The SPECTACLE IS PERMANENT (Formerly a Gary Webb thread)

[jingofever]

There were probably materials there that indict GHWBush for IranContra at the very least.

That is interesting. Several years ago I read that the Murrah building was often considered as a target for white supremacist terrorists, the reason being that is was a well represented federal building in the heart of aryan country. But I wonder if an FBI agent provocateur was suggesting it.

[brownzeroed]

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[Hugh Manatee Wins]

bz, I'm sticking with the legacy of Gary Webb here. USG drug smuggling and cover-up.
And I can do that while fending off Pan's and Jeff's eye-rolling.

Prove to me that "The Color Purple" or Star Trek's Captain Kirk are "keyword hijackings" related a Pearl Harbor LIHOP. Go ahead. I'll give you $250 if you can. Seriously. Prove it and I'll send you a nice check. I'll even send you $20 if you make a plausible argument backed up by facts.

Please.

How about you tell us what the Psychological Strategy Board was set up to do in 1951.

Give us your proof that the WWII Office of War Information's command of Hollywood
stopped completely despite movies being tremendously effective forms of conditioning.

Tell us that the widespread journalist psy-ops system exposed in the 1975 Senate Church Committee hearings doesn't continue and doesn'r show governance through media as proven.

Tell us how marketing and psy-ops are nothing alike.

And how the fuck did we get from Gary Webb to this nonsense?

Webb's career was ended because of his truth-telling about a topic that is very dangerous to the myths used to evoke allegiance to America the Beautiful.
Social cohesion and allegiance to authority are carefully protected as national security assets using moral stereotypes in psy-ops media.

The Dangerous Other of Communism was replaced with Drugs (now "radicalization") as the greatest threat to our sacred children that Uncle Sam would protect by chewing away the US Constitution.

Spooks and spook assets like Bob Woodward (news) and Steven Spielberg (entertainment) help cover up USG scandals and dilute 'subversive' language with their own mass-marketed versions.

Every trick in the book is used to hide from kids the truth that drugs finance US policies.
So the moral theater propaganda around drugs is the circus, not my exposure of it.

The USG drug cover-up is repeating the post-Alfred McCoy 'Politics of Heroin' 1972 expose that led to 1973's misdirection themes that 'the Mafia dunnit' (The French Connection) and 'Harlem niggas dunnit' that showed up in the James Bond movie, 'Live and Let Die.'

Today we have Denzel Washington in 'American Gangster' which is allegedly based on an Operation Mockingbird interview with a 'black gangsta' who claims to be the one who used the bodies of Vietnam soldiers to ship heroin back to the states.

Get it? Not CIA. It's those eeeevil darkies. Rerun of stereotypes as misdirection.
Because crucifying Barry Bonds is not enough to restore pre-Katrina hostility to America's poor, a demographic represented in psy-ops media as dangerous or lazy or cheating...people of color.

"Don't do drugs, kids. That's the wrong way to support your government."

[Jeff]

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Here's my best offer. I won't go any lower.

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THANK GOODNESS people like Naomi Wolf has fully come out for 9/11 truth, if anything to wake the left from their absolute slumber.

Whoa, I had not heard that! Do you have a link?

Maybe he's talking about this?

http://www.911blogger.com/blog/2153

It's not fully coming out though, and the Clinton apologetics makes me ill ...

Still, go Wolf! I've been sending her around to the folks that are too closed off to hear this stuff from other sources...

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

HMW wrote-
"I was just rereading Webb's 'Dark Alliance' and was stunned to finally notice that there was material on pages 331-339 that suggested just why the Federal Building in Oklahoma City was rigged for demolition with the fertilizer bomb being cover.

There were probably materials there that indict GHWBush for IranContra at the very least.

I hope RI readers are reading their books, too."

Whoah, OKC 1995 is referenced as a possible inside job in Gary Webb's book????

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Webb does not say anything about OKC as an inside job in 'Dark Alliance.'
He does tell of how OKC feds accidentally got embroiled in CIA ops and had to extract themselves from that swamp.

What I found on those pages was reference to:
> OKC ATF
>OKC federal prosecutor Stephen Korotash
>OKC US attorney William Price
>Asst. U.S. Attorney General William Weld
...all getting involved in the accidental discovery that Bo Gritz and Steven Weekly, who were training Mujahadeen for CIA out in the desert, had...
...transported 200 pounds of C4 explosive on two commercial planes.

