Dora the Explorer Waterboards Boots the Monkey!

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

MacCruisekeen, what part of priming don't you understand?

Is Viacom the friend of peace and justice?

Is there no such thing as the economic draft in the US?

Are Latin Americans not a target for psyops?

Are kidz not a target of psyops?

Just reread and do some research...

[psynapz]

Your point being, psynapz? That disagreeing with HMW on a bloody internet message board is equivalent to burning him alive? Or what?

If I have something to say, I say it. The images are self-explanatory: HMW gets the torch-and-pitchfork treatment around here a lot, and he usually comes off as more intelligent and well-read than the torch-bearers, which is ironic in a Python-esque way. If I could have found a shot that included both Tabatha Stevens with the nasal codpiece AND the low-budget Python mini-mob, I would have used that instead.

I did actually do an image search for "manatee on fire" but apparently Google Images is overwhelmed by the goings-on of the South Manatee Fire Dept.

Don't take this personally Mac, I was composing this simply to follow up the string of image-only replies that preceded your thoughtful response, which I saw after mine posted.

HMW knows what he's talking about. Unfortunately he seems to be failing to reach a lot of well-read geniuses here with his message, which should be essentially unassailable (Mockingbird, hello).

Hugh, I think the example deconstructions should be set aside with this group. You've got enough research on this that you could and should either write a book and/or put together a documentary video for those interested in these preponderance of coincidences your head is bursting with.

I can appreciate the unwavering drive you have to share with this intense group this important field of study, but I think RI is an audience which needs more specific targeting, as the media super-coincidences obviously don't get the message across here. They've been literally begging you for more meat to chew on, so why not give it to them?

VoxFux said it best in his NYC lecture, "we're living in a fucked up military-grade mind control experiment, and it's working!". Great video, as are the rest of the clips from that persentation (scroll down past Obama story).

I don't know exactly what you should do, but one suggestion would be to take new posts here and post about the historical context as it relates to CIA operations of which you're aware, particularly as it pertains to psyops culture. Examples should at least appear to be something documentable, if not actually documented in the public domain.

You're probably reaching enough lurkers here with your current message that it's worth fielding the vocal criticism, but if you really want to be heard, reaching at least the mentally balanced of your vocal critics such as Mac here might be a winning strategy.

You know, fight psyops with psyops.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

...sorry, I should've included the most obvious...added stuff to my op, too...

There's nothing trivial about psyops for kidz.
Some US towns are debating banning military recruiting of students under 18.
How about...military recruiting of toddlers and pre-adolescents?

Viacom's Dora and Diego are Pentagon recruiting masquerading as kiddie products, just like Disney.

NOTE THE POSITIVE FRAMING OF A PENTAGON + "ADVENTURE" on both the front and back covers of this
Go Diego Go book.
> Diego is already in a pentagon and
wearing a quasi-paramilitary uniform with unit emblem patch-



Subliminal pentagons are embedded in Steven CIA Spielberg's animations for kidz ('The Land that Time Forgot' and 'Animaniacs') and CIA-Hollywood movies, too.

The first instance in a movie I noticed was 'Turner and Hooch' (1989) with Tom Hanks and a big cute dog for the kidz which has carefully framed and choreographed scenes that exploit this priming cue for recruiting and even includes pre-sensitization to geometric figures before and after the pentagon scenes that go by the fastest.

But if you don't get the Diego book cover above, you ain't gonna get it.

...thanks for your comments, psynapz, noted...

[jlaw172364]

I think there is something to what he says, although not every reference may be intentional and some may be coincidences.

For instance, why choose a name like water-boarding, as opposed to say, coercive simulated drowning? Water-boarding conjures up fun images of those floating styrofoam planks we used to play with while swimming. People readily admit that they think water-board isn't that harsh because of how it sounds. Of course, when the Chinese drip drops of water on people's heads, it's "Chinese Water Torture," which is to be feared and reviled.

I always got the distinct impression, as I grew up, that the state was trying to get me to sympathize with its motives and methods through its various propaganda channels. Certain themes would constantly be reinforced. For example, remember how many children's novel heros were either amateur detectives, spies, or other adventuring types? They were always helping the police catch thieves, spies, and even terrorists. And let's not forget all the military-themed cartoons.

Although some may perceive Manatee's theory to be silly or paranoid, I think this is probably exactly the kind of thing cooked up by psychology grad students on grants from the various military and intel agencies. They probably dress it up in a fancy, technical jargon, and then gravely cite various studies they've conducted to bolster their claims.

Who knows how well it works, if at all.

[orz]

Anyone who thinks children's media is merely innocent fluff and free of fascist agendas must've missed the 20th century.

