Former LAPD Officer's Manifesto & Shooting

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Re: Former LAPD Officer's Manifesto & Shooting

Postby Nordic » Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:14 am

It's truly amazing how the media basically conspired with the cops to paint Dorner as a disgruntled and guilty ex-worker, an angry guy who just went nuts. And literally conspired to help the cops kill him.

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politi ... paging=off


How Law Enforcement and Media Covered Up the Plan to Burn Christopher Dorner Alive

HIghly disturbing behavior by newspaper and Live TV sources in complying with the San Bernardino Sheriffs.
February 13, 2013 |




At approximately 7 PM ET, I listened through a police scanner as San Bernardino Sheriffs gave the order to burn down the cabin where suspected murderer Christopher Dorner was allegedly hiding. Deputies were maneuvering a remote controlled demolition vehicle to the base of the cabin, using it to tear down the walls of the cabin where Dorner was hiding, and peering inside.

In an initial dispatch, a deputy reported seeing “blood spatter” inside the cabins. Dorner, who had just engaged in a firefight with deputies that killed one officer and wounded another, may have been wounded in the exchange. There was no sign of his presence, let alone his resistance, according to police dispatches.

It was then that the deputies decided to burn the cabin down.

“We’re gonna go ahead with the plan with the burner,” one sheriff’s deputy told another. “Like we talked about.” Minutes later, another deputy’s voice crackled across the radio: “The burner’s deployed and we have a fire.”

Next, a sheriff reported a “single shot” heard from inside the house. This was before the fire had penetrated deeply into the cabin’s interior, and may have signaled Dorner’s suicide. At that point, an experienced ex-cop like him would have known he was finished.

Over the course of the next hour, I listened as the sheriffs carefully managed the fire, ensuring that it burned the cabin thoroughly. Dorner, a former member of the LAPD who had accused his ex-colleagues of abuse and racism in a lengthy, detailed manifesto, was inside. The cops seemed to have little interest in taking him alive.

“Burn that fucking house down!” shouted a deputy through a scanner transmission inadvertently broadcast on the Los Angeles local news channel, KCAL 9. “Fucking burn this motherfucker!” another cop could be heard exclaiming.

While live ammo exploded inside the cabin, the deputies pondered whether the basement would burn as well – they wanted to know if its ceiling was made of wood or concrete. They assumed Dorner was hiding there, and apparently wanted to ensure that he would be burned to a crisp. “Because the fire is contained, I’m gonna let that heat burn through the basement,” a deputy declared.

SWAT teams airlifted to the location were told to be ready in case Dorner did manage to escape. “Guys be ready on the number four side [the front of the cabin],” a deputy declared. “He might come out the back.”

Just after 7 PM (4 PM PT), right when the orders were given to deploy the “burners,” the San Bernardino Country Sheriff’s Department Public Information Officer Cindy Bachman hastily gathered reporters for an impromptu press conference. Claiming to know nothing new, she told reporters that she had no idea why the cabin was on fire, or who started the fire. Reporters badgered Bachman for information, but she had none, raising the question of why the presser was convened when it was.

Around the same time, the San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department requested that all reporters and media organizations stop tweeting about the ongoing standoff with Dorner, claiming their journalism was “hindering officer safety.” As the cabin sheltering Dorner burned, the local CBS affiliate was reportedly told by law enforcement to zoom its helicopter camera out to avoid showing the actions of sheriff’s deputies. By all accounts, the media acceded to police pressure for self-censorship.

On Twitter, the Riverside Press Enterprise, a leading local newspaper, announced on Twitter, “Law enforcement asked media to stop tweeting about the#Dorner case, fearing officer safety. We are complying.” The paper’s editors added, “We are going to tweet broad, non-tactical details, as per the San Bernardino DA's request.”

“Per [San Bernardino Country Sheriff’s Department] request,” tweeted the local CBS affiliate, KCBS, “we are complying and will not tweet updates on #Dorner search.”

At the time that I am writing this, some online media outlets are beginning to entertain the possibility that San Bernardino County Sheriff’s deliberately set the fire that killed Dorner – a fact that I reported on Twitter as soon the sheriff’s department order came down. If there is any doubt about the authenticity of the YouTube clip containing audio of the sheriff deputies’ orders to burn the cabin down, I can verify that it is the real thing. I was listening to the same transmissions when they first blared across the police scanners.

