Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:21 pm

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Elvis » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:42 pm wrote:Why is this so?:

Since the onset of the pandemic, Taiwan's 23.8 million citizens have lived relatively free of coronavirus, recording just 870 cases and seven deaths. Florida, a U.S. state with a population comparable to Taiwan's, has recorded 1.6 million cases of COVID-19 and nearly 25,000 deaths.

https://fortune.com/2021/01/22/taiwan-c ... -outbreak/


At the beginning of the Covid-19 pandemic, the Taiwan government immediately banned export of PPE, guaranteed manufacturers they would buy all that could be produced, and distributed the PPE free to its citizens (who did not kick & scream like babies because they were asked to wear protective devices). They closed their borders and mandated a degree of individual isolation. They tested people repeatedly and traced infections diligently. They also relieved the economic impact by making up for lost incomes, averting collapse in property prices and the private equity buy-up the US is experiencing (and the bitter fallout from that is yet to be seen).

Within a few weeks, Taiwanese were once again attending baseball games in crowded stadiums.

The Taiwan governement was fucking diligent. The US did the opposite.

It's not rocket surgery.



Most that are RIGHTLY protesting now are doing so in part because it's increasingly clear the intention was never to get us out of this current predicament, because it was never about the virus.

It was about setting conditioning and control mechanisms for the next phase of resource/human exploitation.

The average human has every f'ing right to "kick and scream" -- you are pointing your condescending finger in the wrong direction. On the other hand, you are -- unintentionally -- partially correct, for as long as the sleepwalkers among The People continue to subscribe to narratives without discernment, the 'masters' [to borrow from Chomsky below] will continue to press forward.

Only wide-scale solidarity among the people can stop it. We won't get there by castigating those that should be your ally.

Perhaps the reason it "worked" in Taiwan is... BECAUSE THIS VIRUS IS NOWHERE NEAR THE THREAT IT'S MADE OUT OUT TO BE, certainly not anymore* (Taiwan simply chose to move on without applying the same BS propaganda tactics as other nations. Taiwan is also not a major 'power'). AGAIN: The numbers/stats -- the death counts, the "case" counts -- are manipulated. PCR cycle thresholds can be throttled up or down to increase or decrease rates of positivity. Very few clinics are tracking Ct.

*though even in the first few weeks the death numbers were grossly inflated by the mishandling of the old and the infirm, as well as poor treatment methods (ventilators set to absurd pressure rates, etc). This will become more evident in the years ahead, despite attempts to obfuscate [SEE CUOMO].


This can continue, and likely will, FOR YEARS. And many will continue to subscribe.

This bullshit could have ended months ago by taking a few extra precautionary steps for a more-aggressive-than-average flu season. But it hasn't ended because -- once again -- there is no interest in 'ending' this anytime soon, not by those controlling the levers (there will always be viruses. There will always be health threats, but NONE of the excessive actions taken should EVER be justified. This should be EVIDENT).

UNPRECEDENTED WEALTH SHIFT in the past year. INCREASED MONITORING AND COMPLIANCE. Why would they STOP this, barring mass revolt?

Those that continue to subscribe to the f'ing narratives as presented, at this point, have no right to raise any complaints in the years to come.

I believe it was you, Elvis, that re-quoted Chomsky in the 'Occupy 2021' thread:

From the point of view of the masters, you’re only supposed to care about yourself, not about other people. This is quite different from the people they claim are their heroes, like Adam Smith, who based his whole approach to the economy on the principle that sympathy is a fundamental human trait—but that has to be driven out of people’s heads. You’ve got to be for yourself and follow the vile maxim—“don’t care about others”—which is okay for the rich and powerful, but devastating for everyone else.”
- Chomsky


THEY don't care about you. As has been demonstrated for years. Except now their focus will be largely domestic.


It may not be 'rocket surgery', but it's apparently more difficult than you lay out, because the first step is to realize the extent of the LIES, and collectively, refuse to subscribe to them any longer.

Not so easy, is it?

Not as long as many continue to be lulled into a media-induced trance, staring at screens with their mouths muzzled.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby mentalgongfu2 » Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:06 am

A few points.

Fauci cannot be simultaneously an agent of evil who is profiting hand over fist on the Covid reality or perceived reality ,and also a "career bureaucrat with no scientific achievements to his name," as cited by random twitter dude Slothrop. Either he has a stake in patents and vaccines because his stamp is in there somewhere, or he doesn't because he has accomplished nothing, He is simultaneously a horrible threat while also being ineffective. It makes no sense, but OK, we'll put a pin in that for the moment.

Let's talk about Taiwan. Let's talk about how manufacturing has resumed there in full force, unlike in China despite the very important economic ties of both with each other and the US, because Taiwan has Covid much more under control. Not that China didn't try, but perhaps the closed nature and physical isolation made it more possible. Whatever the reason,Taiwan has succeeded much more than China. Do you really believe China with all of the detrimental economic impacts of the pandemic is pretending about the seriousness of Covid so they can, what? Hurt their economy harder as a way to really teach their citizens a lesson? Give other nations a good reason to look again to moving production to countries like Vietnam and South Korea? That's plain stupidity. Their economy relies as much on exports as the US economy relies on Chinese imports. Expanded relations with Europe aside, they've not voluntarily sacrificed so much of that American trade solely to perpetuate some lie about Covid that Belligerent Savant and Alex Jones are exposing.

