The Synchronicity Thread

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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:48 am

When I was living in Melbourne I read a RAW book, one with exercises at the end of each chapter, probably Prometheus Rising.

In it there was an exercise/discussion about DNA and synchronicity that ended with RAW suggesting that next time we were out look at car number plates for the letteers DNA.

Next time I was out it took about 5 minutes to see one. (This isn't as big a fluke as it seems cos at the time number plates with 3 letters, the first one being D had just been issued to new car registrations. At the time the newest cars had letters like ENA and EBC and the like, so in the last couple of years many plates with D** had been issued.)

One time I was talking with a friend and finally decided I was gonna chase up a good teacher and learn Tai Chi. Later that day we gave a ride to a hitchiker who happened to have been a former student of Earle Montague, who learned original Yang style off the current keeper of that line in malaysia. He was the first "white devil" to learn it.

Synchronous way to find a Tai Chi teacher I thought.
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Postby Nordic » Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:36 am

justdrew wrote:
When I was very young, shortly after the death of the man I thought at the time was my father, I was playing in my backyard sandbox... Normally I'd not be in it very long at a time, but one afternoon I spent hours in the sandbox, totally engrossed in what I was making and had to be pulled out by mom for dinner.
I was making in the sand a model of a part of a city on a ridge spur with a particular kind of institutional campus built on it. I was making all these little roads on the sides of the ridge, the buildings, imagining helicopters and driving cars on the roads, and myself working at this place as an adult. Lots of details. I was very engrossed in this. Well, thirty years later, I work at just such an institution, on a ridge. It's improbable that such a place would even be built in such geography, yet there it is, and there I am. It's also improbable that I would cross the country to end up in the right city. Aspects of my personal life that I'd imagined in the sandbox, have come entirely true as well.


This reminds me of those stories about when they track down identical twins who were raised apart and it turns out that they've married women with the same names, drive the same cars, live in the same kinds of houses, etc.

It makes you wonder just how much free will we actually have.

I'm reading a biography right now of the psychic Annette Martin. Pretty damn fascinating. She seems to be the real deal, and often tells people of things that are going to happen to them in the future, with uncanny accuracy. If our future is preordained, just what choices do we consciously make?

Been thinking about that lately about myself, and my wife, and family and stuff. I always knew, somehow that I would have a blond-haired blue-eyed son. Just knew it, and now I do. Of course it's not a stretch considering that I'm blond haired and blue-eyed ...... but still ....

Sometimes you just know stuff. Sometimes it's good. Often it's not good at all.
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Postby Penguin » Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:54 am

agitprop wrote:Speaking of RAW, here's a good one. For some reason I happened on Robert Anton Wilson, rabbits, and ufo's, online. Don't know what I was originally googling. Read his piece about how rabbits and hares seemed to pop up in ufo lore quite frequently. Didn't know this, but they could have popped up more frequently for him, as he was a big fan of the Pookah, (some Celtic invisible rabbit spirit). After reading it, I wondered how long it would take me to be sucked into the ufo, rabbit synchronicity vortex, myself. Not five seconds later I checked my email and the first message was from a friend about the ufo sighting over...ba ba boom...."O'Hare" airport. Of course O'hare translated from Irish, means "of the hare". :D :D


Haha. My rabbits are some cool creatures (actually, bunnies. Real rabbits of the wild kind I see out my window). Dunno bout UFOs too, but I do like Wilson. Two outta three, eh? Bunnies and Wilson. Drank "Dark Hare Ale" a lil while and saved the bottles - its got a cute drawing of a rabbit in flight.

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A friend (identity smudged to keep his mojo intact) and a bunny, also a friend.

