Man Found Dead in Lake Claimed FBI Tracked Him (Austin)

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Postby Nordic » Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:52 pm

I seriously thought that first photo was of Billy Bob Thornton.

And that the poster was perhaps from some movie, a prop.

Interesting stuff. This case has always given me a really queasy feeling in my stomach.

What a way to go. And then have it labelled a "suicide". Ghost stories are made of such.
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Postby Sweejak » Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:39 pm

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Postby American Dream » Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:18 pm

Nordic wrote:
Wow, this is right up there with Gary Webb "suiciding" himself by shooting himself in the head TWICE.

How stupid do they think we are?

Oh wait. Never mind.

Searcher08 wrote:
We will find that he bound his hands behind his back with duct tape THEN slashed his wrists (Casolaro-ed himself) THEN shot himself in the head TWICE (Webb-ed himself).

Anyone who thinks there is a problem with this is an America-hating enemy of freedom, a conspiracy theorist freak who should be sent to Gitmo for treason.


Here are some comments that Virginia McCullough had in regards to this. I know she was working closely with Danny Casolaro- not sure about any personal association with Gary Webb.

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Virginia McCullough wrote:
What bothers me about people who have their own agenda is that they hurt others in their attempt to prove their own version of the world.

The preceding are two good examples:

Danny Casolaro was a vital, intelligent, caring, compassionate young man who was very close to his mother and his siblings. I truly believe that he was killed in exactly the same manner that “they” attempted to kill CIA operative Ron Rewald. The technique is identical and MR refers to it as a “CIA wet job”. FBI agent Tom Gates who tangled with Robert Booth Nichols also believed that Danny had been executed and Gates went on the Congressional record to say so. However, Danny was an individual who lived a vital, curious, courageous life and was loved by many people. He should not be reduced to a summary like (Casolaro-ed himself). He is far more than the way he died.

Gary Webb clearly died by his own hand. He left detailed farewell notes to his former wife, his two sons and his daughter. At the memorial his brother spoke of Gary’s determination to finish everything he started. The coroner (who is always second guessed in any death determination) also said there were other instances when people had shot themselves or been shot themselves twice in the head and survived. Before the memorial I phoned 18 different county sheriffs’ departments in California and four said they had similar suicides to Gary’s in their counties, so clearly it is possible. Several months after Gary’s memorial Gary’s oldest son Ian, wrote to several journalists who had written articles that said Gary had been murdered because of a new manuscript he was writing and Ian asked them to delete their articles from the web because every time someone sent the family these articles the wound of grief was torn open again. I heard from several of these journalists who asked me to explain my reasoning for writing that Gary committed suicide. I will email you one such discussion I had with a lady in Mass. In any case, Gary, like Casolaro, led a courageous life trying to the best of his ability to write about what happened in our government’s “drug war”. He should not be reduced to how he died by terms like (Webb-ed himself).
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Postby MinM » Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:50 am

Image Democracy Now! ‏@democracynow: FBI Urged to Reopen Probe Into 1985 Assassination of Arab-American Leader Alex Odeh in California http://owl.li/pUrWK @adctweets

AlicetheKurious » Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:03 pm wrote:Who said anything about agencies?
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The JDL was suspected in two high-profile murders over the years. One came in 1972 when a bomb exploded in impresario Sol Hurok’s Manhattan office on Jan. 26. The explosion killed his receptionist, Iris Kones, 27, while Hurok and 12 others were injured. The JDL was suspected because Hurok was bringing Soviet performers to the United States.6

The next year, Jerome Zeller, an American JDL member, was indicted on charges of planting the bomb at Hurok’s office. He had since moved to Israel and his extradition was requested. Israeli authorities arrested the American expatriate but released him on $1,200 bail. He later was wounded in the 1973 war. Afterwards, the U.S. again requested extradition, but the response was, said U.S. Attorney Joseph Jaffe, who prosecuted the case, “You can...hold your breath until you die cause you ain’t going to get him because he’s a national hero.” Zeller was later reported living in the occupied West Bank among militant settlers...

The other high-profile murder came in 1985, on Oct. 11, when Alex Odeh, 37, regional director of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC) in Santa Ana, California, was killed by a bomb planted at his office. Odeh had appeared the previous night on a television show and called Yasser Arafat a “man of peace.” The Jewish Defense League praised the bombing but denied involvement, its usual practice in such incidents.8

One of the suspects was Robert Manning, 36, of Los Angeles, a JDL member. He and his wife, Rochelle, moved to Israel, where he joined the Israel Defense Forces. FBI agents said Manning and others were also suspected of being involved in a year-long series of violent incidents in 1985 including the August house-bomb slaying of Tscherim Soobzokov, of Paterson, N.J., a suspected Nazi war criminal; the Aug. 16 attempted bombing of the Boston ADC office in which two policemen were severely wounded; the September bombing at the Brentwood, Long Island home of alleged Nazi Elmars Sprogis, in which a 23-year-old passerby lost a leg, and the Oct. 29 fire at the ADC office in Washington, DC, which was called arson.9

By December 1985, FBI Director William H. Webster warned that Arab Americans had entered a “zone of danger” and were targets of an unnamed group seeking to harm the “enemies of Israel.”10

Manning and his wife lived in the radical Kiryat Arba settlement in Israel’s occupied West Bank until March 25, 1991 when, after two years of pressure, Israel acceded to U.S. extradition demands.11

