Horrorcore rapper faces murder charges.

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Postby Percival » Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:50 pm

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Also, what of the fact that he called the cops to check out noises in the basement? Was he freaking out from insomnia-induced paranoia? Or was he planning to later try to blame the deaths on mysterious "intruders"?


IMO, assuming he's guilty, which is not yet proven:

sounds like he was trying to turn himself in.

which when coupled with the "i love you guys" call to his home and his spending all of his time sleeping, sounds a lot like depression, actually.

which isn't very sensational or sociopathic, but would be more statistically likely.

[sensetive kids gets fucked over, goes nuts and hurts people, film at 11]


A few people have suggested he may have wanted to kill a few cops during this killing spree also but figured he couldnt overpower them once they showed up.

Dont know if its true or not but it is a big rumor thats making the rounds on several forums.
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Postby SonicG » Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:51 pm

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Also, what of the fact that he called the cops to check out noises in the basement? Was he freaking out from insomnia-induced paranoia? Or was he planning to later try to blame the deaths on mysterious "intruders"?


IMO, assuming he's guilty, which is not yet proven:

sounds like he was trying to turn himself in.

which when coupled with the "i love you guys" call to his home and his spending all of his time sleeping, sounds a lot like depression, actually.

which isn't very sensational or sociopathic, but would be more statistically likely.

[sensetive kids gets fucked over, goes nuts and hurts people, film at 11]


OK- and when they got there he lost his guts to turn himself in and just sent them to the basement? What's odd is how many times the cops and him came into contact and never thought anything. Beyond that, ok, maybe he was totally calm, they come to a house where some unknown person is, no resident of the house is there and they are looking for a missing person: "She went to the movies"!? And then the cops ticketed him for driving without a license and the cabbie also got ticketed on the way to the airport with both the towtruck and taxi drivers saying that the kid reeked something terrible.
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Postby OP ED » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:01 am

just a bunch sick fucks preying on confused overtyly emotional teenagers trying to make a buck on shock value




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Postby Maddy » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:03 am

I think that's another thing that makes this case so creepy - "sensitive kid into scary dark stuff kills four people in fit of passion and cops run into him over and over like some horror movie and no one knows a thing."

If I were in the audience I'd be the one jeering everyone before the axe comes down behind them going, "Turn around you idiot!"

Its just about enough to make me believe there's something more out there controlling this. The entire thing is almost too perfect.
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Postby SonicG » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:03 am

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There was an article on another forum I will have to dig for but the detective said the room was a bloodfbath with occult symbols written in blood on the walls.
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I grew up on punk music and still listen to it and enjoy it and for the most part I see it as anti establishment and even political rebellion, a rage against the machine if you will, horrorcore on the other hand is just a bunch sick fucks preying on confused overtyly emotional teenagers trying to make a buck on shock value. I am not one to confine music or art as being ONLY this or that but I certainly do not consider the horrorcore noise I have heard from this particular group as either music or art.


Would appreciate a link if possible...

I guess the "art" discussion has already been had and moved on to another thread but while individuals are ultimately responsible for their own actions, my argument would run along the lines of the the brutal social atomization of capitalism combined with its internal logic that forces the continued specialization of "niche markets" - atomization feeds feelings of powerlessness and thus illusionary power can be bought and more and more coarse forms.
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Postby Maddy » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:06 am

An aside: KISS was the first rock band I ever heard at the age of... I think I was nine? (My parents were of the variety that rock music was satanic.) I fell in love with rock music after that. Then I discovered punk and it was all downhill from there. :P
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Postby SonicG » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:09 am

Kids in Satanic Service!!

