OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

[psynapz]

Instant DNA analysis (matched against what?)

His sister who died of brain cancer at Mass General about a year ago, matched "with 99.9% confidence".

[eyeno]

With the biggest news in a decade dominating the Internet, it didn't take long for rogue viruses, Trojans and other malware to mess with computers given the chance.

Web searches and links to a variety of stories — real and fake — about the death of Osama bin Laden are sprouting with all kinds of malicious software as cybercriminals look for a big payday tied to the appetite for news about the Al-Qaida leader's demise.

"The bad guys were quite fast and started to poison searches results in Google Images," said Favio Assolini, a Kaspersky Labs expert on the security software company's blog. "Some of the search results are now leading users to malicious pages."

As an example, Assolini shared a Google search page with the words "osama bin laden body" typed in the search box. "When clicking an image in the results page, the user will be redirected to one of the malicious domains," antivirus.cz.cc/fast-scan/ and pe-antivirus.cz.cc/fast-scan/, he said. Both are "offering" a copy of rogueware called "Best Antivirus 2011." And both can bring your computer down.

"When searching, even for images, be careful," Assolini warns.

http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20 ... -explosion

[eyeno]

and from fbook

"WARNING: There is a video circulating around Facebook of a BBC video of the killing of Osama Bin Laden, supposedly made by US troops. It IS a virus!!!!! Spread the news because it's circulating fast!!!!
Thanks for sharing Donna"


I've seen this supposed bbc video. Its out there. I tried to click on it and got a warning.

[Stephen Morgan]

[JackRiddler]

What makes it "so obviously a misstatement?"

Saying that a person was murdered isn't really analogous to falling into the rhyming alliteration trap of Osama/Obama.

Please. Watch it again from the beginning. She's talking about threats to her from a politician who "has had dealings" with an alleged AQ terrorist who beheaded English tourists. Then she says that this guy also "has had dealings" with Omar Sheikh, who "murdered" ...Osama Bin Ladin?! Of course this is a misstatement. It already makes no sense in the context of her speech. She's talking about how bin Ladin's crew is killing tourists and wants to kill her, and casually mentions that one of them "murdered" bin Ladin, as though everyone already knows that to be the case. How does this square as anything other than a misstake? Old Man Frost looks mildly confused, like he hasn't quite computed what she said, but continues with the usual rushed and automatic TV news interview format.

And now consider the full context: Bhutto was on the official US line as far as AQ and the "war on terror" went. Omar Saeed Sheikh, whom most everyone thinks was an ISI agent (except that Musharraf himself said he was MI6) is one of the best-known figures in the complex of AQ and 9/11 stories. Besides having a career as a hijacker of Indian planes, he was the person originally identified as the money-man for the alleged 9/11 hijackers. And guess what? Sheikh is accused of a murder, and has supposedly been in a Pakistani prison for almost 10 years awaiting execution for that murder. And the man he is accused of murdering was Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl. Knowing this, how could you believe Bhutto would get as far as "murdered " and not mean to say that? How could it ever make sense that Bhutto is telling you Omar Sheikh killed Bin Ladin in this fashion?!

I'm amazed that this video is still circulating as "evidence." If you want evidence that OBL was either dead long before yesterday, or being played by a series of actors, you can look at the alleged videos of him, instead.

There I go again. Playing erratist to "the movement." Although in this case I suspect you will agree with me, in the end.

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[Nordic]

To anyone thinking this will be an excuse to bring the troops home and scale back the wars: think again.

The whole reason for this announcement, or at least one of the Big Ones, is to justify the enormous expenditure that's been going on the last ten years.

Look! It worked! We need to keep spending this money or else we "let our guard down!"

Look at the timing. This has to be about money. Right now the economy is collapsing, the dollar is in free fall, nobody wants to buy treasuries but the Fed, which is puffing up the stock market but destroying the dollar. If they stop with the QE business, the stock market and commodities collapse. If they keep it going, the dollar collapses (and the collapse has already begun).

They're talking about cutting Medicare and Social Security and gutting the entire federal government in order to "get a handle" on this runaway debt bullshit.

The last thing they want to do is cut out any of this military security state spending (which is nothing but a massive form of corporate welfare).

So viola. Look at how we NEED all this technology, all this empire, to catch the bad guys! IT WORKS!

So there ya go.

In the meantime, still haven't seen a photo of Bin Laden. Which seems odd, because whenever they've gotten anyother "boogeymen" they immediately put a photo of their corpse on display, no matter how gruesome. Remember Saddam's sons? That was right out of Tombstone Arizona.

