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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:17 pm

For all his flaws I believe leary was committed to a better world, and used whatever was available to him to achieve it.

He's no different to Cheney in that sense.

What it boils down to is definitions of that better world.
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Postby Truth4Youth » Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:58 pm

yathrib wrote:What is it that they don't want us to see?


I think at the heart of much of Leary's work you can see the same goals as those of Burroughs and Gysin. Taking the power away from the force known as "control" and liberating the people. I always got the feeling that Leary understood how "TPTB" could use psychedelics and later technology to control people, and he just turned those concepts on their ends for different ends. Would the term "self mind control" fit well?
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Postby American Dream » Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:13 pm

John Lilly called it "programming and metaprogramming the human biocomputer". He found out a lot about psychedelics through MKULTRA research programs, as did Leary and Burroughs. This does not mean that any of them were wholly controlled by that program though, nor that any of them was wholly free from it either...
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Postby Penguin » Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:02 pm

American Dream wrote:John Lilly called it "programming and metaprogramming the human biocomputer". He found out a lot about psychedelics through MKULTRA research programs, as did Leary and Burroughs. This does not mean that any of them were wholly controlled by that program though, nor that any of them was wholly free from it either...


Ive read "Programming and metaprogramming..:" and "A Metaphysical Autobiography" from Lilly, and I felt I agreed with its message mostly. Lots of that latter one was of his experiments with the isolation tank, LSD and ketamine, and experiments with dolphins (mostly their sonar capabilities, language, and telepathy experiments with LSD and ketamine while suspended in the tank near the dolphin pool).

He didnt sound thrilled at all with the electrode insertion experiments of his earlier life, later realizing that is not the way to go, and seemed to strive to do something positive in the majority of his life. I havent looked much into it otherwise thou.

I have at least the autobiography as a pdf, I think the other too, and am willing to provide them if someone is interested (pm).
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Postby American Dream » Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:22 pm

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I can't shake the feeling that John Lily never fully escaped the world of MKULTRA, even though he may have left the brain implants and sensory deprivation research for the government. Stories like the following from Adam Gorightly strengthen my wonderings about what was going on with the Psychedelic Movement in general...

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/UFOs/Gorightly.htm


John Lilly, Ketamine and The Entities From ECCO
- by Adam Gorightly (exclusive to ConspiracyArchive.com)


In the early 70's, John Lilly was introduced to the drug Ketamine by Dr. Craig Enright in the hopes of alleviating the pain associated with Lilly's chronic migraine headaches, which he had been suffering like clockwork — every 18 hours — for most of his often-adventurous life.

Lilly, at the time, was at Esalen Institute conducting seminars when one of these massive migraines hit him. In situations such as these, Lilly withdrew into privacy, to suffer alone through the many endless hours of severe discomfort. It was at this time that Enright suggested to Lilly that he enter into the Esalen isolation tank and receive an injection of Ketamine, in the prospect that it would in some way cure him of his affliction. Lilly in the past had tried a similar experiment with LSD, but it proved unsuccessful, and the terrible headaches persisted. In the earlier LSD-assisted experiment, Lilly attempted to reprogram his human bio-computer in such a way as to eliminate the faulty circuits that were causing him such distress. The experiment failed, but now once again Lilly the Scientist was searching for an answer and a cure to his malignant malady.

As Lilly floated in the isolation tank fluid, Enright injected him with 35 milligrams of Ketamine (K). Within a few minutes, Lilly could actually visualize the migraine pain moving out of his skull, to a point levitated there in apperceived space, Lilly felt no pain whatsoever for some twenty minutes, until it once again reentered his head. When Lilly began moaning and groaning in his water-filled sanctum of pain, Enright injected him with another 70 milligrams. This time Lilly felt the pain moving farther away, twelve feet this time. Thirty minutes later the migraine lightning bolt of pain came rushing back, lodging itself once again into Dr. Lilly's head. Enright reloaded his syringe and shot the good doctor up with 150 milligrams. This time when the pain vacated Lilly's head it kept on going and didn't come back; clear over the horizon, never to be seen again. An hour later, after the K wore off, Lilly climbed out of the tank, a new man.

