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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby Simulist » Mon May 21, 2012 10:13 pm

lupercal wrote:^
Peregrine wrote:Don't let the door hit your butt on the way out.

Peregrine are you sure you're not shooting the messenger? Because I don't see Hugh doing anything worthy of a disciplinary threat. If anything peartreed deserves a stern word for starting a flamebait thread, by his own admission several times, but since it's been pretty interesting if not always civil I wouldn't want to see that happen either.

That's nuts. Hugh disrupts discussions all the time — and we all know it. In fact, Lupercal, Hugh does this so frequently that this board's administration had to come up with guidelines for him to follow in order to rein that habit of his in just a bit.

And the only ones who appear not to notice that Hugh disrupts discussions (like this one) are a tiny, tiny percentage of his zealous supporters who choose to remain willfully ignorant of this fact, and who make inane posts like you just did.
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby barracuda » Mon May 21, 2012 10:15 pm

lupercal wrote: I don't see Hugh doing anything worthy of a disciplinary threat. If anything peartreed deserves a stern word for starting a flamebait thread, by his own admission, several times, but since it's been interesting if not always civil I wouldn't want to see that either.


Nice spin.

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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon May 21, 2012 11:58 pm

I'lll repeat the data.

HMW wrote:By amazing coincidence,
.....
.. National Propaganda Radio chose to rerun their 'To the Best of Our Knowledge' show about television propaganda in the USSR and how 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers' was really about politics, specifically Communism!
.....


That's data worth discussing.
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NPR is 'Them." They are promoting just a tad of propaganda script history by featuring a book called
'Hollywood's Cold War' by Tony Shaw.

http://www.amazon.com/Hollywoods-Volume ... 1558496122
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So that makes WWII a time of Hollywood psyops scripts.
And thatt makes the Cold War a time of Hollywood psyops scripts.
And...?

If you didn't follow the link I gave in my previous post, please do. It's a hoot-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hoover

it was a humorous self-referential image of *stand-up* comic Sam Kinison
in a 1991 television sitcom playing a character named "Hugh" who sits on the shoulder of someone named "Hoover" trying to influence him.

That's on-topic cross-referenced coincidence as irony.
Hoped you'd be interested and get the joke. Cause Kinison's image was as an impatient screamer....See, ya have to read these posts....
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Tue May 22, 2012 12:30 am

I find Tony Shaw's book to be just the tip...which is why NPR would examine it to serve as limited hang-out.
But a start-


"In the forty-plus years that the Cold War dominated international politics, cinema became party to what Tony Shaw describes as “the longest of all national cinematic propaganda wars.”

http://www.latrobe.edu.au/screeningthep ... d-war.html

Tony Shaw,
Hollywood’s Cold War.
Baltimore: University of Massachusetts Press, 2007
ISBN: 978-1-55849-612-5
US$29.95 (pb)
352pp
(Review copy supplied by University of Massachusetts Press
http://www.umass.edu/umpress/about.html)

