An Investment Manager's View on the Top 1%

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Re: An Investment Manager's View on the Top 1%

Postby Elihu » Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:59 am

"If a drought strikes them, animals perish - man builds irrigation canals; if a flood strikes them, animals perish - man builds dams; if a carnivorous pack attacks them, animals perish - man writes the Constitution of the United States." – Ayn Rand

In a world of competition life's portrayed (key word) as a contest where we're forced to live by making gains at others expense,

man's abilities and understanding compared to the natural world is orders of magnitude so great that they could be characterized as "god-like" imo. in civilization, the idea is never to live and relate to each other like animals.

A deconditioned consciousness of mutual respect is the only way to cure this cosmetic disease.

or we could obey the Constitution. imo, doing so would be the realization of something like the above statement...
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Re: An Investment Manager's View on the Top 1%

Postby blanc » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:38 am

A development of the take over of State ( and us all) by banks was the change in the way that social security benefits were delivered in the UK. These used to come either by giving the recipient an order book to take to the post office, where the weeks order would be cashed, or in the case of benefits for which there was no regular entitlement, by getting a single payment order through the post - again cashed at the post office. Now, it is necessary for the recipient to open a bank account (itself no mean feat, several hurdles to jump through), as benefits are paid into bank accounts. This means that all of this public money goes through the banking system, and the personal details of the recipient are in the hands of the banks. Alongside this went a willingness for banks to allow or encourage debt by a section of the population not equipped to deal with it, and a hike in bank charges for debt and default. For those who already have bank accounts, and can deal well with banks - this change in the delivery of benefits was useful, and at first it was an option, but not a requirement.
As one of the few options for resisting this takeover by a small rich elite, as has already been suggested in several places, is withdrawal from the banking system, the enmeshment of just about everyone in it is looking like a very happy accident for those in control.
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Re: An Investment Manager's View on the Top 1%

Postby JackRiddler » Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:32 pm

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bks, absolutely right about Domhoff. He's a big disappointment for having claimed the mantle of Mills, writing books like The Power Elite 2000 (or some similar title; I read it, don't have it at hand) and the like. What killed me about the latter is that he's playing Son of Mills but the Pentagon was barely in the index, and the CIA left out altogether! He had a line about how the military's insignificant since it only represents 3% (at the time) of the total GDP pie, a willful blindness in so many ways, ignoring all the military spending labeled as something else, ignoring the central role in shaping policy and society, ignoring how it provides (until now) indispensable enforcement toward running the goddamn world, ignoring the hyperprofit potentials it allows, of course ignoring the incredible leverage that secret power allows over the public parts of the government... it's kind of like measuring the physical weight of someone's sex drive (balls/ovaries and half the brain, let's say) and declaring that it can't be determinative of very much because it's only a small percentage of one's total body weight.

But anyway, that's not Domhoff talking, it's our financial consultant, and the nice thing about a well-respected scholar like Domhoff giving it to us (instead of Alex Jones, say) is that at least we know it's a real person's testimony.

Elihu wrote:"If a drought strikes them, animals perish - man builds irrigation canals; if a flood strikes them, animals perish - man builds dams; if a carnivorous pack attacks them, animals perish - man writes the Constitution of the United States." – Ayn Rand

In a world of competition life's portrayed (key word) as a contest where we're forced to live by making gains at others expense,

man's abilities and understanding compared to the natural world is orders of magnitude so great that they could be characterized as "god-like" imo. in civilization, the idea is never to live and relate to each other like animals.

A deconditioned consciousness of mutual respect is the only way to cure this cosmetic disease.

or we could obey the Constitution. imo, doing so would be the realization of something like the above statement...


Fine until your last line, I'd say. Where do people get such an essentially religious idea?

In the 1770s, the top 0.1% of the time looked West and saw a seemingly endless continent that they could conquer from the natives with relatively little trouble. The main obstacle was a pesky notional Line of Demarcation that the Crown and Parliament had drawn on some map back in London, restricting the colonists to the coastal areas east of the Appalachians. Then they looked East and saw London was 6,000 miles away. That's why your Founders declared Independence and your Federalists (an essentially separate group) later framed a new Constitution. Lucky for us there was enough anti-Federalist upheaval (among the white men who were the only acknowledged full humans of the time) to at least force a Bill of Rights. All the best things about this country have come about thanks to those who struggled against the original vision of your Constitution, forcing amendments and building institutions that the Federalists had not imagined.

justdrew wrote:someone should ask the author of the OP what those top .1% are doing with their children?


