[social studies] The Zombie fascination in century 20.1

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Re: [social studies] The Zombie fascination in century 20.1

Postby JackRiddler » Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:09 am

MacCruiskeen wrote:*I'm working on a screenplay called Fast Zombies, but I fear the CIA will kill me before I complete it. It's a revolutionary new idea, and it might give those zombies ideas above their station. ("Just move more quickly, you fools!")


Fast Zombies was done as "28 Days Later." Sorry.

(I heard a radio bit with Romero once where someone called "28 Days" a zombie movie, and he practically bit the interviewer's head off: "Those aren't zombies! They're not dead!" Technically this was true.)
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Re: [social studies] The Zombie fascination in century 20.1

Postby MacCruiskeen » Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:00 am

JackRiddler wrote:
Fast Zombies was done as "28 Days Later." Sorry.


Shit. Well, back to the drawing board. I have another pathbreaking idea up my sleeve, about slow cars. It's called Slow Cars.

Zombies are the dullest and crappest and most ludicrously incompetent baddies ever invented. Lazy villains for a lazy age. I think people go to-and-fro between identifying with them and identifying with their dynamic sexy killers. It's a horrible way to be, and the only easily (lazily) imaginable way out of it is a violent (second) death.

See Wilhelm Reich on "sitting", and also on what's called masochism.
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Re: [social studies] The Zombie fascination in century 20.1

Postby Twyla LaSarc » Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:04 am

It's almost too perfect:

I go to netflix streaming and what should pop up? The Omega Man.

http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/The_O ... id=2431214

Should I be amused or afraid? :)
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Re: [social studies] The Zombie fascination in century 20.1

Postby Forgetting2 » Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:41 am

Many levels to this. A lot of the above I agree with.

It seems to me the fear of becoming zombie is a big emotional part of the stories. Fear of continuity without knowing, maybe.

There's most often a member of the group which is running away who becomes infected and tries to hide it. Always a big plot turn when the infected person is finally revealed to the group as completely inhuman. Also, usually we don't see the infected person undergo the moment of transformation from human to zombie. Usually it's offscreen or the face is hidden. That's part of the mystery and the ritual as it's performed in movies, I think. At what point did they become inhuman? Can it be identified? How close to inhuman can the members of the running group allow an infected member to get? How much can they hold on to the humanity of their best friend or their 'other half,' even. 'He just turned and came at me.' A sudden shock of realization - what you knew is gone and it's never coming back. Now what? Fear and running, but the worst possible fate: becoming. 'If that happens to me, you'll take care of it right?'

While they're running there's still some hope. The hidden infected one usually hangs back, pretending to hope.

Our is world spiraling out of control in some super creepy ways and most seem content to go along with it. 'If I become like that you'll take care of it, right?'

(Bill Murrey's turn as a a guy who hides among the zombies by pretending to be one was pretty dang funny. I think that was Zombieland. Is that what you call post-zombie thinking?)
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Re: [social studies] The Zombie fascination in century 20.1

Postby Bruce Dazzling » Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:42 am



Maryland man charged with killing, eating man's brain, heart
By Justin Fenton, Kayla Bawroski and Kevin Rector, Baltimore Sun Media Group
8:34 p.m. EDT, May 31, 2012


The 21-year-old college student allegedly told detectives that he hadn't just killed the man who'd lived with his family for months, but had eaten his heart and portions of his brain. The victim's severed head and hands were found in the men's Harford County home; more remains were left in a trash container outside a church.

Authorities outlined the macabre circumstances Thursday in charges against Alexander Kinyua, an electrical engineering major at Morgan State University and member of his school's ROTC program, of first-degree murder in the death of 37-year-old Kujoe Bonsafo Agyei-Kodie, a Ghanaian national and a former master's degree student.

Kinyua's father reported that Agyei-Kodie went missing last Friday after going for a jog, but the investigation eventually led back to the family home. Kinyua was being held Thursday without bond, and authorities were exploring whether others participated in the crime or knew about it, based on what they called inconsistencies in statements made by the suspect's family.

