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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

Postby Cosmic Cowbell » Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:45 am

http://www.scribd.com/doc/93378416/Kelly-Cahill-Encounter

Those who understand the uniqueness of this case and the rarity of the Cahill book will appreciate this I imagine.

There was a scientific paper linked/posted here at some point (I think) somewhere that examined why "Science" ignores Ufology and simply can't acknowledge the phenomena. I've looked for it but no luck. I'd appreciate it if anyone knows where I could find that paper.

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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

Postby elfismiles » Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:27 pm

Cosmic Cowbell wrote:http://www.scribd.com/doc/93378416/Kelly-Cahill-Encounter

Those who understand the uniqueness of this case and the rarity of the Cahill book will appreciate this I imagine.

There was a scientific paper linked/posted here at some point (I think) somewhere that examined why "Science" ignores Ufology and simply can't acknowledge the phenomena. I've looked for it but no luck. I'd appreciate it if anyone knows where I could find that paper.

~C


Hi CC - are you referring to that most awesome of essays you yourself posted:

Sovereignty and the UFO
Alexander Wendt -The Ohio State University
Raymond Duvall - University of Minnesota
http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/view ... 8&p=368145

... and ...

http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/view ... 7&p=209017


Also, those fellas contributed a chapter based on that paper in UFOs: Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials Go on the Record
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

Postby Cosmic Cowbell » Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:02 pm

Thanks Miles...don't be too surprised if I ask where I can get the "Encounters" .pdf a couple of years from now. Getting old sucks a bit sometimes....ok, scratch that...most of the time. :hrumph

BTW - You're a good guy. Just sayin....
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

Postby elfismiles » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:39 am

Cosmic Cowbell wrote:Thanks Miles...don't be too surprised if I ask where I can get the "Encounters" .pdf a couple of years from now. Getting old sucks a bit sometimes....ok, scratch that...most of the time. :hrumph

BTW - You're a good guy. Just sayin....


Aw thanks CC. Yer quite welcome.

My memory aint wut er usta b. Likely just remembered cuz I think that academic assessment of the UFO's power over institutions is extremely important.
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

Postby operator kos » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:47 pm

Well, the Sirius movie came out last night. I haven't seen it yet myself, but initial reactions and reviews pretty much confirmed my suspicions. A big rehash of stuff we've already seen, some weak coverage of supposed over-unity energy devices people are working on, and analysis of the humanoid showing that it was born to a Chilean woman and has a number of mutations/deformities which Greer tries to spin into something amazing. Also, lots and lots of new age woo to make sure mainstream audiences never take any of this stuff seriously.
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

Postby elfismiles » Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:56 pm

operator kos wrote:Well, the Sirius movie came out last night. I haven't seen it yet myself, but initial reactions and reviews pretty much confirmed my suspicions. A big rehash of stuff we've already seen, some weak coverage of supposed over-unity energy devices people are working on, and analysis of the humanoid showing that it was born to a Chilean woman and has a number of mutations/deformities which Greer tries to spin into something amazing. Also, lots and lots of new age woo to make sure mainstream audiences never take any of this stuff seriously.


Yeah, "Greer's check is in the mail" no doubt.

Actually, I don't really know if he's a paid dupe or just a dufus.
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

Postby justdrew » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:04 pm

operator kos wrote:Well, the Sirius movie came out last night. I haven't seen it yet myself, but initial reactions and reviews pretty much confirmed my suspicions. A big rehash of stuff we've already seen, some weak coverage of supposed over-unity energy devices people are working on, and analysis of the humanoid showing that it was born to a Chilean woman and has a number of mutations/deformities which Greer tries to spin into something amazing. Also, lots and lots of new age woo to make sure mainstream audiences never take any of this stuff seriously.


"born to a Chilean woman " ? WTF?

That thing is no way any possible mutation, if they did DNA tests and came to that conclusion, I can only assume it's a work of taxidermy performed with a stillbirth or something. good lord :hrumph
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

Postby Simulist » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:25 pm

Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

I really have to wonder about this, too.