A month later, when the regularly occuring migraine failed to rear its aching head, Lilly was amazed. During his psychedelic research of the early Sixty's, Lilly was one of the early pioneers in charting the inner landscapes of the human brain with LSD inside his self-developed isolation tank. Within those dark, still waters of the soul, Lilly ingested heroic doses of acid and delved deep into his mind to imprint and re-program his mental circuits toward enlightenment and self-realization. But where LSD had failed in defeating the migraine problem, Ketamine had now apparently succeeded.

A week later when Doctor's Enright and Lilly met at the Esalen isolation tank, they agreed to join forces and conduct a joint research into the effects of Ketamine as a possible programming agent. The movie Altered States was based on one of their initial experiments. On this memorable occasion, Enright injected himself with a measured dose of K and — with Lilly observing — began a strange odyssey into the primal/archetype regions of his psyche. Unbeknownst to Dr. Lilly, Enright had reprogrammed himself "to return to the prehominid origins of man." Enright, in this programmed "altered state", displayed all the typical features, movements and sounds of an Ape Man; hopping around in a crouching position, grunting, growling, ranting and howling, gesticulating and shaking frantically his arms. While all of this high weirdness was going on, Lilly assumed that Enright was having some sort of seizure. Though in close proximity with each other throughout the entire experience, the separate realities they were experiencing were of entirely different natures. Enright's reality consisted of a confrontation with a leopard, which he drove away with all his arms flailing, grunting and wild gesticulations. Finally Enright climbed up into a tree (that Lilly couldn't see) and stared down at his friend and colleague from the branches above.

From this experiment, Enright and Lilly drew three important conclusions: "First, one's internal reality could differ radically from the external reality in which one was participating, even with regard to prominent features of the physical environment. Second, the person might remain active physically in the external environment, in a manner not responding closely to one's internal experience of this activity. And third, one could remain totally oblivious to this disparity." Given these conditions, Lilly and Enright agreed that it would be a good idea at all times to have a "safety man" monitoring the experiments; to observe the proceedings and insure that those under K's influence could do no physical harm to themselves and others. With both men being trained physicians the obvious choice to fill these roles were themselves, alternately switching positions as "safety man" and "explorer".

One determining factor in Lilly's decision to continue experimenting with K was its measurability. Unlike other programming agents he had used in the past, K's effects were extremely predictable, in that you could determine exacting levels of dosage to correspond with the desired effect one wished to experience; whereas other mind expansion agents such as LSD and psilocybin are often more unpredictable in regards to the facilitation of desired preprogramming. This brings to mind a possible correlation between Ketamine and DMT, where each of these drugs — administered at certain exacting dosages — apparently summon forth, to the percipient involved, extraterrestrial or other-dimensional entities. High doses of psilocybin have effected this response in some users — Terrance McKenna, among others — who have communicated telepathically with alien intelligences under the mushroom's otherworldly aegis. But psilocybin's effects are quirky. Perhaps this is why the measurability — and predictability — of K so appealed to Dr. Lilly. In this manner the scientific method could be followed to achieve the desired mind-bending results.

In later experiments, Lilly failed to heed his own advice, becoming so enraptured in his Ketamine exploration that he would forego the earlier agreed upon "safety man" and started working "without a net." This led to an almost fatal consequence when one sunny day, under the influence of K, Lilly climbed into his hot tube. When he realized the temperature was too hot, Lilly futilely attempted to climb out, but in so doing his muscles lost their strength and he collapsed into bubbling currents. Lilly was totally conscious at this point, but due to the effects of K, he was unaware of the external reality of his drowning body. He was conscious only of his internal world. As fate would have it, a friend of Lilly's, Phil Halecki — who found himself driven by a sudden sense of urgency — decided at this time to phone Dr. Lilly. Lilly's wife Toni fielded the phone call and, at Halecki's insistence, went to summon John, only to find him lying face down in the water, breathless and blue. Fortunately, Toni was able to revive her husband using mouth-to-mouth resuscitation, a technique she had learned only a few days earlier from an article in The National Enquirer.