In the hours after the standoff, however, the police cover-up remained unchallenged thanks largely to local media complicity. An initialLos Angeles Times report recounted the incident in a passive voice, claiming “flames began to spread through the structure, and gunshots, probably set off by the fire, were heard.” Similarly, LA’s ABC affiliate, KABC, quoted Bachman’s vague comment about “that cabin that caught fire,” failing to explore why it was aflame or who torched it.

Today, the Los Angeles Times reported claims by anonymous “law enforcement sources” that the sheriffs used “incendiary tear gas” to flush Dorner out of the cabin. The sources claimed the deputies who had besieged the cabin were under a “constant barrage of gunfire” and that, “There weren’t a lot of options.”

This is almost certainly a lie. The only mention by a deputy at the scene of a gunshot from inside the cabin was the “single shot” that occurred as soon as the “burners,” or incendiary teargas munitions, were deployed. After that point, deputies made constant mention of ammunition exploding inside the cabin as a result of the intense heat of the fire they set, but said nothing about any shots fired at them.

If there were a “constant barrage of gunfire,” it would have been the main source of concern among the police at the scene. Instead, they were preoccupied with ensuring that the fire burned the cabin completely without spreading into the surrounding woods.

There is a grand tradition of law enforcement using incendiary devices to assault besieged suspects, and of covering up their use. One of the most famous examples of this tactic, and its horrible consequences, was the Philadelphia Police Department’s bombing of the compound of the radical black nationalist cult, M.O.V.E., dropping C-4 explosives by helicopter on the house, killing 11 members of the group, including 5 children, and destroying 65 homes in the West Philadelphia neighborhood.

It was not until the 51-day FBI siege of the Waco, Texas compound of the messianic Branch Davidian cult that “burners,” or incendiary 40mm military grade cartridges, were used to burn a structure down. Six years after claiming that the Branch Davidians deliberately burned their own compound down, the FBI finally admitted that it used incendiary rounds, but insisted that none of them contributed to the fire that consumed the compound.

The “burners,” or pyrotechnic rounds the San Bernardino County Sheriffs used to torch Dorner’s cabin, are likely similar, and perhaps more powerful, than those employed by the FBI in Waco. Through the five-year-old “Department of Defense Excess Property Program,” the US military has provided police departments across the country with billions of dollars worth of military equipment, from amphibious tanks to AR-15 assault rifles, allowing the military to circumvent Posse Comitatus regulations by outsourcing their firepower to local cops.

“Burners,” or military grade incendiary grenades, are very likely among the items passed down from the US army to local police outfits like the San Bernardino Sheriff’s Department.The “burner” of choice for the modern American soldier is the AN-M14 TH3. It is a hand held grenade comprised of a thermite mixture that rapidly converts to molten iron when it is thrown, burning at a temperature of 4000 degrees Fahrenheit, hot enough to burn through a half inch steel plate or bring an engine block to a boil. It can also produce enough heat to set off unloaded ammunition, which would explain why the ammo inside Dorner’s hideout was popping.

If the San Bernardino Sheriffs employed the AN-M14 TH3 or something like it against Dorner – and it appears they did – they have good reason to attempt to cover their actions up. Without even a token attempt to establish communication with the suspect, who was, to be sure, a wanted killer hell-bent on murdering cops, they attacked him with what was likely a military grade weapon designed to destroy fortified structures. By burning Dorner alive, then misleading and deceiving the public about the operation, the sheriffs may have validated the rogue ex-cop’s sharpest indictments of the culture of American law enforcement.

