as the preferred limit to protect vulnerable island states, and a 2C rise as the absolute limit.

The new modelling is the brainchild of Ben Hankamer from UQ’s institute for molecular bioscience and Liam Wagner from Griffith University’s department of accounting, finance and economics, whose work was published in the journal Plos One on Thursday.

It is the first model to include energy use per person – which has more than doubled since 1950 – alongside economic and population growth as a way of predicting carbon emissions and corresponding temperature increases.

The researchers said the earlier than expected advance of global warming revealed by their modelling added a newfound urgency to the switch from fossil fuels to renewables.

Hankamer said: “The more the economy grows, the more energy you use ... the conclusion really is that economists and environmentalists are on the same side and have both come to the same conclusion: we’ve got to act now and we don’t have much time.”

Wagner said the model suggested the surge in energy consumption was not offset by improvements in energy efficiency.

He said energy use per person was on track to rise sixfold by 2050, which had dire implications for temperatures when combined with economic growth of 3.9% a year (the six-decade average) and a world population of 9 billion.

“Massive increases in energy consumption would be necessary to alleviate poverty for the nearly 50% of the world’s population who live on less than $2.50 a day,” Wagner said.

“We have a choice: leave people in poverty and speed towards dangerous global warming through the increased use of fossil fuels, or transition rapidly to renewables.”

Hankamer said: “When you think about statements like ‘coal is good for humanity’ because we’re pulling people out of poverty, it’s just not true”.

“You would have to burn so much coal in order to get the energy to provide people with a living to get them off $2.50 a day that [temperature rises] would just go through the roof very quickly.”

The researchers suggested switching $500bn in subsidies for fossil fuels worldwide to renewables as a “cost neutral” way to fast-track the energy transition.

Wagner said pulling the rug from out under the fossil fuels industry was a move of “creative destruction” and “more a political issue rather than an economic issue”.

“If we swapped those subsidies globally, of course we could have rapid improvement and deployment of renewables to cover our shift from fossil fuels,” he said.

“You’re pushing a huge amount of capital into a different sector that requires an enormous amount of growth, so you would actually see a great deal more growth from putting it into renewables than providing it for fossil fuels.”

Hankamer said the fact that about 80% of the world’s energy was for fuel, and only 20% for electricity, meant “we don’t have any easy solutions”.

“If we want to do this, we need to do things like solar fuels, or think about how we do battery technologies and fully transition to electric,” he said.

“The things that are going to be hard to replace are aviation fuels and things for heavy machinery and probably shipping.

“We can do electric cars for short runs but those things are going to be really hard to switch.”
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Re: Heartland compromizes Edward

Postby Sounder » Sun Mar 13, 2016 6:36 am

EDWARD SNOWDEN: “GLOBAL WARMING IS AN INVENTION OF THE CIA”

By Randy | March 8, 2016


FROM WNDNEWS:

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Moscow | National Security Agency whistleblower Edward Snowden, has made a new controversial claim yesterday during an interview, saying that he possesses some classified information proving that the CIA is behind the “theory of Global Warming”.

Snowden, who lives as a fugitive in Russia after leaking documents about the NSA’s surveillance programs, has made some previously unreported allegations during an interview with the Moscow Tribune.

Mr. Snowden says the CIA first orchestrated the spread of the “Global Warming scare” in the 1950s, in order to divert the attention of the scientific community, from the dangers of the weapons race and reinforce its control over research institutes.

“I have documents showing that the CIA invented the whole thing,” claims Edward Snowden. “Global Warming was invented to both scare people, and divert their attention from other human-made dangers like nuclear weapons. The CIA gave millions of dollars to any scientist who would confirm the theory, so many unscrupulous scientists did what they were told in order to get the money. Now, there is so much fake data to confirm that Global Warming “exists”, that they actually convinced everyone that it was real.”

Mr. Snowden says that the documents proving that the CIA invented the whole thing will be integrally reproduced in his new book, expected to be released in September 2016.

Edward Snowden was hired by an NSA contractor in 2013 after previous employment with Dell and the CIA. In the month of June of the same year, he revealed thousands of classified NSA documents to journalists. He also claims to be in possession of CIA documents, linking the agency to many illegal activities.
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Re: How Bad Is Global Warming?

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:50 am

CIA are time travelers now?
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Re: How Bad Is Global Warming?

Postby DrEvil » Sun Mar 13, 2016 10:09 am

I call bullshit. WND was the only source I could find for this claim, and they're not exactly known for their truthfulness.
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Re: How Bad Is Global Warming?

Postby Luther Blissett » Sun Mar 13, 2016 5:49 pm

Joe Hillshoist » Sun Mar 13, 2016 8:50 am wrote:CIA are time travelers now?