In the forty-plus years that the Cold War dominated international politics, cinema became party to what Tony Shaw describes as “the longest of all national cinematic propaganda wars” (p. 2). Shaw’s meticulously researched book, Hollywood’s Cold War, investigates the history of the mainstream American film industry’s willing collusion with Washington to produce and disseminate anti-communist entertainment nationally and internationally, while simultaneously marketing American capitalist ideologies to the world. Shaw’s nine chapters together provide a detailed overview of Hollywood’s role as a propaganda machine while providing a concise history of Hollywood between 1939 and 1989, reminding readers of the constantly changing conditions affecting the film industry. Each chapter contains case studies featuring up to three films. Typically, Shaw provides a background on the making of each film, the role of government in its production, discussions about the key personnel involved, and the general reception of the film by audiences and critics. Shaw rarely engages in close analysis of the films he has selected, opting instead to provide general synopses of their plots.
Beginning with an analysis of the planning and production of Ernst Lubitsch’s Ninotchka in 1939, Shaw first provides a record of politically motivated films produced between 1917 through to Lubitsch’s film, tracing the various positive and negative representations of communism, from the first Red threat following the Bolshevik Revolution, to the depression era membership growth of the CPUSA. Calling the chapter ‘Love and Defection’, Shaw notes how Ninotchka was the “first movie that fully articulated a materialist view of the capitalist-communist divide” (p. 34), lampooning Soviet communism as it celebrates the excesses of Western consumerism. The film demonstrates how sophisticated anti-communist propaganda, presented as light entertainment, was alive and well in Hollywood prior to the Truman Doctrine. Indeed, Shaw points out how, throughout Ninotchka, the Soviet’s “repressive, even murderous regime is made abundantly clear” (p. 19), despite being a frivolous romantic comedy. Yet, Shaw argues, it is the film’s innocent innocuous sheen that made it such an effective propaganda tool in the United States and Europe on its initial release and thereafter.
‘The Enemy Within’, outlines the concerted efforts of various bodies, including the House Committee of UnAmerican Activities, Motion Picture Alliance, the Legion of Decency and the Federal Bureau of Investigation, to subdue filmmakers. Shaw uses Walk East on Beacon (USA 1952) for his case study, and meticulously traces how the FBI actively assisted in the making of the film, and others like it, in an effort to promote the Bureau’s profile, and that “encouraged ‘alert and responsible’ Americans to play an active part in the struggle against communism by acting as citizen warriors” (p. 60).
‘Projecting a Prophet for a Profit’ recounts the involvement of the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in funding British adaptations of George Orwell’s Animal Farm and 1984 to the big screen. Shaw recounts how the CIA believed that international audiences responded better to films with anti-communist messages if they were perceived as not made by Americans. Shaw goes behind the scenes to reveal how Batchelor and Halas’ animated adaptation of Animal Farm watered down Orwell’s message to accommodate capitalist ideologies. In his analysis of Anderson’s 1956 adaptation of 1984, Shaw concludes that the film’s disastrous critical and box office reception provided “a painful lesson in the difficulties of constructing effective propaganda when commercial and political interests were not in unison” (p. 93).
‘Of Gods and Moguls’ recounts how “religion was an integral component of Cold War cinematic discourse in the 1950s” (p. 127), when renewed religious fervor in America prompted Hollywood to produce films exploiting religious motifs. The Eisenhower administration supported capitalising on the importance of Christian values in order to combat communist atheism. Shaw argues that Cecil B. De Mille, a staunch anti-communist, produced The Ten Commandments (USA 1956) as an epic propaganda piece that exposes the evils of totalitarian regimes that operate to enslave men and contravene God’s laws. Shaw’s meticulously researched background detailing the making and reception of The Ten Commandments is compelling reading.
‘Negotiable Dissent’ contends that, despite the popular assumption that American filmmakers in the 1950s were controlled and silenced, Shaw points out that there remained “some sort of forum for debate” (p. 136) in which filmmakers could voice concerns about the running of the country and Cold War issues. He draws evidence from three films: The Day the Earth Stood Still (USA 1951) and On the Beach (USA 1959) which focus on the apocalyptic capacity of nuclear weapons and question the wisdom of the arms race, while Storm Centre (USA 1956) equates McCarthyism with totalitarianism.
Race relations in the United States were a source of international embarrassment for the US government in the 1960s. Washington saw the issue of racial injustice and the high profile civil rights movement as severely undermining its Cold War propaganda efforts overseas. ‘Turning a Negative into a Positive’ looks at government produced documentaries, such as The March (USA 1964) and Nine from Little Rock (USA 1964) that attempt to redress the country’s negative civil rights record by portraying race relations in a positive light and African Americans as the beneficiaries of a nation of boundless opportunities.
According to Shaw, John Wayne was Hollywood’s ultimate Cold War warrior and “had a greater impact on the way Americans viewed the conflict than probably any other Hollywood figure” (p. 200). ‘A Cowboy in Combats’ outlines how since the 1920s, the Pentagon has collaborated with Hollywood, providing military hardware and expertise while filmmakers presented the US armed forces in a positive light and made national service appealing. Shaw provides an overview of the Duke’s film career and fervent anti-communist activism before providing an extensive background on the development, making, and reception of the controversial pro-Vietnam war vehicle, The Green Berets (USA 1968).
Shaw challenges assumptions that the 1970s signal a lull in films exploring Cold War subject matter, stating that general disillusionment over Vietnam and US foreign policy fueled a range of films that criticised US Cold War politics and questioned the lack of accountability of the CIA. ‘Secrets and Lies’ analyses two such films: Peter Davis’ Academy Award winning documentary protesting America’s presence in Vietnam, Hearts and Minds (USA 1975), and Sydney Pollack’s espionage thriller, Three Days of the Condor (USA 1975), which criticises the impunity of the CIA.
The final chapter, titled ‘The Empire Strikes Back’, provides a fitting conclusion to a study about films and politics. Shaw details how Reagan’s media smarts enabled him to lead a successful attack against leftist values in America and reignite animosities with the USSR. The chapter contains three case studies that allow Shaw to discuss the different phases of the second Cold War. According to Shaw, John Milius’ invasion narrative, Red Dawn (USA 1984), “made Hollywood’s McCarthy-era Red-baiting material look positively restrained” (p. 269). Interestingly, a remake of Red Dawn is scheduled for release in November 2010 and features a joint invasion of the USA by Chinese and Russian forces. Shaw’s discussion of Alex Cox’s Walker (USA/Mexico/Spain 1987) is engrossing reading. The film includes such blatant criticism of the CIA funding of Nicaraguan Contras that Universal Studios did their utmost to suppress it. Red Heat (West Germany/USA/Austria 1988) alludes to the new atmosphere of openness between the superpowers as a result of Gorbachev’s progressive policies. The film’s buddy cop formula provides a reimagining of Ninotchka, which allows Shaw to shrewdly come full circle, ending his book where he began.

