US Presidential Election 2024

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Re: US Presidential Election 2024

Postby SonicG » Sun Aug 18, 2024 6:02 am

Some chatter about Harris being pushed out at the convention for Michelle Obama seem like wild rumors except for this little bit from AOC:
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AOC Claims Donor Class and Political Elites Reject Kamala Harris as 2024 Nominee

https://twitter.com/iLoveJaneAdams/stat ... 9159605322


Maybe that's why Kamala is drunk lately

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Has Kamala been drinking? The President and Vice President should be sober 24/7. No excuses. How can you make decisions in a time of emergency if you’re drunk?

Trump doesn’t drink alcohol. To be fair neither does Biden but Kamala is a wine enthusiast and former member of Congressional Wine Caucus. She sounds drunk in this video.
https://twitter.com/BrettDanner1/status ... 4488796385


To be fair the CWC is "one of the largest [caucuses] in Congress and brings together over 160 bipartisan, bicameral Members of Congress" and who could blame them. "Wine is bottled poetry" Robert Louis Stevenson
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Re: US Presidential Election 2024

Postby Belligerent Savant » Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:11 pm

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Trump has had 6 court battles to fight during this election, while we have 9 and counting across the country. By bringing these suits against political opponents, the Democrats bankrupt the underpinnings of democracy. What the Democrats consider common course to win elections is the kind of "normalcy" that leads to famine, sickness, and civil war. The country is ready for an administration that represents unity.


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Re: US Presidential Election 2024

Postby DrEvil » Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:18 pm

Wait, is she suggesting Trump and Vance represent unity? Does she have a brain-worm too?
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Re: US Presidential Election 2024

Postby Belligerent Savant » Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:17 pm

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The implication is that RFK Jr will be teaming up with Trump in some capacity, with an apparent cabinet slot if they win — reportedly.
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Re: US Presidential Election 2024

Postby SonicG » Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:22 pm

Shanahan has been floating the idea of RFK Jr. dropping out and throwing his weight, including the worm, behind Trump. Maybe get a cabinet position along with Musk. Shanahan is a Silicon Valley lawyer, married to a Google co-founder for a few years and has squishy left/Libertarian views...So by "Unity" I think she means the unification of the Peter Thiel/Elon Musk/Silicon Valley coalition in taking over Trump - well one half of Donnie, as the AIPAC/Adelson coalition has his other half...

Just as a sidenote, Shanahan's wacky personal/sex life:

In 2014, Shanahan married Jeremy Asher Kranz, a San Francisco Bay Area investor and finance executive.[3][63] They had dated since 2011.[10] Weeks before their marriage, she began an affair with Sergey Brin, a co-founder of Google, which Kranz discovered from texts on her phone.[10] Kranz and Shanahan divorced in 2015.[64] Shanahan had met Brin at a yoga festival in Lake Tahoe in 2014;[7] they married in 2018.[7][8] They have a daughter together,[2] born in 2018.[32] Brin and Shanahan maintained an estate at Point Dume in Malibu, California, purchased in 2020.[65]

Shanahan and Brin separated in December 2021,[2][66] and Brin filed for divorce in January 2022.[66] In 2022, the Wall Street Journal reported that a reason for the breakup was a "brief affair" in 2021 between Shanahan and Elon Musk.[66][63] Three people interviewed as part of a 2024 New York Times investigation said that Shanahan and Brin separated after Shanahan had a sexual encounter with Musk in 2021.[10] Shanahan[2] and Musk denied having had an affair.
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Re: US Presidential Election 2024

Postby Belligerent Savant » Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:07 pm

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Re: US Presidential Election 2024

Postby DrEvil » Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:02 pm

SonicG » Thu Aug 22, 2024 2:22 am wrote:Shanahan has been floating the idea of RFK Jr. dropping out and throwing his weight, including the worm, behind Trump. Maybe get a cabinet position along with Musk. Shanahan is a Silicon Valley lawyer, married to a Google co-founder for a few years and has squishy left/Libertarian views...So by "Unity" I think she means the unification of the Peter Thiel/Elon Musk/Silicon Valley coalition in taking over Trump - well one half of Donnie, as the AIPAC/Adelson coalition has his other half...