FINALLY
This bullshit could have ended months ago by taking a few extra precautionary steps for a more-aggressive-than-average flu season. But it hasn't ended because -- once again -- there is no interest in 'ending' this anytime soon, not by those controlling the levers (there will always be viruses. There will always be health threats, but NONE of the excessive actions taken should EVER be justified. This should be EVIDENT).


You say this after how many pages of arguing against any precautionary step conceivable. You spend most of the thread arguing that masks are worthless, social distancing orders are stupid, etc, and then pull out this thing about "a few extra precautionary steps?" Once again, NAME THEM. Beyond wearing masks, which you have opposed, social distancing, which you have opposed, what "few extra precautionary steps" do you propose to help out? How do you honestly oppose the excessive actions while equally standing in opposition to the small actions? What fucking actions does that leave left?

I think all you've got left is calling people who disagree "sheeple." No one could, in your mind, have an honest disagreement, or be unconvinced, unless they were victims of your so-called "media-induced trance."

It may not be 'rocket surgery', but it's apparently more difficult than you lay out, because the first step is to realize the extent of the LIES, and collectively, refuse to subscribe to them any longer.


Maybe the first step is to realize that anyone who tells you the "first step" is disbelieving anything you think you know sounds like a GD cult leader, and maybe people should rely on their own faculties to suss out truth and lies on an individual basis rather than buying into any narrative that comes pre-packaged. .
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby DrEvil » Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:17 pm

Makes perfect sense to me: the US, UK, Brazil, Mexico, India and China are all intentionally trashing their economies so a German engineer can automate industry. It's so obvious really when you think about it.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:14 pm

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dada » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:16 am wrote:The Jeff Wells tweet ignores the fact that any suicide is clearly caused by more than societal response to the virus. Obviously we aren't all killing ourselves. To reduce suicide like that, just to make it serve the latest argument on twitter, I think is ghoulish.


The above comment hasn't aged well, at all.

Here's just one of MANY examples that can be shared; this one is specific to one of the more restrictive cities (and State):

Record-high number of suicidal children forces San Francisco to sue its own school district to reopen. There's a 66% increase in the number of suicidal children in the emergency room.

12:20 PM · Feb 13, 2021

https://www.theblaze.com/news/suicides- ... ols-reopen


I've long past belabored my point on this thread. [More than] enough said on my end.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Grizzly » Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:48 pm

Somewhere back 282 pages ago, I posted a Prescient scholar, whom completely laid out and resonated with everything that was to come, which to my view has. including high teen suicide as well as other detrimental things, though it was poop pooped by the same crowd here as then as now. with added driveby by Rex. "That's Scientology!", everyone screamed... But god-damn if she wasn't dead on right.

Note, I did spend some time looking for it, and gave up. I'm sickened that all of my favorite blogs defaulted to let google alphabet store their archives. oh well... sigh.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby dada » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:42 pm

"The above comment hasn't aged well, at all."

If you say so. I still feel the same about it. Suicides being used to score points in this ridiculous parody of a debate is ghoulish.

Maybe we could ask why, when schools are closed due to pandemic, did the suicide rate increase. Explore deeper societal failures and inadequacies. In this hostile atmosphere, a discussion like that has to fight just to happen. I'm a monster for even suggesting it.
Both his words and manner of speech seemed at first totally unfamiliar to me, and yet somehow they stirred memories - as an actor might be stirred by the forgotten lines of some role he had played far away and long ago.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:47 am

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One more follow-up for those that look at Taiwan as some sort of 'confirmation' that absurd lockdown/tracing/etc policies have broad merit.

What of Nepal?


https://www.theguardian.com/global-deve ... en-economy


‘It’s as if there’s no Covid’: Nepal defies pandemic amid a broken economy

Traffic jams and soaring pollution levels are back. Political leaders are organising mass rallies, far more focused on fighting each other than any virus. If poorer Nepalis are struggling with the dire economic fallout from Covid-19, on the surface, at least, it appears daily life in the capital, Kathmandu, is back to normal.

“It’s as if nothing has happened. The nightclubs are crowded. Schools and colleges are reopening. Sports venues are full. It doesn’t seem like there is any Covid,” says Sameer Mani Dixit, a public health specialist. “It defies logic.”



Apparently Covid ignores certain regions, eh? Or perhaps more to the point: the people of this region are already, historically, battling crisis in livelihood in their day-to-day lives Pre-Covid, so a virus -- regardless of lethality -- wouldn't be too far removed from the stresses they already endure. In other words: FEAR TACTICS WON'T WORK ON THEM, as it does among the relatively comfortable. As a result, no "pandemic" for Nepal.


It doesn't 'defy logic' when one looks at the raw data rather than the BULLSHIT PROPAGANDA.

Also, see Pakistan: only had ~22 days of lockdown, then the Govt realized it was crashing their economy and lifted the lockdowns. Result: the curve not only flattened, but also dropped dramatically.


(Side-note, specific to the U.S.: in addition to dramatic upticks in suicides and suicidal thoughts among younger age groups, homicide rates AND car accident fatalities were HIGHER in 2020 compared to prior years.)
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby conniption » Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:11 pm

The Wall Will Fall

Essential reading to understand the COVID19 fraud.

vanessa beeley / 6 days ago

The following post was compiled by Robin Westenra and contains vital links and resources:

The following is a set of questions that I have put together for those who are still “sitting on the fence” and who might be persuaded to do their own research. It is, for that reason more conservative than my own personal position.

