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Re: Panama Papers

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:16 pm

Ziggin' and a Zaggin' » Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:13 pm wrote:
seemslikeadream » Wed Apr 13, 2016 9:57 am wrote:fuck the Panama Papers ...I want D.C. Madam names! :P


With all due respect, ... NO! I don't give a rat's ass about marital cheating. I do care about tax cheats though when it means that the "rest of us" have to pay more taxes because the ultra-rich don't pay any.


It's not about marital cheating -- fuck them and their spouses -- it's about a blueprint for a huge sexual blackmail campaign operating in Washington, DC and compromising the ostensible leadership of our ostensible Democratic Republic.

It's about treason, not sex.
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Re: Panama Papers

Postby Ziggin' and a Zaggin' » Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:00 pm

Wombaticus Rex said:

"It's not about marital cheating -- fuck them and their spouses -- it's about a blueprint for a huge sexual blackmail campaign operating in Washington, DC and compromising the ostensible leadership of our ostensible Democratic Republic.

It's about treason, not sex."

If you say so, All-Knowing Wombat. I choose to stick to my opinion. Thank you.
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Re: Panama Papers

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:08 pm

Ziggin' and a Zaggin' » Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:13 pm wrote:
seemslikeadream » Wed Apr 13, 2016 9:57 am wrote:fuck the Panama Papers ...I want D.C. Madam names! :P


With all due respect, ... NO! I don't give a rat's ass about marital cheating. I do care about tax cheats though when it means that the "rest of us" have to pay more taxes because the ultra-rich don't pay any.



this isn't about marital cheating.....it's about blackmail and Cruz's hypocrisy........With all due respect

and BTW the killing of the DC Madam for that matter
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Re: Panama Papers

Postby zangtang » Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:14 pm

and when you & Wombat say blackmail, I believe you mean......institutionalised extensive mutual coercive sexual blackmail....as standard operating procedure throughout Washington.

ie everybody threatening to blackmail everybody else, on an ongoing permanent basis - and that is part & parcel of how your policies & legislation is
getting proposed, sponsored, tabled, pushed and passed.


on edit - and everybody knows
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Re: Panama Papers

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:15 pm

yea how do you think Denny Hastert lasted so long :P

and stood up for Foley


Former House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert's indictment resurrects Mark Foley scandal
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-has ... story.html


I thought everyone here knew we don't care about people's private sex lives :)
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Re: Panama Papers

Postby Ziggin' and a Zaggin' » Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:22 pm

Seemslikeadream, Wombaticus Rex. Thanks for reminding me why I hardly ever posted here in the first place. Sorry to have intruded into your private little debating society.

Farewell, RI.

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Re: Panama Papers

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:29 pm

oh come on ....we just tried to explain that you were wrong about your opinion of what we believe

what....are you into sexual blackmail?.....cause that is what this is about ...not personal sex lives

one is allowed to correct the record here

you know how I get even with the tax thing?

I don't make enough money to pay taxes :P
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Re: Panama Papers

Postby zangtang » Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:34 pm

Haven't seen a flounce like that since Godlike productions...................................
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Re: Panama Papers

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:35 pm

hey I've done my fair share of flouncing around here...ask Jack :lol:
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Re: Panama Papers

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:45 pm

Panama Papers: US launches criminal inquiry into tax avoidance claims
US attorney for Manhattan says Department of Justice has opened investigation related to revelations exposed in massive leak of documents
Police outside the Mossack-Fonseca offices in Panama City. The firm’s leaked Panama Papers revealed how the world’s wealthy and powerful used offshore companies to stash assets.
Police outside the Mossack-Fonseca offices in Panama City. The firm’s leaked Panama Papers revealed how the world’s wealthy and powerful used offshore companies to stash assets. Photograph: Carlos Jasso/Reuters
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The US Department of Justice has launched a criminal investigation into the widespread international tax avoidance schemes exposed by the Panama Papers leak, published by the Guardian and other journalistic partners.

Preet Bharara, the US attorney for Manhattan, said he had “opened a criminal investigation regarding matters to which the Panama Papers are relevant”.

Bharara has written to the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ), which coordinated the unprecedented leak of 11.5m files from offshore law firm Mossack Fonseca, to ask for further information to assist with his criminal investigation.

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Letter from the Department of Justice to the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists stating they have opened an investigation. Photograph: US Department of Justice
The inquiry comes after Barack Obama described the revelations from the leaks – which have caused political tumult across the world – “important stuff” and global tax avoidance as a “huge problem”.