Sending them to Harvard, Yale, etc. Finding one or two to run the show and giving the rest sinecure jobs in their own foundations, or capital for ventures if so inclined. Just as the Corleone goal is to shift the wealth secured from crime into legal pursuits, the top 0.1% seek to shift the wealth secured from legalized plunders into the non-profit entities that shape society and an impenetrable, largely off-shore structure of holding companies holding holding companies. The robber baron seeks to become (or to be succeeded by) something known as a philanthropist. The old money in this country has institutionalized itself to such a degree that some of the best known family empires are as rich as ever, but the individuals no longer appear on these Forbes lists of billionaires and the like. So it has been until now, with many of the super-rich understanding the need to restore some of the society's ability to sustain the damage they do, sponsoring universities, charities, churches and other institutions, albeit always with a view to reproducing ideologies compatible with their continued existence. Now, with capitalist civilization facing an end stage that may extend for another century or see global production collapses tomorrow, more of the top .5% than ever are seeking simply to become invisible: to render their wealth untraceable, to establish themselves in relatively discreet high-security enclaves, to exert economic control over nations at a remove, to have their names unknown to the world.

The figure that says the top 1% make 25% of the income and hold 40% of the wealth is a substantial underestimation, by the way. Most of the wealth held by the 99% or even 99.5% is in the form of primary housing. That represents security, but it's not disposable. It's not investable. It's not power. Even a high-earning professional with a bit of wealth and a fancy home (and children's college bills) cannot alone make the development decisions for his or her town as a whole. That person by himself doesn't get to place power plants or raze neighborhoods for an office park, or set up think tanks on the Potomac to directly influence Congress, or pay a billion dollars straight out of his pocket to establish foundations that attack Social Security (like Petersen) or assault the teachers union (like Gates).

Furthermore, large-scale capital never acts alone; it attracts borrowed capital and holds the mode of production through proxies of privileged stock and holding companies. If I own a majority share of voting shares in Company X at $4 million in stock (which counts as my personal wealth), that may give me access and control to company assets of $40 million and similar totals in company credit and cash flow. Also, I get to use the company jet, managerial retreats, etc. Let's call that a part of my indirect wealth, my corporatized. (In addition, there is extralegal wealth for example, drug money that goes altogether unaccounted, but let's leave that out for the moment.) Subtract housing and add the indirect wealth, and you probably find the top 1% holding 90% or more of the investable, active wealth: ownership of the means of production and the natural wealth from which everything flows.

how many are they having? Are they seeing the kids trained in the same fields or just letting the kids go do whatever they want?


They're having lots. Generally, just a couple get to captain the main ship, while the rest can pursue their dreams individually in chosen professions or as philanthropists, artists, or dumb leisure-society layabouts.

When the wealth is all trickling up, and those at the top are having children, the same old problems of aristocracy would come up wouldn't they?


Absolutely have, since long ago.

Wombaticus Rex wrote:I think that's worth reposting on this forum at least once every 2 weeks, myself. As I often remind myself when I'm on a WOO kick for too long: "Class warfare, class warfare, class warfare."


Thank you for this excellent article, WR. You know of course I will be cross-posting it, with thanks.

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Re: An Investment Manager's View on the Top 1%

Postby Elihu » Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:47 pm

In the 1770s, the top 0.1% of the time looked West and saw a seemingly endless continent that they could conquer from the natives with relatively little trouble. The main obstacle was a pesky notional Line of Demarcation that the Crown and Parliament had drawn on some map back in London, restricting the colonists to the coastal areas east of the Appalachians. Then they looked East and saw London was 6,000 miles away. That's why your Founders declared Independence and your Federalists (an essentially separate group) later framed a new Constitution. Lucky for us there was enough anti-Federalist upheaval (among the white men who were the only acknowledged full humans of the time) to at least force a Bill of Rights. All the best things about this country have come about thanks to those who struggled against the original vision of your Constitution, forcing amendments and building institutions that the Federalists had not imagined.

funny you should mention that. i have recently been reading the summary intro of H.Storing's compendium of ant-federalist thought in the constitutional debates. absolutely fascinating.