And they melt the far north with hairdryers, and bomb Siberia from underground, and sink Miami, and spread sand southward from the Sahara, and bleach coral, and uh, add more CO2 to the atmosphere?
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Re: How Bad Is Global Warming?

Postby Sounder » Sun Mar 13, 2016 6:11 pm

I call bullshit. WND was the only source I could find for this claim, and they're not exactly known for their truthfulness.


I tend to agree, maybe we will find out when the book comes out. My impression has been that The Club of Rome started the CC ball rolling.
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Re: How Bad Is Global Warming?

Postby DrEvil » Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:58 pm

Pretty sure it was Svante Arhenius. Damn Swedes.
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Re: How Bad Is Global Warming?

Postby Morty » Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:24 am

Gnarly graphs at link

'True shocker': February spike in global temperatures stuns scientists

Peter Hannam
Environment Editor, The Sydney Morning Herald

Global temperatures leapt in February, lifting warming from pre-industrial levels to beyond 1.5 degrees, and stoking concerns about a "climate emergency".

Unusual warmth in waters off northern Australia also prompted an alert by the Great Barrier Reef Marine Authority about the risk of widespread coral bleaching.

According to NASA analysis, average temperatures last month were 1.35 degrees above the norm for the 1951-1980 period.
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They smashed the previous biggest departure from the average - set only in the previous month - by 0.21 degrees.

"This is really quite stunning ... it's completely unprecedented," said Stefan Rahmstorf, from Germany's Potsdam Institute of Climate Impact Research and a visiting professorial fellow at the University of NSW, noting the NASA data as reported by the Wunderground blog.

The blog's authors, Jeff Masters and Bob Henson, described February's spike as "a true shocker, and yet another reminder of the incessant long-term rise in global temperature resulting from human-produced greenhouse gases".

The monster El Nino event had contributed to the current record run of global temperatures by increasing the area of abnormally warm water in the central and eastern Pacific.

Compared with the rival record giant El Nino of 1997-98, global temperatures are running about 0.5 degrees hotter.

"That shows how much much global warming we have had since then," Professor Rahmstorf said.

The first half of March is at least as warm, he added, and it means temperatures "are clearly more than 1.5 degrees above pre-industrial levels".

'Emergency'

"We are in a kind of climate emergency now," Professor Rahmstorf said, noting that global carbon dioxide levels last year rose by a record rate of more than 3 parts per million.

"Governments have promised to act [to curb greenhouse gas emissions] and they need to do better than what they promised in Paris" at the global climate summit last December, he said.

Australia has not dodged the heat, either, with record national temperatures falling at the start of March, the Bureau of Meteorology said in a special climate statement.

The heat surge also comes as the future of climate science hangs in the balance in Australia , with the CSIRO planning to slash monitoring and modelling research.

The most northerly latitudes of the planet were the most abnormally hot regions in February, with large areas reporting temperatures 12 degrees or warmer than average, the NASA data shows.

The unusual heat in the far north means the Arctic sea ice will be thinner and more vulnerable to melting as the region heads into the warmer months, Professor Rahmstorf said.

Arctic sea ice is already at its smallest extent for this time of year on record. The relatively warm seas are contributing to a warmer atmosphere, reinforcing the long-term trend.

As the Wunderground blog noted, the impacts of the unusual global heat have been felt far and wide, including in severe droughts in Vietnam and Zimbabwe.

Fiji, meanwhile, continues work to recover from Cyclone Winston, the most powerful storm recorded in the southern hemisphere.

"[This warming] is not harmless," Professor Rahmstorf said. "It has quite a negative impact on society and the biosphere."

While February's global heat spike is unlikely to be sustained as the El Nino winds down, the latest indicators "are all symptoms of the general warming trend", he said.

Reef worries

Australia may also see some of that impact in coming weeks, with a large region of the Great Barrier Reef under threat from coral bleaching, according to the latest data from the US National Ocean and Atmospheric Administration.

The Great Barrier Marine Park Authority said on Monday that it detected "highly variable but widespread coral bleaching" across the park.

The area around Lizard Island, situated 250 km north of Cairns, and sites further north, had fared the worst, Russell Reichelt, the authority's chair, said in a statement.

"This is the result of sea-surface temperatures climbing as high as 33 degrees during February," Dr Reichelt said. "In the far north, the surveys found severe bleaching on inshore reefs, along with moderate bleaching on mid-shelf reefs."

Cloud cover had helped to moderate bleaching on southern reefs.

"The events on the Great Barrier Reef are part of the global pressure on coral reefs during a strong El Nino weather system which also affected reefs in Hawaii and the Caribbean," Dr Reichelt said, adding that about 5 per cent of shallow reefs had died as a result of bleaching events in 1998 and 2002.