Future preordained? I dont think so. I think what one sees is probability, it doesnt necessarily turn out exactly so if one seizes the right moment to make a difference. Once when walking out downtown late at night, I walk by a group of young men, drunk and belligerent - and a lil before they pass me, I lock eyes with one of them for a fraction of a second, and I "see" him suckerpunch me in the belly. When we pass each other, I take one step to the side - he tries to punch me hard, but misses, just chafing my coat a little. Good thing.
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Postby OP ED » Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:16 am

but doesn't the universe (already) have all of the money?
(always and forever?)

damned greedy universe. in context then, the universe's inflationary problems are maicrocosmically related to our own?
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Postby OP ED » Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:20 am

and, btw, people actually say "nine-eleven" when saying "911" re: war on terror and "nine-one-one" when re: the telephone number.

to me, suggesting that the phone number was planted as part of an NWO superplan is where you're getting a bit out there...
even the aliens aren't that smart. that's just paranoid. they hijacked a meme. that's obvious, but superplans seem highly suspicious from where i'm sitting. that doesn't even really count as synchronicity. it was on purpose. after the fact. therefore: doesn't count.

hah.
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:15 am

OP ED wrote:but doesn't the universe (already) have all of the money?
(always and forever?)

damned greedy universe. in context then, the universe's inflationary problems are maicrocosmically related to our own?


Yeah quite possibly.

Like there universe, there is no accepted finite limit on the amount of money there can be. If humanity morphed into something like Ian Banks "Culture" then there will be phenomonal amounts of money floating around.

Its not like there is X dollars or roubles or whatever, and the percentage of those dollars moves around the population.

The amount of money in the world expands and contracts over time, tho seems to increase as a trend, and as a result money worth X units of actual value now was worth 2X units some time in the past. Thats possibly a good model for the universe, based on nothing other than a whim of course.

And what happens to the total amount of money over time?

Does it increase forever or reach a boundary and contract into a crunch that removes all money? Assuming the only money in the universe is on earth, whether it keeps expanding or crunches is dependant on what happens to humanity.

As for the universe ... perhaps the same thing applies. Perhaps there is something specific about life on earth, and we are the only place where its actually got beyond bacteria ... I am raving and will stop right now.
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Postby Penguin » Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:23 am

OP ED wrote:and, btw, people actually say "nine-eleven" when saying "911" re: war on terror and "nine-one-one" when re: the telephone number.

to me, suggesting that the phone number was planted as part of an NWO superplan is where you're getting a bit out there...
even the aliens aren't that smart. that's just paranoid. they hijacked a meme. that's obvious, but superplans seem highly suspicious from where i'm sitting. that doesn't even really count as synchronicity. it was on purpose. after the fact. therefore: doesn't count.

hah.


Except when you look into who it was that was involved in introducing the number. Its not that old.

http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/bl911.htm
The ability to dial a single number to report emergencies was first used in Great Britain, in 1937. The British could dial 999 to call for police, medical or fire departments, from anywhere in the country. In 1958, the American Congress first investigated a universal emergency number for the United States and finally passed the legal mandate in 1967. The very first American 911 call was placed on February 16, 1968 in Haleyville, Alabama made by Alabama Speaker of the House, Rankin Fite and answered by Congressman Tom Bevill.

The new emergency number had to be three numbers that were not in use in the United States or Canada as the first three numbers of any phone number or area code, and the numbers had to be easy to use. The Federal Trade Commission along with AT&T (which held a monopoly on phone services at that time) originally announced the plans to build the first 911 system in Huntington, Indiana. Bob Gallagher, President of the Alabama Telephone, was annoyed that the independent phone industry had not been consulted. Gallagher decided to beat AT&T to the punch line and have the first 911 emergency service built in Haleyville, Alabama. "

Gallagher consulted with Bob Fitzgerald, his state inside-plant manager. Fitzgerald let Gallagher know that he could do it. Gallagher moved quickly getting approvals from Continental Telephone and the Alabama Public Service commissioner, and releasing a press release on February 9 announcing that the Alabama Telephone Company would be making history.

