Case closed: “Climategate” was manufactured

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Re: Case closed: “Climategate” was manufactured

Postby Simulist » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:22 pm

Thanks for your reply, Ben.
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Re: Case closed: “Climategate” was manufactured

Postby tazmic » Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:49 am

Simulist wrote:But, other than this being an invasion of privacy, so what?

They should have published it through Wikileaks.

A statement by the University of East Anglia last night, said: “While we have had only a limited opportunity to look at this latest post of 5,000 emails, we have no evidence of a recent breach of our systems.

“If genuine, (the sheer volume of material makes it impossible to confirm at present that they are all genuine) these emails have the appearance of having been held back after the theft of data and emails in 2009 to be released at a time designed to cause maximum disruption to the imminent international climate talks.

“This appears to be a carefully-timed attempt to reignite controversy over the science behind climate change when that science has been vindicated by three separate independent inquiries and number of studies – including, most recently, the [Koch funded] Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature group.

“As in 2009, extracts from emails have been taken completely out of context. Following the previous release of emails scientists highlighted by the controversy have been vindicated by independent review, and claims that their science cannot or should not be trusted are entirely unsupported. They, the University and the wider research community have stood by the science throughout, and continue to do so.”

What's the current consensus on kilimanjaro?

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Re: Case closed: “Climategate” was manufactured

Postby tazmic » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:32 am

Some alleged emails:
Jones:

I’ve been told that IPCC is above national FOI Acts. One way to cover yourself and all those working in AR5 would be to delete all emails at the end of the process

<1577> Jones:

[FOI, temperature data]
Any work we have done in the past is done on the back of the research grants we get – and has to be well hidden. I’ve discussed this with the main funder (US Dept of Energy) in the past and they are happy about not releasing the original station data.

Wils:

What if climate change appears to be just mainly a multidecadal natural fluctuation? They’ll kill us probably [...]

<1485> Mann:

the important thing is to make sure they’re loosing the PR battle. That’s what the site [Real Climate] is about.

Barnett:

[IPCC AR5 models] clearly, some tuning or very good luck involved. I doubt the modeling world will be able to get away with this much longer

Bradley:

I’m sure you agree–the Mann/Jones GRL paper was truly pathetic and should never have been published. I don’t want to be associated with that 2000 year “reconstruction”.

Cook:

I am afraid that Mike is defending something that increasingly cannot be defended. He is investing too much personal stuff in this and not letting the science move ahead.

<5096> Cook:

A growing body of evidence clearly shows [2008] that hydroclimatic variability during the putative MWP (more appropriately and inclusively called the “Medieval Climate Anomaly” or MCA period) was more regionally extreme (mainly in terms of the frequency and duration of megadroughts) than anything we have seen in the 20th century, except perhaps for the Sahel. So in certain ways the MCA period may have been more climatically extreme than in modern times.

<1939> Thorne/MetO:

Observations do not show rising temperatures throughout the tropical troposphere unless you accept one single study and approach and discount a wealth of others. This is just downright dangerous. We need to communicate the uncertainty and be honest. Phil, hopefully we can find time to discuss these further if necessary [...]

<1611> Carter:

It seems that a few people have a very strong say, and no matter how much talking goes on beforehand, the big decisions are made at the eleventh hour by a select core group.

<3066> Thorne:

I also think the science is being manipulated to put a political spin on it which for all our sakes might not be too clever in the long run.

<2884> Wigley:

Mike, The Figure you sent is very deceptive [...] there have been a number of dishonest presentations of model results by individual authors and by IPCC [...]

Humphrey/DEFRA:

I can’t overstate the HUGE amount of political interest in the project as a message that the Government can give on climate change to help them tell their story. They want the story to be a very strong one and don’t want to be made to look foolish.

<0953> Jones:

This will reduce the 1940-1970 cooling in NH temps. Explaining the cooling with sulphates won’t be quite as necessary.

Wilson:

I thought I’d play around with some randomly generated time-series and see if I could ‘reconstruct’ northern hemisphere temperatures. [...] The reconstructions clearly show a ‘hockey-stick’ trend. I guess this is precisely the phenomenon that Macintyre has been going on about.