[JackRiddler]

My, how the world has changed since 9/11. In the old days it took months to gear up the machinery of mockery and denial:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/05/02/t ... k-thereof/

(probably: not worth clicking.)

[kenoma]

In the meantime, still haven't seen a photo of Bin Laden. Which seems odd, because whenever they've gotten anyother "boogeymen" they immediately put a photo of their corpse on display, no matter how gruesome. Remember Saddam's sons? That was right out of Tombstone Arizona.

It's in post-production. I'd guess we'll have something by US primetime. That's after midnight my time. Don't think I'll stay up.

Edit: and yes, Jack is right about that Bhutto footage. It's too casual.

[Canadian_watcher]

In this instance:
- Found after living for 5 years in a posh villa near Pakistani military installations
- No Pakistani involvement - really!
- Instant DNA analysis (matched against what?)
- Burial at sea (has had me laughing all day)
- The OBL "video" history as well as reported career
- The past history of stage-managed post-reality propaganda events a la Lynch, spider hole, etc.

These should be enough for the healthy skeptic to start.

I was just listening to local radio here in Canada and was surprised to hear the two DJs talking very openly and nonchalantly about it probably being a lie. They sounded young. There is hope!!

[Nordic]

My, how the world has changed since 9/11. In the old days it took months to gear up the machinery of mockery and denial:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/05/02/t ... k-thereof/

(probably: not worth clicking.)

Yeah, saw that. I just wrote to rawstory and told them I'm done with them. Wow.

[Bruce Dazzling]

What makes it "so obviously a misstatement?"

Saying that a person was murdered isn't really analogous to falling into the rhyming alliteration trap of Osama/Obama.

Please. Watch it again from the beginning. She's talking about threats to her from a politician who "has had dealings" with an alleged AQ terrorist who beheaded English tourists. Then she says that this guy also "has had dealings" with Omar Sheikh, who "murdered" ...Osama Bin Ladin?! Of course this is a misstatement. It already makes no sense in the context of her speech. She's talking about how bin Ladin's crew is killing tourists and wants to kill her, and casually mentions that one of them "murdered" bin Ladin, as though everyone already knows that to be the case. How does this square as anything other than a misstake? Old Man Frost looks mildly confused, like he hasn't quite computed what she said, but continues with the usual rushed and automatic TV news interview format.

And now consider the full context: Bhutto was on the official US line as far as AQ and the "war on terror" went. Omar Saeed Sheikh, whom most everyone thinks was an ISI agent (except that Musharraf himself said he was MI6) is one of the best-known figures in the complex of AQ and 9/11 stories. Besides having a career as a hijacker of Indian planes, he was the person originally identified as the money-man for the alleged 9/11 hijackers. And guess what? Sheikh is accused of a murder, and has supposedly been in a Pakistani prison for almost 10 years awaiting execution for that murder. And the man he is accused of murdering was Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl. Knowing this, how could you believe Bhutto would get as far as "murdered " and not mean to say that? How could it ever make sense that Bhutto is telling you Omar Sheikh killed Bin Ladin in this fashion?!

I'm amazed that this video is still circulating as "evidence." If you want evidence that OBL was either dead long before yesterday, or being played by a series of actors, you can look at the alleged videos of him, instead.

There I go again. Playing erratist to "the movement." Although in this case I suspect you will agree with me, in the end.

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Jack, you could be 100% correct, and yet, she said what she said, and Frost, very oddly, didn't ask her to clarify.

Omar Saeed Sheikh has been labeled a double agent (MI6, as you said) as well as a murderer, so it's not totally inconceivable that for reasons unbeknownst to pretty much anyone, he murdered Bin Laden before being jailed in 2002. I mean, terrorist/double agents probably do the damndest things sometimes.

But again, your assessment is probably correct.

What do you think she actually meant to say? (serious question)

[Brentos]

To anyone thinking this will be an excuse to bring the troops home and scale back the wars: think again.

The whole reason for this announcement, or at least one of the Big Ones, is to justify the enormous expenditure that's been going on the last ten years.

Look! It worked! We need to keep spending this money or else we "let our guard down!"

Look at the timing. This has to be about money. Right now the economy is collapsing, the dollar is in free fall, nobody wants to buy treasuries but the Fed, which is puffing up the stock market but destroying the dollar. If they stop with the QE business, the stock market and commodities collapse. If they keep it going, the dollar collapses (and the collapse has already begun).