Nonetheless, this close brush with the grim reaper's scythe didn't deter Lilly from further solo flights on K; it only reaffirmed his deeply held conviction that his life was being watched over by higher powers of an extraterrestrial origin. Lilly referred to this network of sublime entities as ECCO, an acronym for "Earth Coincidence Control Office." Lilly was positive that all of these fortuitous coincidences in his life (such as Halecki's life-saving phone call) had been arranged by higher forces; and that whatever unfortunate folly fell into his path along the road to knowledge, ECCO would be there to guide him safely through the tunnel to the light.

But ECCO was not there only to guide Lilly unfettered through his mind-bending research; these extraterrestrial benefactors were also there to test Lilly, to help him overcome his deepest darkest fears with psychic-shock therapy. One evening after a kick-ass shot of K, Lilly sat watching TV when an alien representative of ECCO appeared and — with some advanced form of psychic surgery — bloodlessly removed John's penis, nonchalantly handing it over to him. "They've cut off my penis," Dr. Lilly exclaimed. His wife Toni came to the rescue and pointed out to John that his penis was still intact. Upon closer examination of his male member, Lilly saw that the ET's had replaced his normal human penis with a mechanical version that could become voluntary erect when he wanted it to. An hour later, after the effects of the K wore off, John Lilly found his normal human penis in place of the mechanical one, exactly where it had always been.

Later on, as the frequency of his use on K increased, Dr. Lilly began having contact with another alien intelligence agency, which he called (SSI), short for Solid State Intelligence. SSI was a supercomputer-like entity, much in the same techno-mystical vein as Philip K. Dick's VALIS. But unlike VALIS, SSI was of a malevolent nature, at odds with ECCO. SSI's apparent goal was to conquer and dominate all biological life forms on Earth. To combat SSI, ECCO enlisted Lilly in this archetypal battle of good against evil, charging him with the mission of alerting the world at large to these solid state beings of evil intent. To further confirm the dual existences of these two opposing alien intelligence networks, Lilly was given a sign, and message, in the autumn of 1974. Flying into Los Angeles International Airport (LAX), Dr. Lilly saw the comet Kahoutek out of the southern sky. Momentarily the comet grew brighter. At this point a message was laser-beamed into Lilly's mind, which said: "We are Solid State Intelligence and we are going to demonstrate our power by shutting down all solid state equipment to LAX."

Dr. Lilly shared his foreboding message with his wife Toni, who was seated next to him. A few minutes later, the pilot instructed the passengers that they were being diverted to Burbank due to a plane that had crash-landed near the runway and had knocked down power lines, causing a power failure at the airport.

As his haphazard use of K intensified, so did the warnings of imminent dangers regarding the survival of mankind, provided by ECCO via 3D Technicolor images beamed into Lilly's mind. These visions were of an apocalyptic nature; scenes of nuclear annihilation seen from an alien's eye view in outer space. The world powers needed to be alerted of this impending tragedy immediately to enable them to avert widespread global devastation, ECCO instructed, or it would be too late. I find it interesting that ECCO's message to Dr. Lilly was much the same as those delivered to the early saucer contactees: our planet was on a collision course toward destruction; all atomic weapons must be dismantled if our planet was ever going to have a chance of surviving in the future. The only difference was that the enemy was us, not "them." Nevertheless, rampant technological progress was to blame for the sorry state of the planet, regardless if it was being facilitated by alien intelligences, or humans.

After three weeks of hourly K injections, Lilly decided that he would travel to the east coast to warn political leaders and members of the media of the threat posed by SSI. In New York, he phoned the White House to warn then President Gerald Ford about "a danger to the human race involving atomic energy and computers." A White House aide fielded the call and, although quite aware, of Dr. Lilly's impressive credentials, was not convinced of the urgency of the matter, and informed him that the President was unavailable.