I hope that you will take this as a resource that you can share with your friends and relatives.

I am emailing it out to everyone I know.

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I have been following this for some time and feeling rather uncomfortable about what I was hearing. A video by a rest home worker in the US with a heartfelt cry saying his residents were “droppin like flies” shortly after taking the vaccine made me decide I cannot stay silent

So, I just want to pose the same questions I have asked myself over the past months and invite you to do the research yourself and find your own answers. I do not wish to persuade you of any one viewpoint. I think they are important questions.

Mostly, we get our information from TV sound bites and newspaper articles that do not provide context and often contradict each other, r so we do not get the chance to ask questions.

When we do ask the questions it is often hard to find answers. It takes quite a lot of research as well as a good memory.

I have put in red the items I think warrant a close look

If you find the following useful I would suggest you share it with your friends and ask them to share it with their friends.

If you do not just let it rest there.

COVID-19 TESTING

When covid-19 began to dominate the headlines from March, 2020 there was a lot of reference to testing but on searching I could not find any answers to my questions of what it was and what does it measure? The only answers to the question came from people completely outside the mainstream. This situation has changed quite a bit over the months but to this day the one place I cannot get information is in this country.

We keep hearing that people have tested positive for covid-19. But what does that really mean


Here are some of my questions: ...continues...

https://thewallwillfall.org/2021/02/09/ ... d19-fraud/
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby mentalgongfu2 » Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:33 am

Nepal is an interesting case study, but it is disingenuous to suggest it is remotely comparable to what has happened and is happening in the U.S. Do you know anything about Nepal? I do. Not exactly apples to apples. And the fact that you're forced to reach for that as your best example says a lot on it's own.

That you choose to ignore all of the portions of the same article that do not support your predetermined conclusions shows clearly where you stand in this 'discussion.'

“The government has been very inefficient. There has been a reluctance to engage experts and use data and science. The prime minister has failed to follow public health advice. He has been giving mixed messages,” says Subedi.


“The local government gave 10kg of rice only once in the name of relief. It didn’t even feed our family for a week. The lack of livelihood has become very difficult,” says community activist Lagendra Sada.
Might shed light on why they are acting as if COVID doesn't exist. Because they have no alternatives with a gov't that has no means or willingness to support them.

The coronavirus pandemic has exposed entrenched social problems: poor governance, caste discrimination, a lack of jobs and widespread poverty, says Kanchan Jha, the director of Sano Paila, an organisation supporting marginalised communities.

Surely this is relevant, eh?

“People are losing their jobs. Frustration and anger are on the rise,” says Jha. “I fear there may be conflicts in the future.”

Yet you selectively quote only the intro paragraphs of the story and ignore the meat, like this, still from the same GD article you linked:

“The number of cases is definitely going down. The hospital admission rate is very low … Overall, it seems the virus has been contained at this stage,” says Basu Dev Pandey, a former director of the government’s Epidemiology and Disease Control Division.

Experts say it is difficult to pinpoint the reasons behind the country’s apparently low rate of infection, owing to a lack of reliable data, but Dr Anup Subedi, an infectious disease physician, points out that there has been limited testing and warns that the country is still vulnerable to new strains. “If new variants come, herd immunity doesn’t matter. Everyone becomes vulnerable again. My big fear is that this thing can explode again and we don’t have the measures in place to respond,” he says.


One might be more inclined to acknowledge certain POVs if those arguing for them weren't so clearly in the bag for finding conclusions and then looking for the examples to support them, instead of the other way around.

Belligerent Savant wrote:.

One more follow-up for those that look at Taiwan as some sort of 'confirmation' that absurd lockdown/tracing/etc policies have broad merit.

What of Nepal?


https://www.theguardian.com/global-deve ... en-economy


‘It’s as if there’s no Covid’: Nepal defies pandemic amid a broken economy

Traffic jams and soaring pollution levels are back. Political leaders are organising mass rallies, far more focused on fighting each other than any virus. If poorer Nepalis are struggling with the dire economic fallout from Covid-19, on the surface, at least, it appears daily life in the capital, Kathmandu, is back to normal.

“It’s as if nothing has happened. The nightclubs are crowded. Schools and colleges are reopening. Sports venues are full. It doesn’t seem like there is any Covid,” says Sameer Mani Dixit, a public health specialist. “It defies logic.”



Apparently Covid ignores certain regions, eh? Or perhaps more to the point: the people of this region are already, historically, battling crisis in livelihood in their day-to-day lives Pre-Covid, so a virus -- regardless of lethality -- wouldn't be too far removed from the stresses they already endure. In other words: FEAR TACTICS WON'T WORK ON THEM, as it does among the relatively comfortable. As a result, no "pandemic" for Nepal.


It doesn't 'defy logic' when one looks at the raw data rather than the BULLSHIT PROPAGANDA.

Also, see Pakistan: only had ~22 days of lockdown, then the Govt realized it was crashing their economy and lifted the lockdowns. Result: the curve not only flattened, but also dropped dramatically.