"Bleaching is a vivid reminder of the need for all of us to continue building the resilience of coral reefs to give them the best chance of dealing with increasing climate change impacts," he said.
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Re: How Bad Is Global Warming?

Postby Luther Blissett » Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:55 am

Yeah I've been seeing some of those alarming quotes around the internet today, it's more than a bit frightening. Thanks for this.
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Re: How Bad Is Global Warming?

Postby NeonLX » Mon Mar 14, 2016 2:46 pm

We have gone through the warmest winter I can remember. We had a few cold days, but never got down to -10F or lower...a routine occurrence for other winters. We also didn't get much snow, and had much warmer lows and highs than normal. Yes, there was a strong "El Nino" this year...but maybe that's from warmer water in the Pacific. Whatever, it was a weird winter.
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Re: How Bad Is Global Warming?

Postby Luther Blissett » Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:54 pm

NeonLX » Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:46 pm wrote:We have gone through the warmest winter I can remember. We had a few cold days, but never got down to -10F or lower...a routine occurrence for other winters. We also didn't get much snow, and had much warmer lows and highs than normal. Yes, there was a strong "El Nino" this year...but maybe that's from warmer water in the Pacific. Whatever, it was a weird winter.


Anecdotally, we had one big snowstorm which came after the latest first snowfall in recorded history, a warm Christmas, a few warm patches throughout the season, and then the flowers started blooming pretty much right on March 1. Extremely unusual winter for us.
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Re: How Bad Is Global Warming?

Postby DrEvil » Mon Mar 14, 2016 6:38 pm

Sounder » Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:11 am wrote:
I call bullshit. WND was the only source I could find for this claim, and they're not exactly known for their truthfulness.


I tend to agree, maybe we will find out when the book comes out. My impression has been that The Club of Rome started the CC ball rolling.


I mistook WNDNEWS for WorldNetDaily, but as it turns out it's a different site that's, if possible, even worse than WND. I think it's safe to say that the Snowden story is 100% triple-A, undiluted bullshit. No need to wait for any book.

Here's another story from the site:

Apple Annouces Release of Paranormal Communication Application
http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/apple-a ... plication/

Pure fiction.
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Re: How Bad Is Global Warming?

Postby backtoiam » Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:50 pm

So this dude spent a half a million bux on radioisotope testing that never did really occur because he pocketed the money. But he produced "data" anyway... Since he didn't do the testing I suppose those results just came out of his own mind?


Climate Scientist Arrested for Fraud

March 14, 2016


Climate scientist Daniel Alongi has been indicted by the Australian government on charges of defrauding taxpayers out of $556,000 in false expenses since 2008.

Alongi has already admitted to creating false invoices, credit card statements, and e-mails to cover his misappropriation of funds.

Alongi’s indictment raises serious questions concerning the credibility of his research. During the period of Alongi’s alleged fraud, his research focusing on the impact of climate change on the Great Barrier Reef, coastal mangroves, and coastal ecosystems was published in numerous national and international journals.

Meteorologist Anthony Watts said in a post on his popular climate website Watts Up With That he’s concerned Alongi may have falsified scientific findings to justify his expenses. Alongi has published 140 scientific publications and his work has been cited 5,861 times by other researchers.

“If Alongi falsely claimed to have spent half a million dollars on radioisotope testing, it would look pretty strange if he didn’t produce any false test results, to justify the expenditure of all that money,” wrote Watts.

‘Scientists Not Immune to Corruption’

Alongi’s arrest marks the second time in recent months questions have been raised concerning the use of government funds given to carry out climate research.

In late 2015, the U.S. House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology began an investigation into George Mason University professor Jagadish Shukla’s non-profit research think tank, the Institute for Global Environment and Security Inc (IGES). IGES received more than $63 million dollars in federal grants, accounting for 98 percent of its operating revenue since 2001, but it produced very little published research.

A complaint filed by the Competitive Enterprise Institute and Cause of Action with the Internal Revenue Service requested the tax agency to investigate Shukla and IGES for illegally engaging in lobbying and advocacy activities, rather than conducting the research the government grants were given to them for.

“Scientists can be tempted by money just like any other profession,” said Marc Morano, publisher of Climate Depot. “A Ph.D. does not make one immune to potential financial corruption.

“I would expect many more revelations of financial improprieties [to emerge] as the global warming industry continues to receive lavish funding from governments, foundations, and universities,” Morano said. “The drive to have your work showcased in the media so you can get further funding increases the potential for financial fraud.”

Morano says the press is contributing to the spread of scientific fraud by choosing only to advance the views of global warming alarmists.

“By only promoting a fawning view of global warming claims, the mainstream media has also made the problem worse,” said Morano. “Normally, [the news media] is on the lookout for fraud and corruption, but [it] seems to turn away when it’s time to scrutinize climate change promoters.”
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