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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Tue May 22, 2012 12:40 am

Another Tony Shaw Cold War psynema book focuses on the UK's end of the anglophone phonies-

http://www.amazon.com/British-Cinema-Co ... 186064371X

British Cinema and the Cold War (Cinema and Society)
by Tony Shaw (2001)
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Tue May 22, 2012 12:45 am

4 years ago I posted about Karl Rove in Hollywood, Jack Valenti, etc.-

http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/ ... 43&t=16533

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/11/08/r ... hollywood/

White House sees Hollywood role in war on terrorism

November 8, 2001

From John King
CNN Washington Bureau

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush's top political strategist plans to meet with an array of entertainment executives Sunday to discuss the war on terrorism and ways that Hollywood stars and films might work in concert, in ways both formal and informal, with the administration's communications strategy.

The effort is spearheaded by senior Bush adviser Karl Rove and Jack Valenti, chairman of the Motion Picture Association of America, who attended a White House meeting earlier this week to lay the groundwork for the session.

The meeting is set for 11 a.m. local time at the Peninsula Hotel in Beverly Hills. A final roster of attendees is not set, but an industry source said major studio executives and and network entertainment chiefs were invited along with "top tier" creative minds from Hollywood.

"This will be a summit-level group of people who make things happen -- a serious discussion," the industry source said, predicting about 40 people would join the discussions.

White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said Thursday the meeting was organized by Sherry Lansing of Paramount and said CBS television, Viacom, Showtime, Dreamworks, HBO and MGM were a few of the companies expected to be represented.

Fleischer compared the Hollywood outreach to meetings that White House has held with other U.S. communities to shore up support for the U.S. action in Afghanistan, such as the disabled community and NASCAR.

"Across America every community is looking to pitch in, Hollywood included, and this White House is pleased" to be meeting with entertainment executives, Fleischer said.

One senior administration official familiar with the planning said Rove had a number of thoughts about how the entertainment industry could "be part of the spirit" in the country.

The official said Rove "anticipates the industry would be doing a lot of things on its own, but also sees an opportunity to do some things together."

Among the ideas that have come up in informal discussions: public service announcements saluting U.S. troops, or discussions of homeland security efforts here in the United States.

Another possibility is for prominent Arabs and Muslims to make statements reflecting the White House line that it is a war against terrorism, not Islam. Such "shorts" -- brief productions -- might be aired in movie theaters before feature films or provided to media outlets as public service announcements.

Rove also wants to give industry executives a general outline of a multifaceted campaign "because it is clear that the topics the president and the world are dealing with are topics the entertainment industry is going to deal with in its full spectrum of programs and other products," the official said.

This official said there was no effort to pressure the industry, but that as issues like homeland security, terrorism, and chemical and biological warfare are portrayed in entertainment and other media programming and products, "it is our hope that these issues are handled in a responsible manner and providing information on what we are up to and what we see as the challenges hopefully is something they will find useful."

Many Republicans were scathingly critical of former President Clinton's close ties to Hollywood and the entertainment industry's deep Democratic fund-raising reservoir.

