Gunman in Black Combat Gear Kills 10+ at German School

[Avalon]

Which time to use to mark ""when" it happened: for school murders, you have a limited amount of hours in the day in which to do it, and only 5 days of the week.

Wouldn't a more crucial time be when the decision was firmly made that that day and that hour would be the time? If a periodic outside influence was going over the school site at the time of the shootings, it still might not be as crucial as he had to spend time the day beforehand deciding and preparing for it.

Mar/April: Check Easter dates for correlation, and Spring or Easter break dates for each particular school that year. For years, our school district usually started spring break on Good Friday, and had it go for the week after Easter. But recently they've been having it be the week before Easter, possibly because they don't have to take Good Friday off as a separate holiday that way. If there were multiple perpetrators, being able to meet for a few days during break might be a consideration.

There's been some correlation with sidereal time being correlated with with a rise in psi ability. If you had the time of the decisions, that might be possibly relevant.

[slomo]

Here's a plot for the four planetary aspects mentioned above:



red+gray = MARS+MOON
blue+yellow = JUPITER+SUN
blue+orange = JUPITER+ORANGE
black+green = SATURN+VENUS

[Fat Lady Singing]

OK, I plotted all the locations on a Google map. I wish I knew how to share it anonymously, because I'd really rather not put myself out there, you know? But anyway, I'm not sure there are any conclusions to be drawn, anyway -- no big patterns, really.

In general, the majority on this list have occurred in small towns or suburbs rather than big cities, although there are some big cities in the mix. Makes me wonder if there isn't an element of "small town syndrome" behind it -- you know, everybody's all up in everybody else's business, people being more judgmental perhaps, oddballs are maybe more ostracized than in larger cities, where they might find more people like themselves. Not, of course, that small towns are always like that, but I'd think the sense of isolation would be more acute. I also think (but don't know) that smaller towns are less affluent, but that's probably not true of suburbs.

In the US, there haven't been any incidents in the upper Midwest, except for Minnesota. There seems to be a slight concentration in the southeast quadrant of the geographical US, as well as states along the northern border.

I gotta go do Saturday things, but hopefully I'll have time to come back to this soon.

[slomo]

Which time to use to mark ""when" it happened: for school murders, you have a limited amount of hours in the day in which to do it, and only 5 days of the week.

I am using the information I have. The most complete source I have found does not mention time in any consistent manner. Nor will it matter for any of the analyses I did, except possibly for moon phase (and even then the error is within 1/30).

Wouldn't a more crucial time be when the decision was firmly made that that day and that hour would be the time? If a periodic outside influence was going over the school site at the time of the shootings, it still might not be as crucial as he had to spend time the day beforehand deciding and preparing for it.

How do you propose we establish the decision time for each of these 58 events?

Mar/April: Check Easter dates for correlation, and Spring or Easter break dates for each particular school that year. For years, our school district usually started spring break on Good Friday, and had it go for the week after Easter. But recently they've been having it be the week before Easter, possibly because they don't have to take Good Friday off as a separate holiday that way. If there were multiple perpetrators, being able to meet for a few days during break might be a consideration.

I would need that calendrical data, which I do not have.

There's been some correlation with sidereal time being correlated with with a rise in psi ability. If you had the time of the decisions, that might be possibly relevant.

I don't see any association with sidereal time: P=0.4689.

[Fat Lady Singing]

Here's a plot for the four planetary aspects mentioned above:

I'm really unfamiliar with astrology. Is there any particular significance you're seeing?

[slomo]

OK, I plotted all the locations on a Google map. I wish I knew how to share it anonymously, because I'd really rather not put myself out there, you know? But anyway, I'm not sure there are any conclusions to be drawn, anyway -- no big patterns, really.

Try ImageShack. You don't need to create an account or provide any email address. They'll have your IP address, but "they" always have that.

[slomo]

Here's a plot for the four planetary aspects mentioned above:

I'm really unfamiliar with astrology. Is there any particular significance you're seeing?

Well... I'm a scientist by training, so I'm not "supposed to" believe in astrology. I'm using an ephemeris to get moon phases, and the other stuff comes along for free, so I thought I'd go ahead and look at it.

But I grew up with astrology, so I have some exposure. Here are the 4 aspects emphasized in the analysis:

Mars square moon

Saturn conjunct Venus

Jupiter semisquare Sun and Jupiter semisquare Mercury

[KeenInsight]

Telegraph - Don't blame Germany's school shooting on a video game.

It puzzles me, this implication that violent "low art" is to blame. "High art" often contains shocking violence, too, yet one never reads an article that implies a connection between "high art" and murder.

Nobody, I feel fairly sure, would suggest that Shakespeare is a dangerous influence on the young. Nobody would fret that reading Hamlet might encourage an adolescent loner to murder his uncle, or that Titus Andronicus might prompt him to butcher two men, bake their remains in a pie and feed it to the men's mother. Nobody is campaigning for the removal from the national curriculum of Romeo and Juliet on the grounds that it glamorises suicide.

Like video games, literature has a habit of presenting vile characters in a favourable light. The narrator of A Clockwork Orange is a rapist – a witty, intelligent rapist. The narrator of Lolita is a paedophile – a witty, intelligent paedophile. While I was a teenager, I managed to read both these books without a horrified teacher, parent or indeed journalist dashing them from my hand.

[Alfred Joe's Boy]

"Man kills 4 at gathering in Miami, then kills self"
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MIAMI, Fla. – A man shot four people to death at a family gathering early Sunday, then went home and killed himself, police said.

The shootings apparently stemmed from some sort of domestic dispute, according to a sergeant with the Miami Police Department's homicide division.

Officers got a call shortly after midnight that numerous shots had been fired and a red pickup truck had been spotted leaving the scene. They arrived and found four bodies.

Soon after, someone called 911 to say a house about three miles away was in flames and more shots had been heard. That's where they found the gunman dead.

The names of the victims and gunman aren't being released because family members haven't been notified.

Police said the gunman may have been upset because his wife had left him, but they're still investigating.

[orz]

Tabloid Newspaper - Don't blame school shooting on a video game.

Now THERE's a turnup for the books!

[Gouda]

Don't forget these:

Seven children killed in U.S.-led school attack

US attack 'kills Iraqi children'

and many more where that came from....

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U.N. report: Civilian casualties hit record high in Afghan conflict

The number of civilians killed in armed conflict in Afghanistan rose 40 percent last year, to a record 2,118, a U.N. report said Tuesday.
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Afghan security forces, U.S. and NATO troops killed 828 civilians. Airstrikes -- many at night -- were responsible for the largest percentage of these fatalities.

[Gouda]

Gouda asked:

Might that be the same psychiatric clinic where he just happened to pass by and kill .... the gardener? Why doesn't the media ask or look into this obvious question?

The answer on that has come, barely; better late than never?

Teenage killer Tim Kretschmer had stopped treatment for depression

A teenager who murdered 15 people, including nine pupils at his former school in southern Germany, shot one of his victims at a psychiatric clinic where he had been treated for depression, it emerged yesterday.

Tim Kretschmer was supposed to attend appointments at the clinic in Winnenden but broke off the treatment. On Wednesday he killed a man, thought to be a gardener, outside the clinic minutes after he used his father’s Beretta pistol to murder nine students, eight of them girls, and three teachers.