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slomo wrote: The last thing I want is to become the Scapegoat in the next mimetic crisis.
Stephen Berman: Scapegoat
Kenneth Westhues,
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Christian civilization, says Girard, thus includes an “obligatory compassion” that is honoured mainly in the breach, given how deep-seated in human nature is the impulse to scapegoat, what Girard calls the “persecutory unconscious.” [9: 126f] We raise conflicts to “a new level of cunning” with “procedures less comically evident,” pursue a “hunt for hunters of scapegoats,” and in this way authorize “new forms of cruelty.” Scapegoating survives “by becoming more subtle, by resorting to more and more complex casuistry in order to elude the self-criticism that follows scapegoaters like their shadow.” [9: 159]
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Published in the collection on academic mobbing in December 2006 http://arts.uwaterloo.ca/~kwesthue/berman.htm
slomo wrote:Ultimately people believe what they want to believe. I'm starting to think that this whole conversation, and all of the conversations at RI, are just exercises in futility.
A good example is the Disney thread - one that I refuse to further participate in. On the surface it would seem to ask the public to confront the reality that many of our cultural luminaries harbored dark secrets and did terrible things, but in reality it's just a way to reinforce already deeply held opinions that all gay men are pedophiles. That will be the ultimate outcome of the Penn State scandal - not that our leaders are depraved (that would be "Conspiracy Theory") but that we should not trust homosexuals.
I'm starting to think my time is better spent actually dealing with my career, making money, and insulating myself from the vast stupidity that is evident even in this forum.
The last thing I want is to become the Scapegoat in the next mimetic crisis.
slomo wrote:Ultimately people believe what they want to believe. I'm starting to think that this whole conversation, and all of the conversations at RI, are just exercises in futility.
The last thing I want is to become the Scapegoat in the next mimetic crisis.
JackRiddler wrote:I feel the same way often, and sooner or later I will drop it (for me this is addiction) and take to my corner and finally write without taking constant Web input and engaging in dialogue here.
Sounder wrote:slomo I'm sorry to hear that.
It just occurred to me to tell a little self serving story that may none the less cheer you up and mitigate your current feeling of futility.
I was on a remodel job site with a half dozen semi-rough carpenters. Included in the bunch was a new guy that indicated within about ten minutes of the start of his descriptive banter, that he had an IQ of 174. One workmate looked toward me and laughed quite loudly causing the new guy to look puzzled. So I informed him that he had just said something quite stupid for a person with his IQ and that furthermore I now felt an obligation to show him just how stupid he really was. This had the salutary effect of making him a bit nervous and more quiet than his more normal way of being.
While we all went to lunch together, crowded into one vehicle, this fellow made a disparaging comment about gay people. To which my response was, excellent this will do, so xxxx do you think either society or the individuals concerned would be better off with gay folk finding the deepest connections they are able to find, or is society better off if these folk accept social strictures and deny themselves a deep connection with another person?
After this there was marked decrease in the bluster element from this fellow.
Simulist wrote:Hey, Slomo. One of the most devastating realizations I've ever had (and, given the fact that my journey has taken me from a conservative Christian, Republican upbringing to "here," wherever that really is, there have been a few...) is that most people -- conservative and liberal, religious and atheist -- really aren't too interested in the truth if it disturbs their comfort zone; what most people are after is a comfortable illusion that works for them.
We're all at different places though, and we never know who might just surprise us.
slomo wrote:...
If the sheep are so easily manipulated, then fuck 'em. It's not my problem...
slomo wrote:Thank you for the outpouring of support, all, but this really isn't a manipulative ploy to get ego strokes (or whatever it is that gets stroked in a virtual community space)...
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