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Jackriddler wrote:I'm saying a covert operation to stage 9/11 would attend to basic details and seek to minimize complexity and risk of exposure. The more "found" elements, the better. The alleged allegeds don't have to be hijackers, but they do have to be on the plane and they should, if at all possible, have extremist Islamist backgrounds or associations. (Question: Isn't the trail and agency surveillance of these alleged allegeds at least as relevant to the 9/11 research as, say, the trail of Oswald is to JFK research?)
17breezes wrote:barracuda wrote:17breezes wrote:Grow up dweeb.MacCruiskeen wrote:Ah, fuck off.
The sophistication level of the discourse here seems on the wane.
Hopefully you take note of who always starts the shit. He can't seem to get me off his mind, just like Nordic. If he didn't keep insulting me I would never have a fucking word to say to him. He is exquisitely ignorable but for that. He can raise the sophistication level by ignoring me but I don't think he is psychically capable of it.
Searcher08 wrote:17breezes wrote:barracuda wrote:17breezes wrote:Grow up dweeb.MacCruiskeen wrote:Ah, fuck off.
The sophistication level of the discourse here seems on the wane.
Hopefully you take note of who always starts the shit. He can't seem to get me off his mind, just like Nordic. If he didn't keep insulting me I would never have a fucking word to say to him. He is exquisitely ignorable but for that. He can raise the sophistication level by ignoring me but I don't think he is psychically capable of it.
I am struck by the consistent approach used by you, 17breezes. It seemed very familiar... then I remembered where I came across it before
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Hasbara
The techniques utilized
* Smearing/defaming critics of Israel, aka, attacking the messenger. This is even the terminology found in the Hasbara Handbook
* Selective discussion of issues
* Framing of issues, and setting the terminology used in discussing Israel
* Harassing media about its coverage, aka, flak
* Challenging the portrayal of an alternative narrative, and attempting to keep the zionist narrative as the dominant one.
Hasbara Campus Manual
The Hasbara Handbook: Promoting Israel on Campus, is now available online. And this is an interesting admission (page 31 onwards):
Propaganda is used by those who want to communicate in ways that engage the emotions and downplay rationality, in an attempt to promote a certain message.
The manual goes on to describe seven propaganda techniques:
1. Name calling: through the careful use of words, then name calling technique links a person or an idea to a negative symbol.
2. Glittering generality: Simply put, glittering generality is name calling in reverse. Instead of trying to attach negative meanings to ideas or people, glittering generalities use positive phrases, which the audience are attached to, in order to lend positive image to things. Words such as "freedom", "civilization",…
3. Transfer: Transfer involves taking some of the prestige and authority of one concept and applying it to another. For example, a speaker might decide to speak in front of a United Nations flag, in an attempt to gain legitimacy for himself or his idea.
4. Testimonial: Testimonial means enlisting the support of somebody admired or famous to endorse and ideal or campaign.
5. Plain folks: The plain folks technique attempts to convince the listener that the speaker is a 'regular guy', who is trust-worthy because the are like 'you or me'.
6. Fear: See fear.
7. Bandwagon: See bandwagon.
The examples given are very interesting, and worth reading.
I recommend that everyone here at least skims the document (especially from page 31) and then read 17breezes posts in the light of it.
http://www.middle-east-info.org/take/wujshasbara.pdf
17breezes wrote:[And another "good old boy," breaks the rule about calling other posters agents. But will Jeff and Macnasty have a secret pow-wow about him? Ha!
No, it's only RI legal open season on one person here. What a joke.
Continue your toolishness searcher007.
Searcher08 wrote:
I am struck by the consistent approach used by you, 17breezes. It seemed very familiar... then I remembered where I came across it before
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Hasbara
The techniques utilized
* Smearing/defaming critics of Israel, aka, attacking the messenger. This is even the terminology found in the Hasbara Handbook
* Selective discussion of issues
* Framing of issues, and setting the terminology used in discussing Israel
* Harassing media about its coverage, aka, flak
* Challenging the portrayal of an alternative narrative, and attempting to keep the zionist narrative as the dominant one.
Hasbara Campus Manual
The Hasbara Handbook: Promoting Israel on Campus, is now available online. And this is an interesting admission (page 31 onwards):
Propaganda is used by those who want to communicate in ways that engage the emotions and downplay rationality, in an attempt to promote a certain message.
The manual goes on to describe seven propaganda techniques:
1. Name calling: through the careful use of words, then name calling technique links a person or an idea to a negative symbol.
2. Glittering generality: Simply put, glittering generality is name calling in reverse. Instead of trying to attach negative meanings to ideas or people, glittering generalities use positive phrases, which the audience are attached to, in order to lend positive image to things. Words such as "freedom", "civilization",…
3. Transfer: Transfer involves taking some of the prestige and authority of one concept and applying it to another. For example, a speaker might decide to speak in front of a United Nations flag, in an attempt to gain legitimacy for himself or his idea.
4. Testimonial: Testimonial means enlisting the support of somebody admired or famous to endorse and ideal or campaign.
5. Plain folks: The plain folks technique attempts to convince the listener that the speaker is a 'regular guy', who is trust-worthy because the are like 'you or me'.
6. Fear: See fear.
7. Bandwagon: See bandwagon.
The examples given are very interesting, and worth reading.
I recommend that everyone here at least skims the document (especially from page 31) and then read 17breezes posts in the light of it.
http://www.middle-east-info.org/take/wujshasbara.pdf
17breezes wrote:And another "good old boy,"
17breezes wrote:breaks the rule about calling other posters agents.
17breezes wrote:But will Jeff and Macnasty have a secret pow-wow about him? Ha!
17breezes wrote:No, it's only RI legal open season on one person here. What a joke.
17breezes wrote:Continue your toolishness searcher007.
Searcher08 wrote:just in case you DO work with Mossad, can I suggest they tighten up their recruitment policies?
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