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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:18 AM
Don Jeffries wrote:
The official narrative for what happened in Sandy Hook is impossible (that is, if you can even figure out exactly what the official narrative is, as it has never been consistent). The snopes "debunking" piece Len notes is the internet equivalent of the Popular Mechanics "debunking" of 9/11 "truthers." Snopes exists to "debunk" independent reporting from those unconnected to the msm.
The live helicopter footage that day is available in numerous videos online, and it reveals no one coming out of the school, and no one going in, either. All you see are pockets of police and fire fighters, standing in small groups, looking anything but concerned. The lack of activity is astonishing. No video anywhere of an evacuation of the students, and since there were supposedly some 600 students at Sandy Hook (I've seen various numbers reported, but this seems to be the most common figure), there would have had to have been at least that many parents coming to pick them up. Thus, the helicopter footage should have revealed a real madhouse- more than 1000 people milling about and the mass evacuation of students should have been caught on tape by someone.
One can also see that there are ZERO ambulances or rescue squads at the school. Once this kind of horrific mass shooting was reported, a slew of emergency medical vehicles should have been racing to the scene, to try and render assistance to the victims. Yet we are supposed to believe that not a single EMT person entered the building, to try and save anyone? There were initially two adults reported as injured, one of them shot in the foot. We have heard nothing more about these injured persons, and they have not been interviewed. One would think that kind of interview would have real dramatic impact, but evidently no one in the msm has been interested. If what we've been told is true, the bodies of these little children and adults were not removed from the school until about 10 p.m. that night. Does that sound like standard operating procedure?
As critics have noted, we've seen no footage of the crime scene whatsoever. Why no photo of the shot out glass at the entrance to the school, for instance? Instead, we have been shown the same ridiculous photo of about 20 kids being marched, with their eyes closed for some unknown reason, across a parking lot. It has been suggested (don't know if proof on this is clear) that this photo was actually taken during a drill a few months earlier. At any rate, why is that the only photo we're ever shown? Are we seriously going to believe that none of the photographers on the scene thought to snap other photos of students emerging from the building, or of tearful reunions with their relieved parents?
Instead, we have to be satisfied with a slew of interviews with one Gene Rosen, who is so bizarre and unconvincing that he single handedly creates doubt about this incident in a lot of minds. Again, I won't comment specifically on the parents that have been interviewed, but they do all share in common a startling lack of emotion about the sudden and violent loss of their children. And we must heed the warnings of Police Lt. Vance, who early on indicated that those who post "information" about this event online would be prosecuted. Exactly what crime would someone commenting on this widely publicized event be prosecuted for? Is it now a crime to dispute what government agencies say?
This event, like others of significance, goes well beyond the phony left-right paradigm. Thus, right-winger Glenn Beck attacks the Sandy Hook "truthers," along with his leftist co-hort, ex-CIA intern Anderson Cooper, who absolutely raged out on air against a college professor who questioned the official story, and in fact pretty much demanded he be fired. Good old Anderson- always ready to skewer the rich and powerful.
The attacks by Beck, Anderson, snopes and the like are all part of the Cass Sunstein campaign to make "conspiracy theories" illegal. Anyone who raises questions about the inconsistencies in this story is instantly labeled a "conspiracy theorist." The reason so many individuals are putting out these videos on the internet, focusing on the flaws in the official narrative with varying degrees of success, is because the mainstream "journalists," as always, just swallow every "official" pronoucement without question, and fawn over the likes of Gene Rosen. An average preschooler could do a better job of critical reporting than these msm "journalists" do.
The most basic questions about this event have not been answered sufficiently. What weapons were used? How did Adam have his brother's identification, when he hadn't seen him in two years? Why was a body-initially said to be that of Adam's father-reportedly discovered in Ryan Lanza's home in New Jersey? If it wasn't his father's body, what body did they find there? Who owned the car Adam drove to school that day? Was it Adam's mother, or a career petty thief that was seemingly unconnected to the Lanzas? How did Adam get into the school? First, a witness told reporters she saw the principal buzz Adam in, and that she did so because she recognized him (remember, this was early on, when all reports indicated his mother was a teacher there). Then, we were told Adam blasted his way in. Finally, police claimed they shot the glass out to open the entrance door. So which of the three versions are we to believe?
There are so many more questions here. If we truly had a free press, and real investigative reporters, there would be a huge story here. Instead, all we get from our establishment press are hit pieces on those "conspiracy theorists" who dare to point out that, once again, the emperor is wearing no clothes.
conniption wrote:Education ForumPosted 25 January 2013 - 07:18 AM
Don Jeffries wrote:
The official narrative for what happened in Sandy Hook is impossible (that is, if you can even figure out exactly what the official narrative is, as it has never been consistent). The snopes "debunking" piece Len notes is the internet equivalent of the Popular Mechanics "debunking" of 9/11 "truthers." Snopes exists to "debunk" independent reporting from those unconnected to the msm.
