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Postby 82_28 » Mon Nov 16, 2015 5:13 pm

Just to echo what SLAD linked to. Chaos was what was planned. Chaos they got. As Nordic said above, who benefits? This shit doesn't benefit anybody but those who planned and pulled this off for occluded reasons. I am inclined to believe patsies at best and agents in reality. But what was the impetus, the cause, the reason, the project these people were working on? Someone had to say "you know I really don't give a fuck" what happens to innocents. It happens time and again of course in the Middle East. They show us an entire motherfucking neighborhood get blowed up real good and say they got one fucking guy and it was a success. They don't fucking know if they got him. But they can declare it. Done and done. This was meant to be more "personal" as it were in a form of social engineering. I also find it interesting that all the media outlets have to bring up "this is the greatest attack on Paris since WWII" and etc. Like I said upthread, nobody would have given a fuck if this happened in the Freedom Fries daze. The fucking idiots would have said "good." Now all the motherfucking NFL stadiums and shit are flying French flags while they "salute" the "service" of the US military people they trot out for some insipid ceremony.

No, seriously (and I have friends that were duped by the military), fuck the motherfucking militaries everywhere. Let's be done with this at last.
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Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Mon Nov 16, 2015 5:23 pm

Wombaticus Rex » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:25 am wrote:
MacCruiskeen » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:21 am wrote:As if the whole depraved murderous spectacle in Paris weren't already depressing enough, it's additionally depressing to see this nonsense meeting with so little resistance on this board -- and indeed with a depressing amount of apparent approval:

Wombaticus Rex » Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:20 pm wrote:
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Now, granted, I've never read about this "Gladio" thing and I probably shouldn't comment, but I shall henceforth.


This is an incredible admission.


Yeah.

It was also a joke, bud. I would have hoped a pretty obvious one.

Hope is like that.


Okay. I get that joke. Pretty good one too.

But what about the "omnipotence" of NATO? The "racist" people who dare posit that suicide bombers might actually be pawns in a larger game are trying to "deny the free moral agency of generations of human beings." Are those jokes too? Because right now, they just seem like strawmen you erected.

Please clarify, because normally I get what you're trying to say, but right now it seems I'm either completely missing your point, or I just completely disagree.

And just to clarify my own POV to you: having the money, power and ability to compartmentalize and carry out an intelligence operation does not make one omnipotent. Granted, I've never read about this "Bay of Pigs" thing and probably shouldn't comment. :wink:
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Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Postby NeonLX » Mon Nov 16, 2015 5:55 pm

What 82_28 said.

OK, this is just me being cynical, but Saturday afternoon, I was strolling around downtown. There were two young Marines in full dress uniforms walking about 100 feet from me. As these two went past the children's museum downtown, a bunch of kids from inside came running out onto the sidewalk and exclaimed, "Look look--it's soldiers!!". This brought more kids out of the museum. I could see parents whispering into the ears of some of the kids, who then yelled "thank you for keeping us safe" to the dress uniform dudes.

Just another one of those happenings that struck me as odd. Most happenings do, I guess.

But again, it's just me being cynical.
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:12 pm

Nohing "cynical " about it, NeonLX. On the contrary. Here's a short post by former Special Forces Sergeant Stan Goff describing his feelings during Veterans' Day at his local church this year:

http://chasinjesus.blogspot.de/2015/11/ ... .html#more

This worship of soldiers is not just childish, it's sick.
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Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:19 pm

82_28 » Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:13 pm wrote:I also find it interesting that all the media outlets have to bring up "this is the greatest attack on Paris since WWII" and etc. Like I said upthread, nobody would have given a fuck if this happened in the Freedom Fries daze. The fucking idiots would have said "good." Now all the motherfucking NFL stadiums and shit are flying French flags while they "salute" the "service" of the US military people they trot out for some insipid ceremony.


Absolutely right. I tried going on Facebook earlier and was asked to superimpose a French flag over my picture to show solidarity. Funny, I don't recall being asked to superimpose the flag of India over my profile pic in 2008 when 164 were killed in Mumbai. Or, as 8bit pointed out upthread, asked to put the flag of Lebanon on my face when 43 human beings were killed in Beirut just the day before the Friday the 13th Paris attacks. I guess all "terror attacks" are not created equal.
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Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Postby 82_28 » Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:49 pm

NeonLX » Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:55 pm wrote:What 82_28 said.