So the CIA-Afghanistan terrorist/IranContra connection that goes up to GHWBush was nearly exposed in late 1986 and got woven into the Oklahoma City federal beaurocracy and had to be capped at the time.

My hunch-
Surely eliminating those records and reversing that 'explosive meme,' a counter-propaganda tactic, was very helpful when that federal building came down in 1995, just like the elimination of the budget people at the Pentagon and the SEC's corporate criminal records at WTC 7.

[Et in Arcadia ego]

This thread for rent.

Here's my best offer. I won't go any lower.

Haha, that pic is the best! I used it as an avatar on one of my other admin's at VS.

[jingofever]

[brownzeroed]

How about you tell us what the Psychological Strategy Board was set up to do in 1951.

Give us your proof that the WWII Office of War Information's command of Hollywood
stopped completely despite movies being tremendously effective forms of conditioning.

Tell us that the widespread journalist psy-ops system exposed in the 1975 Senate Church Committee hearings doesn't continue and doesn'r show governance through media as proven.

Tell us how marketing and psy-ops are nothing alike.

What makes you think "Hollywood" only serves American Interests?

Of course the "government" asserts influence through "the media". And corporations assert influence through the government. And shareholders assert influence through the corporations. And shareholders are influenced by the world around them, including "The Media" "The Government" and corporations; among other things, like "the market", "the people", "the good guys", "bad guys",etc. Call it whatever you like.

It's a seven headed hydra with seven different brains and each with seven different wives, and each of those parties want something different...

In your honor Hugh, as I'm standing before the firing squad, and as the bullet comes hurtling toward me, I'll make sure to name it.


Jeff:

Here's my best offer. I won't go any lower.

Sold American!

ON EDIT: Jingo fever deserves a minority interest.

[professorpan]

How about you tell us what the Psychological Strategy Board was set up to do in 1951.

"Directive to: the Secretary of State, The Secretary of Defense, The Director of Central Intelligence: It is the purpose of this directive to authorize and provide for the more effective planning, coordination and conduct, within the framework of approved national policies, of psychological operations. There is hereby established a Psychological Strategy Board responsible, within the purposes and terms of this directive, for the formulation and promulgation, as guidance to the departments and agencies responsible for psychological operations, of over-all national psychological objectives, policies and programs, and for the coordination and evaluation of the national psychological effort.

The Board will report to the National Security Council on the Board's activities and on its evaluation of the national psychological operations, including implementation of approved objectives, policies, and programs by the departments and agencies concerned. The Board shall be composed of: a. The Undersecretary of State, the Deputy Secretary of Defense, and the Director of Central Intelligence, or, in their absence, their appropriate designees; b. An appropriate representative of the head of each such other department or agency of the Government as may, from time to time, be determined by the Board. The Board shall designate one of its members as Chairman. A representative of the Joint Chiefs of Staff shall sit with the Board as its principal military adviser in order that the Board may ensure that its objectives, policies and programs shall be related to approved plans for military operations..."

Can I have my candy bar now, mister?

Give us your proof that the WWII Office of War Information's command of Hollywood stopped completely despite movies being tremendously effective forms of conditioning.

First, you'd have to define "command of Hollywood," which in your view means minute, pervasive manipulation of everything from casting actors for keyword value of their names alone to the placement of dog movies on store shelves to deflect attention from the trial of an Abu Ghraib dog handler.

The OWI was abolished in 1945. If you suggest it still exists, then it's up to you to provide proof -- it's not up to me to prove a negative.

Tell us that the widespread journalist psy-ops system exposed in the 1975 Senate Church Committee hearings doesn't continue and doesn'r show governance through media as proven.

Are there journalists in the employ of the CIA? Of course. Does the CIA control the placement of stories on Yahoo!'s front page to facilitate "keyword hijacking"? Nope. Unless you can prove it, it's simply a theory with no support.

That's another irritating trait of yours -- you can't imagine shades of control, or understand how someone can acknowledge CIA meddling in media, but no accept the depth of control that you believe exists.

Tell us how marketing and psy-ops are nothing alike.

Of course marketing and psyops are alike -- they are both designed to influence human behavior. But your leap -- that marketing IS a PSYOP, run by intelligence agencies and regularly hijacking keywords -- has no support whatsoever.

Bzzzzt. 3 strikes, you're out.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

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What makes you think "Hollywood" only serves American Interests?