Fitzgerald examined all twenty-seven Alabama exchanges choosing the Haleyville location, and then engineered the new circuitry and made the modifications needed for the existing equipment. Fitzgerald and his team worked around the clock to install the first 911 emergency system in under one week. The team worked their regular day jobs in Fayette, traveling each night to Haleyville to do the 911 work during off-peak hours. The work was completed on February 16, 1968, at exactly 2 p.m. celebrated with a team cheer of "Bingo!"


http://www.911dispatch.com/911/history/background.html

I read with interest the various theories on how 911 was chosen for the nationwide emergency number in the US. The ones posted on your site are interesting, but not correct. What happened was the following.

One of the staff members of Senator Ernest Gruening has taken leave to go on a summer trip in Europe in the summer of 1966. Flying first into London, he noticed that the English had implemented a 999 nationwide emergency number which struck the staffer as a good idea. He simply filed it away in his memory, finished his summer in Europe and returned to Washington back on the Senator's staff.

Then one morning he overheard another of the Senator's staff talking to the Senator in Juneau [Alaska] (where he was running for reelection in 1968, though the date of the conversation may actually have been 1967) and the Senator said that he had to give a speech that night in Juneau and did anyone have an idea for a topic? This jogged the staffer's memory and he said "why don't we introduce a bill to establish a nationwide 911 emergency number?"

The Senator thought that was a great idea and kicked off the idea with a speech that night in Juneau. The reason 911 was picked was also simple. At the time (and this you can check) in the Washington area there was 211 for time and weather (long since dead now) and 411 for information (which still exists). So he naturally borrowed the 9 from the British 999 system and simply added the 11 to match the other already existing and simple to remember numbers.

If you research around this time, you will find the following:

1. that Senator Gruening introduced a "sense of Congress" resolution on the matter and held widely attended hearings as a subcommittee chairman. This is a matter of public record which you could find.

2. Time Magazine had an editorial on the subject around the same time, essentially calling it a great idea, but that they thought that people would continue to simply dial "O" for operator and yell for help. How wrong they were.

3. The matter also got wide coverage on the national news shows at the time, which you could also probably find if you researched.

4. What you can't find (and they wouldn't admit) was that ATT was actually initially opposed to the idea for cost reasons. Their lobbyist called the Senator's office and essentially said "what are you guys doing to us? Do you know how much it will cost to reprogram our computers to do this? 50 million dollars." He was told that he had better tell ATT to add a nickel to everyone's phone bills each month to pay for it then, because the Senator had huge support in cosigners from both houses of Congress and ATT was the only one that didn't like the idea.

No money was appropriated for the effort, by the way, because it was right in the middle of both the Vietnam War and the Great Society legislation and none was around. That was why the sense of Congress resolution was used, giving Congress' view on what should be done, but leaving the initiative to the states and municipalities, which is still, I believe, how it is run today."



FWIW. I have no opinion one way or the other, really...


Then it enters the realm of plausibly human memetics. But as you said, it is more likely it was hijacked after the fact. Here the number is 112 - used to be 000 for a long time. 112 was a lot faster than 000 on old turndial phones, on dialtone ones it doesnt make much difference.

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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:28 am

OP ED wrote:and, btw, people actually say "nine-eleven" when saying "911" re: war on terror and "nine-one-one" when re: the telephone number.

to me, suggesting that the phone number was planted as part of an NWO superplan is where you're getting a bit out there...
even the aliens aren't that smart. that's just paranoid. they hijacked a meme. that's obvious, but superplans seem highly suspicious from where i'm sitting. that doesn't even really count as synchronicity. it was on purpose. after the fact. therefore: doesn't count.

hah.



So whats the deal with the 93 Current?




I'd be inclined to think you are right about 911 being a hijacked meme, but ...

Anyway whats the deal with the 93 current.



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Postby OP ED » Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:33 am

which 93 current?
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Postby OP ED » Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:36 am

i grew up on military bases. none of them had 9-1-1
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:19 am

OP ED wrote:which 93 current?


The one thats sposed to be associated with thelema or agape or whatever.

Crowley identified it apparantly, its one of those things I've known is there, and has some meaning in occult or thelemic lore, just not what it's meaning was and why...