OK, this is just me being cynical, but Saturday afternoon, I was strolling around downtown. There were two young Marines in full dress uniforms walking about 100 feet from me. As these two went past the children's museum downtown, a bunch of kids from inside came running out onto the sidewalk and exclaimed, "Look look--it's soldiers!!". This brought more kids out of the museum. I could see parents whispering into the ears of some of the kids, who then yelled "thank you for keeping us safe" to the dress uniform dudes.

Just another one of those happenings that struck me as odd. Most happenings do, I guess.

But again, it's just me being cynical.


Oh I know. I was down at the store and some soldier was in there at the check-out line and in his fancy camo and I said jokingly something -- I don't remember -- but he definitely didn't get it -- I did give him a thumbs up. At my old bar Army people used to come in for lunch in the shit they wear in order to be officially a warrior and I would say to them every time in fact "uh oh we're getting invaded!". Nobody ever laughed because I think with those uniforms people take their "duty" and "service" seriously. I take it seriously but obviously not on that wing of things. They were always nice and I liked the group. But. . .
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Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:03 pm

stefano » Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:27 pm wrote:
[Y]ou could think of other explanations for this (although I'm not sure what your implication is - that it was crackers and that they later told us it was bombs?).


Not crackers, obviously. But also not obviously suicide-bombers detonating their bomb-belts. Some kind of very loud explosions, yes, obviously.

The point I'm making is that real suicide-bombers would presumably have no objection to a) blowing themselves to bits, and b) also killing as many innocent bystanders as possible -- that is their raison d' [pas plus]etre, after all. Whereas, say, Gladio employees would want to enjoy their salary, their bonus, and their well-earned post-match beer champagne (not to mention their pension). So I'm looking for actual witnesses of actual men -- and there were allegedly at least three such men -- actually blowing themselves up.

To clarify: it's the alleged suicide bombings outside the Stade de France I'm talking about. (I am certainly not denying or even slightly doubting that over a hundred people were massacred in the concert hall and the cafés.) Le Monde only mentions one such "witness" at the stadium, and he's a medic who turned up after the explosion-of-whatever-it-was:

Christophe Prudhomme, médecin urgentiste au SMU 93, était de garde au Stade de France. Il fait partie des premières équipes arrivées sur place après la première explosion. Au total, il y en a eu trois. Quatre personnes sont mortes dont les trois terroristes.

http://www.lemonde.fr/attaques-a-paris/ ... 09495.html
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He also says: three explosions in total, killing four people of whom three were terrorists. That's piss-poor suicide-bombing, any way you look at it. But M. Prudhomme does not claim that he saw those terrorists actually doing it. So, he's not in fact a witness. Nor is anyone else, so far, as far as I can see.*

These three bizarrely ineffective (almost wholly undamaging!) "Stade de France explosions" were the highly dramatic invisible opening salvo and thus performed many functions. Millions of French and German people heard them live on TV. Tens of thousands of Parisians (and Germans) were trapped in the stadium for hours. Hollande himself was a highly-visible "potential target" there. Makes the whole thing undeniable, right? And hundreds if not thousands of honest cops will have been rushing there, or already tied up there, in the north of the city, while the real massacres went ahead remarkably effectively, just a little later, elsewhere in Paris.

"Kamikaze terrorists"? If they'd been real, and serious, all they needed to do was shoot their way in -- and risk being shot dead by armed cops and security guards (including the fucking French Secret Service) before they got all the way into the stadium. And god knows they weren't shy about shooting people elsewhere, i.e. in a concert hall and a bunch of cafes, where no such real risks were involved.

*On Edit: Stefano, I'm having trouble following the black man in that TV interview. (My spoken French has gone to shit.) He's describing something exploding in a brasserie near the stadium before the game, is that right? Does he actually claim he saw a suicide bomber actually blow himself up? I think not. But please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:36 pm

The NY Times says "chief architect", I say "chief patsy." But hey, it's all hypothesis at this point in time.

Paris Attacks Plotted by Belgian Who Fought for ISIS, French Officials Say

By KIMIKO DE FREYTAS-TAMURA, AURELIEN BREEDEN and KATRIN BENNHOLD NOV. 16, 2015

BRUSSELS — The hunt for those responsible for the Paris terrorist attacks escalated on Monday as French officials identified a 27-year-old Belgian who fought for the Islamic State in Syria as the chief architect of the assaults and the police in France and Belgium conducted extensive raids seeking other suspects.

Three days after the attacks, which killed 129 people, French and Belgian security services were focused on the role of the Belgian, Abdelhamid Abaaoud, who is among the most prominent Islamic State fighters to have come out of Belgium and has been linked to a series of previous terrorist plots.