Yet no element in the Dorner drama was more disturbing than the performance of mainstream media. At every point, major news outlets complied with law enforcement calls for self-censorship, and still demonstrate little interest in determining how and why a lethal fire started on a snow-covered mountain in the dead of winter. As a quintessentially American tragedy reaches its denouement, the truth remains buried beneath a smoldering pile of ashes.
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Re: Former LAPD Officer's Manifesto & Shooting

Postby jlaw172364 » Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:07 am

@Nordic

I don't think the police et al would like it if the media portrayed Dorner as anything other than a deranged psycho. I think it's also been firmly established, at least on this site, that the corporate media, in its role as part of the control apparatus, lies about everything all the time.
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Re: Former LAPD Officer's Manifesto & Shooting

Postby lupercal » Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:15 am

I find it hard to believe that a summary execution-by-burning of an African-American police officer on live TV, whether real or staged, simultaneous with Obama's first second-term SOU speech, important on many levels not the least being it marked a major triumph, was coincidental. Also curious is that responsibility for the execution fell at least nominally to officials of San Bernardino, the city of which is currently flat broke and bankrupt, but possibly less so after this stunt.
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Re: Former LAPD Officer's Manifesto & Shooting

Postby 8bitagent » Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:29 am

lupercal wrote:I find it hard to believe that a summary execution-by-burning of an African-American police officer on live TV, whether real or staged, simultaneous with Obama's first second-term SOU speech, important on many levels not the least being it marked a major triumph, was coincidental. Also curious is that responsibility for the execution fell at least nominally to officials of San Bernardino, the city of which is currently flat broke and bankrupt, but possibly less so after this stunt.


Thank you. Ya don't have to have your They Live glasses to see how fitting and grotesque it all is. Even if it's just a couple of syncs, it's just a rather strange spectacle.
Regardless of the crimes or danger by way of Dorner, the bloodthirsty zeal of the cops to do what they did ABSOLUTELY wreaks of Klan era shit. A black man is burned
alive by bloodthirsty vigilante cops just as Obama begins his speech. Again, I emphasize sync, as I won't say it's planned. Just that the news cycle has gotten
stranger and stranger.
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Re: Former LAPD Officer's Manifesto & Shooting

Postby crikkett » Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:55 am

barracuda wrote:Maybe he was a one-man army, but he was a one-man army who couldn't drive very good in snow, couldn't hide very well, couldn't keep his hostages from escaping, couldn't pilot a boat, dropped his ID at the scene of two of his crimes, and bought scuba gear to go into the mountains.

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Re: Former LAPD Officer's Manifesto & Shooting

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:37 pm

barracuda wrote:I'm actually stoking the fire on this train.

An investigator working the case said that a wallet and identification cards belonging to Dorner were recovered last week at the San Ysidro Port of Entry, according to a federal complaint filed Thursday in Santa Ana.

That contradicts with what authorities said on Thursday, when it was reported that a shuttle bus driver turned over Dorner’s wallet, LAPD police badge and photo ID to San Diego police after a passer-by found them near Lindbergh Field.

San Diego Police Chief Bill Lansdowne said Tuesday that the items were found in the middle of Pacific Highway and Laurel Street.

Several items of Dorner’s police gear were also found early last week behind National City police headquarters.


http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/feb ... -big-bear/


That's a good fire to stoke. So, just to get the timeline straight, Dorner kills 2, flees to San Diego, is named as a suspect, fails to steal boat, leaves wallet with ID at San Ysidro Port of Entry, shoots cop in Corona and Riverside, gets holed up in Big Bear where he is incinerated, but not his second wallet with California drivers license.

BTW, I'm piecing this timeline together with the help of CNN, who claims he actually did serve in Iraq from 2006-2007:

2006-2007: In Iraq with the Navy

The Navy recalled Dorner to active duty, and he served a 2006-2007 stint in Iraq guarding oil platforms.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/07/us/lapd-attacks-timeline


So which is correct, Bahrain or Iraq? I believe I recall reading he received an Iraq Campaign Medal. Did he get that for "guarding oil platforms"?
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Re: Former LAPD Officer's Manifesto & Shooting

Postby Canadian_watcher » Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:07 pm

barracuda wrote:

The whole crafty-fox-leaving-a-crafty-fox-false-trail thing


you do have a way with words. I lol'd.
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Re: Former LAPD Officer's Manifesto & Shooting

Postby barracuda » Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:17 pm

stillrobertpaulsen wrote:So which is correct, Bahrain or Iraq? I believe I recall reading he received an Iraq Campaign Medal. Did he get that for "guarding oil platforms"?


The Iraq Campaign Medal...