Harford authorities said the killing was among the most brutal — and bizarre — they'd seen. The case comes on the heels of grisly incidents in Miami — where a naked man believed to be high on synthetic drugs known as "bath salts" ate another man's face — and New Jersey, where a man disemboweled himself and reportedly threw his intestines at police officers.

Harford County Sheriff Jesse Bane said of the allegations against Kinyua: "I've been with the agency 40 years, and I would say this is the first time I can remember … where someone was placed under arrest in Harford County and as part of his crime he consumed the victim.

"I've not encountered that in this county, and I hope we never encounter it again," he added.

Despite Kinyua's alleged confession, which a spokeswoman described as "matter-of-fact," police said they did not know of a motive for the crime and said they would not speculate on his mental state or whether drugs played a role. They were consulting with the FBI's behavioral analysis unit for guidance.

But accounts from Morgan officials and classmates, as well as social media postings by Kinyua, suggest he was growing increasingly troubled as his third year of school came to a close. In January, he was dismissed from the ROTC program after an outburst, and in May he was arrested for allegedly fracturing the skull of a classmate with a baseball bat. The classmate was blinded in one eye as a result of what campus police called a "random" attack.

His Facebook page includes commentary about the "destruction of the black family" and "mass human sacrifices."

"THIS IS THE BRUTAL BASIS, AN EVIL & TERRIFYING METHOD OF THIS DEATH CULTS," he wrote in one message.

Students familiar with Kinyua said he was well known around campus but regarded as odd. Jasmine Bloomfield said he was "always in his own little world, preaching everywhere he went and talking about how he was writing a book."

Natalie Fabien, 21, who had mutual friends with Kinyua, said his behavior was often unusual and he was prone to outbursts, but also showed genuine concern for others. "If anything ever happened to me, he'd be like, 'Who did it and why?' He always wanted to protect people from bad stuff," Fabien said.

Word of Kinyua's arrest was a hot topic Thursday around Morgan's campus, even though most of its 7,000 students are on summer break. "If you're part of the Morgan family, it's a big family, so word goes around fast," said Stephen Copeland, 28, a senior. "Everybody's in shock."

The victim, Agyei-Kodie, had also attended Morgan State on a student visa. He was dismissed by the university after a 2008 conviction in Baltimore County for a fourth-degree sex offense, harassment and stalking, resulting in an 18-month jail term. He also had attended Towson University for a time, a spokeswoman for that school confirmed.

Agyei-Kodie had lived with Kinyua's family in the 500 block of Terrapin Terrace in Joppa for about six months and did not know anyone else in the area, according to police reports. Kinyua's father, Antony, told police that Agyei-Kodie had recently been "depressed" after being apprehended on an immigration warrant and was facing likely deportation.

Police issued a public appeal Monday for help in finding Agyei-Kodie, who was said to have left for a jog at 5:30 a.m. on May 25 wearing a T-shirt and black athletic shorts. Monica Worrell, a county police spokeswoman, said investigators had concerns about statements made by Kinyua's family.

Late Tuesday night, Antony Kinyua notified police that his son, Jarrod Kinyua, had found what they believed were human remains in the basement of the house, according to charging documents. Upon their arrival, Jarrod Kinyua told police he found a human head and two human hands inside metal tins under a blanket in the laundry room.

When he asked Alexander Kinyua about the remains, Jarrod Kinyua said, his brother denied that they were human and said they were animal remains, according to charging documents. After calling his father downstairs, Jarrod and Antony Kinyua discovered that the remains had been moved and Alexander Kinyua was washing out the metal tins.

With a search-and-seizure warrant for the location, deputies were able to locate the head and hands on the main floor of the house, according to charging documents.