Oh and the word is that these SKR guys are posuers ripping off the OG black horrocore artists:

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Horrorcore made its biggest impact on hip-hop culture about ten or fifteen years ago, with Wu-Tang sub-sect The Gravediggaz (who were possibly tongue-in-cheek about the whole thing, considering their producer was Prince Paul) and the Dr. Dre-Ice Cube collabo "Natural Born Killers." Since then, the genre has become largely the province of alternative-leaning white MidEastern rappers like Detroit's Insane Clown Posse (with a few exceptions, like Detroit's Esham and Sacramento's C-Bo and Brotha Lynch Hung.) Given that, Syko Sam's suspected killing frenzy raises new questions - not about the link between violence and hardcore rap, but about the cultural appropriation of the genre by white Satanists. It's also another bad look for MySpace, which is getting a bad rep as a place where serial killers stalk victims online.
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Postby Percival » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:26 am

SonicG wrote:
OP ED wrote:
Also, what of the fact that he called the cops to check out noises in the basement? Was he freaking out from insomnia-induced paranoia? Or was he planning to later try to blame the deaths on mysterious "intruders"?


IMO, assuming he's guilty, which is not yet proven:

sounds like he was trying to turn himself in.

which when coupled with the "i love you guys" call to his home and his spending all of his time sleeping, sounds a lot like depression, actually.

which isn't very sensational or sociopathic, but would be more statistically likely.

[sensetive kids gets fucked over, goes nuts and hurts people, film at 11]


OK- and when they got there he lost his guts to turn himself in and just sent them to the basement? What's odd is how many times the cops and him came into contact and never thought anything. Beyond that, ok, maybe he was totally calm, they come to a house where some unknown person is, no resident of the house is there and they are looking for a missing person: "She went to the movies"!? And then the cops ticketed him for driving without a license and the cabbie also got ticketed on the way to the airport with both the towtruck and taxi drivers saying that the kid reeked something terrible.


The fact that others said he smelled so badly is a very important piece of this puzzle because we know that the house had a totally SEPERATE area from the main part of the house. The bodies were in this seperate area and the basement was in the main part of thehouse where everything else was including the bedrooms bathrooms kitchen etc, so he killed them in this little seperate area which the cops didnt check and couldnt have smelled the decomposed bodies from where they were in the main house. So what does him smelling so badly tell us? It tells us that he spent a considerable amount of time in that seperate area where the bodies were after they started to decompose, he REMAINED in that area, near the bodies long enough that the smell began to cling to his body and he took the odor on himself. He didnt have to stay in that area since the main house is where everything else was YET HE CHOOSE to stay in the area where the dead bodies were for such a long time that he began to smell to, and smelled badly enough that the tow truck driver himself was RETCHING even with the windows down. So what kind of person spends time, enough time to begin to smell themselves, with dead bodies when they can be in a totally different part of the house where there is no smell or sign of the dead?

A sociopath I say.



I also want to comment on something I dont like to talk about much but it is the best and only example I can personally attest to. I was in the US military I am a trained US Navy Seal. The only action I saw was in Panama when we were sent to capture Noriega. I dont wish to discuss the details of all of that as I am not at liberty to do so, but my point is that we were trained to be unemotional, unattached and unhesitant to KILL, we were trained to the point that killing was a second nature we didnt think twice about it, it is what we were trained to do above all else. 99.9 percent of all the people in my squad were very haunted by what we had to do in Panama, when you kill someone it stays with you forever no matter how much training and brainwash they put us through you never get over it, even if its the enemy you know its a human being likely a father or a son or a loved one to someone, it haunts you in your sleep and disturbs you when you are awake and it never goes away, you move on and deal with it and can have a relatively normal life after but its always there and its a heavy burden to carry around the rest of your life, this is how MOST every single soldier I know feels to this day, we did what we had to do but we didnt enjoy it for a moment, even if many of you might feel that those of us who served in a war theater enjoyed going out and machine gunning everything in sight, it isnt true for 99% of the people who serve, but there was always one or two guys in our squad who really did enjoy it and were totally incapable of realizing that they were killing real living and breathing human beings, someone who was some mothers son. They loved to kill and thought nothing of it, they were good soldiers and to this day they brag about their exploits and get a hard on thinking about it. I served side by side with a FEW of these types, and they were indeed FEW during my time in the military, I dont know about now but there were very few then, but my question is what makes them that way, it is clear to me that they are wired differently than the rest of it and I believe one pretty much has to be born that way, these people, the FEW that I knew, were clearly sociopathic in my opinion and I believe they were such due to some sort of genetic defect.


