The most mindblowing documentary Ive ever seen

[theeKultleeder]

So now, maybe you will stop hacking about freemasons for a bit. That's exactly the stuff that we study.

Ohhh!!!! But you can't tell us.

Wanna join my masonarchist lodge? Too bad, no members allowed.

[Joe Hillshoist]

Ugh. Goro Adachi.

Yeah I know, its pretty funny. Or insane.



freemason9, I read a book once called the worm ouroboros.

Pretty bent book actually. It was before I started tripping, but I'd love to read it again.

It pops up everywhere the old ouroborous (I reckon thats how it should be spelt, tho someone who gets germatria can feel free to correct me) worm.

I'm sure it looks like a double helix would when viewed from above (or below).

Among its many other traits.

[philipacentaur]

Did I mention that it's good to have you posting again, J.? If not, here it is.

Anyway, have you ever seen Goro Adachi use his babble for predictive purposes? I haven't. I guess you could see it as a novel way to study a bunch of unrelated things, but even then it's a poor way to learn anything.

[Joe Hillshoist]

Cheers phil. I just went to my olds for a holiday and only went online once for about 20 minutes. Thats why I haven't been around.

People like Goro Adachi make me cringe. I think, I'm sort of into the same stuff, (well only in that I'm into weirdness and all that), yet look at this wanker. I never want to sound like that.

As far as prediction goes, Tarot, Runes, I Ching and all the rest are already there, if you want to get into it use those systems. But all they do is actually find a symbolic way of structuring the universe according to the "forces" or energies at play (I ching uses basic yin and yang, or receptive and insertive energy, and builds a complex structure around the interplay of those two processes).

Any prediction done with them is actually just using the connection between the individual and the universe to allow the individual to build a picture of the way the processes interact in regard a specific issue.

Any details are irrelevent.

making accurate predictions about the details of future events is probably best done by observation and simply thinking about stuff, and in many cases using maths and modelling.

IMO anyway.

Stuff like Goro Adachi does is (Imo) ego tripping bullshit.

On some level everything is connected but running around finding a bunch of tenuous connections between your favorite obsessions of the moment in a vain attempt to impress people with your esoteric knowledge and adeptness is juvenille and bound to be wrong anyway.



Hows that for a sentence.

[mentalgongfu2]

So is the gist of his presentation that 2012 is an Expiration Date for our small blue marble?

Wombaticus - no. He says in the video he picked 2012 simply because it is a popular endtime date.

[marmot]

One question, though . . . I don't think that I recall the ouroboros being addressed, although it was in the title. And that is a very important item.

Anyone?

"The Milky Way Galaxy is the inspiration for the symbol of the Ouroboros. Myth refers to a serpent of light residing in the heavens. The Milky Way is this serpent, and viewed at galactic central point near sagittarius, this serpent eats its own tail."



"The Milky Way galaxy keeps a great time cycle that ends in catastrophic change. The sign of the SUNTELIA AION is the sun rising out of the mouth of the ouroboros, which will occur on the solstice December 2012."

"2012 The End of the Age The Greeks called the End of the Age the SUNTELIA AION Ancient historians and especially Plato referred to a cycle of catastrophe at the End of the Age. The AION was symbolized by the Ouroboros."


http://www.mt.net/~watcher/

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

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On some level everything is connected but running around finding a bunch of tenuous connections between your favorite obsessions of the moment in a vain attempt to impress people with your esoteric knowledge and adeptness is juvenille and bound to be wrong anyway.
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Good to see you posting again, too, Joe. Seconded.

I agree with your above excerpt only when amateurs and drama addicts play with memes for ego-gratification or self-amusement or in a muddled response to our primate survival imperative to understand patterns.

BUT.

The alphabet agency psy-ops professionals DO use fuzzy logic and subliminal semantic associations to coax perceptions and offer escape paths away from dark truths into less disturbing cognitions.

And this national insecurity state psy-ops science DOES use "tenuous connections" to stay under the liminal radar and in the less-filtered subconscious areas of the brain, precisely the areas between our ears that are most successfully infiltrated.

That's what I've found from comparing scandal keywords and themes to pop media.
Thanks for that pitch. Felt good off the bat.

"Radiant heat kills." Words to live by.

[Joe Hillshoist]

Cheers mate.

I was referring specifically to people who like to think their specific knowledge of weirness is correct.

We all look for patterns all the time, but what I get annoyed at (even when i do it myself, or especially then) is forming patterns and not critically assessing them constantly.

I spose some people would say thats what you do with KH btw but that wasn't what I met. I would never lump your ideas in with the likes of goro adachi, even when I think you are off the track.

[OnoI812]

[8bitagent]

So is the gist of his presentation that 2012 is an Expiration Date for our small blue marble?

No really. The 2012 thing isnt really mentioned til the end, and maybe he should have not even gone into the 2012 thing.

The basic premise is that sacred geometry seems to be the key to everything, with 19.47, 33, etc playing significant numbers...the bigger theme was the Sirius star, the 12 signs of the zodiac, the placement of monolithic stone/pyramid sites worldwide, the secret destiny of america as foretold by Manly P Hall, ancient Sumer/Cedonia, and where crop circles/greys/etc fit

I haven't seen those vids yet 8bit, but re 2012...