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Abdelhamid Abaaoud, a 27-year-old Belgian man who has fought with the Islamic State in Syria. Credit Militant Website, via Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

A French official briefed on the investigation, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss operational details, said Mr. Abaaoud had mentioned plans to attack “a concert hall” to a French citizen who returned from Syria.

Mr. Abaaoud, this official said, had also been in contact with Ismaël Omar Mostefaï, one of the Paris attackers. Mr. Abaaoud also knew another attacker, Ibrahim Abdeslam; they were tried together in 2010 in Belgium for a minor offense.

President François Hollande of France, addressing a rare joint session of Parliament in Versailles, urged lawmakers to extend for three months the state of emergency he declared after the attacks on Friday night. That designation allows the government to strip the citizenship of French natives who are convicted of terrorism and hold a second passport.

Declaring that “France is at war,” he said the attacks had been “planned in Syria, organized in Belgium, perpetrated on our soil with French complicity.”

He described Syria as “the biggest factory of terrorists the world has ever known,” and said France would continue the airstrikes it launched on Sunday night against Islamic State strongholds in Syria.

The French authorities said on Monday that they had conducted 168 raids across the country in an effort to root out possible terrorist threats. The raids extended from the Paris region to the major cities of Lille, Lyon, Marseille and Toulouse, they said. They also said they had arrested 23 people and detained 104 others under house arrest.

But a Frenchman believed to be involved in the Paris attacks, Salah Abdeslam, 26, a brother of Ibrahim Abdeslam, remained at large, eluding a series of raids conducted by the authorities in Molenbeek, the working-class Brussels neighborhood where the brothers lived.

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Salah Abdeslam. Credit French Police, via Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

A third brother, Mohamed, and four other men who had been detained in Belgium were released on Monday. At a news conference in Brussels, Mohamed said he did not know Salah’s whereabouts and added, “My parents are under shock and have not yet grasped what has happened.”

The alleged architect of the plot, Mr. Abaaoud, who traveled to Syria last year and even persuaded his 13-year-old brother to join him there, is from the same neighborhood, Molenbeek, as the Abdeslam brothers.

Mr. Abaaoud was already a suspect, according to officials and local news reports, in a failed terrorist plot in Belgium in January and an attempt in August to gun down passengers on a high-speed train to Paris from Brussels. The official said the authorities feared he might be in Europe.

At noon, France observed a moment of silence in honor of the victims of the attack, which killed 129 and wounded about 350 others. The Métro and cars stopped and crowds gathered at a makeshift memorial at the Place de la République and at the Eiffel Tower. Mr. Hollande stood with students at the Sorbonne. Many recited the national anthem, “La Marseillaise,” after the moment passed. In other cities — Delhi, Doha and Dublin — crowds gathered at French embassies to pay their respect.

As France observed its second of three days of national mourning, the authorities in both France and Belgium raced to track down suspects and chase leads.

At one house in the Rhône department in the southeast, around Lyon, the police found a Kalashnikov assault rifle, three automatic pistols, ammunition and bulletproof vests. Officers then obtained a warrant to search the home of the parents of a man who lived in the house, where they found several automatic pistols, ammunition, police armbands, military clothing and a rocket launcher.

Prime Minister Manuel Valls and Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve promised to keep up the search.

“We are using all the possibilities given to us by the state of emergency, that is to say administrative raids, 24 hours a day,” Mr. Valls said, vowing to keep intense pressure on “radical Islamism, Salafist groups, all those who preach hatred of the Republic.”

The authorities also confirmed on Monday that one of the attackers had entered Europe through Greece on a Syrian passport last month, posing as a migrant.

The man was identified on his passport — found at the soccer stadium north of Paris where he blew himself up on Friday night — as Ahmad al-Mohammad, 25, a native of Idlib, Syria. The holder of the passport passed through the Greek island of Leros on Oct. 3 and the Serbian border town of Presovo on Oct. 7, according to Greek and Serbian officials. It remained unclear if the passport was authentic.

All told, at least four French citizens were among the seven attackers. Ibrahim Abdeslam; Mr. Mostefaï, who met with the suspected planner of the attacks; and two men identified on Monday as Samy Amimour, 28, a Paris native who lived in the suburb of Drancy, and Bilal Hadfi, 20, who lived in Brussels.

Mr. Amimour was known to the French authorities, having been charged in October 2012 with terrorist conspiracy, according to the authorities. He was placed under judicial supervision but violated the terms of that supervision in the fall of 2013, prompting the authorities to put out an international arrest warrant.