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Re: [social studies] The Zombie fascination in century 20.1

Postby Jeff » Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:50 am

A realistic zombie film would include a group of zombies who speak of something called "peak humans," but these zombies would be generally grunted and moaned down by the normal zombies, and ignored entirely by the congressional zombies, who act as though supplies of humans are infinite.... In a realistic zombie movie, too many humans would try to stop the zombies by gardening, taking shorter showers, recycling, petitioning.... In a realistic zombie movie, most of the zombies would never even know that they themselves are zombies.


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Re: [social studies] The Zombie fascination in century 20.1

Postby Simulist » Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:19 am

Jeff wrote:
A realistic zombie film would include a group of zombies who speak of something called "peak humans," but these zombies would be generally grunted and moaned down by the normal zombies, and ignored entirely by the congressional zombies, who act as though supplies of humans are infinite.... In a realistic zombie movie, too many humans would try to stop the zombies by gardening, taking shorter showers, recycling, petitioning.... In a realistic zombie movie, most of the zombies would never even know that they themselves are zombies.


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Oh, wow. Yeah.
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Re: [social studies] The Zombie fascination in century 20.1

Postby Peregrine » Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:32 am

Jeff wrote:
A realistic zombie film would include a group of zombies who speak of something called "peak humans," but these zombies would be generally grunted and moaned down by the normal zombies, and ignored entirely by the congressional zombies, who act as though supplies of humans are infinite.... In a realistic zombie movie, too many humans would try to stop the zombies by gardening, taking shorter showers, recycling, petitioning.... In a realistic zombie movie, most of the zombies would never even know that they themselves are zombies.


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Re: [social studies] The Zombie fascination in century 20.1

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Re: [social studies] The Zombie fascination in century 20.1

Postby Canadian_watcher » Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:24 pm

out of character for me, this is what I painted 3 weeks ago:

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Re: [social studies] The Zombie fascination in century 20.1

Postby Canadian_watcher » Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:27 pm

sorry, that is huge. and not really a zombie, but something tearing apart a child is not my usual subject matter. monstrous former humans are so de rigueur in our culture at the moment I had to give in and paint this image, which kept creeping in to my head for weeks and weeks.

Oh yes, and of course my avatar is what I painted immediately after the one above. I couldn't help it. Both images were just there if you get my artistic meaning.
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Re: [social studies] The Zombie fascination in century 20.1

Postby elfismiles » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:39 pm

Canadian_watcher wrote:sorry, that is huge. and not really a zombie, but something tearing apart a child is not my usual subject matter. monstrous former humans are so de rigueur in our culture at the moment I had to give in and paint this image, which kept creeping in to my head for weeks and weeks.

Oh yes, and of course my avatar is what I painted immediately after the one above. I couldn't help it. Both images were just there if you get my artistic meaning.


Hi CW. Was wondering about your newest avatar .... and on the heels of the monster painting - whooboy!

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Re: [social studies] The Zombie fascination in century 20.1

Postby Jeff » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:57 pm

Seriously, did we need this:

CDC Denies Rumors of Zombie Apocalypse

And thanks for that, CW.
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Re: [social studies] The Zombie fascination in century 20.1

Postby JackRiddler » Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:25 pm

Forgetting2 wrote:It seems to me the fear of becoming zombie is a big emotional part of the stories. Fear of continuity without knowing, maybe.


True enough, but I think an equal part belongs to the desire to become a zombie, or the recognition that we are, in many ways, already zombies. And we'd like to have the excuse that there's no helping it.

But mostly I think it's speaking to the apparently widespread fantasy of being able to justifiably and individually kill everyone, every last motherfucker making you feel crowded in mass society, without regard to age, creed, color or ideology. As MacC said, I think, and I agree with his take.
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Re: [social studies] The Zombie fascination in century 20.1

Postby Canadian_watcher » Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:53 pm

Jeff wrote:Seriously, did we need this:

CDC Denies Rumors of Zombie Apocalypse

And thanks for that, CW.


Oh. My. God.

and you're welcome. :partydance:
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