(Side-note, specific to the U.S.: in addition to dramatic upticks in suicides and suicidal thoughts among younger age groups, homicide rates AND car accident fatalities were HIGHER in 2020 compared to prior years.)
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby DrEvil » Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:21 pm

Another thing to keep in mind is the demographics of Nepal and Pakistan, specifically the age distribution of their populations.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby conniption » Fri Feb 19, 2021 3:22 am

Watch: https://vimeo.com/511180509 - 6 min. introduction at vimeo

The Pandemic Modellers Have a Conflict of Interest Problem
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Rosemary FreiBusiness

In this video and accompanying article Rosemary Frei, MSc, explores the funding sources and other potential conflicts of interest among the people who wrote the key modelling papers claiming the new variants are highly contagious and dangerous.

Her accompanying article, The Modelling-paper Mafiosi, was first posted on Feb. 11, 2021 here: rosemaryfrei.ca/the-modelling-paper-mafiosi/ - https://www.rosemaryfrei.ca/the-modelli ... r-mafiosi/

The photo of John Edmunds is from Yahoo News (web.archive.org/web/20200925155754if_/https://uk.news.yahoo.com/john-edmunds-sage-coronavirus-rules-boris-johnson-065459635.html)..
The photo of Neil Ferguson is from Wikipedia (upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/180515_ferguson_neil_sph_020.jpg/1200px-180515_ferguson_neil_sph_020.jpg).

Here are the links to material cited in video, in the order in which they appear and/or are mentioned in the video:
- My Feb. 3, 2021, ‘Are the New Variants Very Dangerous?’ article: rosemaryfrei.ca/laying-out-the-evidence/
- Basildon Canvey Southend Echo, Jan. 25, 2021 - ‘Covid: Scientist John Edmunds’ fears over new variant’: echo-news.co.uk/news/19036776.covid-scientist-john-edmundss-fears-new-variant/
- NERVTAG (New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group) Register of Member’s Interests Updated October 2017: app.box.com/s/3lkcbxepqixkg4mv640dpvvg978ixjtf/file/107168840789
- GlaxoSmithKline - Feb. 3, 2021 news release: ‘GSK and CureVac to develop next-generation mRNA COVID-19 vaccines’: gsk.com/en-gb/media/press-releases/gsk-and-curevac-to-develop-next-generation-mrna-covid-19-vaccines/
- London School of Hygiene Hygiene & Tropical Medicine Annual Report 2016: lshtm.ac.uk/files/annual-report-2016.pdf
- Gavi Alliance – About: gavi.org/our-alliance/about
- Humanosphere - May 15, 2012 - ‘Doctors Without Borders criticizes Gates-backed global vaccine strategy’: humanosphere.org/global-health/2012/05/doctors-without-borders-criticizes-gates-backed-global-vaccine-strategy/
- London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine’s The Vaccine Centre (VaC) (formerly known as the Vaccines Manufacturing Innovation Centre): lshtm.ac.uk/research/centres/vaccine-centre/about-us
- Vaccine Confidence Project: vaccineconfidence.org/about
- UK’s Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation: gov.uk/government/groups/joint-committee-on-vaccination-and-immunisation
- UK’s Vaccine Network: which until recently was known as the UK Vaccines Network (the URL for the organization has 'UK Vaccines Network' in it): gov.uk/government/groups/uk-vaccines-network
- U.K. Government’s Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies: gov.uk/government/publications/scientific-advisory-group-for-emergencies-sage-coronavirus-covid-19-response-membership/list-of-participants-of-sage-and-related-sub-groups
- U.K.’s New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group (NERVTAG): gov.uk/government/groups/new-and-emerging-respiratory-virus-threats-advisory-group
- Scientific Advisory Board for CEPI (Coalition for Epidemic Innovations): cepi.net/about/whoweare/
- CEPI’s Mission: cepi.net/about/whyweexist/
- GlaxoSmithKline - Feb. 3, 2020 news release: ‘CEPI and GSK announce collaboration to strengthen the global effort to develop a vaccine for the 2019-nCoV virus’: gsk.com/en-gb/media/press-releases/cepi-and-gsk-announce-collaboration-to-strengthen-the-global-effort-to-develop-a-vaccine-for-the-2019-ncov-virus/
- UK Column, Vanessa Beeley, April 22, 2020 – Part One. ‘Who controls the British Government response to Covid-19?’: ukcolumn.org/article/who-controls-british-government-response-covid19-part-one
- Vaccine Impact Modelling Consortium: vaccineimpact.org/resources/VIMC_orgchart_2019.pdf

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Rosemary's (this) video had been re-posted to Youtube by Vanessa Beeley (vanessa beeley [ youtube.com/channel/UCqySDfPcmKYq6oUeC03y57A ]) earlier in the day today, Saturday January 13, 2021. Only a few hours later it had been removed for "violating Youtube's terms of service".
Rosemary FreiBusiness3 days ago

Rosemary FreiBusiness3 days ago
Wow. I didn't know that. Shows how bad YouTube is! I'm not sure Vimeo is great (they showed zero views of my video for at least a day), but for now it's okay. I've signed up for Rumble in case Vimeo does even more censoring of me and I need to switch platforms.

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The Modelling-paper Mafiosi

By Rosemary Frei, MSc
February 11, 2021​


John Edmunds is on top of the world. He’s one of the modelling-paper mafiosi.

The London, U.K., professor is a key government advisor on COVID-19-related policies. Edmunds also was a co-author of one of the primary modelling papers that have been used to convince the masses that vigilance against Variant of Concern (VOC) B.1.1.7 should be their top priority.