Last December, the French newspaper Le Monde had interviewed Mr. Amimour’s father — it did not identify him by name at the time — who had gone to Syria to try to bring back his son. Three members of the Amimour family were detained on Monday.

The Turkish government confirmed on Monday that Mr. Mostefaï, 29, had entered Turkey in 2013 but said “there is no record of him leaving the country.”

A senior Turkish official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said the government flagged Mr. Mostefaï twice — in December 2014 and again in June of this year — but that “we have, however, not heard back from France on the matter.” He added, “It was only after the Paris attacks that the Turkish authorities received an information request about Ismaël Omar Mostefaï from France.”

The official added that “this is not a time to play the blame game” but added that governments needed to do better at sharing intelligence to prevent terrorism.

The United States has provided logistical support for the French airstrikes in Syria, but President Obama on Monday again ruled out a ground intervention. “Let’s assume that we were to send 50,000 troops into Syria,” he said at a gathering of leaders of the Group of 20 industrial and emerging-market economies in Antalya, Turkey. “What happens when there’s a terrorist attack generated from Yemen? Do we then send troops into there? Or Libya, perhaps?”

Elsewhere in Europe, the authorities tightened security. Britain on Monday announced that it would pay for an additional 1,900 intelligence officers, and review aviation security, as part of its response to the attacks.

The home secretary, Theresa May, said there would be tighter surveillance of those arriving in Britain and that border guards were making targeted checks of passengers and vehicles leaving for France.

Prime Minister David Cameron, who like Mr. Obama attended the Group of 20 meeting, said he would consider speeding up the legislative timetable for a proposed law to govern electronic surveillance by the intelligence agencies, though he added that it was important to bring Parliament and public support with him.

In Washington, John O. Brennan, the director of the Central Intelligence Agency, said on Monday that both the Paris attacks and the crash of a Russian jet over the Sinai Peninsula bore the “hallmarks” of the Islamic State.

Speaking at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, Mr. Brennan called the group an “association of murderous sociopaths” that is “not going to content itself with violence inside the Syrian and Iraqi borders.”

Wading into the debate over surveillance, privacy and encryption, Mr. Brennan said he hoped the Paris attacks would be a “wake-up call,” adding “hand-wringing” had weakened the ability of Western intelligence services to prevent attacks.


A few observations:

1. President Hollande wants a three month "state of emergency"? He'll get that, and more.

2. That picture of Mr. Abaaoud immediately made me think of what Sasha Baron-Cohen would look like as a fresh ISIS recruit.

3. Mr. Brennan, you play your part too predictably.
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Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Postby Lord Balto » Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:38 pm

seemslikeadream » Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:50 pm wrote::P



AlicetheKurious » Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:04 pm wrote:I just saw this video, and listened in shock as the ring of truth (for once!) could be heard on teevee... for 10 whole minutes.



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Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:05 pm

stillrobertpaulsen » Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:23 pm wrote:Are those jokes too? Because right now, they just seem like strawmen you erected.


Yeah. I wish.

divideandconquer » Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:24 pm wrote:I do deny the "free moral agency of generations of human beings" on the world stage. At this level, it is and always has been--at least the last few thousand years--orchestrated by mostly white educated puppet masters.

And of course Arabs can coordinate successful terror attacks...however, I don't think they're so stupid that they would continue to coordinate terror attacks guaranteed to bring Western bombs on their heads and that continues to increase the wealth and power of their enemy. In other words, they do not lack intelligence, they lack the psychopathic evil necessary, the power, the wealth, and the resources to pull off terrorist attacks that actually contribute to their agenda.

It think it's much more racist to think that Muslim leadership is behind acts of terror that only accomplishes the goals of its western enemies by demonizing themselves as a prerequisite for never ending Western meddling in the Middle East and elsewhere


That said, a lot of the impetus for my reactionary riff there was stuff I was seeing elsewhere online -- the kind of "Youtube Forensics" inducing eyerolls elsewhere in this thread. Or glib shit like this:

temp-monitor » Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:51 pm wrote:


http://operation-gladio.net/operation-gladio

Wombaticus Rex » Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:43 pm wrote:
divideandconquer » Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:38 pm wrote:P.S. Does anyone think the Muslim people--no matter how angry they might be-- are so stupid that they devise attacks that deliberately brings the world down on top of them?


Yes, in fact, I do. Absolutely.


http://operation-gladio.net/operation-gladio


That said, man, you should really read up on the Bay of Pigs. Also look into "The Dulles Brothers."
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Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Postby Lord Balto » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:24 pm

backtoiam » Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:54 pm wrote:
DrEvil » Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:51 pm wrote:^^That has to be some of the dumbest shit I've seen in a while.