More specifically why is itsnumber identified as number 93, and do other numbers with 93 in them or with them or whatever. Is it just some random thing, and if not what about the way numbers sometimes function as attractors for events?

Cos 8bit is claiming the numbers 911 function as an attractor.

Now he seems to think the attractor was designed by some archeron that rules earth to our detriment, and in some ways acts like 911 are often carried out by people who are unaware of the occult power of what they are doing. And that ultimately even humans high up the chain of command (so to speak) are unaware of all of the implications of what they do.

I don't necessarily agree with all of that, but there are times when I can see how it makes sense and may be an accurate model.

So even if the idea was the date was chosen to hijack the emergency number, and reinforce the idea of an emergency, panic and all that, (all of whch is a use of symbols to manipulate emotion, often on a level just below conscious awareness) - that doesn't rule out the possibility that they were incapable of picking any other number cos 911 is an attractor for that sort of thing, and possibly even one chosen by some bloodthirsty egregore that is kind of mindless in its way but just chases after power and control the way some people chase cash and others chase gash.
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Postby Fred Astaire » Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:40 am

I used to have a peculiar form of synchronicity where I would read a word or a phrase, and it would be sung in a song I was listening to at the exact same time. At one point, I read and heard "King Henry". I had a close friend whose middle name was Henry who had just passed away, and we sometimes called him King Henry. Perhaps he was saying hello.

Nowadays, every other time I look at a clock, or how look to see how long a song or video is, it's something:56. If it was just the clock, I would say that I'm subconsciously timing myself to see it, but it's far more than that.

Is the number 56 significant to me? Well, I was born in 1956, and I'll be 56 in...2012. Hmmm.
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Postby OP ED » Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:02 am

8bit asked this before.

you must understand that i've spent several years coming to my own conclusions on this matter, and they aren't the sort of thing i can drop out in a moment or two. the current is the apocalyptic process itself. the evolutionary clarification of vision reverberating backward from the inevitable event. it usually manifests as side effects, war and sex, or more rarely as actual vision, that is, as art. fortunately, as it is the forging force itself, it is not possible for it to be co-opted.

i'll leave the bits about archons and such to others at present. never had any beef with them myself.

the current is the ongoing attempts of the universe to become more aware of itself. the end is vision.

(i have been sorting my mind, in preparation for rediscussion of this topic, in my thread in the data dump, much of it is already there, although not assembled as anything yet)

it is too big to tackle in one night, but maybe that helps a little.
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:32 am

Fair enough. That helps heaps.

The 93 Current sounds like an interesting idea.

the current is the ongoing attempts of the universe to become more aware of itself. the end is vision.


Yeah right. So I was aware of what it is, just fom a slightly different place. What you are talking about is, from where I sit, the fundamental driving force of existence. Or something about samosas...

All those archerons and the rest are really aspects of that apocalyptic process too, (not apocalypse in the Christian fundie sense, but vision, like you said.) Part of the universe becoming self aware. And whether they have an objective reality outside our imagination or not, coming to terms with that is part of the universe becoming self aware.

So is South Park and Britney Spears for that matter.

Its a big thing all right, to big for one night, and what I was thinking when I asked originally ... yeah it doesn't really fit trying to relate 911 and 93 the way I thought it might.

Thanks for that. I'm glad I asked now.
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Postby 8bitagent » Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:33 am

JackRiddler wrote:.

But Sept. 11 didn't happen in a city but involved two cities, a rural field, and four flights from three airports. When they say something awkward like, "the attacks in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania," you should see one reason why it was reduced to the date (other than the obviously memorable number that is also the emergency phone number).

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True. I just noticed that the media and talking heads literally started calling the event "9/11" by the end of the day. I remember a guy was on later in the day who escaped one of the towers...he said how when he was in the stairwell, and someone said "what day is it", and they said "Its 9-11", and he immediately said how appropriate he thought that was, since 9-1-1 has been drilled into us all in the US as meaning emergency.
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