And Edmunds co-wrote an influential January 21, 2021 report that concluded, “There is a realistic possibility that VOC B.1.1.7 is associated with an increased risk of death compared to non-VOC viruses.”

In addition, he speaks often to reporters about the deadliness of the new variant. Edmunds tells them, for example, that a “disaster” would ensue if lockdowns are eased too soon, because what first must be done is to “vaccinate much, much, much more widely than the elderly.”

Follow the funds

Edmunds also happens to be the spouse of someone who, at least until April 2020, was an employee of GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) and held shares in the company. (Edmunds doesn’t disclose this in any of his media interviews that I’ve read and watched. He also doesn’t disclose his own stock holdings.)

According to an April 2020 Daily Telegraph article, Edmunds’s wife is Jeanne Pimenta and she works for GSK. The Daily Telegraph article states Edmunds asserted his partner had recently resigned from GSK. So it’s unclear whether Pimenta currently works there or not. I did a little digging and found that the only Jeanne Pimenta LinkedIn profile indicates she’s currently director of epidemiology at GSK, while Jeanne Pimenta’s ResearchGate profile says she’s an epidemiologist at BioMarin Pharmaceutical. (I’ll have a bit more about Edmunds being married to a present or former Glaxo employee later in this article.)

In any case, GSK’s financial success is skyrocketing. On February 3 the company announced it’s collaborating with mRNA-vaccine company CureVac to spend 150 million Euros — approx $180 million USD — to make vaccines for the new variants. That effectively gives them first-entrant advantage in vaccines for the new variants. And that same Feb. 3 news release touts the new-variant vaccines as also able to serve as ‘booster’ shots after the initial rounds of vaccination.

In addition, GSK joined forces with CureVac to pump out, later this year, 100 million doses of CureVac’s ‘first-generation’ COVID-19 vaccine called ‘CvnCoV.’

Not only that: this fall GSK together with another international pharmaceutical firm, Sanofi, are scheduled to start producing what could turn out to be up to one billion doses of their COVID-19 vaccine annually. GSK’s understated Feb. 3 announcement of its Q4 2020 financial results said it will “continue to expect meaningful improvement in revenues and margins” because they are “building a high-value biopharma pipeline.”

Note that GSK and other pharma companies like Moderna and Pfizer are not responsible for damage and compensation payments to people seriously injured and killed by COVID-19 vaccines. Governments will pay instead – that is, if those injured and killed and their loved ones are able to beat the long odds and get any compensation at all.

And a remarkable February 8, 2021, investigative report in the German news outlet Welt Am Sonntag (which translates to World on Sunday) reveals another impetus for the wildly inaccurate modelling governments use to keep populations in a state of fear and control. The German article shows that in March 2020 government officials enlisted “leading scientists from several research institutes and universities. Together, they were to produce a [mathematical-modelling] paper that would serve as legitimization for further tough political measures.” These scientists obediently wrote a modelling paper tailored to the government’s instructions. The then-secret paper asserted that if lockdown measures were lifted immediately, up to one million Germans would die from COVID-19, some “agonizingly at home, gasping for breath,” after being turned away from overflowing hospitals.

Edmunds Is Deeply Invested in the Vaccine World

There’s still more to the web of money and influence surrounding Edmunds and other modelling-paper mafiosi, including Neil Ferguson (information on Ferguson is in the section below titled More Modelling Mafiosi).

The first new-variant modelling paper Edmunds co-wrote, which I mention in the second paragraph of this article, was posted on December 23, 2020. Edmunds co-authored it with his fellow members of the Centre for Mathematical Modelling of Infectious Diseases at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine (LSHTM). People in the centre’s COVID-19 Working Group also contributed.

The modelling paper was posted on the e-journal Medrχiv, which publishes only non-peer-reviewed papers. The journal is the creation of an organization headed by Facebook head Mark Zuckerberg and his wife. I discuss Medrχiv and the Zuckerberg connection in my Feb. 3 article on the baselessness for the modelling papers that claim the new variants are very dangerous.

Edmunds also is dean of the LSHTM’s Faculty of Epidemiology and Population Health. I contacted the institution’s media-relations department to request an interview with one of the Dec. 23, 2020, modelling paper’s authors. I didn’t receive a response.

In a Feb. 2017 video interview, Edmunds enthused that the LSHTM specializes in every aspect of vaccine development, from basic science to large-scale clinical trials. In the video he also touts using mathematical modelling as a good way to show that vaccines protect individuals and society. (And among other things he describes his group’s efforts in giving children flu vaccines and — in conjunction with Public Health England — promoting human papillomavirus [HPV] vaccines for girls and boys.)

In addition, Edmunds is a key member of the UK Vaccine Network (which until recently was known as the UK Vaccines Network – the URL for the organization has ‘UK Vaccines Network‘ in it).

And he’s a member of the U.K. govenment’s Science Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE), which provides Covid-measure advice — much of it related to the unprecedentedly forceful push for mass vaccination — to U.K. prime minister Boris Johnson and his cabinet.

On top of that, Edmunds is a member of the U.K. government’s New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group (NERVTAG). It works hand in hand with SAGE, and it also heavily promotes vaccination.

And as mentioned earlier, Edmunds is married to a current or former GSK employee. A 2015 article that Edmunds co-authored states under ‘Competing interests’ for Edmunds that “My partner works for GSK.” Similarly, on the NERVTAG website’s conflict-disclosure pages – which for some reason haven’t been updated since Oct. 2017 – it reveals that Edmunds’s spouse works for GSK.

