The Growing Trend Toward Fascism in Israel

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Alice, check this out

Postby mondo11 » Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:13 am

Alice, I'm glad that you posted that video of that Russian "settler", who spends all her time terrorizing and teaching her children to so the same? 7 and 8 yr olds throw rocks and beat up the neighbor kids because they're Palestinian. if that happened here, what do you think would happen? CPS would come and take those kids in a NY minute! She's only lived in Israel for 8 months and lives off welfare subsidized by US taxes ! One of the more powerful and hateful videos I've ever seen...Thanks for posting it.

HEre's another couple of videos from this past month. One young woman in her 20's even admits to being fascist as she sits sipping latte from the hilltop of Sderot watching the bombing, where they're supposedly "terrified" from the "1000's of rocket attacks".

Read about the Sderot settlement rocket victims here...
http://www.chris-floyd.com/component/co ... ining.html

And here's the war voyeurs vid...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjw8U0AcH4Q

With 1000's of attacks, isn't it odd they are so casual? Maybe it's because there's only been 3 deaths in 8 years from these "rockets"? And if these rockets are coming from Iran, why is it they can't penetrate concrete and mostly bounce off tiled rooves? Iran's rocket technology 30 years ago could blow up Iraqi tanks! So a house or a car? Whole blocks would be obliterated if they had real Iranian rockets.

What is most disturbing is that in a poll last week, 91 percent of Israeli's still SUPPORT the bombing of Gaza despite half the deaths being children and all the civilian targeting?

Did you know that despite all the sanctions and bombings over the years that traumatize these children, they are still one of the most successful countries as far as university acceptance testing for Pal students?

Watch this eye-opening "Witness" documentary about these students.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtziKpJi2Wk


Also this is a nice gem from New York after 15 days of bombing. If you look hard enough, you can actually see blood dripping from one ladies fangs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FABqq_jjRRo


And it's always Israelis I hear talking about "wiping people off the map" or "get rid of all of them". Not Hamas. They denounced that 3 years ago, yet the media still tells us they are the ones talking about 'wiping off the map'. Just like Iran, which was a purposeful misquote that has been [url]proven for years to be a lie[/url]...

See Juan Cole...http://dissentradio.com/radio/08_01_14_cole.mp3



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Postby vigilant » Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:25 am

Did you know that despite all the sanctions and bombings over the years that traumatize these children, they are still one of the most successful countries as far as university acceptance testing for Pal students?

One of the most awesome, impressive, and surprising things I have ever heard.
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Postby AlicetheKurious » Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:37 am

Thanks for the vids, Mondo11.
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Postby OP ED » Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:14 am

orz wrote:

This is a very broad brush you're painting with. I could say that lots of science is bullshit. Thalidomide anyone? Lots of things that were 'scientifically proved' were 'scientifically disproved' later. So, science is just as much a bullshit religion as any of the others that you quoted.


DUURRR SCIENCE IS JUST ANOTHER RELIGION MAYUBE THE ANSWR IS SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDDLE LOL

Can someone PLEASE post SOMETHING on this board which i couldn't come up with word for word from the thread title????!??!? :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:


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Postby AlicetheKurious » Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:57 am

OP ED wrote:
slimmouse wrote:

Since when has the Abrahimic faiths, based upon what intelligent scholars can see are a clear collection of lies, ever been anything else other than a bunch of fucking crap - used almost exclusively for political purposes at the expense of humanity as a whole ?



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OK, we're officially off the topic of Israel's so-called 'descent' into fascism.

In response to your question, I could have given you a million examples, but here's a personal one:

In late 2002, a few months after the horrific re-invasion of the West Bank by Israel, and at a very depressing time, a music video came out that shot to the top of the charts throughout the Arab world. Set to a Sufi beat and relying heavily on rich Islamic symbols, it was sung by Mohamed Mounir, a very popular singer from Egypt's Nubian region. The music is a mix of Nubian/Egyptian and Sudanese traditional styles.