NOBODY here thinks that. The existance of fascist agendas in children's media is not mutually exclusive with your posts being crazy free-association gibberish which insults the intelligence of the reader and offensively trivialises deadly serious issues for the sake of twee smug irritating conspiracy scene fan-fiction.

[stefano]

I'm just surprised he hasn't made a Bruno - Joerg Haider connection yet.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Such a hoot when trolls can only deny the obvious with ad hominem piffle.

orz, what is Diego sitting in and smiling about? Right.
Even trolls know what a PENTAGON is.

Try a little Piaget and developmental psychology, mkay?

[compared2what?]

Piaget is not as state-of-the-art on every single aspect of childhood development as he used to be, you know. Although his work is and was very influential, as well as quite delightful to engage with philosophically. As well as quite complex. It is, of course, a matter of opinion, but I'd also say that its value derives from his exceptional -- indeed, almost visionary -- gifts as an epistemological theoretician rather than as an empirical research scientist.

Anyway. Long story short. I'm confused and have a question.

What principle of Piaget and/or developmental psychology are you directing me to try? The influence of psychosocial power dynamics on cognitive apprehensions of what is and isn't "right" in the sense of "proper"? Because he didn't hold that to be the be-all and end-all of either moral or intellectual development in childhood, IIRC. Although it's been a while, I do admit. But just inherently, he wasn't into be-alls and end-alls of that kind as a matter of....You'd kind of have to say "moral principle," I suppose. That's kind of one of the things that makes him so delightful.

Anyway. Could you unpack the shorthand? I don't understand it. For which I take my 100 percent of fifty percent of the responsibility, needless to say.

But, you know. It's enough of an area of interest, that I'd like to understand it, if possible.

[AlicetheKurious]

For instance, why choose a name like water-boarding, as opposed to say, coercive simulated drowning? Water-boarding conjures up fun images of those floating styrofoam planks we used to play with while swimming. People readily admit that they think water-board isn't that harsh because of how it sounds. Of course, when the Chinese drip drops of water on people's heads, it's "Chinese Water Torture," which is to be feared and reviled.

That's a very insightful observation -- the very name "water-boarding", with all its happy associations, seems designed to set up a huge psychological barrier that must be overcome before people can apprehend the horror of this type of torture. This was my own experience with the term, it prevented me from taking it seriously as a form of sadistic abuse -- until I read an account describing in detail how it feels.

[ultramegagenius]

it's a lot better than 'wake-boarding,' in which you are drugged into oblivion and placed into an open coffin, whereupon a group of paid-actors impersonate your friends and relatives spitting into your casket as they recount your countless failures and inadequacies.

and even that is preferable to 'body-boarding,' in which case you are tied down to a board and objectified as a flesh-and-blood body but nothing else. after your instance of disease is mediated long enough for your fat to marble, the board with you tied to it is tied to the hook of a mid-air conveyor belt, whereupon low-paid humans skin you and slice you up into all of the standard commercial meat portions salable to their species.

[marmot]

Dudes! Waterboarding (or wakeboarding) is one of the most excilerating of sports out there!

[marmot]

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[ultramegagenius]

it sounds ludicrous that people sit around and pre-plan various 'interference' and 'inoculation' memes to be injected into the social consciousness with flawless precision. what is far more likely however, and quite in line with many of the proposals of one Mr. HMW, is that from all of the countless starving shlock writers churning out reams of whatever sticks, it is the directives from the connected owners that lead the agendas of the editors, and this is how tendentious material repeatedly finds its way into the most popular channels.

how many sob-stories have you heard of good content producers being rejected in favor of whoever was more in-line with the dominant meme of the day? can't we sort of postulate that the entire profit system that the thugs serve is also the same mechanism by which ideas are screened and pruned at the editorial level in order to strike a balance between the propaganda imperatives and the receptive potential of said product? in line with Mr. HMW, it's assumable that the historical conditions canalizing receptivity are themselves largely the product of various informational practices as well as various crafted events and conditions arising from the relations of production.

[orz]

Even trolls know what a PENTAGON is.

Still doesn't make you right or your posts worthwhile. You don't get it... even if in this specific instance that common geometric shape was used deliberately for the reasons you say, your posts as a body of work would still be no good.

Plus it's the same oloh forget it

[H_C_E]

Because this entire thread is enough to make anyone suspect that you're working for the CIA, even if only as Court Jester and Timewaster-in-Chief

I've been thinking the same thing for same time, but hadn't said as much.
Reason being that sort of thing caused problems here at RI sometime back. But yes, I think Hugh is a spook Trojan Horse.

And there are connections between everything everywhere, you just have to look for them. Anyone who has used LSD excessivley for extended periods can attest to this. Pretty soon the most innocent joke becomes part of a vast plot. Or Dora and Hollywood movies become mind control (as opposed to mind-rot)

HCE