A young intern who had been assigned to Lilly during this time figured the good doctor had finally flipped his high intelligent lid and attempted to have Lilly committed to a psychiatric hospital. Once again ECCO intervened. Lilly had friends in many high places one of which was the director of this hospital, who saw to it that his old friend was released in short order. When the intrepid intern attempted to commit Lilly to another psychiatric hospital, the same scenario unfolded, and Lilly was once again released. The young intern could only shake his frustrated head in disbelief.

Still following the lead of ECCO, Dr. Lilly continued his ever-escalating injections of K in order to remain in contact with the "space brothers". Soon, though, his sources started to dry up due to concerns by his connections that Lilly had gone too far of the deep end. Consequently this led Lilly in search of other long acting chemicals that would provide him with the same effects as K, but for a greater duration of time. During the experimental trial of another drug of similar nature to K, Dr. Lilly received a phone call from his wife Toni requesting that he bring her spare set of car keys, because she had locked her others in her car. Since she was simply down the road a bit, John jumped on his ten-speed and proceeded to peddle down the road to make the delivery.

When Dr. Lilly decided to ride his ten-speed bike down the road to meet his wife, the drug had not yet taken full effect. But midway through his trip, Lilly was zapped by its intoxicating magic and instantly felt quite wonderful with the wind blowing deliciously through his hair; it was as if he'd taken a trip down memory lane to the days of his free wheeling youth. Unfortunately, this flashbackfull sense of euphoria came screeching to a disastrous halt when the bike chain suddenly jammed, and he was catapulted onto the harsh reality of the concrete pavement, puncturing a lung, breaking several ribs, and suffering cranial contusions. This bicycle crash resulted in several days of hospitalization, where Dr. Lilly was once again visited by the otherworldly representatives from ECCO, who told him he had a choice: He could go away with them "for good" or remain on the planet, mend his body and concentrate on more worldly affairs. The good doctor wisely chose the latter. With this decision came a turning point in his life, and a conscious effort to focus his remaining years not only on more earthly matters — as opposed to the whims and wishes of ECCO — but to dedicate the rest of his life to his wife, Toni, and their soul mate journey together through physical time and space.

Many paranormal parallels can be drawn from the experience of John Lilly, one such being the so-called Near Death Experience (NDE), where Guides, as he called them (the two representatives from ECCO) appeared to Lilly much as figurative angels bathed in light do to others who have experienced NDE. Often, as the seemingly near dead hover before this subjective light, they are offered a choice much similar to the one given Dr. Lilly by his otherworldly benefactors from Earth Coincidence Control Center. Should I stay or should I go?

Not long after this second brush with death Dr. Lilly's close friend and Ketamine research partner, Graig Enright, was involved in a head on collision in the fog on coast Highway One. As Enright lay upon his death bed, he was visited by Dr. Lilly, who took Enrights hand in his, and made the following statement: "It's not so bad to die, Craig. I've been to the brink myself a few times, and I've seen over the edge. The Beings have told me on several occasions that I was free to go with them, but I decided to stay here and continue my work in this vehicle that everyone calls John Lilly; they showed me that I am one of them. 'You are one of us'. I know that you know this because we've been there together. Whatever you do, Craig, I love you." On the very next morning, Dr. Graig Enright shed his mortal coil.

Thus ends another chapter in Dr. Lilly's often adventurous life.
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Postby Penguin » Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:53 am

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AD, thanks for the Lilly info.

That ECCO stuff is weird. And his connections life long..
And perhaps those migraines, but that is in the realm of speculation imho.
Ill look some more into that, do post if you have more data.