The video was shown repeatedly on tv. I love it. So many years later, it still makes me want to spin like a Sufi until I dissolve into one big puddle of love -- for humanity, for God, for our planet and everything on it. And I'm not even Muslim! But who cares!

The translation doesn't come close to capturing the magic of the lyrics in Arabic, but here goes:

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/mouni ... 1695263438
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Postby American Dream » Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:24 pm

I wouldn't say that Abrahamic faiths are bad or good, per se. While I am not a member of any such faith, and never have been, I think the problem may be more with an excess of "faith" itself, when that faith is a dogma that discounts critical thinking, especially about the doctrine itself. The same could hold true about Marxism, LaRouche and other ideologies, as approached dogmatically.

Personally, I kind of like certain aspects of movements tied to Abrahamic faiths, for example in Liberation Theology, Sufism, neo-Essenes, and et cetera. What I don't like is in believing a lot of crap, just because some authority figure said so.

All of which is leading up to posting the following article. I am still trying to figure out what exactly to make of it all, but that said, I do imagine it will be of interest here:

http://www.realitysandwich.com/psychedelic_israel

Psychedelic Israel

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What is the Geula Party? Is it a political statement? Art? A spiritual manifesto? The Geula party seeks to be all of the above, but it is first of all an attempt to transmit a radically different message to the Israeli people on the eve of the Israeli elections which [took] place this Tuesday, on the 10th of February.

Video:The Geula Party - Choosing Good

Like the Intergalactic Underground, the idea for the Geula Party came from voyages in the psychedelic realms. It was there, while traveling in inner space, that I confronted a voice which urged me: "In this chaotic reality in which you live, you have to raise your voice and say something that will break the wall of lies in which the people are caught, in which you yourself are caught."

"Israel," the voice said, "is in a psychotic state, and what it needs now is an holistic cure."

Psychedelically-induced voices tend to make some curious demands. This one called upon me to leave everything in my life in order to start a new party, one that will be radically different from everything Israeli politics has to offer, a psychedelic party which will bring a truly mind expanding message to the people. This was the Geula party.

"Geula" is the Hebrew biblical word for salvation or redemption, and it has an important part in Jewish thought about inner freedom and the end of time. The Geula Party uses both Israeli as well as Jewish symbols but plants them within a psychedelic context. It was designed to be an alien apparition in the field of Israeli politics, but all the while draw from the bank of the Jewish and Israeli collective unconscious.

So what is it? To put it briefly, I can call the Geula Party a consciousness expansion party. In contrast to the other parties that run for parliament, the Geula Party runs in the inner elections, i.e., the elections going on inside our consciousness (in Hebrew the word "elections" and the word "choices" are the same -- "B'chirot").

Who do we run against? Well, we run against various other inner parties and powers that compete for people's attention and state of mind. We run against carnivorous capitalism, the powers of nationalism, the powers of commercials and mass media, and also the powers of random choice, of just living your life with out making one truly aware choice.

During the past three weeks, since the end of the war in Gaza, we have been broadcasting campaign videos on the web, calling upon Israelis to wake up, to take active inner action and raise the voting turnout in their inner ballots. We have been arguing that while one can only vote every four years and while our influence on politics as individuals is rather limited, we are casting our inner votes at every moment, and our influence there is absolute. You can argue for hours in vain about the political situation, but spending a few minutes wisely exploring your consciousness can change your life. Maybe, we suggest, if people start making their inner choices/elections, then one day things will start getting better in the outer world too.

The Geula Party calls upon Israeli voters (And of course, on people wherever they are) to start taking responsibility for their lives, to drop out from the hoax of culturally defined reality and choose the good, choose the Geula.

Video:Choose the Geula

The Medium is the Message, and the Message is You

Although I have been openly writing about psychedelics in Hebrew for the past few years, advertising an openly psychedelic party could have been highly unwise in the current Israeli context.