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Good point. Just like the bogus 'War on Terra,' the themes promoted by Hollywood serve a number of power interests, financial and political.

Almost all governments want their citizens to be medicated with happy pills of some kind to keep them productive and not angrily charging the castle with pitchforks and also to take advantage of the handles on behavior that stereotypes create.

Wouldn't want the masses to not have handles that psy-ops can latch onto like velcro.

Relating this to 'The Legacy of Gary Webb'-

When the latest 'Miami Vice' movie was in production, Venezuela's Hugo Chavez vowed to begin a Venezuelan film industry. Guess he saw the American psy-ops in the narrative of American cops fighting those eeeeevil South American drug-pushers.

And that's what the TV show, 'Miami Vice,' did from 1984-1989, provided pop media misdirection cover for Vice President George HW Bush's narco-terrorism.

And then it gets really weird, G. Gordon Liddy had a role on this show.
Art imitates life, just like I'm sayin'--

[annie aronburg]

When the latest 'Miami Vice' movie was in production, Venezuela's Hugo Chavez vowed to begin a Venezuelan film industry. Guess he saw the American psy-ops in the narrative of American cops fighting those eeeeevil South American drug-pushers.

And that's what the TV show, 'Miami Vice,' did from 1984-1989, provided pop media misdirection cover for Vice President George HW Bush's narco-terrorism.

How do you explain this? I'm pretty sure FZ wasn't keen on shilling for Poppy. He did have a few things in common with Don Johnson though....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--a5of3n2X0

The many headed hydra of Hollywood, multiple masters and agendae being served there, not just the Evil American Empire.

I love LA!


Annie Aronburg

[brownzeroed]

Hugh:

Almost all governments want their citizens to be medicated with happy pills of some kind to keep them productive and not angrily charging the castle with pitchforks and also to take advantage of the handles on behavior that stereotypes create.

Now here's where I travel into "wacky" realms. I actually believe that the idea of a Nation State (as it stands today) is a fallacy, in itself.

Example: According to Paul Manning -- in Martin Bormann, Nazi in Exile --, in mid-1944 all the heads of industrial and economic interests of Germany met in Alsace-Lorraine and devised a "flight capital" strategy for post-war survival. It immediately went into effect. Within a year, these "captains of industry" succeeded in sneaking out about $80 billion worth of assets, patents and cash. BTW: the $80 bn is by WWII standards.
They were immediately welcomed world-wide by the tune of 500,000 individuals and roughly 3000 companies (in "neutral" and "opponent" countries alike). Their money was welcome, they were allowed to purchase majority stock in numerous corporations and, as a result, were given safe haven (and sometimes new-found authority) in whatever country they desired -- including the U.S..

In brief, I think pointing the finger at this or that government is short-sided and missing the over all picture. It's a game we aren't even remotely privy to.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

When the latest 'Miami Vice' movie was in production, Venezuela's Hugo Chavez vowed to begin a Venezuelan film industry. Guess he saw the American psy-ops in the narrative of American cops fighting those eeeeevil South American drug-pushers.

And that's what the TV show, 'Miami Vice,' did from 1984-1989, provided pop media misdirection cover for Vice President George HW Bush's narco-terrorism.

How do you explain this? I'm pretty sure FZ wasn't keen on shilling for Poppy. He did have a few things in common with Don Johnson though....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--a5of3n2X0
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OMG. Frank Zappa playing a guest villain on 'Miami Vice!'
And using Frank-isms, too. "He stole my weasel-dust." lol.

Zappa was very anti-drug and often said that it was in the government's interest to have youth dumb and docile and drugged.

He had a song called 'Cocaine Decisions' that suggested that a whole middle class of decision-makers was coked up and making fast dumb moves as a result.

So he was probably encouraged to see 'Miami Vice' for the anti-drug cover it was.
But when you play a villain on TV, it sticks with you in the minds of those who don't know you. Bad move.

Even Zappa got used. Damn.

Activist Danny Glover just made the same mistake by playing a corrupt Republican politician on a TV show. Glover is smart and thinks it is good to portray Republicans that way. But the audience is not as savvy and Glover has now put the subliminal stink on himself and people who look kinda sorta like him...like maybe...Obama.

Stay away from TV fiction, people. It ain't good for truth-tellers.

[Et in Arcadia ego]

But the audience is not as savvy and Glover has now put the subliminal stink on himself and people who look kinda sorta like him...like maybe...Obama.

Oh, ffs..