“There is no doubt that the problem of global tax avoidance generally is a huge problem,” Obama told reporters in an unscheduled appearance in the White House briefing room earlier this month. “The problem is that a lot of this stuff is legal, not illegal.

“A lot of these loopholes come at the expense of middle-class families, because that lost revenue has to be made up somewhere.”

The US president said the leak from Panama illustrated the scale of tax avoidance involving Fortune 500 companies and running into trillions of dollars worldwide.

“We shouldn’t make it legal to engage in transactions just to avoid taxes,” he added, praising instead “the basic principle of making sure everyone pays their fair share”.

The US attorney general’s office was unable to provide any further details about the criminal investigation because it is ongoing.

Bharara, who as US attorney general for the southern district of New York has led several crusades against criminal wrongdoing in the financial sector, is already investigating several of the more than 200 US citizens named in the papers.

Among them is Wall Street financier Benjamin Wey, who has been charged with securities fraud, wire fraud, conspiracy and money laundering for using family members to help him amass ownership of large blocks of stock in companies through so-called “reverse merger” transactions between Chinese companies and US shell companies. He made tens of millions of dollars of illegal profit by manipulating the companies’ stock prices, according to the indictment.

The Panama Papers leak shows that Mossack Fonseca helped set up the offshore companies used in the stock manipulation.

“Ben Wey fashioned himself a master of industry, but as alleged, he was merely a master of manipulation,” Bharara said when he announced the indictment against Wey in September. Wey, the chief executive of New York Global Group, denies the charge.

The release of the Panama Papers has sparked public outrage across the world, including the resignations of the the prime minister of Iceland and Spain’s industry minister following revelations about their offshore tax arrangements.

David Cameron, the British prime minister, has also been forced to defend his family’s tax arrangements after disclosures about an offshore fund established by his late father. He also has taken the unprecedented step of publicly releasing details from his tax returns.

The offices of Mossack Fonseca in Panama were raided by police officers last week on the orders of the country’s attorney general in an attempt to “establish the use of the firm for illicit activities”.

Mossack Fonseca is the world’s fourth biggest offshore law firm. It specialises in incorporating companies in offshore jurisdictions such as the British Virgin Islands.

The leaders of the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) have warned that the industrial scale of international tax avoidance revealed by the Panama Papers represents a “great concern” for the global economy and is having a “tremendously negative effect on our mission to end poverty”.

Jim Yong Kim, the president of the World Bank, said last week that the revelations that many of the world’s richest and most powerful people are avoiding paying millions in taxes by hiding money from the taxman in offshore havens is a “great, great concern” and “very, very damaging” to the bank’s “mission to end extreme poverty”.

“When taxes are evaded, when state assets are taken and put into these havens, all of these things can have a tremendous negative effect on our mission to end poverty and boost prosperity,” he said.

Christine Lagarde, managing director of the IMF, said the world’s financial regulators had long been “alarmed” about Panama’s lax approach to taxation and corruption but failed to take action.

In her strongest comments yet addressing the scandal exposed by the Panama Papers, Lagarde said: “In the case of Panama there had been alert and alarm raised, but there had not been the level of implementation that was expected.”

She said the leak showed that “the [international tax] rules appear to be skewed towards” the global rich. “Clearly what has resulted from the review of these Panama Papers indicates that however important [international tax rules to prevent] base erosion and profit shifting … it is unfinished business,” she said in an opening address to the meeting.
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Re: Panama Papers

Postby zangtang » Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:51 pm

if whoever did this could just get a similar trove from the 3 or 4 larger offshore law firms......would that build a global picture.....or still just a picture of Panama?

it would whatever, be more juice, & more fun.
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Re: Panama Papers

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri May 06, 2016 3:47 pm

Panama Papers Source Releases Manifesto, Denies Working for Government
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"I do not work for any government or intelligence agency"

The anonymous source behind the Panama Papers leak has written a manifesto explaining why he facilitated the release of law firm Mossack Fonseca’s records in one of the largest data leaks in history and denying working for a nation or intelligence agency.

Published in the Süddeutsche Zeitung, the German newspaper that initially obtained the Panama documents, “John Doe’s” manifesto says he wanted to expose the “massive pervasive corruption” that has led to worldwide income inequality.

He outlines a few reforms he hopes to see, including in the United States’ campaign finance system. And he calls for protection for whistleblowers, writing, “Legitimate whistleblowers who expose unquestionable wrongdoing, whether insiders or outsiders, deserve immunity from government retribution, full stop.”

