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Re: Giffords shooting

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:20 pm

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Re: Giffords shooting

Postby jingofever » Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:39 pm

This guy doesn't strike me as a Freeper or anything like that. He just seems insane, based on those videos.
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Re: Giffords shooting

Postby Simulist » Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:46 pm

Based on what is said to be his YouTube video, Jared Lee Loughner, the alleged shooter and Afghanistan war veteran, appeared to believe that "the government" is using "mind control" to brainwash "the people" by "controlling grammar."



[EDIT: Changed "people" to "the people"]
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Re: Giffords shooting

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:48 pm

Giffords is still alive
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Re: Giffords shooting

Postby jingofever » Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:53 pm

Lots of hubbub because he listed the Communist Manifesto as one of his favorite books, along with Mein Kampf. Nobody is mentioning We the Living. He is obviously a crazed Ayn Rand fan.
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Re: Giffords shooting

Postby Simulist » Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:00 pm

My apologies. This is the video in which Mr. Loughner mentions "mind control":

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Re: Giffords shooting

Postby Pele'sDaughter » Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:45 pm

Here's the unredacted FB page.

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=373854973434

Check out today's comments.
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Re: Giffords shooting

Postby Luther Blissett » Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:46 pm

It must be so difficult for fringe-right websites to reconcile their conspiracy theories with their views as they communicate them to people like Loughner.
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Re: Giffords shooting

Postby DoYouEverWonder » Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:48 pm



Jared posted this one as a favorite.

Seems a little closer to his current state of mind.

"Let the bodies hit the floor"

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Re: Giffords shooting

Postby Pele'sDaughter » Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:51 pm

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Re: Giffords shooting

Postby Canadian_watcher » Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:54 pm

okay, okay.. I'm going to play Dark Advocate here...

where's all the rigour? Seems to me that the lot are buying in hook line & sinker to the 'this is obviously some right wing lunatic who was egged on by crosshairs formations on a Tea-Bag Queen's website" I mean duh. Clearly that's what we're supposed to think.

Maybe it will turn out to be true.. but usually this place is full of minds that do not immediately lap up the pap. right? From where I sit "they've" got your number on this one.
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Re: Giffords shooting

Postby Simulist » Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:59 pm

I agree with you, CW. What we really know about this man and his motivations is minimal at best so far.
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Re: Giffords shooting

Postby DoYouEverWonder » Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:00 pm

Canadian_watcher wrote:okay, okay.. I'm going to play Dark Advocate here...

where's all the rigour? Seems to me that the lot are buying in hook line & sinker to the 'this is obviously some right wing lunatic who was egged on by crosshairs formations on a Tea-Bag Queen's website" I mean duh. Clearly that's what we're supposed to think.

Maybe it will turn out to be true.. but usually this place is full of minds that do not immediately lap up the pap. right? From where I sit "they've" got your number on this one.

Go watch his 'favorite' video that I just posted above and then tell me this guy isn't a teabagger who went off the deep end.
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Re: Giffords shooting

Postby Canadian_watcher » Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:03 pm

DoYouEverWonder wrote:
Canadian_watcher wrote:okay, okay.. I'm going to play Dark Advocate here...

where's all the rigour? Seems to me that the lot are buying in hook line & sinker to the 'this is obviously some right wing lunatic who was egged on by crosshairs formations on a Tea-Bag Queen's website" I mean duh. Clearly that's what we're supposed to think.

Maybe it will turn out to be true.. but usually this place is full of minds that do not immediately lap up the pap. right? From where I sit "they've" got your number on this one.

Go watch his 'favorite' video that I just posted above and then tell me this guy isn't a teabagger who went off the deep end.


All I can really tell is that he's a young white guy who (allegedly) went off the deep end.
Down with all young white guys!

edited to add 'allegedly'
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Re: Giffords shooting

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:08 pm

Another shooting victim, a federal judge named John Roll, had been placed under 24-hour security in 2009 after ruling in favor of illegal immigrants in a high-profile case. It's unclear why he was at the supermarket event or whether the gunman was targeting him or Giffords. But for almost a year now, Arizona politicians have been grappling with anti-immigration sentiments, inflamed by reports of crossborder violence. National media attention, with its attendant voices of hysteria, only added to the churn. Pundits spoke gravely about a wave of violence, born in Mexico and now flooding Arizona. Arizona's two most famous politicians fueled the fury. Republican Senator John McCain, facing an unexpected reelection challenge from the right, ran a campaign obsessed with crossborder crime. And GOP Governor Jan Brewer, who invited the national spotlight by championing strict anti-illegal immigrant legislation, talked of beheadings in the desert.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article ... z1AUKFA8lO
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