As a quick other note, the ‘Author Contributions and Acknowledgements’ section of the PDF of the December 23 modelling analysis of B.1.1.7 (pages 15 and 16) shows that almost all of the paper’s authors and members of the modelling centre’s COVID-19 Working Group receive funding from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation (BMGF) and/or Wellcome Trust. (By the way, a search for Wellcome Trust yields the Wellcome website.)

And there’s more to the Edmunds story. Among other of my finds: he’s also on the Scientific Advisory Board for the Coalition for Epidemic Innovations (CEPI). CEPI was created primarily by the BMGF, the World Economic Forum and the major pharma company Wellcome. CEPI’s website states it was “launched in Davos [at the meeting of the World Economic Forum in January] 2017 to develop vaccines to stop future epidemics. Our mission is to accelerate the development of vaccines against emerging infectious diseases and enable equitable access to these vaccines for people during outbreaks.”

Investigative journalist Vanessa Beeley last year wrote a must-read two-part analysis of the ties between the key individuals, institutions, companies and funders of the UK’s Covid-19 response. She mentioned that GSK is working with CEPI to develop COVID-19 vaccines. This alliance is still going strong today.

Note also that the LSHTM’s Faculty of Epidemiology and Population Health, which Edmunds heads, is primarily funded by the BMGF and the Gavi alliance. (Gavi promotes mass vaccination of people around the world — including by quarterbacking the COVAX program. Gavi’s biggest funders include the BMGF. Doctors Without Borders has criticized GAVI for being “aimed more at supporting drug-industry desires to promote new products than at finding the most efficient and sustainable means for fighting the diseases of poverty.”)

BMGF funding for the LSHTM’s Faculty of Epidemiology and Population Health is growing very fast. For example, BMGF’s new grants to the faculty rose from $4.9 million USD in 2013-2014 (see page 14 [p. 9 in the PDF] of the LSHTM’s 2014 annual report) to $13.19 USD in 2015-2016 (see page 14 [p. 9 in the PDF] of the LSHTM’s 2016 annual report)(top new research grants to each faculty at the LSHTM stopped being reported in the annual reports after 2017). Funding from the BMGF to the LSHTM as a whole was 30.2 million pounds ($40.2 USD) in 2017-2018 (see page 9 [p. 6 in the PDF] in the school’s 2018 annual report).

By the way, the LSHTM also has a Vaccines Manufacturing Innovation Centre. It develops, tests and commercializes vaccines. (I couldn’t find any information on where the vaccines centre’s funding comes from.)

The vaccines centre also performs affiliated activities like combating ‘vaccine hesitancy.’ The latter includes the Vaccine Confidence Project. The project’s stated purpose is, among other things, “to provide analysis and guidance for early response and engagement with the public to ensure sustained confidence in vaccines and immunisation.”

The Vaccine Confidence Project’s director is LSHTM professor Heidi Larson. For more than a decade she’s been researching how to combat vaccine hesitancy. LSHTM underpins the project, which also is a member of the WHO’s Vaccine Safety Net.

More Modelling Mafiosi

Here’s information about two other members of this club:

– Public Health England (PHE) issued its first detailed report on the new variant in late December 2020 and continues to provide updates. None of their reports are peer-reviewed. One of the highest-profile co-authors of the PHE reports is PHE director Susan Hopkins. She’s also a professor of infectious diseases at Imperial College London. The college receives tens of millions of dollars a year from the BMGF. See for example this grant, this one, this one and this one. (I emailed PHE media relations to request an interview about PHE’s new-variants reports. PHE communications person Zahra Vindhani responded, “Dr. Hopkins won’t have the capacity for this in the upcoming weeks, and we aren’t able to confirm anyone else for this either.)

– PHE is guided in its approach to vaccination by PHE’s “Strategic Priority 1” for combating infections diseases in 2020-2025. It is to “Optimise vaccine provision and reduce vaccine preventable diseases in England” (see p. 9 of PHE’s Infectious Disease Strategy 2020-2025).

Neil Ferguson is a co-author of the PHE reports and also of a widely quoted December 31 modelling paper on the dangerousness of B.1.1.7. He’s Acting Director of the Imperial College London-based Vaccine Impact Modelling Consortium.

– Ferguson’s modelling has been extremely faulty again over the years. This has been thoroughly documented. For example, as investigative journalist Beeley wrote in Part One of a two-part investigative report in April-May 2020, Ferguson’s modelling over-estimated by about three million-fold the death toll from the bird flu, also known as H5N1. As a result, a lot of money was made by bird-flu-vaccine manufacturers, ranging from Roche (for its now-infamous, ineffective Tamiflu) to Sanofi, and they were used widely.

– Ferguson also grossly overestimated the effects of swine flu, or H1N1. As a result, millions of people were needlessly given GSK’s Pandemrix. It caused brain damage, primarily narcolepsy and cataplexy, in hundreds if not thousands of vaccine recipients, mostly children. The pharma giant was granted no fault in any damage claims. Therefore the British government paid more than 60 million pounds (approx. $80 million USD at 2017 conversion rates) to victims. (And as mentioned earlier in this article, GSK and other pharma companies are similarly protected from having to pay damages to people injured or killed by their COVID-19 vaccines.)

– Ferguson also is a member, together with Edmunds and others, of SAGE.