They're talking about cutting Medicare and Social Security and gutting the entire federal government in order to "get a handle" on this runaway debt bullshit.

The last thing they want to do is cut out any of this military security state spending (which is nothing but a massive form of corporate welfare).
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Yep, its always been about power/money/business. As I'm sure you are aware, the system is dependent on yield, to pay off ever increasing debts, that ultimately cant be paid off. So in the meantime class warfare ensues while bigger fish eat on smaller fish's food (medicare/pensions etc...) to obtain yield.
Now that OBL is gone, I'm not going to be surprised if we get a reminder to remain vigilant.

[JackRiddler]

Jack, you could be 100% correct, and yet, she said what she said, and Frost, very oddly, didn't ask her to clarify.

Nothing very odd about it at all, given the format.

Omar Saeed Sheikh has been labeled a double agent (MI6, as you said) as well as a murderer, so it's not totally inconceivable that for reasons unbeknownst to pretty much anyone, he murdered Bin Laden before being jailed in 2002. I mean, terrorist/double agents probably do the damndest things sometimes.

So do Bhuttos, apparently, like reveal such a thing as a passing comment to Frost.

What do you think she actually meant to say? (serious question)

After talking about the beheading of the three tourists, she meant to say, Sheikh murdered (beheaded) Daniel Pearl. She was thinking about Bin Ladin as well, given the context, and said that instead. This is not even one of those things I "think," or would give odds on. It's a certainty.

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[8bitagent]

I work right next to the place that I refuse to refer to as "ground zero" and at the moment, it's an American Gladiator Goebbelsian clusterfuck carnival of chest-thumping idiocracy. All sponsored by Nike™, of course.

Sigh.

It's so often the games THEY play with language - semantic mutilating lords of distortion that THEY are - that earworm me in the worst way. The repeating of them, unquestioningly, like mantras for conjuring demons, has also struck me and caused me to strive for more perspicacious usage. Failing that I lean towards blunt. In addition to the obscene misnomer of "ground zero" I've always found the transmogrification of the date 9/11 into some kind of magic sound button something to actively resist. When referring to the events of that particular day, phrases like "when planes crashed into buildings" are much preferred to the far too spellbinding "on 9/11" ...

... by the way, your avatar is superfantastic. Are you an expat. canuck, a really cool amerikano or otherwise affiliated? p.s.(it goes without saying that these are, in and of themselves, 2 dimensional associations - i just want that shallow but giddy sensation Canadians get when they meet amerikans who like something 'we' did. )

Damn, eerie point. Its almost like "september the 11th", "planes into buildings", "nine eleven" are all magician/hypnotist trigger words.

"Is this Raymond?

Yes.

Raymond Shaw?

Yes.

Raymond...Prentice..Shaw? ....listen"


haha this guy is saying the release of the birth certificate, obama clowning trump at dinner and the OBL kill shows we should never again question Obama. geezus http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/05/02/f ... tml?hpt=T2

I work right next to the place that I refuse to refer to as "ground zero" and at the moment, it's an American Gladiator Goebbelsian clusterfuck carnival of chest-thumping idiocracy. All sponsored by Nike™, of course.

Sigh.

And sadly that scene is being replayed all over campuses and America as we speak.

Funny how victims families who have questions about 9/11 are never shown on tv or allowed to speak.

[8bitagent]

Again neither here nor there or anything. But Obama was just covered live about some kind of a Hawaiian Korean war ceremony and instead of "anthem" he pronounced it "ansem" and did not correct himself.

Ansem, Seeker of Darkness

"So, you have come this far, and still you understand nothing. Every light must fade, every heart return to darkness!"
—Ansem, Seeker of Darkness

Ansem, Seeker of Darkness serves as the main antagonist of Kingdom Hearts and the "Reverse/Rebirth" story in Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories. He is the Heartless of Xehanort, retaining the dark "guardian" which belonged to his original self. Ansem appears to have characteristics of both Emblem and Pureblood Heartless, and it is unclear exactly which category he falls under.

Just pointing out the immediate search of the phonetic meaning of the word "Ansem".

Carry on.

Reminds me of the yes we can = thank you satan reverse speach thingamaboobey.

Or Clinton's "that depends what IS IS"

Or Bush and his "cult of evil" did 9/11 to thrive off the tears and misery
or his "order out of chaos" faus paux in Iraq

Or Bush Sr's "thousand points of light"