So I ask, what is a sociopath and how does one become one in your opinion?
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Postby Percival » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:30 am

Maddy wrote:An aside: KISS was the first rock band I ever heard at the age of... I think I was nine? (My parents were of the variety that rock music was satanic.) I fell in love with rock music after that. Then I discovered punk and it was all downhill from there. :P


Same route I took, I was all into KISS at about the age of ten and they were totally tame compared to this horrorcore shit, thats apples and oranges, then I discovered Dead Kennedys and it was all she wrote LOL, I never went back from there, I still love punk and I am no young kid anymore, there is just something about punk that grabs you and doesnt let go.
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Postby Maddy » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:33 am

{{***GROAN***}}

I can see where this will be heading.

Given that, Syko Sam's suspected killing frenzy raises new questions - not about the link between violence and hardcore rap, but about the cultural appropriation of the genre by white Satanists.


Satanists: Michael Aquino is a Satanist. Aleister Crowley was Satanic. These kids are not satanists!

[*insert banging head on keyboard emoticon here*]

Next installment: "How we should ban rock and rap music because its teaching our children to worship satan and kill each other in satanic rituals, and bring back prayer and creationism to our classrooms - written by Your Friendly Neighborhood Theocrat"
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Postby Percival » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:38 am

Maddy wrote:{{***GROAN***}}

I can see where this will be heading.

Given that, Syko Sam's suspected killing frenzy raises new questions - not about the link between violence and hardcore rap, but about the cultural appropriation of the genre by white Satanists.


Satanists: Michael Aquino is a Satanist. Aleister Crowley was Satanic. These kids are not satanists!

[*insert banging head on keyboard emoticon here*]

Next installment: "How we should ban rock and rap music because its teaching our children to worship satan and kill each other in satanic rituals, and bring back prayer and creationism to our classrooms - written by Your Friendly Neighborhood Theocrat"


Yes, as you know real satanism has nothing to do with any devils although there are devil worshipers out there who do believe in such things and call themselves satanists mistakingly. I personally believe Lucifer in the myths was the real creator and force of goodness in the bible but I dont believe that is anything other than a story and it has nothing to do with any devils.
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Postby Percival » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:40 am

SonicG wrote:Kids in Satanic Service!!

Oh and the word is that these SKR guys are posuers ripping off the OG black horrocore artists:

SF Weekly

Horrorcore made its biggest impact on hip-hop culture about ten or fifteen years ago, with Wu-Tang sub-sect The Gravediggaz (who were possibly tongue-in-cheek about the whole thing, considering their producer was Prince Paul) and the Dr. Dre-Ice Cube collabo "Natural Born Killers." Since then, the genre has become largely the province of alternative-leaning white MidEastern rappers like Detroit's Insane Clown Posse (with a few exceptions, like Detroit's Esham and Sacramento's C-Bo and Brotha Lynch Hung.) Given that, Syko Sam's suspected killing frenzy raises new questions - not about the link between violence and hardcore rap, but about the cultural appropriation of the genre by white Satanists. It's also another bad look for MySpace, which is getting a bad rep as a place where serial killers stalk victims online.


These SKR kids are nothing but a little myspace music cult, nobody has ever heard of them outside of their little myspace clique. Its a very very small group of hacks.
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Postby Crow » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:49 am

Maddy wrote: Aleister Crowley was Satanic.


Aleister Crowley was not a Satanist. He played with provocative "Satanic" imagery and metaphor, but that is very different from being a Satanist.
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Postby Maddy » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:51 am

I wrote a huge long response that made no sense even to myself, Percival. I decided to not post it. I'm too tired. But yes - what you said.

Bed for me. I've quit making sense (if I ever did make any!) :P
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Postby Maddy » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:52 am

Sorry Crow, I edited that response four times and forgot to put the "" around that. I'm tired. Hence bed.
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