Also I cant but be concerned about who else is using that isolation tank tech - it was developed with the Air Force imho, after all. I really wouldnt want to experience first hand what they do with them.
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Postby Penguin » Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:59 am

From this experiment, Enright and Lilly drew three important conclusions: "First, one's internal reality could differ radically from the external reality in which one was participating, even with regard to prominent features of the physical environment. Second, the person might remain active physically in the external environment, in a manner not responding closely to one's internal experience of this activity. And third, one could remain totally oblivious to this disparity." Given these conditions, Lilly and Enright agreed that it would be a good idea at all times to have a "safety man" monitoring the experiments; to observe the proceedings and insure that those under K's influence could do no physical harm to themselves and others. With both men being trained physicians the obvious choice to fill these roles were themselves, alternately switching positions as "safety man" and "explorer".


This, on the other hand, is simply good Standard Operating Procedure for any psychonaut worth her salt.

One determining factor in Lilly's decision to continue experimenting with K was its measurability. Unlike other programming agents he had used in the past, K's effects were extremely predictable, in that you could determine exacting levels of dosage to correspond with the desired effect one wished to experience; whereas other mind expansion agents such as LSD and psilocybin are often more unpredictable in regards to the facilitation of desired preprogramming. This brings to mind a possible correlation between Ketamine and DMT, where each of these drugs — administered at certain exacting dosages — apparently summon forth, to the percipient involved, extraterrestrial or other-dimensional entities. High doses of psilocybin have effected this response in some users — Terrance McKenna, among others — who have communicated telepathically with alien intelligences under the mushroom's otherworldly aegis. But psilocybin's effects are quirky. Perhaps this is why the measurability — and predictability — of K so appealed to Dr. Lilly. In this manner the scientific method could be followed to achieve the desired mind-bending results.


Also 100% agree - thou my experience with ketamine is very very limited, also DMT - just a chance meeting - but the other two I have done some more expansive experimentation with.

Nonetheless, this close brush with the grim reaper's scythe didn't deter Lilly from further solo flights on K; it only reaffirmed his deeply held conviction that his life was being watched over by higher powers of an extraterrestrial origin. Lilly referred to this network of sublime entities as ECCO, an acronym for "Earth Coincidence Control Office." Lilly was positive that all of these fortuitous coincidences in his life (such as Halecki's life-saving phone call) had been arranged by higher forces; and that whatever unfortunate folly fell into his path along the road to knowledge, ECCO would be there to guide him safely through the tunnel to the light.


This brings to mind what Joe Hillshoist said...
That if you imagine you are the star of the movie, youll probably invite disaster of one sort or another. The only movie where you are the center of the universe is the one within yourself - in the movie of life you are just one little character.

And any "higher intelligences" that contact you either on trips or via other ways, can usually be considered bullshit artists of the sort that the universe is full of, human or not.

And that bullshit artist includes first and foremost your very own mind.
Telling the bullshit from the pearls is one of the biggest hurdles of psychedelics.

A good rule of thumb, easy to remember while trippin too:
"When in doubt, call bullshit"
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Postby American Dream » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:31 am

No doubt about it, Leary, Alpert, Metzner, Lilly were among the many psychedelic researchers with ties to MKULTRA who became real "heads"- so they know what they're talking about.

My concerns would include the ways they were influenced by friends and associates even after they left the program. If what Walt Bowart said about his talk with Tim is true, that means a lot:


"Do you think CIA people were involved in your group in the sixties?" I asked. Without hesitating Leary said, "Of course they were. I would say that eighty percent of my movements, eighty percent of the decisions I made were suggested to me by CIA people... "I like the CIA!" he said. "The game they're playing is better than the FBI. Better than the Saigon police. Better than Franco's police. Better than the Israeli police. They're a thousand times better than the KGB. So it comes down to: who are you going to work for? The Yankees or the Dodgers?"


This reminds me of someone I know, very involved in the early LSD culture of California, a real veteran and an insider. One day I started complaining about the role of the CIA in the drug traffic, alluding tohow this individual's own drug bust could have had something to do with how the traffic is compromised and infiltrated.