The live helicopter footage that day is available in numerous videos online, and it reveals no one coming out of the school, and no one going in, either. All you see are pockets of police and fire fighters, standing in small groups, looking anything but concerned. The lack of activity is astonishing. No video anywhere of an evacuation of the students, and since there were supposedly some 600 students at Sandy Hook (I've seen various numbers reported, but this seems to be the most common figure), there would have had to have been at least that many parents coming to pick them up. Thus, the helicopter footage should have revealed a real madhouse- more than 1000 people milling about and the mass evacuation of students should have been caught on tape by someone.
One can also see that there are ZERO ambulances or rescue squads at the school. Once this kind of horrific mass shooting was reported, a slew of emergency medical vehicles should have been racing to the scene, to try and render assistance to the victims. Yet we are supposed to believe that not a single EMT person entered the building, to try and save anyone? There were initially two adults reported as injured, one of them shot in the foot. We have heard nothing more about these injured persons, and they have not been interviewed. One would think that kind of interview would have real dramatic impact, but evidently no one in the msm has been interested. If what we've been told is true, the bodies of these little children and adults were not removed from the school until about 10 p.m. that night. Does that sound like standard operating procedure?
As critics have noted, we've seen no footage of the crime scene whatsoever. Why no photo of the shot out glass at the entrance to the school, for instance? Instead, we have been shown the same ridiculous photo of about 20 kids being marched, with their eyes closed for some unknown reason, across a parking lot. It has been suggested (don't know if proof on this is clear) that this photo was actually taken during a drill a few months earlier. At any rate, why is that the only photo we're ever shown? Are we seriously going to believe that none of the photographers on the scene thought to snap other photos of students emerging from the building, or of tearful reunions with their relieved parents?
Instead, we have to be satisfied with a slew of interviews with one Gene Rosen, who is so bizarre and unconvincing that he single handedly creates doubt about this incident in a lot of minds. Again, I won't comment specifically on the parents that have been interviewed, but they do all share in common a startling lack of emotion about the sudden and violent loss of their children. And we must heed the warnings of Police Lt. Vance, who early on indicated that those who post "information" about this event online would be prosecuted. Exactly what crime would someone commenting on this widely publicized event be prosecuted for? Is it now a crime to dispute what government agencies say?
This event, like others of significance, goes well beyond the phony left-right paradigm. Thus, right-winger Glenn Beck attacks the Sandy Hook "truthers," along with his leftist co-hort, ex-CIA intern Anderson Cooper, who absolutely raged out on air against a college professor who questioned the official story, and in fact pretty much demanded he be fired. Good old Anderson- always ready to skewer the rich and powerful.
The attacks by Beck, Anderson, snopes and the like are all part of the Cass Sunstein campaign to make "conspiracy theories" illegal. Anyone who raises questions about the inconsistencies in this story is instantly labeled a "conspiracy theorist." The reason so many individuals are putting out these videos on the internet, focusing on the flaws in the official narrative with varying degrees of success, is because the mainstream "journalists," as always, just swallow every "official" pronoucement without question, and fawn over the likes of Gene Rosen. An average preschooler could do a better job of critical reporting than these msm "journalists" do.
The most basic questions about this event have not been answered sufficiently. What weapons were used? How did Adam have his brother's identification, when he hadn't seen him in two years? Why was a body-initially said to be that of Adam's father-reportedly discovered in Ryan Lanza's home in New Jersey? If it wasn't his father's body, what body did they find there? Who owned the car Adam drove to school that day? Was it Adam's mother, or a career petty thief that was seemingly unconnected to the Lanzas? How did Adam get into the school? First, a witness told reporters she saw the principal buzz Adam in, and that she did so because she recognized him (remember, this was early on, when all reports indicated his mother was a teacher there). Then, we were told Adam blasted his way in. Finally, police claimed they shot the glass out to open the entrance door. So which of the three versions are we to believe?
There are so many more questions here. If we truly had a free press, and real investigative reporters, there would be a huge story here. Instead, all we get from our establishment press are hit pieces on those "conspiracy theorists" who dare to point out that, once again, the emperor is wearing no clothes.
The attacks by Beck, Anderson, snopes and the like are all part of the Cass Sunstein campaign to make "conspiracy theories" illegal. Anyone who raises questions about the inconsistencies in this story is instantly labeled a "conspiracy theorist." The reason so many individuals are putting out these videos on the internet, focusing on the flaws in the official narrative with varying degrees of success, is because the mainstream "journalists," as always, just swallow every "official" pronoucement without question, and fawn over the likes of Gene Rosen. An average preschooler could do a better job of critical reporting than these msm "journalists" do.
Again, I won't comment specifically on the parents that have been interviewed, but they do all share in common a startling lack of emotion about the sudden and violent loss of their children.
Wombaticus Rex wrote:Again, I won't comment specifically on the parents that have been interviewed, but they do all share in common a startling lack of emotion about the sudden and violent loss of their children.
Who could get offended at reasonable questions like this? The guy is just stating the facts, right? Don't the people have a right to know?
lupercal wrote:^ go here, pull down Newtown, type in names, last name first:
https://www.mytaxbill.org/inet/revenue/search.do
Plug in Lanza Nancy for example and you'll see her 2010 Honda Civic. The problem is that it doesn't give license plate numbers so while suggestive, it isn't definitive.
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