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Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio.
Gotta get down to it
Soldiers are cutting us down
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?
Gotta get down to it
Soldiers are cutting us down
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?
Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio.
11:11 wrote:At Kent State, people were not the mind controlled sheep that sat in that audience. Now we have people here reproach the victim for not being polite?! I grew up during the Vietnam war. The draft, along with having friends come home with a leg missing, or not come home at all, was quite mobilizing. Are stolen elections, rogue cops, treasonous senators and 9/11 not ENOUGH to mobilize THIS generation?
WAKE THE FUCK UP.
There's something happening here
What it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware
I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
/ E - A - / / / / E D A C /
There's battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
Young people speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind
I think it's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
What a field-day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and carrying signs
Mostly say, hooray for our side
It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away
We better stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
11:11 wrote:At Kent State, people were not the mind controlled sheep that sat in that audience. Now we have people here reproach the victim for not being polite?! I grew up during the Vietnam war. The draft, along with having friends come home with a leg missing, or not come home at all, was quite mobilizing. Are stolen elections, rogue cops, treasonous senators and 9/11 not ENOUGH to mobilize THIS generation?
WAKE THE FUCK UP.
ninakat wrote:Well, I finally broke down and watched the videos over at Raw Story -- they have three. The first one is with Tucker Carlson. I'd been putting off watching since I knew I'd be boiling mad, which I am right now, and ANYONE who says this guy was out of line is delusional. Animated, sure. What the fuck is wrong with that? He was actually amazingly civil toward John Kerry. He wasn't some lunatic who was out of control, which is how some people seem to want to characterize him.
At least Tucker and the reporter were somewhat on the victim's side, although Tucker was asking why handcuffs weren't enough. HANDCUFF'S? That implies that the guy was dangerous and a threat. HE WASN'T as the videos clearly show. Those "cops" disgusted me. And now they're suspended WITH PAY. FUCK THAT.
And yeah, 11:11:, we're the same age and grew up through Vietnam. People weren't afraid to speak out.
"Speak out. You've got to speak out against the madness.... you've got to speak your mind, if you dare." -- David Crosby
On September 29, tens of thousands of activists, community organizers, youth and students, veterans, military families, and health care activists will march on the White House to Demand: Cut off ALL War Funding! Fund People's Needs, NOT War!
FourthBase wrote:Marching to the White House in order to be a decontextualized soundbite halfway through people's evening news if you're lucky is not going to make even the tiniest fucking dent. If anything, it will just reinforce the perception that even when large numbers of people join together they are impotent to stop a war.
I mean, there are other places, other types of assembly and protest that might be more effective...and people just keep doing the cliche and trotting down to D.C.
THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING ELSE, BECAUSE MARCHING IN D.C. WON'T WORK TODAY.
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