barracuda wrote:Krysos wrote:Maybe it's a judgmental, dickish thing of me to do, but it's hard to take you seriously when you can't even use you're or their properly. It's got nothing to do with religion, but I'm not surprised to see that you're so limited in your thinking that you can't conceive of it being anything but. It's about how one group of people should not be forced to pay for the CHOICES other people CHOOSE to make. I have compassion for people that aren't able to control themselves enough to prevent themselves from becoming a burden to society whether it's from an inability to control their own procreation or through health issues caused by addiction or a simple inability to eat or drink anything besides soda and junk food. I'm not saying that these people should be left to die in the streets and not be provided medical care. Certainly their children deserve to be cared for more than some Wall Street dickbag deserves another tax break. But if the left in this country remains unable to see that there's plenty of compassionate and hardworking people that are middle class or working poor that are sick and tired of paying for the indulgences of others (and instead focus on gender and lifestyle issues), then they will continue to marginalize themselves.
Virtually all health care expenses in this country are the result of choices. What a lovely world it would be if everyone exercised for an hour a day, ate a largely vegetarian diet, lived a stress-free lifestyle, and got plenty of sleep each day. These are choices anyone can make, but few people do, and as a result you, Krysos, are forced by the socialist policies of your government to pay for expensive treatments and medicine all the time. If the idea of such socialist plundering of your hard-earned money is abhorrent to you, maybe the first thing you could do would be to examine your own behavior and eliminate unhealthy behaviors based upon personal choices. But unless you're interested in the government regulating the lifestyle choices you make in terms of exercise, vegetable intake, stress levels allowable, and sleep hours allotted, then you have very little real grounds to complain when they pay for any choice-based expenses. And none at all when the use of a medical treatment is part of a basic program of gynecology and women's health care like contraception.
Separating women's reproductive or gender-specific medical expenditures from the vast bulk of other health care (choice-related or otherwise) and the dispersal of those costs is how political parties swing vote blocs. It's nothing more than a tactic based upon using people's attitudes towards sex to polarize opinion. Don't fall for it.
No shit, Sherlock-do you really think it's only the party that's against abortion that uses this crap as a wedge issue? Do you have any idea how many burnt out boomer women are voting for Obama because of the so called war on women, yet haven't clue one about Israel, warrentless wiretaps, the 30 year trend against labor, outsourcing, etc.? Do you have any idea how many women out there support our middle eastern adventurism when Obama does it because Arabs are nothing but a bunch of swarthy women beaters? I don't know about you, but it SICKENS me to see women get suckered in by this bullshit every bit as much as it sickens me to see men support these wars because it's the macho thing to do.