But Rove has worked to have at least cordial if not better relations with many industry officials, and Valenti is a periodic visitor to the White House for briefings on major issues and initiatives. He was described as eager to help arrange Sunday's meeting in Los Angeles.

The industry source credited the president and Rove with building solid relations with the industry and said, "It is a relationship of respect. Clinton liked to mine us for money, but we have accomplished more with this administration than we ever did with Clinton."

"We don't expect them to ask 'Make movies glorifying the president or the troops' and that is not something we would be receptive to if they did ask," this source said. "But there is a high level of interest in being supportive and informative and these are the people who give things the green light and get projects moving along."

In addition to programs aimed at domestic audiences, this official said the discussion was almost certain to include "things that can be tailored for more of an international view, and also things for the Armed Forces networks so we can reach the troops overseas. ... This will be a solid brainstorming session."
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby DrVolin » Tue May 22, 2012 7:52 am

Again, I don't think anyone here denies that film, books, and their associated publicity campaigns are used for propaganda purposes by intel agencies and other state and non-state actors. This is activity is well documented.

But Hugh, documenting those activities in general does nothing to support your particular claimed instances. Those need their own documentation. What you are doing is akin to saying that since it rains outside some of the time, it must be raining now. When someone asks you to prove that it is raining now, you give a lecture on climate to prove that it sometimes rains. No one is saying that it never rains. They are just not sure whether it is raining right now. The only way to check that is to step outside and carefully document a particular instance.
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby DrVolin » Tue May 22, 2012 8:56 am

For instance.

We all know that it rains sometimes, and we even understand how, at a certain level. As for the question is it raining now, i.e. is Rango a KWH based coverup of the Rongelap tests, we have had no direct documentation either in support or against the hypothesis. We are therefore limited to discussing whether it makes sense to us. If one party ever brings hard evidence one way or the other (steps outside to check), we don't actually know whether it is raining or not. But we can rely on other cues to constrain our idea of whether it might be raining right now. Is it darker than it should be outside? Do we feel some humidity in the air? etc.

Rango makes sense to me as a linguistic caricature of a Texan Ringo, which is appropriate for a Western cartoon comedy. It doesn't make sense to my ears as a KWH of Rongolap, which sounds completely different to me.

The lizard with a Hawaian shirt, holding on to a beach toy as a security blanket makes sense to me as a portrayal of an out of place character, and one that sees the world slightly differently than everyone else, leading to comedic outcomes. There is sand everywhere, it is warm and sunny, and on that basis, the character has prepared for the beach. But the character is in fact in the desert, and realizes it (hence the security blanket physicality). This is the same family of comedic character as Clouseau, for example, with the important differences that Clouseau never does realize that he is out of place (except in Alan Arkin's portrayal).

I can easily see how an artist would come up with that vision when designing something for a children's film. It successfuly plays on a critical cognitive skill that children are in the process of acquiring: overall assesment of context. A tiny failure in that process (not noticing that there is no water, the crucial difference between desert and beach) leads to a funny outcome and presents the character as one who will repeatedly misapprehend situations and react in incongruous ways. It doesn't make nearly as much sense to me that a Pentagon basement Psyop elf would come up with the same picture as a visual hijack of a genetically defective pacific island fisherman. There are much better candidates for that. For example, any of the legions of 1950s rubber monster beach horror films.

And the important point here is that these feelings of make-senseness, these prior probabilities, are all we have to go on here in the absence of actual evidence one way or another. So you see that no amount of evidence that KWH happens in the movies will help us conclude that the Rango/Rongelap KWH makes sense. Since it doesn't. To us. Hard evidence of it would be a very different thing. It might be a much easier starting point to pick one of the likely 1950s rubber monster beach films and dig into its production to find actual hard evidence of hijack.
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby Bruce Dazzling » Tue May 22, 2012 9:53 am

A quick review of the last several pages of this thread demonstrates that Hugh is in violation of the following board rule:

Jeff wrote:To accommodate both the interest in discussing psyops
and "keyword hijacking," and the concern over how such discussions
often proceed here by way of subject disruption and "thread
hijacking," I'm instituting the following:

1. I've created a new forum, "Psyops and Meme Management," dedicated
to the subject.

2. Original posts on the subject are still welcome in General Discussion.

3. One reply which introduces the subject to an unrelated thread will
be permitted
, but all subsequent discussion of "keyword hijacking"
must take place in a new thread in either General Discussion or in
"Psyops and Meme Management". A link to it may be posted in the
original thread.