Just as a sidenote, Shanahan's wacky personal/sex life:

In 2014, Shanahan married Jeremy Asher Kranz, a San Francisco Bay Area investor and finance executive.[3][63] They had dated since 2011.[10] Weeks before their marriage, she began an affair with Sergey Brin, a co-founder of Google, which Kranz discovered from texts on her phone.[10] Kranz and Shanahan divorced in 2015.[64] Shanahan had met Brin at a yoga festival in Lake Tahoe in 2014;[7] they married in 2018.[7][8] They have a daughter together,[2] born in 2018.[32] Brin and Shanahan maintained an estate at Point Dume in Malibu, California, purchased in 2020.[65]

Shanahan and Brin separated in December 2021,[2][66] and Brin filed for divorce in January 2022.[66] In 2022, the Wall Street Journal reported that a reason for the breakup was a "brief affair" in 2021 between Shanahan and Elon Musk.[66][63] Three people interviewed as part of a 2024 New York Times investigation said that Shanahan and Brin separated after Shanahan had a sexual encounter with Musk in 2021.[10] Shanahan[2] and Musk denied having had an affair.


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Re: US Presidential Election 2024

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sun Sep 08, 2024 7:13 pm

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Our modern era.

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Aside from calling Dick Cheney a fascist, racist, war profiteering war criminal, liberals also claimed he only became Vice President because the Supreme Court stole the 2000 election for him.

Now they're all proclaiming that Cheney supports Kamala to save American democracy. :lol:

The point isn't Dems are hypocrites: hypocrisy is too pervasive in politics to bother denouncing it.

The point is that Cheney doesn't give a shit about "democracy." He supports Kamala because she'll serve his long-standing agenda better than Trump.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2024

Postby Belligerent Savant » Mon Sep 09, 2024 11:58 am

Dr. Jill Stein
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There is nothing more unifying to Democrats and Republicans than war.

The neoliberal political chattering class is gushing over @KamalaHarris' latest endorsement – the notorious and unrepentant war criminal, Dick Cheney.

Dick Cheney was the architect of the WMD lie that launched the Iraq war, spearheaded the use of torture as official US policy, and drove the decision to convert the US Naval base in Guantanamo Bay into a prison - among other crimes too long to list. Yet Kamala Harris is "honored" to have his endorsement as well as the endorsement of his daughter, Liz Cheney.

This endorsement is not an honor – it’s a warning bell.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2024

Postby SonicG » Thu Sep 12, 2024 8:05 am

"Oh but Cheney won't have any impact on Harris' policies..." Of course not, because they already basically align with each other. Now, the Democrats don't even have to bother tossing their crumbs of deception like being against torture or the death penalty or big money in politics or fracking and other environmental crimes. Vibes Fascism is going to drag the country into war, whether Iran or China, it doesn't matter at this point.
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Re: US Presidential Election 2024

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sun Sep 15, 2024 6:54 pm

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Will be interesting to observe if this story is:

A. Confirmed to be true, and if so
B. The amount of traction it receives in the mainstream.


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ABC News whistleblower swears under penalty of perjury that the Kamala Harris campaign dictated the terms of the questions during the presidential debate.

Furthermore, the Harris campaign insisted upon live "fact checking" of Donald Trump during the debate.

ABC News "fact checked" Trump at least five times and did not fact check Harris once, despite the Democratic candidate telling provable lies, such as the "fine people hoax" and the blo*dbath hoax."

The whistleblower signed the affidavit in New York and has sent a copy to Speaker Mike Johnson, the notarized document states.

The unnamed individual states that he or she is in possession of secret recordings that will prove that ABC News rigged the presidential debate.

ABC News committed election interference. This is a MASSIVE scandal.

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Notarized document.

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https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1835347966586171523

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If indeed this turns out to be true, which is looking increasingly likely, consider the character of the presidential candidate that would cheat in a debate, allowing her staff to negotiate the questions in advance, the camera angles, the required fact checking of her opponent, and the lack of fact checking of her own answers.

Also, consider what journalists — in this case David Muir and Linsey Davis — and the network that would agree to these conditions.

I thought it was bad when @KamalaHarris would only agree to a debate on a favored network with a friendly moderator.

If this is false, where are Muir and Davis’s public ‘over my dead body’ denials. And what does @abc have to say?