– Another group he’s a member of is the highly influential NERVTAG. It’s the group that issued the January 21, 2021 warning, mentioned earlier in this article, that B.1.1.7 is deadly. Ferguson is a NERVTAG member even though he was reported to have resigned last spring after being caught visiting with his married lover when everyone in England was supposed to only be having contact with members of their own households (based in large part on Ferguson’s modelling and his urging the government to lock the country down).

– Ferguson also is a member of the UK Vaccines Network, along with Edmunds and others such as the Network chair Chris Whitty, who’s also the UK government’s top Covid-19 adviser Chris Whitty. The network’s focus, according to its website, “to support the [U.K.] government to identify and shortlist targeted investment opportunities for the most promising vaccines and vaccine technologies that will help combat infectious diseases with epidemic potential, and to address structural issues related to the UK’s broader vaccine infrastructure.”

These ties bind Edmunds, Ferguson and Hopkins – along with the rest of the modelling-paper mafiosi — to the bidding of governments, Big Pharma, Bill Gates and other powerful players.

They present an image of being fully devoted to the public good, while in fact actively helping to destroy it.

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After obtaining an MSc in molecular biology from the Faculty of Medicine at the University of Calgary, Rosemary Frei became a freelance writer. For the next 22 years she was a medical writer and journalist. She pivoted again in early 2016 to full-time, independent activism and investigative journalism. Her website is RosemaryFrei.ca.

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How the High Death Rate in Care Homes Was Created on Purpose

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Rosemary Frei has an M.Sc in molecular biology from a faculty of medicine and was a freelance medical journalist for 22 years. She is now an independent journalist in Canada. In her recent article, "Were conditions for high death rates at Care Homes created on purpose?" she examines how all of the rules and guidelines pertaining to elderly care, death certification and treatment of bodies in Ontario have been changed during the course of this "crisis" in order to increase the numbers reported "dying of COVID." We discuss the reasons behind these changes and what they tell us about the real nature of this pandemic panic.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Fri Feb 19, 2021 3:06 pm

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We’ll Have Herd Immunity by April

Covid cases have dropped 77% in six weeks. Experts should level with the public about the good news.


By Marty Makary
Feb. 18, 2021 12:35 pm ET

Amid the dire Covid warnings, one crucial fact has been largely ignored: Cases are down 77% over the past six weeks. If a medication slashed cases by 77%, we’d call it a miracle pill. Why is the number of cases plummeting much faster than experts predicted?

In large part because natural immunity from prior infection is far more common than can be measured by testing. Testing has been capturing only from 10% to 25% of infections, depending on when during the pandemic someone got the virus. Applying a time-weighted case capture average of 1 in 6.5 to the cumulative 28 million confirmed cases would mean about 55% of Americans have natural immunity.

Now add people getting vaccinated. As of this week, 15% of Americans have received the vaccine, and the figure is rising fast. Former Food and Drug Commissioner Scott Gottlieb estimates 250 million doses will have been delivered to some 150 million people by the end of March.

There is reason to think the country is racing toward an extremely low level of infection. As more people have been infected, most of whom have mild or no symptoms, there are fewer Americans left to be infected. At the current trajectory, I expect Covid will be mostly gone by April, allowing Americans to resume normal life.

Antibody studies almost certainly underestimate natural immunity. Antibody testing doesn’t capture antigen-specific T-cells, which develop “memory” once they are activated by the virus. Survivors of the 1918 Spanish flu were found in 2008—90 years later—to have memory cells still able to produce neutralizing antibodies.

Researchers at Sweden’s Karolinska Institute found that the percentage of people mounting a T-cell response after mild or asymptomatic Covid-19 infection consistently exceeded the percentage with detectable antibodies. T-cell immunity was even present in people who were exposed to infected family members but never developed symptoms. A group of U.K. scientists in September pointed out that the medical community may be under-appreciating the prevalence of immunity from activated T-cells

Covid-19 deaths in the U.S. would also suggest much broader immunity than recognized. About 1 in 600 Americans has died of Covid-19, which translates to a population fatality rate of about 0.15%. The Covid-19 infection fatality rate is about 0.23%. These numbers indicate that roughly two-thirds of the U.S. population has had the infection.

In my own conversations with medical experts, I have noticed that they too often dismiss natural immunity, arguing that we don’t have data. The data certainly doesn’t fit the classic randomized-controlled-trial model of the old-guard medical establishment. There’s no control group. But the observational data is compelling.

I have argued for months that we could save more American lives if those with prior Covid-19 infection forgo vaccines until all vulnerable seniors get their first dose. Several studies demonstrate that natural immunity should protect those who had Covid-19 until more vaccines are available. Half my friends in the medical community told me: Good idea. The other half said there isn’t enough data on natural immunity, despite the fact that reinfections have occurred in less than 1% of people—and when they do occur, the cases are mild.

But the consistent and rapid decline in daily cases since Jan. 8 can be explained only by natural immunity. Behavior didn’t suddenly improve over the holidays; Americans traveled more over Christmas than they had since March. Vaccines also don’t explain the steep decline in January. Vaccination rates were low and they take weeks to kick in.

My prediction that Covid-19 will be mostly gone by April is based on laboratory data, mathematical data, published literature and conversations with experts. But it’s also based on direct observation of how hard testing has been to get, especially for the poor. If you live in a wealthy community where worried people are vigilant about getting tested, you might think that most infections are captured by testing. But if you have seen the many barriers to testing for low-income Americans, you might think that very few infections have been captured at testing centers. Keep in mind that most infections are asymptomatic, which still triggers natural immunity.