Kjellen:

I agree with Nick that climate change might be a better labelling than global warming

<2267> Wilson:

Although I agree that GHGs are important in the 19th/20th century (especially since the 1970s), if the weighting of solar forcing was stronger in the models, surely this would diminish the significance of GHGs. [...] it seems to me that by weighting the solar irradiance more strongly in the models, then much of the 19th to mid 20th century warming can be explained from the sun alone.

<2292> Jones:

[tropical glaciers] There is a small problem though with their retreat. They have retreated a lot in the last 20 years yet the MSU2LT data would suggest that temperatures haven’t increased at these levels.

<5315> Jenkins/MetO:

would you agree that there is no convincing evidence for kilimanjaro glacier melt being due to recent warming (let alone man-made warming)?

<1788> Jones:

There shouldn’t be someone else at UEA with different views [from "recent extreme weather is due to global warming"] – at least not a climatologist.

<0810> Mann:

I gave up on Judith Curry a while ago. I don’t know what she think’s she’s doing, but its not helping the cause

<2733> Crowley:

Phil, thanks for your thoughts – guarantee there will be no dirty laundry in the open.
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Re: Case closed: “Climategate” was manufactured

Postby Ben D » Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:26 pm

Climategate scientists DID collude with government officials to hide research that didn't fit their apocalyptic global warming

5,000 leaked emails reveal scientists deleted evidence that cast doubt on claims climate change was man-made
Experts were under orders from US and UK officials to come up with a 'strong message'
Critics claim: 'The stink of intellectual corruption is overpowering'
Scientist asks, 'What if they find that climate change is a natural fluctuation? They'll kill us all'

By ROB WAUGH
Last updated at 11:13 PM on 25th November 2011

More than 5,000 documents have been leaked online purporting to be the correspondence of climate scientists at the University of East Anglia who were previously accused of ‘massaging’ evidence of man-made climate change.

Following on from the original 'climategate' emails of 2009, the new package appears to show systematic suppression of evidence, and even publication of reports that scientists knew to to be based on flawed approaches.

And not only do the emails paint a picture of scientists manipulating data, government employees at the Department for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) are also implicated.

One message appeared to show a member of Defra staff telling colleagues working on climate science to give the government a ‘strong message’.

The emails paint a clear picture of scientists selectively using data, and colluding with politicians to misuse scientific information.
‘Humphrey’, said to work at Defra, writes: ‘I cannot overstate the HUGE amount of political interest in the project as a message that the government can give on climate change to help them tell their story.

'They want their story to be a very strong one and don’t want to be made to look foolish.’

Professor Phil Jones, director of the Climatic Research Unit at the centre of the affair, said the group findings did stand up to scrutiny.
Yet one of the newly released emails, written by Prof. Jones - who is working with the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) - said: 'Any work we have done in the past is done on the back of the research grants we get – and has to be well hidden. 'I’ve discussed this with the main funder (U.S. Dept of Energy) in the past and they are happy about not releasing the original station data.'

The University of East Anglia, where most of the emails originated - none of the newly released emails appear to be post 2009, but clarify the extent of government involvement in the scandalIn another of his emails, he wrote: 'I’ve been told that Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is above national Freedom of Information Acts. 'One way to cover yourself and all those working in AR5 would be to delete all emails at the end of the process.'

More...

Climate change fears 'have been exaggerated' say scientists who claim apocalyptic predictions are unlikely
Other scientists are clearly against such a policy, but some seemed happy to collude with concealing and destroying evidence.
One nervous scientist wrote: 'The figure you sent is very deceptive.' 'I also think the science is being manipulated to put a political spin on it which for all our sakes might not be too clever in the long run,' wrote another. The lead author of one of the reports, Jonathan Overpeck, wrote, 'The trick may be to decide on the main message and use that to guide what’s included and what is left out.'

A weak performance by Environment Secretary Chris Huhne on Question Time has helped to inflame the row over the second leak of private UEA emails - now described as Climategate 2.0.