However, a program for psychedelic consciousness expansion for Israeli society was badly needed for the Geula Party to go anywhere. Some tools for our mind to grow needed to be developed. The nine-minute program, another transmission received from the other realms, became the main part of the political platform of the Geula Party.

The nine-minute program is a consciousness expansion program made up of nine one-minute, open-ended consciousness exercises designed to help people cope with life and to enhance abilities such as love, faith, gratitude, and connection with the cosmos, with the past, and with the future.

The idea of the nine-minute program was further developed into the Inner Product Market, a part of the Geula Party website which functions as a web 2.0 platform for consciousness expansion. The Inner Product Market enables people to upload consciousness exercises they developed, and enables others to download consciousness exercises from the site into their consciousness -- thus creating a community for collective consciousness expansion. The idea behind the IPM was to create a basis for a society which will not be based on polluting consumer products, but on consciousness "products," and in which we are not simply consumers but consumers and producers of consciousness.

What we say to people is that we have to assume responsibility for our consciousness. We advance this idea with the slogan: "The medium is the message and the message is you." Marshall McLuhan was of course the one who said that the medium is the message. Adding the statement that "The message is you" means that before all other media, the most primal medium is that of our bodies and consciousness, and these are the first media that need to be explored and taken as the base of our reality, rather than culturally defined identity.

Consecrating Dizingoff Center

On the 10th of February, election day, the Geula Party will meet in front of the Dizingoff Center Mall in the center of Tel Aviv to perform a special ceremony. The ceremony, which draws inspiration from biblical sources as well as from the actions of the Yippie movement in the sixties, is meant to consecrate the Dizingoff Center Mall which is a symbol of modern day Israeli society with all of its sickness but also with everything that is so beautiful about it.

During the ceremony we plan to encircle center mall seven times while blowing our horns, and then stage a special ceremony in which we will sing some songs, and perform twelve consciousness exercises, one of which will include trying to get inside the consciousness of the next prime minister, whoever they will be, purge them of everything that is evil, and make them into slaves and servants of justice for the rest of their life.

The peak of our ceremony will be the forming of the alliance of the righteous. The alliance of the righteous is the alliance of all the people who are willing to proclaim that in 2009 --whomever the next prime minister will be, whatever our politicians do, and what other forces in the world do -- we choose to assume responsibility for our lives, to be good, and to be happy.

Is this politics? Is this art? Is this mysticism? Terrence McKenna said the first thing every activist must do is to become psychedelic. We like to think of the Geula Party as psychedelic activism, as a movement which advances "art that is politics, politics that are art. Mysticism which is politic, and politics which are mystical".

Israeli politics of consciousness

I realize that this text might raise a few eyebrows. Is it even possible to talk about consciousness given the current situation of Israel?

Since the last elections three years ago, Israel has engaged in two wars, the prime minister had to resign over suspicions of corruption, and the country's international position has radically deteriorated. Israel has polled a few times as one of the most hated or negative countries in the world, along with Iran.

I spent the whole of yesterday evening trying to write an introduction to Israel's current situation. I've decided to leave it out of this article because it was too tedious to read and too painful to write.

I realize with sorrow what the image of Israel and Israeli society is at the moment. I have seen some amazing people here react in totally different ways to the essential impossibility of the Israeli situation, either by becoming nationalistic or by becoming anti-Israeli or just by trying to distance themselves completely from the situation in Israel, sometimes by immigrating to other countries.

After 30 years of living the politics of this scarred country, the more I try to explore and to understand the political situation I live in, the less I feel I know. Both left and right ideologies seem to have crumbled. I personally can not believe anyone who thinks they have a sure solution for the situation. And by this I don't mean to say that we shouldn't look for one.