The case caused critics to charge U.S. media bias against Arabs, noting that a week earlier the killing of American Jew Leon Klinghoffer aboard the hijacked Achille Lauro received heavy media coverage. They pointed out The New York Times devoted 1,043 column inches to Klinghoffer while devoting only 14 inches to Odeh’s death.12

Israeli police finally arrested the Mannings on March 24, 1991. Although strongly suspected in the Odeh murder, they were charged in a separate suit involving the 1980 letter-bomb murder of California secretary Patricia Wilkerson. [13] Robert Manning, but not his wife, was eventually extradited to the United States on July 18, 1993, and was found guilty on Oct. 14, 1993, of complicity in the Wilkerson murder.14

On Feb. 7, 1994, Manning was sentenced to life in prison.15 His wife died of a heart attack on March 18, 1994, in an Israeli prison while awaiting extradition.16

Meanwhile, Kahane had moved to Israel in 1971 and immediately became an outspoken advocate for the “transfer” of all Palestinians. His unabashed public voicing of a subject that Israelis had spoken about only privately for so long earned him instant popularity among the most radical of Israelis. He founded the Kach Party. Kach in Hebrew means “Thus!” and Israelis understood that the party’s name referred to the use of violence to ethnically cleanse the land. By 1984 Kahane was popular enough to win a seat in the 120-seat Knesset under the Kach banner.17

At the same time Kahane retained his U.S. passport, which he used frequently to keep in touch with his followers in the JDL in America.18

In October 1985, the State Department declared Kahane was no longer a U.S. citizen based on his acceptance of a Knesset seat and his statement that he had retained his citizenship only as a matter of convenience.19 However, Federal Judge Leo I. Glasser ruled in 1987 that Kahane could not be deprived of his U.S. citizenship since Americans are allowed dual citizenship.20

When Kahane appeared in the Knesset to take his oath, 2,000 demonstrators protested and a number of lawmakers denounced him.21 Within a year, however, Kahane was described by The New York Times as the most talked-about political figure in Israel whose popularity was soaring, especially among young voters.22 A September 1985 poll showed that Kahane’s popularity had increased to the point that if elections had been held at the time, his party would have received 10 seats in the Knesset, making Kach a significant political force.23

Such popularity of Kahane’s racist views was disturbing to liberal Israelis, and particularly to their U.S. supporters, who for so long had portrayed Palestinians as racists out to get rid of Jews. Now Kahane was giving Zionism’s critics powerful proof that Israel was a racist state. On Oct. 17, 1988, Israel’s High Court of Justice ruled that Meir Kahane’s political party was ineligible to take part in elections because it was “racist” and “undemocratic.”24 It was the first time in Israel’s history that a political party had been outlawed. Polls at the time showed that Kach would have likely received three to four seats in the coming November elections.25

Kahane’s end came in 1990 at the age of 58. He was shot dead on Nov. 5, 1990 in New York City in a midtown hotel.26 The suspect was El Sayyid A. Nosair, 34, an Egyptian-born Muslim who was a naturalized American living in Cliffside Park, N.J. He was a graduate of Egypt’s Hilwan University and worked as an air conditioning repairman for New York City. Police said Nosair had been under psychiatric care and taking anti-depressant drugs.27

Nosair was acquitted by a Manhattan jury on Dec. 21, 1991, but on Jan. 17, 1996 he was sentenced to a life term after he was convicted in a new trial of involvement in the assassination and also of conspiracy to commit terrorism with Egyptian Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman, the alleged mastermind of the [1993] World Trade Center bombing.28

As many as 30,000 mourners attended Kahane’s funeral in Brooklyn on Nov. 6, 1990, hailing him as “a pillar of Zion” and “a prophet who has fallen for the sacred land.” They carried placards reading “Death to all Arabs” and “Revenge.” Said Sol Margolis, president of Kach International, the U.S. arm of Kahane’s party in Israel: “There will be revenge. We believe in revenge.”29

The next day in Jerusalem, on Nov, 7, some 15,000 persons held a four-hour funeral procession, shouting “death to the Arabs.”30

In mid-November, 10 persons received letters threatening violence in revenge for Kahane’s death. They included Columbia University Professor Edward Said, Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan and Clovis Maksoud, former U.N. ambassador of the Arab League.31

Kahane’s supporters in Israel also vowed revenge, adding: “Whoever thinks that Kahane and the Kach movement have been destroyed has made a great mistake.” Said Kach member Yoel Ben-David: “I promise you there will be a river of Arab blood.”32

During his years, Kahane had succeeded well beyond most expectations in changing the political landscape of Israel. New York Times correspondent John Kifner reported that Kahane had been successful in the sense that many of his ideas “had crept into the mainstream” in Israel. Dr. Ehud Sprinzak, an Israeli expert on far right activities in Israel, wrote: “Where he has succeeded is in changing the thinking of many Israelis toward anti-Arab feelings and violence. He forced the more respectable parties to change. In the 1970s Kahane was in the political wilderness, but by the 1980s the center had moved toward Kahane.” Today Kahane’s policy of “transfer” is openly discussed as never before and one political party, Moledet, with one Knesset seat, has ethnic cleansing as its single issue. Observed the Jewish Telegraph Agency: “Rabbi Kahane could die satisfied that his message has impacted deeply and widely throughout Israeli society.”

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