He just looked at me for a couple of seconds too long, didn't say much, but finally allowed how, if the CIA had so many good drugs, then that was OK. Or something like that...
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Postby Penguin » Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:37 pm

Yeah.
Im not in the States so here its different. The following info is base on, hearsay of course, and official reports in the newspapers and online. I dont do any kind of business with the mobster mofos, nor do I even know where you could score hash...Nor do I want to know, so no tips needed :)

The hard drugs are in the nands of russian mob and the motorcycle gangs in my country. Hash also mostly but generally only the import level, thou there they dont try to control everything. (I personally never ever never buy hash, and hard drugs no way! - thats like paying blood money here)

All heroin comes from Afghanistan is a safe bet - but thru Russia and ex-soviet countries, controlled by russian mob. With possible ties to CIA of course.

Psychedelics is another matter here. Its safe to say that all acid and most other psychedelics that comes to country is brought here by some hippie, or mailed from abroad, to some hippie. Criminal involvement in these kinds is minimal. All bud and shrooms 95% are domestic production by small time homegrowers (and couple species shrooms grow wild in the summer) - some bud ops by criminals have been busted but in a country as small as this, they are bound to get busted sooner rather than later.

The psychedelics producers in Europe have also been a varied lot. Ecstacy, speed and the sort, buck-bringing party drugs of the masses are in the hands of criminal leagues mostly, with the off enterprising chemistry student here and there. But I bet most acid and research chemical chemists are of this sort - guys with knowledge of chemistry, home lab and access to chemicals via workplace etc. Some companies still exist that send research compunds (like Shulgins work in Tihkal and Pihkal) by mail order. That used to be the main avenue until 10 years ago - and many of the substances then legal have now been criminalized here too.

What comes to earlier discussion, and the messages of impending doom caused by the human race, and the dangers of nuclear weapons and power? Well, they seem to be true dangers to me - especially with all the shit going down in Pakistan now. A mate just came from India a while ago, said it was pretty chilling at times, with heavily armed authorities searching for terrorists and such stuff.
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Postby monkeytribe23 » Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:21 pm

Isn't it curious that all these extraterrestrial worlds have names with
a similar structure of four characters: AFFA, UMMO, ERRA, two
vowels separated by a repeated consonant?

- Jaques Vallee, Revelations p194


[Francis] - AFFA - 1953

Billy Meier - ERRA - begins 1942/53

[French / Spanish contactees?] - UMMO - 1967

Lilly - ECCO - 1974

RAW - Sirius Transmissions - 1973

Leary - Starseed Transmissions - 1973

PKD - VALIS - 1973(?)

Geller - SPECTRA - 1971

Charlie Manson - ATWA - 1968

There are so many more...

Sirius Rising

In his book on the Israeli psychic Uri Geller, Dr. Andrija Puharich, a neurologist of some professional reputation which he is presumably not eager to destroy by going out on a limb, asserts that both he and Geller have frequently received com-munications from extraterrestrials. The learned community by and large assumes that Dr. Puharich has flipped out.

Dr. John Lilly, internationally known psychoanalyst, neuro-anatomist, cyberneticist, mathematician and delphinol-ogist, gently hints that he has also received such communica-tions. Academia, relieved that Dr. Lilly is only hinting and not saying it outright, happily ignores the potential breakthrough.

Dr. Timothy Leary asserted interstellar telepathy in 1973. Since Leary was already in disgrace and prison, nobody paid any attention.

R. Buckminster Fuller, the most renowned scientist-philosopher alive, was the next to state that he sometimes thinks he receives messages from interstellar telepaths. Despite Fuller's world-wide status, nobody seems to have heard this message from him.

Most recently, Dr. Jack Sarfatti, physicist, described his own extraterrestrial ESP flashes, in an article in the San Fran-cisco magazine City. Nobody paid any attention.

Any grocer or state policeman who has such an experience will immediately be reported in tabloids or even on TV, but nobody seems to want to hear this from trained scientific observers. Is it that we are afraid we cannot dismiss them as nuts so easily as we do the grocers and state troopers?

Suppose I were to tell you that over 100 scientists in the United States have by now had this experience? That figure was supplied by Saul Paul Sirag. Sirag says that so far most of these scientists are only willing to discuss the matter with trusted colleagues, but that more of them lately are consider-ing the possibility of coming out of the closet and talking about it in public.