Because I continue to think that the anomalies which UFOs represent deserve serious attention. Tragically, most of the attention these anomalies have been given is anything but serious.

In fact, the attention UFOs have been given has, for the most part, reduced the entire question about them in the public mind to a depository for ridicule. This has been no accident, in my opinion — because it has been a very useful depository for ridicule for those who need one. (And, on the brighter side, for some of the few others who have simply been paying close attention.)
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2012?

Postby elfismiles » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:21 pm


Princeton Alumni Weekly
James W. Moseley '53
Published in the Apr. 3, 2013, issue

ImageLong before the movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind came out, Jim was preoccupied with outer space and unidentified flying objects, and when he died of esophageal cancer Nov. 16, 2012, in Key West, Fla., he was looked upon as an authority on those curiosities.

He was somewhat of a loner when he entered Princeton from Englewood School. His roommate of two years, John Leinfelder, recalls Jim would get into long philosophical discussions — some witty, some serious — about satellites. He left school after sophomore year and pursued his interest in UFOs and collecting South American antiques.

According to Conch Color, a Key West neighborhood newspaper sent by Lindsay Laird, Jim met his wife, Sandra Svendsen, in Greenwich Village, where they lived an alternative lifestyle and had one child, Elizabeth.

Jim founded Saucer News magazine in 1954, and when he moved to Key West in 1983, it was reported that he started another magazine, Saucer Smear, which he published irregularly until his death. Whether or not he actually believed in the existence of UFOs, he thought both sides of the story were “fascinating.” One thing his Key West friends believed: Jim was a colorful character.

Jim and Sandra divorced. He is survived by Elizabeth and seven grandchildren.

The Class of 1953

http://paw.princeton.edu/issues/2013/04 ... /index.xml


elfismiles wrote:
ImageThe Astounding UFO Secrets of James W. Moseley
A Special Tribute To The Editor Of ‘Saucer Smear’ And The Court Jester Of UFOlogy
http://www.amazon.com/Astounding-UFO-Se ... 606111442/

Got my copy of the book and LOVE-IT!!! Tributes to Supreme Commander Moseley from several UFOlks including Greg Bishop, Tim Beckley, Antonio Huneeus, George Hansen, Tim Brigham, Gene Steinberg, Allen Greenfield, Rick Hilberg, Ed Biebel, T. N. Hackney, Steamshovel Press's Kenn Thomas, Ed Komarek, FATE magazine's Phyllis Galde, and Adam Gorightly. PLUS, besides reprinting Jim Moseley's rare "UFO Crash Secrets at Wright Patterson Air Force Base" it also includes the full transcript of the 2010 interview Mack White and I did with Jim on our PsiOp-Radio show.
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

Postby 8bitagent » Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:14 am

Simulist wrote:
Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

I really have to wonder about this, too.

Because I continue to think that the anomalies which UFOs represent deserve serious attention. Tragically, most of the attention these anomalies have been given is anything but serious.

In fact, the attention UFOs have been given has, for the most part, reduced the entire question about them in the public mind to a depository for ridicule. This has been no accident, in my opinion — because it has been a very useful depository for ridicule for those who need one. (And, on the brighter side, for some of the few others who have simply been paying close attention.)


Prediction. In 2113, there still will not be a Time Magazine/CNN breaking news holy shit moment regarding UFOs or 'aliens'. There will be no moment like in M Night Shymalan's Signs where the family is gathered around the tv.
There will be periods of great anomalous/UFO activity worldwide, perhaps to a fever pitch. But I doubt we'll ever have definitive "proof". And thus the plausible deniability of whatever Forteana/mil op/whatchamacallits fall under "UFO"s and aliens will continue. A wink and a nod, for those with eyes to see and believe. I long ago came to believe that the military/black budget, hoax, swamp gas and "alien planet" origins of UFOs have become rather remote.
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

Postby 82_28 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:11 pm

Must read!

http://runesoup.com/2013/04/spook-tech- ... gy-part-3/

In 2010 I walked into a telecoms conference in Milan and saw a 3D television.

Not that impressive, you say? I wasn’t wearing glasses. But there, floating in front of the screen, was an animation of spaceships and asteroids and various other things.