4. Subsequent off-topic replies will be subject to deletion.

5. Habitual non-observance of these guidelines will be regarded as
disruption.


Since Hugh is a repeat offender, I'm exiling him for two weeks.
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby peartreed » Tue May 22, 2012 2:11 pm

Government lobbying the film industry is a routine influence brought to bear on studios and producers to encourage support and positive reinforcement of national policies, positions and military campaigns. The industry, in turn, also relies on government regulation, support, subsidy, equipment/services access and systems to function. At the policy and macro operational level it’s a mutual dependence.

In the USA , studio film policy is set and administered by the AMPTP (Motion Picture and Television Producers Assn) and, similarly, in Canada by the Canadian Media Producers Assn. Most countries operate with equivalent film producer associations. These are the major studios like Paramount, Disney, MGM, Warner Bros., Viacom, etc. that, as a body, also negotiate contracts with the major film industry unions like SAG, IATSE, Teamsters, Directors Guild, etc. Executive level contact is continuous.

The top policy makers on all sides generate agreements and guidelines but seldom get into writing an actual film scripts’ premise, plots, chapters, characters, scenes, dialogue lines or narration. They do usually select, approve and reject scripts for production, but rarely write them. And, individually, the brass has personal biases.

I was on a MacGyver set when the one of the catering truck workers wore a big Soviet military fur hat featuring a large red star badge that she had borrowed from the costume department. She didn’t last through lunch once the Line Producer saw it. There are fierce patriots and former military everywhere, and some in authority.

But the tampering with scripts is more of a “bottom up” than a “top down” process.

As outlined at the start of this thread, script revisions occurs at many stages – and for a vast variety of reasons.

Even for conspiracy shows like, “The X-Files” or ,”The Lone Gunmen”, most of the content is a product of the writer’s background research of the genre’s known and recorded history. The writers and story editors of those shows plumbed existing books, online sites and sources to find “factual” research – similar case histories whose borrowed elements might then lend verisimilitude to the script they were developing. Blatant copying is not uncommon, especially of a winning formula.

Earlier in this thread I listed the shows that inspired the writers and producers of those episodes, by their own admission. I also know they extracted background data from a UFO Forum I used to be a SYSOP on. And those sites, shows and sources were also subject to the same government intel influences and input at issue.

In previous posts I described how the UFO Forum on CompuServe was actively monitored and messed with by the Pentagon’s Directorate of Science & Technology under Dr. Roland “Ron” Pandolphi, successor to Dr. Christopher “Kit” Greene. They claimed to be tracking UFO sightings to ascertain if misidentified black ops weapon testing was involved. In practice they were also playing psych games on members.

So intel psyops, and cointelpro contamination occurs covertly and, often, overtly not only in the script writing process but it infiltrates the background research data too.

Any show drawing upon ufology or conspiracy theory will be backloaded with it.

The challenge for both the writer and the viewer is to ascertain where that poison is.
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby JackRiddler » Tue May 22, 2012 3:16 pm

One factor to always add is the power of tropes. If a form already exists, and if it's met with success, it's going to be repeated over and over and over. It is extremely hard to break out of the accepted trope. Even new-seeming tropes will follow along the slope already established by everything prior.

Just talking now: The other day I saw a silly big-budget French thriller set all over the world and called "Largo Winch" that subtextually normalizes corporate power and corporate evil as the Facts of Life: far too big and established for all us little people to redefine. The world's outcomes are entirely out of our hands, fought among super-beings (here: super-moneyed beings) up in the privatized clouds and skyscraper penthouses. The only thing that can make the world better is having good, noble people at the top. They play the feudal-capitalist game, but "ethically" and "creatively," and they may help some of the more evil ones to reform.