Sirag adds that many of this group no longer believe the experience is literally extraterrestrial, although that is still one of the favorite models for describing it.

Robert Anton Wilson, Cosmic Trigger, p78.
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Postby Penguin » Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:42 pm

Thanks, fellow monkey.
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Postby alwyn » Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:21 pm

Do you think that there's something to the idea that
extraterrestrial intelligences are the angels or spirit-guides of the technological age?

I'm remembering Crowleys knowledge and conversation with ones' guardian angel, (if I"m remembering correctly, it's been a while) as one of the aims of Magick. And that communication is telepathic.
question authority?
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Postby Penguin » Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:29 pm

alwyn wrote:Do you think that there's something to the idea that
extraterrestrial intelligences are the angels or spirit-guides of the technological age?

I'm remembering Crowleys knowledge and conversation with ones' guardian angel, (if I"m remembering correctly, it's been a while) as one of the aims of Magick. And that communication is telepathic.


Perhaps, I dunno.
Need to come back to this later, I need to think about that one a little.
Nice question.
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Postby Ben D » Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:16 pm

alwyn wrote:Do you think that there's something to the idea that
extraterrestrial intelligences are the angels or spirit-guides of the technological age?


Yes, IMO the true organizing principle of evolutionary unfoldment on Earth has always originated from a 'higher' plane, i.e. angelic beings from both local and extraterrestrial sources.

It is also possible that given the current transition to the space age, it has necessitated some to have incarnated here in this physical plane in human form.

Lastly, it is most likely that there is no consensus among these various entities as to the readiness of the terrestrial human species to become a solar species and hence a potential for conflict the likes of which WWI and II, and the cold war would be seen as mere opening gambits.
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Re: Starseed transmissions

Postby mentalgongfu2 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:00 am

Never done K myself, but after seeing this old thread, am compelled to make a few observations on the framing by the author in the OP article posted by AD. It's an intriguing story, no doubt. I was reading casually, took a break, and a few things popped out at me when I returned to finish the article. I don't have time now to do a full deconstruction, but something rubs me wrong, especially since I checked the OP at conspiracy archive and see no references to explain the research or interviews upon which this story is based.

As his haphazard use of K intensified, so did the warnings of imminent dangers regarding the survival of mankind, provided by ECCO via 3D Technicolor images beamed into Lilly's mind.


What kind of visions should be expected? Something other than "3d technicolor?" Should his visions be in two-dimensional black and white?

A young intern who had been assigned to Lilly during this time figured the good doctor had finally flipped his high intelligent lid and attempted to have Lilly committed to a psychiatric hospital. Once again ECCO intervened. Lilly had friends in many high places one of which was the director of this hospital, who saw to it that his old friend was released in short order. When the intrepid intern attempted to commit Lilly to another psychiatric hospital, the same scenario unfolded, and Lilly was once again released. The young intern could only shake his frustrated head in disbelief.


Who is this young intern, unnamed, anonymous? Did the author see him "shake his frustrated head in disbelief?" Who is the unnamed director of the unnamed hospital?

When Dr. Lilly decided to ride his ten-speed bike down the road to meet his wife, the drug had not yet taken full effect. But midway through his trip, Lilly was zapped by its intoxicating magic and instantly felt quite wonderful with the wind blowing deliciously through his hair; it was as if he'd taken a trip down memory lane to the days of his free wheeling youth. Unfortunately, this flashbackfull sense of euphoria came screeching to a disastrous halt when the bike chain suddenly jammed, and he was catapulted onto the harsh reality of the concrete pavement, puncturing a lung, breaking several ribs, and suffering cranial contusions.


On what is this description of what Lilly felt based? How does the author know Lilly was "zapped by intoxicating magic and instantly felt quite wonderful with the wind blowing deliciously through his hair? That he'd taken a trip down memory lane before being "catapulted onto the harsh reality of the concrete pavement?"
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