What is #Pizzagate?

[Project Willow]

Streetlight Effect

A policeman sees a drunk man searching for something under a streetlight and asks what the drunk has lost. He says he lost his keys and they both look under the streetlight together. After a few minutes the policeman asks if he is sure he lost them here, and the drunk replies, no, and that he lost them in the park. The policeman asks why he is searching here, and the drunk replies, "this is where the light is.

[barracuda]

This thread is about "pizzagate", not guruilla, yet every other post dissects him as if he's a lab rat.

1. Guruilla claims there is more to pizzagate than what the media acknowledges
2. Guruilla is not always politically correct
Therefore, pizzagate is nothing more than what the media acknowledges it is

1. D&C claims there is more to pizzagate than what the media acknowledges
2. D&C is a asshole moron who doesn't even know what a strip mall is.
Therefore, pizzagate is nothing more than what the media acknowledges it is

Rigorous intuition at it's best.

LMFAO

Thanks D & C. You just made my day.

It's actually more like this:

1. Guruilla whines that if people point out his bullshit, it is surely a conspiracy against him and the children.

2. Slavering sycophant charges in to defend and buttress guru.

3. Guru rewards his pet with emoticons, compliments, and other treats.

This activity is known as grooming, I believe.

If you work hard and are lucky, D&C, you might even win a mention on Horsley's blog, honor of honors, like
tapitsbo. Nose to the grindstone!

[barracuda]

Regarding poor old Rudy and/or his cyber doppelganger(s), either way he's an interesting choice of PG "whistleblower," considering his history, and surely too interesting to simply dismiss this latest article as "disinformation" & leave it at that (especially since if it is just disinfo, then it's potentially evidence for the defense).

I love it - "whether it's real or not, it shows pizzagate is true!"

Especially funny since you obviously posted it about 12 hours after the entire voat community had ID'ed the ridiculous screed as coming from a Trump-supporting fake account. Water-muddying: it's the name of the game, I guess.

[Iamwhomiam]

A Guru walks into a pizza shop and asks the man behind the counter to make him one with everything.

And the guy behind the counter pulled out an AR-15 and shot the Guru to death.

[Luther Blissett]

Streetlight Effect

A policeman sees a drunk man searching for something under a streetlight and asks what the drunk has lost. He says he lost his keys and they both look under the streetlight together. After a few minutes the policeman asks if he is sure he lost them here, and the drunk replies, no, and that he lost them in the park. The policeman asks why he is searching here, and the drunk replies, "this is where the light is.

This is it precisely!

[Iamwhomiam]

^^^ Indeed!

[tapitsbo]

why the rush to turn the "light" out everywhere though?

expand the light by all means?

[tapitsbo]

Buck's is a restaurant.

Now that the air's been cleared by my brother-beyond-the-pale, I guess we get to take a fun-break and look at the actual topic at hand! (Radical, isn't it). Funny how, after the general consensus that the CPP basement had been debunked, when evidence comes up that maybe it hasn't been so thoroughly debunked, after all, said evidence gets ignored; in favor of a discussion about pushing new enforcement of hate speech at RI. Hmmm.

I am starting to love this thread. Arguments by the defense are turning into evidence for the prosecution (so to speak, please don't take the legal metaphor too literally).

Regarding poor old Rudy and/or his cyber doppelganger(s), either way he's an interesting choice of PG "whistleblower," considering his history, and surely too interesting to simply dismiss this latest article as "disinformation" & leave it at that (especially since if it is just disinfo, then it's potentially evidence for the defense).

About Rudy, he was deeply enmeshed in the West Point Day Care Sexual Abuse Case with Ritual Abuse allegations:

The case began in 1984, when allegations surfaced of sexual and physical abuse of children at the West Point Child Development Center.
The incidents unfolded against a backdrop of satanic acts, animal sacrifices and cult-like behavior among the abusers, whose activities extended beyond the U.S. Military Academy borders to Orange County and a military base in San Francisco, parents charged.
The specter of satanism would later spur U.S. Military Academy officials to change the West Point child-care center’s building number from 666 to 673.
Despite 950 interviews by 60 FBI agents assigned to the investigation, an investigation led by former U.S. Attorney Rudolph Giuliani produced no federal grand jury indictments. The investigation did find “significant indications that children may have been abused” at the center.
Until now, no official reports or investigations have verified the sexual abuse.

...

Recalled Grote: “The tragedy is the abusers could have been caught . . . with a little imagination and a lot less chauvinistic narcissism on the part of West Point and the initial FBI investigator.”
Prosecutor Giuliani did not return calls last week. In 1987, Giuliani said his detailed investigation showed only one or two children were abused. The federal investigation cleared the center staff members accused by the children.
https://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/arti ... use-cases/

So yeah, someone who would know about the reality of this stuff; but not someone I'd expect to have an attack of conscience about it.

same as the ambiguity of the "kline" debunking

me, d and c, and guruilla are far from the only ones here who feel there's something to pizzagate...

[Luther Blissett]

why the rush to turn the "light" out everywhere though?

expand the light by all means?

The light was already expanding, pizzagate killed the switch on half the breakers.

[Wombaticus Rex]

A Guru walks into a pizza shop and asks the man behind the counter to make him one with everything.

And the guy behind the counter pulled out an AR-15 and shot the Guru to death.

...what the fuck is this, precisely?

[tapitsbo]

why the rush to turn the "light" out everywhere though?

expand the light by all means?

The light was already expanding, pizzagate killed the switch on half the breakers.

Maybe. If so, why?

The light was pretty dim insofar as we already knew about the "happy family" of Epstein/Trump/Clinton.

Imo because people buy into the thought-stopping techniques used to scupper pizzagate.

Time to expand the light to those.

I do realize you disagree.

[barracuda]

A Guru walks into a pizza shop and asks the man behind the counter to make him one with everything.

And the guy behind the counter pulled out an AR-15 and shot the Guru to death.

...what the fuck is this, precisely?

Absurdly counterproductive and threatening. Not very christmassy, either.

[Luther Blissett]

why the rush to turn the "light" out everywhere though?

expand the light by all means?

The light was already expanding, pizzagate killed the switch on half the breakers.

Maybe. If so, why?

The light was pretty dim insofar as we already knew about the "happy family" of Epstein/Trump/Clinton.

Imo because people buy into the thought-stopping techniques used to scupper pizzagate.

Time to expand the light to those.

I do realize you disagree.

I just think, hey there are already tons of real survivors with real stories, and those perpetrators and abusers and networks are still alive, out there, and in some cases still operating.

Project Willow's recent post that outlined real steps and efforts that could be taken for real survivors keeps coming back to me. This idea of creating safe houses since there are none especially. All of that advice should probably also go into the "nonviolent tactics" thread.

[tapitsbo]

Okay sounds very good and woke although most people aren't going to support any of that (they're unfortunately going to want to give people in safe houses antipsychotics because the things they say make them uncomfortable, I've heard this again and again from people who were held hostage by abusers and offered shelter only on this condition)

But how does it justify the denial that anything could possibly be going on with Pizzagate? Whoever that comes from, not you personally.

(some posters are alternatively saying Pizzagate crowdsourced investigation is misguided aren't denying there's probably something to the "flap")

[Cordelia]

A Guru walks into a pizza shop and asks the man behind the counter to make him one with everything.

And the guy behind the counter pulled out an AR-15 and shot the Guru to death.

...what the fuck is this, precisely?

Unusual black humor from Iamwhomiam.

(I sure wouldn't want to be a moderator--thanks Wombat!)