"the consolidation of the states into one vast republic, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of that ruin which has overwhelmed all those that have preceded it" (R.E. Lee -Letter of 15 Dec. 1866 to Lord Acton).

i conclude that all the anti-federalist fears and arguments have been completely vindicated.

Fine until your last line, I'd say. Where do people get such an essentially religious idea?

Nevertheless they had their impact on the novel Constitution. I have only one question: have we obeyed it? or even hewn closely to it? the answer is categorically no. every departure from it was one of expedience and subterfuge. particularly odious are amendments 16 & 17 and parts of 14. and as some have pointed out, the siamese twin of 16, the federal reserve act, they didn't even bother to amend the constitution. notice the proximity in time that they came about? coincidence? does it matter?

"If Congress has the right under the Constitution to issue paper money, it was given to be used by themselves, not to be delegated to individuals or corporations."
– Andrew Jackson

The bold effort the present (central) bank had made to control the government ... are but premonitions of the fate that await the American people should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution or the establishment of another like it.
– Andrew Jackson

The distress and sufferings inflicted on the people by the bank are some of the fruits of that system of policy which is continually striving to enlarge the authority of the Federal Government beyond the limits fixed by the Constitution. The powers enumerated in that instrument do not confer on Congress the right to establish such a corporation as the Bank of the United States, and the evil consequences which followed may warn us of the danger of departing from the true rule of construction and of permitting temporary circumstances or the hope of better promoting the public welfare to influence in any degree our decisions upon the extent of the authority of the General Government. Let us abide by the Constitution as it is written, or amend it in the constitutional mode if it is found to be defective.

The severe lessons of experience will, I doubt not, be sufficient to prevent Congress from again chartering such a monopoly, even if the Constitution did not present an insuperable objection to it. But you must remember, my fellow-citizens, that eternal vigilance by the people is the price of liberty, and that you must pay the price if you wish to secure the blessing. It behooves you, therefore, to be watchful in your States as well as in the Federal Government. ...You have already had abundant evidence of its power to inflict injury upon the agricultural, mechanical, and laboring classes of society, and over those whose engagements in trade or speculation render them dependent on bank facilities the dominion of the State monopoly will be absolute and their obedience unlimited. With such a bank and a paper currency the money power would in a few years govern the State and control its measures..., and ...the time will soon come when it will again take the field against the United States and succeed in perfecting and perpetuating its organization by a charter from Congress.

The form of your Government might for a time have remained, but its living spirit would have departed from it."
-- President Andrew Jackson’s farewell speech upon leaving office on March 4, 1837

forgive the amalgamation of Jackson quotes. i think you get the idea. religious devotion? hardly. realistic and analytical imo. are we serious about putting an end to imperialism, black budgets and unlimited warfare? hope and appeals to consciense ain't going to do it. unplug the wizard's smoke, fire and hologram machine. pull back his curtain...
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Re: An Investment Manager's View on the Top 1%

Postby Jeff » Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:12 am

Elihu, when quoting a member, it increases legibility if you use the available "quote" function you can find in the top right corner of his or her post. Just FYI.
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Re: An Investment Manager's View on the Top 1%

Postby Elihu » Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:34 am

Jeff wrote:Elihu, when quoting a member, it increases legibility if you use the available "quote" function you can find in the top right corner of his or her post. Just FYI.


i was hoping to start a trend. i will make use of it. i'm curious, how did you know i happened to be browsing at that time?
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Re: An Investment Manager's View on the Top 1%

Postby Jeff » Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:07 am

Elihu wrote:
Jeff wrote:Elihu, when quoting a member, it increases legibility if you use the available "quote" function you can find in the top right corner of his or her post. Just FYI.


i was hoping to start a trend. i will make use of it. i'm curious, how did you know i happened to be browsing at that time?


I didn't; it was just something I wanted to pass along.
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Re: An Investment Manager's View on the Top 1%

Postby Elihu » Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:40 am

Jeff wrote:I didn't; it was just something I wanted to pass along.


so you're only an apprentice wizard then? ;) i kidd. you'd think i could appreciate something like synchronicity by now. it seems we are not all gifted equally in the "spidy sense" area...
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