Professor Phil Jones, Director of the Climatic Research Unit, appears before the Science and Technology Committee after the last dump of leaked climate-change emails/ Former Chancellor Nigel Lawson's Global Warming Policy Foundation warned against ignoring 'shortcomings' in a letter strongly critical of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
It said: 'The BBC, in determining its policy towards the coverage of global warming, which is of course not simply a scientific issue but an economic and a political issue, too, ought to shred that section of the Jones review and revert to the impartiality laid down in its charter.' He was also strongly critical of sections of the media who lent support to the scientists.
Andrew Orlwowski, UK science site The Register's science correspondent comments on one email that says, 'What if climate change turns out to be a natural fluctuation? They'll kill us all'

Clive Crook, a commentator for the Atlantic, who described the earlier inquiries into the Climategate emails as 'ineffectual' and 'mealy mouthed', reportedly said, 'The closed-mindedness of these supposed men of science, their willingness to go to any lengths to defend a preconceived message, is surprising even to me. 'The stink of intellectual corruption is overpowering.'
There is other correspondence from scientists such as Prof Michael Mann, director of the Earth System Science Centre at Penn State University, some of which have a distinct feel of PR 'spin'.The release of the information echoes the 'Climategate' leaks of hacked private emails two years ago ahead of crunch climate talks in Copenhagen that referred to ways to ‘hide the decline’ in global warming.

A series of independent reviews cleared the East Anglia researchers of impropriety, but they were told they had been too secretive.
Today's leak may also be timed to disrupt the next session of the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change next week in South Africa. 'Today's decisions should be based on all the information we can get, not on hiding the decline,' said the file.
The identity of the people who posted it was not revealed - although the clear political statement is new. The file also contains more than 200,000 other emails, which are encrypted, and no password is provided. Presumably, this is to protect the individuals involved - or simply because the material is so non-controversial or boring that it's not worth releasing.

Professor Mann, speaking to the Guardian, described the release as 'truly pathetic.' 'Well, they look like mine but I hardly see anything that appears damning at all, despite them having been taken out of context. 'I guess they had very little left to work with, having culled in the first round the emails that could most easily be taken out of context to try to make me look bad.'
A police investigation is ongoing.
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Postby wintler2 » Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:05 pm

What a coincidence that this 2nd rinse of the 2009 UEA emails is leaked and promo'd on billionaire media right before the next round of international climate negotiations. Just like the first lot. British Police are still investigating .. but have got nowhere .. just like the phone hacks. Its always telling whose side the cops look after.
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Re: Case closed: “Climategate” was manufactured

Postby compared2what? » Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:55 am

Seriously.

It's a good thing the Koch brothers have money to waste, because that's what they're doing with it at this point. Character is destiny, I'm telling you. It's always true in the end.
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Re: Case closed: “Climategate” was manufactured

Postby wintler2 » Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:27 am

compared2what? wrote:Seriously.

It's a good thing the Koch brothers have money to waste, because that's what they're doing with it at this point. Character is destiny, I'm telling you. It's always true in the end.


Wassat? You think Koch/Exxon/AEI/IPA et al are wasting their dough lobbying against GHG pollution controls - because we're not really going to do anything significant anyway? Lotka's 4th law perhaps.
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Re: Case closed: “Climategate” was manufactured

Postby abel danger » Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:09 am

From the historical archives of the forensic economics of the Abel Danger Global Virtual Network re 'global warming'; disasters to destroy denialists; Bullingdon Club alumni; destruction of pre-insured assets

    Did Star Chamber Bullingdons hire global warming saboteurs?

    Erstwhile Star Chamber boss, Juliet Wheldon, appears to have used Bullingdon Club alumni, including Jack Profumo (the Profumo Affair) at Toynbee Hall (1964-2006), to hire saboteurs to destroy pre-insured assets of global-warming denialists (cf. BP’s Deepwater Horizon).