“Democracy’s checks and balances have all failed, that the breakdown is systemic, and that severe instability could be just around the corner,” John Doe writes. “So now is the time for real action, and that starts with asking questions.”

Doe also attempted to shut down speculation that he is an intelligence operative or government agent. “For the record, I do not work for any government or intelligence agency, directly or as a contractor, and I never have,” he wrote. “My viewpoint is entirely my own.”



Investigation of Panama Papers, RBC offshore clients underway: CRA

CRA's Commissioner of Revenue and Chief Executive Officer Andrew Treusch waits to appear before a standing committee on Finance in Ottawa on Thursday, May 5, 2016. iPolitics/Matthew Usherwood
The Canada Revenue Agency has obtained “tens of thousands of records” concerning Canadians with offshore accounts linked to the Panama Papers and is about to get years worth of records from the Royal Bank of Canada, Commissioner Andrew Treusch told MPs Thursday.

Testifying before the House of Commons Finance Committee, Treusch said the agency filed an application in court this week to get the names of Royal Bank of Canada clients involved in offshore banking schemes set up with the help of the law firm at the heart of the Panama Papers.

“Yesterday, we applied for authorization to issue an unnamed persons requirement to the Royal Bank of Canada for information about RBC clients linked to the Panamanian law firm Mossack Fonseca, subject of the Panama Papers,” Treusch told the committee.

“RBC has informed CRA that they will not oppose the court application. With court approval, the CRA will receive this information expeditiously.”

Treusch’s revelation comes a month after a network of media outlets around the world led by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ) began rolling out a devastating series of stories based on a year-long investigation of 11.5 million files leaked from the Panamanian law firm Mossack Fonseca. The stories detail a system of offshore companies that enables clients ranging from members of the Mafia to international political leaders or members of their families to stash assets in secretive tax havens.

While offshore companies and bank accounts can be set up for completely legitimate reasons, they can also be used to avoid or evade taxes. It is not illegal to have a bank account or investments in an offshore tax haven, but it is illegal for Canadians not to report any income that they earn from those investments to the Canada Revenue Agency when they file their taxes.

According to the Toronto Star, which along with CBC and Radio Canada, partnered with the ICIJ in the investigation, there are at least 350 Canadians identified in the database.

Appearing before the finance committee, Treusch said the tax agency was already looking into some Mossack Fonseca clients before the Panama Papers hit the headlines.

“Based on our own sources of information, we had initiated 40 audits related to Mossack Fonseca prior to the Panama Papers release,” he explained.

“Through more recent efforts, the CRA now has tens of thousands of records from multiple sources. The agency will use this and any other data collected from various sources to ensure that all Canadian taxpayers identified from the Panama Papers are pursued.”

Treusch’s comments came as he and other senior CRA officials were called before the finance committee in connection with a controversial deal negotiated with two dozen wealthy clients of accounting firm KPMG who had participated in an offshore Isle of Man tax scheme that CRA has described as a “sham.”

Treusch disputed news reports that described the deal as an “amnesty” that allowed KPMG’s clients off the hook in return for paying taxes on income they hadn’t declared plus interest.

“May I say, for the record, that we do not characterize the KPMG file as an amnesty. This is a term that has been applied by a media. This is not one that we accept. This matter remains before the court. We are determined to continue to get all of the participants in this scheme and we want our day in court.”

“Our work is not done.”

Treusch said the CRA is currently focusing on unearthing offshore bank accounts on the Isle of Man owned by Canadians.

“We are now underway with what I would describe as a blitz on Isle of Man accounts – up to 800.”

While he refused to confirm that the controversial deal with KPMG clients posted to CBC’s website was authentic, Assistant Commissioner Ted Gallivan noted that it discussed going back 15 tax years, much further than CRA would usually go back in time.

“That would be consistent with our approach to offshore tax evasion, the most serious kind of non-compliance that we detect.”

Gallivan said the interest on 15 years of back taxes equals a 25 per cent surcharge and he said a careful reading of the document on the CBC website “indicates there is no immunity from criminal prosecution.”

While NDP MPs Pierre-Luc Dusseault and Guy Caron moved to have the committee compel KPMG to provide documents indicating a list of clients who participated in the Isle of Man offshore tax scheme and a list of its employees involved in developing and marketing it, the committee ended up adopting a version watered down by Liberal members of the committee to request KPMG provide the names of the employees plus “legally allowable” documents about the Isle of Man and other offshore tax schemes.

Dusseault also gave notice of a future motion, calling for the CRA to provide copies of all of its correspondence with KPMG about the Isle of Man tax scheme between Jan 1, 1999 and present.