For the sake of journalism, I hope this is a fiction. Sadly for the state of truth in media, I expect the whistleblower’s allegations will be deemed to be true.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2024

Postby Elvis » Sat Sep 21, 2024 5:00 pm

It's a class war.
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Re: US Presidential Election 2024

Postby Elvis » Sat Sep 21, 2024 5:08 pm

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Re: US Presidential Election 2024

Postby Elihu » Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:05 pm

this really belongs in the war thread but thought i'd post it here they're so synergystic
The awkward meeting didn’t produce the ceremonial signing or the joint press conference.

It appears that the U.S. military leadership took Vladimir Putin's warning about this escalation seriously. His words are worth pondering carefully:

“There is an attempt to substitute concepts. Because we are not talking about authorizing or banning the Kiev regime from striking across the entire territory. They are already striking with the help of drones and other means. ... The Ukrainian army is not able to strike with modern long-range precision systems of Western manufacture. It cannot do this. It can only do so using intelligence from satellites, which Ukraine does not have. This is data only from EU satellites or from the United States in general, from NATO satellites. … And so this is not about allowing the Ukrainian regime to strike. It is about deciding whether NATO countries are directly involved or not. If this decision is made, it will mean nothing other than the direct participation of NATO countries, the United States, European countries in the war in Ukraine. This is their direct participation. And this already, of course, significantly changes the very essence, the nature of the conflict. This would mean that NATO, US and the European countries, the United States are at war with Russia. If that is the case, then bearing in mind the change in the very essence of this conflict, we will take appropriate decisions based on the threats that will be posed to us.”

According to some sources, Putin’s warning was reinforced through back-channel communications between the Russian military leadership and their American counterparts who understand that they were being pushed over the edge of total war. In response, it seems that the American military leadership took over the conduct of the US foreign policy, both in terms of military and diplomatic affairs. State Secretary Blinken and his merry band of Neocons appear to have been sidelined. This is why the US-UK agreement to escalate against Russia didn’t get the Blaster’s signature.

The change in leadership could also be felt in the Middle East. General Michael E. Kurilla, the head of U.S. Central Command visited Israel last week (the second time in a week's interval), apparently also to announce a new policy. Allegedly, he informed the Israelis that if they provoke a war against Hezbollah or against Iran, the U.S. will not come to their aid: they're on their own.

The palace coup at the White House wasn’t officially announced and it almost certainly won't be. We will probably only know of these changes with time, by observing the pattern of events. If the U.S. policy really changes course in a substantive way, this would corroborate that the coup did indeed take place. This may seem inconceivable, but it shouldn’t be. Secretary Blinken has been conducting a truly insane foreign policy, inflicting massive damage to the United States in material, strategic as well as reputational terms. Such conduct would unavoidably provoke disapproval and opposition within the ranks of the American defense and foreign policy establishments.

When Hitler’s general staff mutinied in 1938
The latest escalation, concocted with the British, would put the U.S. in severe jeopardy. The burden of coping with the resulting fallout would fall squarely on the military. At the same time, it remains unclear what, if anything, could be gained from Starmer's and Blinken's reckless adventurism. This is a textbook recipe for provoking a mutiny, and such mutinies do tend to happen at critical junctures throughout history.

For example, when, on 21 April 1938 Hitler ordered General Wilhelm Keitel to draft plans to invade Czechoslovakia, German military brass were deeply alarmed – so much so that a group of top commanders, clustered around Hitler’s Chief of the General Staff, General Ludwig Beck, hatched a three phase strategy to disrupt Hitler’s reckless pursuit: (1) they would try to dissuade Hitler from pursuing his plans; (2) they implored the British to stand firmly by Czechoslovakia and warn Hitler that Britain would oppose him; and (3) if Hitler persisted in his resolve to wage war, they would proceed to assassinate him. The date for this act was set for September 28, 1938.

Of course, General Beck and his General Staff had no idea that it was exactly the British who were maneuvering Germany to war (though not against Czechoslovakia but against the USSR), just as they are maneuvering the U.S. to war today. In fact, the most recent episode hopefully helped dispel the idea that the imperial adventures are all hatched in the U.S. and that the UK is only being dragged along reluctantly, their only fault being their unshakeable, steadfast loyalty.


recall frank zappa saying they'd take the illusion down and we'd see the brick wall back of the theatre. the illusion is really really thin right now, like frayed tissue paper. epoch changing disaster is in prospect i'd say
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Re: US Presidential Election 2024

Postby Elihu » Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:08 pm

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