Many experts, along with politicians and journalists, are afraid to talk about herd immunity. The term has political overtones because some suggested the U.S. simply let Covid rip to achieve herd immunity. That was a reckless idea. But herd immunity is the inevitable result of viral spread and vaccination. When the chain of virus transmission has been broken in multiple places, it’s harder for it to spread—and that includes the new strains.

Herd immunity has been well-documented in the Brazilian city of Manaus, where researchers in the Lancet reported the prevalence of prior Covid-19 infection to be 76%, resulting in a significant slowing of the infection. Doctors are watching a new strain that threatens to evade prior immunity. But countries where new variants have emerged, such as the U.K., South Africa and Brazil, are also seeing significant declines in daily new cases. The risk of new variants mutating around the prior vaccinated or natural immunity should be a reminder that Covid-19 will persist for decades after the pandemic is over. It should also instill a sense of urgency to develop, authorize and administer a vaccine targeted to new variants.

Some medical experts privately agreed with my prediction that there may be very little Covid-19 by April but suggested that I not to talk publicly about herd immunity because people might become complacent and fail to take precautions or might decline the vaccine. But scientists shouldn’t try to manipulate the public by hiding the truth. As we encourage everyone to get a vaccine, we also need to reopen schools and society to limit the damage of closures and prolonged isolation. Contingency planning for an open economy by April can deliver hope to those in despair and to those who have made large personal sacrifices.

Dr. Makary is a professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine and Bloomberg School of Public Health, chief medical adviser to Sesame Care, and author of “The Price We Pay.”




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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby stickdog99 » Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:23 pm

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 20047217v2

RESULTS We included 15 randomised trials investigating the effect of masks (14 trials) in healthcare workers and the general population and of quarantine (1 trial). We found no trials testing eye protection. Compared to no masks there was no reduction of influenza-like illness (ILI) cases (Risk Ratio 0.93, 95%CI 0.83 to 1.05) or influenza (Risk Ratio 0.84, 95%CI 0.61-1.17) for masks in the general population, nor in healthcare workers (Risk Ratio 0.37, 95%CI 0.05 to 2.50). There was no difference between surgical masks and N95 respirators: for ILI (Risk Ratio 0.83, 95%CI 0.63 to 1.08), for influenza (Risk Ratio 1.02, 95%CI 0.73 to 1.43). Harms were poorly reported and limited to discomfort with lower compliance. The only trial testing quarantining workers with household ILI contacts found a reduction in ILI cases, but increased risk of quarantined workers contracting influenza. All trials were conducted during seasonal ILI activity.

CONCLUSIONS Most included trials had poor design, reporting and sparse events. There was insufficient evidence to provide a recommendation on the use of facial barriers without other measures. We found insufficient evidence for a difference between surgical masks and N95 respirators and limited evidence to support effectiveness of quarantine. Based on observational evidence from the previous SARS epidemic included in the previous version of our Cochrane review we recommend the use of masks combined with other measures.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby thrulookingglass » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:48 am

I was reviewing some lectures given by Col. Fletcher Prouty and I've always kept his assessments as accurate. So he says AIDS is a bio-weapon developed in house by the US and is a matter of record. Which of course leads me to entertain the idea that Covid is the same, a bio-weapon used as a nefarious means of population control. This is probably an extremely controversial opinion to keep or make public on the internets, though in this world its usually what you don't want to admit that is most true. I had heard that there was a military training exercise with joint forces in China just around the time of the outbreak what seems like centuries ago. Also there is a bio-lab in the Wuhan area and we know the US government uses the CDC to research bio-weapons. Does anyone have data on this?

"The Kennedy assassination has demonstrated that most of the major events of world significance are masterfully planned and orchestrated by an elite coterie of enormously powerful people who are not of one nation, one ethnic group, or one over-ridingly important business group. They are a power unto themselves for whom those others work. Neither is this power-elite of recent origin. Its roots grow deep into the past." - Col Fletcher Prouty

Power. Superiority complexes. Control. Occulted control mechanisms. Religion. Nationalism. Dulling down the senses of the population. Disparagements, defamation, cast aspersions, defile and deride your enemy. Its no wonder leaders who stand for peace, I'll let you make that list on your own, are gunned down in the streets. None of these ungodly world horrors will end until people with a spine and a want for a better life for their children's future stand up for what's right. Peace is priceless, war is costly. Wait until all those queued up evictions start. Class warfare, its fucking brutal. The haves vs. the have nots. What a preposterous way to live. My life is at odds with my soul. "If I had a solution baby...I'd fix us all..." Jesus and some of the more prescient saints say there's a need for profound love. Profound love that rises above all transgressions. Jubilation. Absolution. And yet you will hear many a preacher explain to you that heaven is the "whites only" water fountain. An occulted violent fist drenched in male arrogance runs this world. They are oil barons, defense contractors, international business men. They hide in plain sight now. Watch the melees play out as a "social darwinistic" fray for a dose of inoculant. How many does your fall out shelter hold? They tweeted, reveled in electric cars, grubhub, football victories, vapid tictoc videos, thread danced, vlogged, and celebrated internet media while the world crumbled beneath their feet. Global Nero complex. Come wormwood. Poison our skies. God-awful.

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