U.S. tightens checks on anonymous companies following Panama Papers release
By Ana Swanson May 5 at 9:00 PM

Issues of German daily Sueddeutsche Zeitung on the Panama Papers with illustrations by Peter M. Hoffmann depicting heads of state. CHRISTOF STACHE/AFP/Getty Images
The Obama administration announced several rules Thursday evening meant to combat tax evasion, money laundering and financial crime amid renewed scrutiny over the use of offshore accounts and anonymous companies to conceal money.

The rules, which include requiring financial institutions to find out and keep records on the real owners behind the companies that use their services, aim to help U.S. law enforcement pierce the layers of anonymous shell companies that people can use to disguise their financial dealings around the world.

The announcement follows a month of intense scrutiny after the release to media organizations of more than 11 million leaked documents detailing the global offshore industry.

The Panama Papers, which are the corporate records of one global law firm, Panama City-based Mossack Fonseca, show how wealthy individuals have masked their identity and secretly stashed money across the globe. There’s nothing illegal about the use of offshore companies; in practice, however, criminals take advantage of the anonymity that these companies provide.

The United States itself has become one of the most secretive jurisdictions for establishing these types of companies, analysts say. That's because while countries around the world, often under U.S. pressure, have signed agreements for sharing financial information, the United States has not. That has left America in the position of being a comparatively easy place to set up offshore companies, ranked by the Tax Justice Network as third in terms of secrecy and scale.

States such as Delaware, Wyoming and Nevada don’t require proof of identification when setting up a company, a task that can be accomplished in a few hours by paying only a few hundred dollars.

Since the states have been reluctant to ask companies to report their real owners, the Obama administration is now compelling financial institutions to do it, with what it has termed a “customer due diligence” rule. The regulation requires banks, securities brokers and dealers, mutual funds and other financial institutions to collect and verify personal information on the people who own, control or profit from companies that are their clients.

Advocates for financial transparency have welcomed the rule, though some say it doesn’t go far enough in requiring financial institutions to verify that the person providing the information is the actual owner.

“Our view is that this should be the start of the due diligence, not the end of it,” Heather Lowe of Global Financial Integrity said about the proposed rule in April. It remains to be seen whether privacy advocates or banks could challenge the rule in the courts.

The administration also proposed regulation that would close a small, but significant, loophole allowing one type of foreign-owned company — called a single-member limited liability company — to operate anonymously in the United States. It also issued draft legislation — which needs congressional approval to go into effect — that would require the real owners of companies to file their information with the Treasury Department at the time a company is created, information that could then be shared with law enforcement.

Reps. Carolyn B. Maloney (D-N.Y.) and Peter T.King (R-N.Y.), and Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) have also introduced a bill calling for all shell companies registered in the United States to report their real owners.

“The administration is doing everything we can, but we also need Congress to take action,” Adewale Adeyemo, the deputy national security adviser for international economics, said in a press call Thursday evening.

In a letter, Treasury Secretary Jack Lew also called upon the Senate to approve eight pending tax treaties with other countries that he said would help law enforcement investigate financial crime and catch tax evaders.
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But instead, they want mass death.
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Re: Panama Papers

Postby DrEvil » Fri May 06, 2016 5:38 pm

There's a really "simple" solution for anonymous ownership: If ownership can't be established all assets are seized. Own up or lose it.

Haha, who am I kidding.
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Re: Panama Papers

Postby 82_28 » Fri May 06, 2016 9:52 pm

Ziggin' and a Zaggin' » Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:22 am wrote:Seemslikeadream, Wombaticus Rex. Thanks for reminding me why I hardly ever posted here in the first place. Sorry to have intruded into your private little debating society.

Farewell, RI.

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Might I add, there is never any reason to "leave" a website for good and announce it. Especially since Z & Z, you only have over 100 comments. I just think it is funny. To say "I'm out" is basically lame. You are more than welcome here. It ain't no private little debating society. It's a place to speak/write what's on your mind.

And, I guess you just did.
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Re: Panama Papers

Postby Harvey » Sat May 07, 2016 3:12 am

Panama Source breaks silence, according to Guardian.

...Intriguingly, the source said they originally offered the documents to “several major media outlets”. Editors reviewed the Panama Papers but in the end “chose not to cover them”, they alleged. It is unclear which media organisations declined the material.

The anonymous whistleblower also approached WikiLeaks – again without success. “Even WikiLeaks didn’t answer its tip line repeatedly,” the source complained, adding: “The media has failed.”
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