Youtube forensics ftw! :wallhead:



Its not youtube forensics, sir, it is camera footage.


The footage isn't "YouTube forensics." The "interpretaion" is.
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Postby IanEye » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:28 pm

Wombaticus Rex » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:05 pm wrote:
stillrobertpaulsen » Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:23 pm wrote:Are those jokes too? Because right now, they just seem like strawmen you erected.


Yeah. I wish.



Did you know that if you scramble the phrase, "Eagles of Death Metal" it says metal eagles of death?
This is an obvious keyword memetic something or other.
Probably to do with drones






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Postby JackRiddler » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:33 pm

Some interesting posts on the Stade de France events, MacC. (How the hell are you?) By which I mean, interesting. I don't know.

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Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Postby Byrne » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:38 pm

I saw a post on a forum which mentioned that the German Football team were evacuated from their hotel due to a 'bomb scare' prior to any of the other incidents. Searched & found this:
Paris attacks: Germany football team's hotel evacuated for bomb scare before attack

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Police investigate an anonymous tip-off of a bomb scare at the German football team's hotel the Molitor.
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Germany's football team were evacuated from their hotel owing to a bomb scare hours before the Paris attacks broke out during their international friendly against France.

Three explosions rung out during the match at Stade de France on Friday (NZT Saturday), with shootings in nearby streets and across Paris breaking out soon after. Over 140 people died in the attacks.

Germany football manager Oliver Bierhoff told a German newspaper of the bomb threat at the exclusive Molitor hotel hours before the match.

Police officers with dogs searched the hotel, but nothing suspicious was found.

"There was a bomb threat. The hotel has been widely cordoned off and evacuated," Bierhoff told the newspaper.

A hotel spokeswoman told Britain's Express all precautions were taken.

"We received an anonymous call about a bomb threat this morning," the spokeswoman said.

"Management took all precautions to ensure the safety of its guests and staff and are cooperating with the authorities."

Germany's footballers were undeterred at the time with Sami Khedira making light of the situation, posting a smiley photo on Instagram with the caption: "Bomb threat for the hotel. No problem for Die Mannshaft: then we'll play some Tennis at Rolan Garros... ;-)."
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Sami Khedira's Instagram post from Roland Garros. The post has since been removed from Instagram.

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The mood at Stade de France later was a chilling one, however, as news of bloodshed filtered through the crowd and police sirens wailed outside.

Thousands of football fans milled around the stadium, reluctant to leave the seemingly safe sports venue. The spectators didn't panic, despite hearing the sounds of explosions from outside.

The explosions went off during the first half of the match, at about 9.20pm (local time).

"We heard them, but we thought they were home-made devices or fireworks," football fan Frederic Lavergne said.

"We had no idea at the time what it was."

The explosion can he heard during the soccer match: https://t.co/hPhiii6xwB
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The second "bang" followed only minutes later, clearly audible as it ripped through the chill air.

The noise inside the stadium was low at that point, since there was little excitement in the game, and the sounds of the sirens outside were loud and clear. So was the whirling sounds of the police helicopter buzzing overhead.

By the end of the match, which France won 2-0, the mood was one of silent contemplation as news filtered in through mobile phones and social networks relaying the carnage outside.

What would otherwise have been a celebration of France's win became a night of worry. Some people were still singing near the end, but for most a sickening feeling had taken over. As many fans left the stadium they joined in singing the French national anthem in a show of solidarity.

Moments after the referee had blown his final whistle, hundreds of fans started streaming onto the field. At first, match stewards in their fluorescent tops surely were confused by the commotion. But it was soon clear that the fans just wanted to go onto the field, rather than face going outside.

"We preferred to stay on the field, that's where we felt safest," Lavergne said.

"We had difficulty understanding the explanations inside the stadium."

After a second public address announcement reassuring fans that it was safe to leave and to take public transport, fans started moving out.

France will host the European Championship next year, and Friday's match was one of a handful of games remaining for coach Didier Deschamps to test the national team before the tournament.

There will now be doubts as to whether it will be safe to host the tournament, with 24 teams involved in matches across the country.
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Like the incidents in London in July 2005, these 'terrorist' events happened just as a (G20) summit was meeting......
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Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:40 pm

^^In the days when this board was still moderated, and still run by a Canadian socialist, IanEye's huge steaming pile of timewasting, self-regarding, content-free, thread-derailing troll-shit would have been removed immediately.

The Eagles, ffs... They're not the only example of the USA torturing the planet, but still a memorably cruel one.
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