Given your hypothesis about non human entities controlling certain things (something I don't actually believe, tho I would be prepared to accept that non human entities try to control things, through humans, cos they can't on their own), what do you think the deal is with 2012?

2012 has become one of those hokey, cliche numbers like 666 and 13(or within para politic circles: 33)

I think there may be something to it that folks havent been able to figure out yet, least not us "lamen".

as movies continued over the next 30 or so years certan images became stronger and more powerful via movies. Particularly collapsing building and evil terrorists. And stuff wih planes.

The patient sigil of dark ideas woven around us for decades, building up to the elite's high holy holiday of "9/11"(hence why I believe the emergency number 911 was chosen)

11 years after Bush Sr's nwo speach to the day, 11 years before 2012...flight 11 striking the 11 shaped towers on the 11th of september...with the freedom tower rising on 3000 souls in 2012.

[8bitagent]

So now, maybe you will stop hacking about freemasons for a bit. That's exactly the stuff that we study. The presentation was good, but fractured. It's a lot of information to pack into such a short span.

One question, though . . . I don't think that I recall the ouroboros being addressed, although it was in the title. And that is a very important item.

Anyone?

The serpent devouring its end theme throughout the ages, and represented in the cosmos was talked about for a whole segment, I think it was in the last parts of it. Very intriguing, this idea of a area of the milky way as the ouroboros, as a measuring of time...trippy But yeah, it was quite a bit to pack into an hour. Im curious if any of the info he mentions checks out?

But yeah the premise of the talk was pretty much that the earth is on some sort of clock, and roswell and mars may be significant

[freemason9]

So now, maybe you will stop hacking about freemasons for a bit. That's exactly the stuff that we study. The presentation was good, but fractured. It's a lot of information to pack into such a short span.

One question, though . . . I don't think that I recall the ouroboros being addressed, although it was in the title. And that is a very important item.

Anyone?

The serpent devouring its end theme throughout the ages, and represented in the cosmos was talked about for a whole segment, I think it was in the last parts of it. Very intriguing, this idea of a area of the milky way as the ouroboros, as a measuring of time...trippy But yeah, it was quite a bit to pack into an hour. Im curious if any of the info he mentions checks out?

But yeah the premise of the talk was pretty much that the earth is on some sort of clock, and roswell and mars may be significant

Thanks for the non-schizoid response. I've heard that theory before, but it doesn't feel quite rite. When I look at an ouroboros, I see something more subtle. Heat death, maybe.

[theeKultleeder]

Thanks for the non-schizoid response. I've heard that theory before, but it doesn't feel quite rite. When I look at an ouroboros, I see something more subtle. Heat death, maybe.

Quite... "rite" a Freudian slip or a joke?

Just kidding

The snake eating its own tail - quite a manifold symbol. The cycle of life and death.

A paradox.

Cosmic revolutions.

Gnosticism

In Gnosticism, this serpent symbolized eternity and the soul of the world.

[edit] Christianity

Christianity adopted the ouroboros as a symbol of the limited confines of the material world (that there is an "outside" being implied by the demarcation of an inside), and the self-consuming transitory nature of a mere "worldly existence" of this world, following in the footsteps of the preacher in Ecclesiastes 3:9-14...

In alchemy, the ouroboros is a purifying sigil. Swiss psychologist Carl Jung saw the ourobouros as an archetype and the basic mandala of alchemy. Jung also defined the relationship of the ouroboros to alchemy:[4]

The alchemists, who in their own way knew more about the nature of the individuation process than we moderns do, expressed this paradox through the symbol of the uroboros, the snake that eats its own tail. ouroboros, has been said to have a meaning of infinity or wholeness. In the age-old image of the uroboros lies the thought of devouring oneself and turning oneself into a circulatory process, for it was clear to the more astute alchemists that the prima materia of the art was man himself. The uroboros is a dramatic symbol for the integration and assimilation of the opposite, i.e. of the shadow. This 'feed-back' process is at the same time a symbol of immortality, since it is said of the uroboros that he slays himself and brings himself to life, fertilises himself and gives birth to himself. He symbolises the One, who proceeds from the clash of opposites, and he therefore constitutes the secret of the prima materia which [...] unquestionably stems from man's unconscious.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros

Wanna know what I see in it? The unending circular logic of the intellect forever turning around and around in on itself.

[Joe Hillshoist]

Wanna know what I see in it? The unending circular logic of the intellect forever turning around and around in on itself.

Good call.

[slimmouse]

a hefty thanks for this stuff 8-bit.

Im gonna post this thread as a link in the data dump to the stuff I already know about 19.47.

Meanwhile for any sceptics. That crop circle and all the related mathematics;

Would the PTB truly waste their fucking time engaging the 0.00000000001% of the population who can get their heads around this stuff, or would the gatekeepers of the lizards be more likely to be the likes of Chomsky, Chip Berlet, et cetera, et cetera ?

Indeed would they be capable of producing such a work of universal art ?

One things for sure. It wasnt fucking doug and dave