    Be advised that the Canadian High Commissioner to the United Kingdom, Gordon Campbell, is a former Chairman of the Vancouver Police Board (Pickton Pig Farm cover-up) and a former Premier of British Columbia who – in re the global warming scam – has three strikes against him.

    1. Gordon Campbell’s B.C. is the only senior government in North America to have a carbon tax

    2. Gordon Campbell forced allegedly-terrified trustees of the B.C. pension funds (bcIMC) to invest in a mortgage to develop a pig-farm (Piggy Palace Good Times Society) cannibal oath center where 50+ prostitutes’ carbon footprints were eliminated with the help of a wood chipper and semi-feral pigs.

    3. Gordon Campbell transferred custody of the $80 billion B.C. pension fund (bcIMC) to the $71 trillion Carbon Disclosure Project in the Treasury Solicitor’s bona vacantia (legal concept that means owner less property) account (cf. Juliet Wheldon is now Senior Counsel for a terrified Governor of the Bank of England).

    Isn't the simplest explanation that Chris Huhne (Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change) is not stupid; he is just plain terrified?

"Scientists Behaving Badly - More nails for the coffin of man-made global warming NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE ^ | November 28, 2011 | Jim Lacey ... Scientists Behaving Badly More nails for the coffin of man-made global warming ... My favorite quote of all those uncovered was from the climate criminal who asked his colleagues what would happen to them if it was discovered that climate change was “mainly a multidecadal natural fluctuation,” as much of the evidence shows. He answers his own question: “They’ll kill us probably.” — Jim Lacey is professor of strategic studies at the Marine Corps War College. He is the author of the recently released The First Clash and Keep from All Thoughtful Men"


Nemesis approaches.

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Re: Case closed: “Climategate” was manufactured

Postby abel danger » Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:26 am

From the historical archives of the forensic economics of the Abel Danger Global Virtual Network re 'global warming'; Macdonald Dettwiler & Associates; PKI systems; bcIMC; 2010 Vancouver Winter Olympics

Campbell Settlement attacks from Tehran 1979 to Olympic threat now

This Campbell guy is mentioned below in re the three strikes against him for CAGW fraud i.e. the imposition of a BC carbon tax, the elimination of 60+ hookers’ carbon footprints and the transfer of the $80 billion bcIMC pension fund into the $71 trillion Carbon Disclosure Project and the ultra vires custody of the Treasury Solicitor’s office.

"Gordon Muir Campbell Canadian High Commissioner to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland .. After graduating from university that year, Campbell and Nancy Chipperfield were married in New Westminster on July 4, 1970. Under the Canadian University Service Overseas program, they went to Nigeria to teach. There he coached basketball and track and field and launched literacy initiatives. Campbell was accepted to Stanford to pursue a master’s degree in education, but the couple instead returned to Vancouver where Campbell entered law school at UBC and Nancy completed her education degree. Campbell's law education was short-lived; he soon returned to the City of Vancouver to work for Art Phillips on his mayoral campaign. When Phillips was elected in 1972, Campbell became his executive assistant, a job he held until 1976. When he left Mayor Phillips's office, at 28 years old, Campbell went to work for Marathon Realty as a project manager. In 1976 Geoffrey, the Campbells' first child, was born. In 1978, the Campbells bought a house in Point Grey, which was their home for the next 26 years. From 1975 to 1978 he pursued his MBA at Simon Fraser University. In 1979, Nancy Campbell gave birth to their second child, Nicholas. .. British Columbia won the right to host the 2010 Winter Olympics on July 2, 2003. This was a joint Winter Olympics bid by Vancouver and the ski resort of Whistler. Campbell attended the final presentations in Prague, the Czech Republic. He also went to the 2006 Winter Olympics in Turin, Italy, attending the Games' competitions, as well as the closing ceremonies. On August 8, 2008, he attended the Opening Ceremonies for the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing. He went to Beijing to promote the province of British Columbia at the 2008 Summer Olympics. On February 12, 2010, Campbell was in attendance at the opening ceremony for the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver and attended events during the games, including games in the ice hockey tournament. He made a lot of television appearances during the Olympics, talking about Vancouver and the province of British Columbia hosting the games. He was also present at the closing ceremony.”