Anyway, every plot point, every character, every element was pre-set by the story template, itself an ideological product, but so familiar as to seem natural. Except for the choices of snap-in story modules (what kind of sidekick shall we have? funny or dark?) nothing deviated from the predictable line. But the reason it's so familiar is because the formula works emotionally, so enough people always want to do it again. The protagonist is Harry Potter/Luke Skywalker; an orphan, of course. He is hidden away from peril on Tatooine/English Suburb (Croatia) and raised by wise and simple people (who will be burned by the evils, just like Harry's mom-pop and Luke's surrogates). He later learns His True Father (who in this case also plays the role of posthumous Obi Wan/Sirius Black/Morpheus), unlock the buried secrets of his life, initiate into ever-higher realms of power (more Jason Bourne/Kung Fu than magic) and assume his hero-leader throne -- with the help of a Han Solo and a C3PO, after many tests and battles with a Dragon-Vader and a final confrontation with the Big Bad. (In this case on the Witch template, as "revealed" at the end but of course telegraphed from the start.) There's even a Fortress of Solitude (here: a private island redoubt), a totemic battle-sword (here: a switchblade) and a ring of power (here: in the form of bearer bonds conferring ownership of a 30-billion dollar conglomerate).

Think of all those pulp books in various genres written on contract with 14 pre-set character roles going through the same 7 story stages provided by the publisher in a writer's guidebook, and at the end the public can't wait to buy the next one with the same recipe. Except now it's on Youtube.
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Tue May 22, 2012 3:22 pm

Good call -- "tropes" or cliches is a more tradecraft term than trying to horseshoe Autopoesis or mirror neurons into the discussion. Authors have always known this.
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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby peartreed » Tue May 22, 2012 4:06 pm

The “tropes” are often preordained by the episodic show’s “bible” or template for characters, personalities, relationships, background and roles. The show bible guides the writers to operate within the approved guidelines of the originator’s concepts and the established, formulaic format of unfolding story line or lines.

It was interesting to me that Mulder, David Duchovny’s character on, “The X-Files” was the “true believer” contrasted with Scully, Gillian Anderson’s role for the skeptical sidekick, when, in real life, David was much more the skeptic and Gillian the avid follower and believer in the UFO phenomena.

(Even my colleague William Davis as “Cancerman” was in real life an ardent anti-smoking crusader.)

But they combined in character as the proverbial protagonist pairing of “dynamic duo” stereotypes for the metaphorical unmasking of the enigmatic monster.

Admittedly, they had slightly more sexual tension than, say, Batman and Robin, but I understand even DC Comics might be about to experiment with even that.

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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby streeb » Tue May 22, 2012 4:25 pm

Actor Dean Haglund has been traveling around presenting his film The Truth Is Out There, and he had this to say about the Lone Gunmen pilot:

That Lone Gunmen pilot is pretty interesting. Does it come up a lot?

It does. Everybody’s curious about how it affected us personally. It affected the writers for sure. They’re the ones who called me. I actually didn’t put it together until they phoned in the afternoon. By that point I was so far removed from the shooting of it, I had to be reminded that there was a connection.

One of the writers called you on 9/11?

Yes, one of the writer’s did, yeah. He said, ‘Are you watching this?’ I went, ‘Yeah, why are you calling?’ And then it was, like, ‘Oh, right!’ It came to me at that point. How embarrassing is that?

Well, you’re a busy man, got a lot going on in your head.

That’s right! I am a busy man!

So how affected were they?

Well, they were, not mortified, but weirded out, for sure. Rarely do you think the thing that you’re imagining would actually manifest itself so close to reality. And then of course they started joking that they hope other things in the Lone Gunmen series don’t come true, like super-intelligent military chimps.

Has that come true?

So far I’ve not seen one. But they could be working on it.


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Re: Hollywood Scripting

Postby jingofever » Tue May 22, 2012 5:10 pm

Bruce Dazzling wrote:A quick review of the last several pages of this thread demonstrates that Hugh is in violation of the following board rule:

...

Since Hugh is a repeat offender, I'm exiling him for two weeks.

Most of the posters in this thread are just as guilty as he is. It takes two to rango, you know.

And where does two weeks come from? Is it completely arbitrary? eyeno, before banishment, was suspended for three days for making a bizarre and at least borderline anti-semitic post. Nordic was suspended for one week for 'insulting' Hugh Mantee Wins (but I'm not sure Nordic intended to insult). Now Hugh Manatee Wins is suspended for two weeks for, I suppose, initiating something we all participated in. I intentionally broke the 'no insults' rule when I called Hugh a crank and I have disrupted this thread almost as much as him but nothing has happened to me.

By the way, you really should have posted this in a seperate thread.
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