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Nordic wrote:The first two vids look and sound completely real. If it's fake, whoever faked it managed to use completely different types of "motion blur" for the end, when the thing takes off. In the first one it's a streak, as you'd have with a film camera, or with a video camera that's got a sorta normal shutter speed to it, and the second one shows the stuttery stop-action look of many new video cameras, where they sample at a higher rate. So if it is fake, they went to a lot of trouble to fake that.
There's no traffic lights moving
the light flares don't move
there's nothing twinkling through the atmosphere
if it's really that zoomed in, while are the moves so smooth? To have such smooth moves like that so zoomed in, one would have to have a really nice fluid tripod head. Most tourists don't even know what that is.
Then there's no flash
the ball itself doesn't have any glow around it, which would be natural given the way the other lights flare in the lens and the atmosphere.
Also, the ball itself is too small compared to the balls shown in the first two vids.
Then there's the cheesy voiceover, with people going "ooooh!" like it was a fireworks show or something.
Why would somebody fake a third video?
Ball lightning is a proposed atmospheric electrical phenomenon of which little is known. The term refers to reports of luminous, usually spherical objects which vary from pea-sized to several meters in diameter. It is usually associated with thunderstorms, but lasts considerably longer than the split-second flash of a lightning bolt. Many of the early reports say that the ball eventually explodes, sometimes with fatal consequences, leaving behind the odor of sulfur. There are records of free-floating glowing balls that occur in total absence of thunderclouds. This occurs commonly in the valley of Hessdalen, Norway.[1] One recent theory suggests that these light balls (Hessdalen Lights) are produced by the ionization of air and dust by alpha particles during radon decay in the dusty atmosphere.[2]
Laboratory experiments have produced effects that are visually similar to reports of ball lightning, but it is presently unknown whether these are actually related to any naturally occurring phenomenon. Scientific data on natural ball lightning are scarce. The presumption of its existence is based on reported public sightings, and has therefore produced somewhat inconsistent findings. Given inconsistencies and the lack of reliable data, the true nature of ball lightning is still unknown.[3] Until recently, ball lightning was often regarded as a fantasy or a hoax, but some serious scientific discussions and theories have attempted to explain it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_lightning
tazmic wrote:"You can hardly look at it."
Didn't they say that in the first videos I posted about Ball Lightning UFO's?
tazmic wrote:I think I'd expect the behavior of ball lightning to be somewhat related to that of lightning, which I'm told is rather partial to spires.
barracuda wrote:tazmic wrote:I think I'd expect the behavior of ball lightning to be somewhat related to that of lightning, which I'm told is rather partial to spires.
That's a good point, as I it is reported that the Dome of the Rock was set on fire by a lightning strike in 1447.
The Great Thunderstorm of Widecombe-in-the-Moor
One of the earliest descriptions was reported during The Great Thunderstorm at a church in Widecombe-in-the-Moor, Devon, in England, on 21 October 1638. Four people died and approximately 60 were injured when, during a severe storm, an 8-foot (2.4 m) ball of fire was described as striking and entering the church, nearly destroying it. Large stones from the church walls were hurled into the ground and through large wooden beams. The ball of fire allegedly smashed the pews and many windows, and filled the church with a foul sulfurous odor and dark, thick smoke.
The ball of fire reportedly divided into two segments, one exiting through a window by smashing it open, the other disappearing somewhere inside the church. The explanation at the time, because of the fire and sulfur smell, was that the ball of fire was "the devil" or the "flames of hell". Later, some blamed the entire incident on two people who had been playing cards in the pew during the sermon, thereby incurring God's wrath.[7]
The Catherine and Mary
In December 1726 a number of British newspapers printed an extract of a letter from John Howell of the sloop Catherine and Mary:
As we were coming thro’ the Gulf of Florida on the 29th of August, a large ball of fire fell from the Element and split our mast in Ten Thousand Pieces, if it were possible; split our Main Beam, also Three Planks of the Side, Under Water, and Three of the Deck; kill’d one man, another had his Hand carried of,[sic] and had it not been for the violent rains, our Sails would have been of a Blast of Fire.[8][9]
The Montague
One particularly large example was reported "on the authority of Dr. Gregory" in 1749:
Admiral Chambers on board the Montague, November 4, 1749, was taking an observation just before noon...he observed a large ball of blue fire about three miles distant from them. They immediately lowered their topsails, but it came up so fast upon them, that, before they could raise the main tack, they observed the ball rise almost perpendicularly, and not above forty or fifty yards from the main chains when it went off with an explosion, as great as if a hundred cannons had been discharged at the same time, leaving behind it a strong sulphurous smell. By this explosion the main top-mast was shattered into pieces and the main mast went down to the keel. Five men were knocked down and one of them much bruised. Just before the explosion, the ball seemed to be the size of a large mill-stone.[10]
MacCruiskeen wrote:I'm not being pedantic with the scare quotes. Whatever "ball lightning" is, it is not lightning as we know it. I'd say "ball lightning" is not just a misnomer but a pseudo-explanation designed to forestall inquiry.
MacCruiskeen wrote:For instance, a bolt of real lightning discharges when it hits a spire. It doesn't hover over it, bounce off it and then dance around in the air with its pals.
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