...was awarded to any member of the U.S. military who performed duty within the borders of Iraq (or its territorial waters) for a period of thirty consecutive days or sixty non-consecutive days


So if he served off of Kuwait, as is being reported, he may have qualified.
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Re: Former LAPD Officer's Manifesto & Shooting

Postby justdrew » Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:30 pm

seriously... I've yet to see any evidence he killed anyone, except maybe the one at the end, but you know, those cops could have been hit by friendly fire.




as for the facebook thing... anyone well familiar with that site? Wouldn't you have to chose to make "status update posts" public in order for them to go out to sites like the one that had it that google cached?

Who requested facebook to close the account? when did it actually vanish? I assume only facebook could answer and I doubt they will.
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Re: Former LAPD Officer's Manifesto & Shooting

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:55 pm

The Blatent Murder of Christopher Dorner
Max Blumenthal on LAPD and ex-LAPD killers

Max Blumenthal, author of the upcoming book Goliath: Life and Loathing in Greater Israel, discusses his article “How Law Enforcement and Media Covered Up the Plan to Burn Christopher Dorner Alive;” the online police scanner recordings that prove the cops (using “burners”) were intent on extrajudicial assassination, not capture and arrest; the media’s failure to provide coverage and ask important questions; and how Dorner exposed the deep animosity many Americans feel toward cops.
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Re: Former LAPD Officer's Manifesto & Shooting

Postby a11235813 » Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:18 pm

Los Angeles On High Alert As LAPD Back On Regular Duty

LOS ANGELES—Los Angeles residents are reportedly on edge today following reports that hundreds of armed and extremely dangerous Los Angeles Police Department officers are resuming regular patrolling duties after the conclusion of Tuesday’s manhunt for rogue ex-cop Christopher Dorner. “I mean, just knowing they’re out there is terrifying—how can I feel safe when these maniacs are on the loose in my neighborhood?” said a visibly rattled Ashley Stillson, 38, who explained that she strictly observed the city’s advisory to avoid the historically violent, unpredictable predators by going out in groups and avoiding the streets entirely after nightfall. “These guys are volatile and, in many cases, mentally unstable. Something needs to be done about them because I fear for my family knowing these sick people are still at large.” At press time, sources reported the tense mood in L.A. had brightened considerably after news of a serial rapist diverted numerous LAPD officers to a sprawling manhunt in nearby San Bernardino.
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Re: Former LAPD Officer's Manifesto & Shooting

Postby conniption » Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:54 pm

The Construction of Ex-Cop Chris Dorner - Neil Sanders


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Re: Former LAPD Officer's Manifesto & Shooting

Postby Canadian_watcher » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:03 am

re the video above. Quite frankly, that is how I felt (feel?) about the Luka Magnotta thing in Canada. it was SSSSSSSSOOOOOOO Hollywood and my thought was that none - absolutely NONE of it - was real and it was an exercise to use the internet as a control / behavioural science tool to better understand and manipulate the masses.
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Re: Former LAPD Officer's Manifesto & Shooting

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:10 pm

While all these events were unfolding (seems like years ago now), I kept wondering, "What does Mike Ruppert think of all this?" With his whole colorful history with the LAPD and being forced to quit in 1978, I was hoping he would weigh in with some insight on the Chris Dorner story. While he definitely opposed the killings Dorner committed, he understands him, believes the LAPD did Dorner wrong.



The whole interview is great, but if you want to skip to the Dorner info, click at 36:17.
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Re: Former LAPD Officer's Manifesto & Shooting

Postby Simulist » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:14 pm

stillrobertpaulsen wrote:While all these events were unfolding (seems like years ago now), I kept wondering, "What does Mike Ruppert think of all this?" With his whole colorful history with the LAPD and being forced to quit in 1978, I was hoping he would weigh in with some insight on the Chris Dorner story. While he definitely opposed the killings Dorner committed, he understands him, believes the LAPD did Dorner wrong.



The whole interview is great, but if you want to skip to the Dorner info, click at 36:17.

Thanks for that, StillRobertPaulsen. A hell of a good interview (beginning at 36:17; I'd like to see the rest later), confirming many of my suspicions concerning this case.
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