The only thing I can say about the situation in Israel is that it is not simple. Thinking about it in purely political terms has brought me nowhere. The only thing it made clear to me is the overwhelming pain and fear that people here experience on both sides. It is easy to hate Israelis and it is easy to hate Palestinians, it is easy to pronounce both as fools or fanatics. I prefer to think of them as humans in a really really cruel situation. What I am looking for is a way to feel compassion for all these people, regardless of the horrible mistakes we are all making.

It is difficult to engage in the politics of consciousness in the current situation in Israel. What is allowed for psychedelic activists in other parts of the world is liable to be called escapist in the bleak Israeli reality. But for me, psychedelic activism makes more sense than any other form of activism.

The Geula Party believes that the solution must start from within. And if we do offer a political solution in the conventional sense of the word, then it must be a totally different one, one that starts out from the psychedelic revelation that we are all first and foremost human beings and that the cultural definitions which have been forced upon us are a hoax.

If you ask me about a solution for the situation, I would have different proposals, but the only really good one I would have is: People should be people and live together. There is no other way. The thing that put us in this horrendous situation to begin with is culture. Without culturally-defined identity, there would be no reason for people here or elsewhere to fight in wars. What we must realize is that we are all under occupation, the occupation of false consciousness, the occupation of culture.

If we want to live in peace we must first let go of those cultural definitions that have been forced upon us and which prevent us from living together as human beings. People must realize that before everything else, we are humans, and that everything that hinders people from understanding that is destructive and should not be part of our identity.

Jacques Ellul said in The Technological Society: There are no political solutions, only technological ones, the rest is propaganda. The human race simply deserve a better political system, one in which all people are truly equal, one which brings people together and does not divide them by imaginary lines on a map, a political system in which the hellish wars we are currently experiencing would seem ludicrous since there would be no system to even make it possible.

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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:29 pm

LEIGH SALES: You talk about the pessimism there. When you look at the factors you outlined, such as the fear of neighbours and the disillusionment with the peace process, it seems almost logical that Israelis would be pessimistic.

TOM SEGEV: Yes, it is logical. But apparently it took the election to show how pessimistic they actually are.

They are so pessimistic that they are actually voting for a really far right party that appeals to bigotry and hatred.

When a party like that did very well in Austria, Israel actually re-called its ambassador from Austria, stating that it cannot stand idle by when far right parties rise.

So that was about eight years ago and, obviously, unfortunately, we've come a long way since then.

LEIGH SALES: Australians may not know very much about Avigdor Lieberman's Party, Yisrael Beiteinu. You say they appeal to bigotry and hatred. Can you give me some examples of that?

TOM SEGEV: Yes. The major idea is to fence out of Israel about 1.5 million Israeli Arabs.

They are Israeli citizens and according to Mr Lieberman they should really belong to the Palestinian population outside of Israel.

So they would lose their Israeli citizenship and he's talking about drawing new boarders; he's not talking about expelling them physically, but he's actually talking about fencing them out of Israel.

And that is of course a terrible idea and unfortunately many Israelis go for that.


http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2008/s2489079.htm
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Postby AlicetheKurious » Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:48 am

Those self-parodying, irritating 'Geula' videos speak for themselves. Oy.

If they were widely screened, no wonder the Israelis voted for the Right.
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Postby MinM » Thu May 10, 2012 1:31 pm

Jeff wrote:It's been trending hard that way since the assassination of Rabin.

Rabin's murder is considered irrelevant by many on the left for the same reason as JFK's: both are distractions from structural critique. Kennedy was a Cold Warrior; Rabin was a Zionist. Their deaths are greeted with shrugs. But that's to confuse what promise, even false, the men might have represented to Americans or Vietnamese or Israelis or Palestinians, with what risks they came to pose to criminalized institutions.

Assassination is a tool of fascist statecraft.

IIRC Richard Goodwin, in "Remembering America", laments the fact that there were no logical successors to the Kennedy Bros. A calculation of which tPTB must have counted on when plotting against Yitzhak Rabin.
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