This wasn’t a sexy telecoms conference either, with free waterslides and apps and cool new tablets. This was a boring telecoms conference about pipes and fiber to the home and such. And yet one of these boring pipe companies had built a 3D television for whatever reason.

Let me tell you another story about someone who isn’t me. SWIM works in digital media in London. He has regular dealings with a very, very large company that -as part of its remit to… let’s say… catalogue all the worlds information- is embarking on the greatest mapping project the world has ever known. And SWIM drinks regularly with people from this company. Late one night, SWIM heard a story. Prior to the release of the ocean component of their mapping project, this company summoned a bunch of diplomatic representatives from various governments to its London tower and put up some slides. Because this company had found some things. “Ladies and gentlemen… what’s this? And what are these? And… they’re in international waters. So which one of you owns them?”

I wonder about private companies that have extremely high capex, because there is nothing stopping them from building supervillain tech. What would you do with unlimited research money? Who knows what they have found? Sony found ESP, for instance.

As Richard Dolan points out, secrets develop their own momentum. You only need to look at how one little clandestine marital indiscretion snowballs out and collapses the whole partnership.

When that little lie is technology-based, it can snowball out into a completely separate world. Like when John D Rockefeller used Standard Oil (Nazi collaborators) to invest in (Nazi collaborator) Henry Ford’s motor company to build gasoline-powered cars rather than the more popular electric ones of the day, before buying up urban train systems, replacing them with buses and then eventually closing them down, building an unbreakable, hydrocarbon reich across much of the first world. (Among other crimes, in conjunction with their friends at the NaCIA.)


Read the rest. It's fairly lengthy with many twists and turns.

runesoup.com/2013/04/spook-tech-archonology-part-3/
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

Postby FourthBase » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:08 pm

So glad I took a rest from the rest of the board to read that.
That's the greatest, most mind-bending essay/article I've read in...years.
Reminds me of Jeff's best stuff; not as eloquent, but also not as doomtastic.
It's what I imagine a really enlightening LSD trip in written form would be.
And just richly, richly researched and substantiated.
Appropriate qualifiers abound in the foggy gaps.
And it just...smells like truth, weird truth.
Love the last few paragraphs, especially.

I think what Dr Braun is disclosing here is ‘The Plan’… but ‘The Plan’ is in tatters. As I interpret it, we can see this reflected in the recent events in Boston. The FBI has a long history of arming -only to disarm- deranged enemy assets. These ones appear to have gone off script. So is it ‘terrorism’ or is it a ‘false flag’? OR.. have we been lying down with dogs for so long that we can no longer distinguish where the canines end and the fleas begin? (Let me answer that for you… it’s the last one.)

Plans require cohesion and that is in short supply among the remaining orcs. Look at how quickly the intel connections came to light in Boston. Pardon the pun, but the plan behind the curtain has been revealed. Hence you should interpret the miraculous discovery of 9/11 airplane wreckage as a desperate bid to maintain the illusion of the much bigger lie. You can easily follow their thinking. If the whole world found and believes the intel connection to Boston, how long before our eyes turn to lower Manhattan?

The corporate race for the vast riches/possible alien tech floating out there in space will inevitably mean much of this will come tumbling out of the snowball and into the public domain without any official disclosure. They care less and less what you think. There is too much money at stake. You don’t even warrant the slightest nod of acknowledgement, just lies that get more and more absurd with each passing day.

We do not know what we do not know. Preventing our knowing, our gnosis, is becoming simultaneously more difficult and more important. That’s the good news.

The bad news is these orcs still have some fairly alarming toys and may get desperate enough to use them.


Spot on, archons or not.

Let's recognize the good news quick enough, well enough.
So that we can forbid them from giving us any bad news.

EVERYONE ON THIS BOARD SHOULD READ THAT ENTIRE ARTICLE.
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

Postby justdrew » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:13 pm

website is down. can't access it. been that way a couple hours at least.
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Re: Where is UFOlogy at in 2013?

Postby 82_28 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:22 pm

Seems to be back up.
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