Our research show that Campbell had procured a mobile radio system from Macdonald Dettwiler and Associates to support Vancouver-based man-in-the-middle contract hits by leaders of the International Settlement Movement, including Jack 'Bullingdon' Profumo, Harold MacMillan’s late and former Secretary for [Economic] War at Toynbee Hall.

We allege that Campbell and his Settlement friends procured Macdonald Dettwiler and Associates’ EW/ELINT and guidance and control systems used by Iranian special forces to knock out the helicopters sent by President Carter to relieve the U.S. Embassy in 1979.

You will find Macdonald Dettwiler and Associates has built the public key infrastructure needed by Settlement leaders in your Coalition Government’s Treasury Solicitor office to co-ordinate physical, electronic and financial attacks on sovereign states such as Iran, Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, Greece and the United Kingdom itself.

Campbell – then mayor of Vancouver – arranged for Russell Williams, a homicidal pedophile EW/ELINT (Electronic Intelligence) pilot, to take charge of Macdonald Dettwiler and Associates’ war rooms needed for airborne security of Vancouver’s 2010 Winter Olympic Games!

In August 2009 we personally warned Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper of an airborne threat to the Vancouver Olympic Games due to start early February 2010.

Russell Williams was arrested four days before the start of the games and we believe we [Abel Danger] helped thwart an attack by Campbell and his International Settlement colleagues on the U.S.- Canadian men/women’s ice-hockey finals or the closing ceremony itself.

Boris ‘Bullingdon’ Johnston has an equivalent position in re a possible Settlement man-in-the-middle propaganda attack on London’s 2012 Olympics as Campbell had in re the attack which we helped to thwart on Vancouver’s 2010 Winter Olympics.

We suggest Boris checks out Macdonald Dettwiler and Associates’ PKI systems, procured by Campbell, to ensure his missile batteries do not trigger a false flag attack.

Dismiss us as flakes if you will, but first check out what Campbell and Profumo did to raise money for ‘Settlement 9/11’; that is, of course, when Campbell wasn’t placing the B.C. pension fund (‘bcIMC’) in the-now $71 trillion Carbon Disclosure Project and Profumo wasn’t pimping children to donors in a Toynbee Hall toilet bowl tradition which goes back to Jane the Ripper Addams’s visit to Ashbee pere et gay fils in June 1888.

Mary Elizabeth Harriman - Russell Williams - 2010 Vancouver Olympic Games - Pedophile Snuff Films - Mothers of SOS Children’s Villages

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Re: Case closed: “Climategate” was manufactured

Postby Ben D » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:27 pm

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Re: Case closed: “Climategate” was manufactured

Postby wintler2 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:56 pm


Monkton has been threatening that for years, ho hum.

More novel on the pro-polluter front, from two other older white male creeps:
Howard launches 'anti-warmist manual' for kids
Former [australian] prime minister John Howard has lent his support to a book aimed at school children which argues the theory of human-induced global warming is a scam.

Last night, the former prime minister launched the publication, the latest from controversial geologist Professor Ian Plimer. The book, called How to Get Expelled From School, rejects the predominant scientific opinion on climate change. The book is billed as "an anti-global warmist manual for the younger reader".

Professor Plimer launched the book, a follow up to his book Heaven and Earth, at the Sydney Mining Club.

Image[pic from news.com]


See here for reviews of text from some unfossilised geologists.
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Re: Case closed: “Climategate” was manufactured

Postby Ben D » Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:11 pm

There is That which was not born, nor created, nor evolved. If it were not so, there would never be any refuge from being born, or created, or evolving. That is the end of suffering. That is God**.

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Re: Case closed: “Climategate” was manufactured

Postby eyeno » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:13 pm




A person could also contrast the term "greenhouse gas" against the terms "The Language of The Birds" and "Green Language" and arrive at a conclusion. If said person has knowledge of the occult dark arts it will make sense. If said person has no knowledge of the occult dark arts it won't make any sense at all.
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