On the subject of contemplating one's mortality

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Re: On the subject of contemplating one's mortality

Postby LilyPatToo » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:12 pm

Avalon, I'm so glad you're recovering from your accident and ordeal so well! Your experience is helping me to put my own situation into perspective.

This weekend, I'll hit 65 (which parts of my mind simply cannot imagine) and I've spent the past year struggling with a nasty "what's the use? how much time do I have left, anyway?" depression. By stopping and *breathing* each time I slip into this well-worn toxic rut, I'm able to make progress on some big unfinished projects that are important to me, but it's a real battle some days.

I'm MPD/DID and when I had a front alter switch back in 1994, I lost my belief in life after death (along with most of my creative abilities). It was like losing a limb...or perhaps losing my eyesight is a better analogy. Most of the people I've loved deeply are dead and I didn't realize how much the thought of seeing them again was keeping me afloat on a sea of lifelong depression. This past year, weary and sick-to-death of struggling with this, I unearthed the collection of books on Near Death Experiences that I'd bought prior to 1994. My husband and all of my friends are atheists and I've had to suffer through a lot of eye-rolling when anyone spotted one of the books in my backpack, but I persisted in reading them and trying to find my way back to some kind of open-mindedness on the subject of survival of consciousness.

As I read the many hundreds of NDE cases again, I'm struck by the persistence of widespread disbelief in continuation of life after death in the face of so much data. There is a huge body of information that's being completely ignored and dismissed out of hand by most of the people I know...who otherwise are very well-educated, intelligent folks. I find myselves wondering what effect this is having on the world, if it's had this profoundly negative effect on me, personally?

Also, I've come across old journal entries detailing what seemed like actual contact with departed loved ones and even, in my teens, an encounter with a ghost (though he was of the "recording on the place" type, not the interacting type) that was shared by my freaked-out Border Collie. The realization that I'd been repressing these memories so efficiently since '94 really made an impression on me and I'm still trying to come to terms with it. I'm glad this thread has been started and glad I'm not alone in my attempts to come to terms with my own mortality. When an old friend and then my husband's buddy had strokes recently--and both are younger than I am--it shook me to my core. I looked at all the undone projects in my life and made myselves start in on them again, though part of the emotion behind that was anger and part was shame.

I've been spring cleaning all week and I find that each thing I pick up is evaluated by whether at my age I'll ever use it again. That's sorta weird, given that on both sides of the family people lived into their mid-80's and 90's. Part of that grimness is based on physical damage that was done to me in nonconsentual experimentation that lasted from early childhood through my 20's, but part of it feels irrational to me--as though I'm fighting to keep my head above water emotionally and flailing about more than is strictly necessary :oops: I want to reach some kind of rational and spiritual balance again, but the process is long and the pain is sometimes overwhelming. It sucks to be remaking my life at an age where I thought I'd find peace of mind, to be honest.

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Re: On the subject of contemplating one's mortality

Postby brainpanhandler » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:49 pm

From a thread I started awhile ago:


brainpanhandler wrote:Lapham is 73 now and though his voice seems to have mellowed a bit, it's done so in a good way. He's an interesting man, with interesting connections. It'd be easy to tie him to the cia, big oil, international banking, all the usual suspects. Even if all that were true and Harper's is just another tool of the mockingbird media and Lapham is just another clever mouthpiece for the ptb, nonetheless, the specter of death is a great equalizer and Lapham has hit a coffin nail right on the head with his musings on death and his Notebook review of Simon Critchley's The Book of Dead Philosophers from the May issue of Harper's. I'll have to pick it up.

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By Lewis H. Lapham

Lewis H. Lapham is the National Correspondent for Harper’s Magazine and the editor of Lapham’s Quarterly.


Never to have lived is best, ancient writers say;

Never to have drawn the breath of life,

never to have looked into the eye of day;

The second best’s a gay good night and quickly turn away.


—W. B. Yeats

As a college student long ago in the 1950s I nurtured the thought of one day becoming a writer, and on the advice of an instructor in sophomore English Lit., I attempted to form the habit of keeping a journal. I didn’t know what it was that I hoped to write—poetry in imitation of Ezra Pound, novels along the lines of Balzac or F. Scott Fitzgerald, maybe stories like those of J. D. Salinger—and so I was glad to be told that it didn’t matter what went down on the page. Anything at all, the man said. Describe something you saw yesterday in the street, copy out five paragraphs by Jane Austen, reconstruct a conversation overheard in a men’s room or on a train, make a list of exotic birds, count the number of windows in Woolsey Hall, compose a letter to Rita Hayworth; learn to put one word after another, like your feet in your shoes, and maybe you’ll find out that you have something to say.

That the odds didn’t favor the speculation I could infer from the tone of the instructor’s voice, but off and on over the past fifty years I’ve kept up the practice of salvaging stray thoughts and random observations from the remains of a week or a day. Sometimes I’ve let three or four years lapse between entries; at other times, fortified by a surplus of dutiful resolve, I’ve made daily notations for periods as long as nine or twelve months. The focus has shifted with the books that I happen to be reading, with the trend of the headlines, and with the changes in venue accompanying the transfer from a single to a married state, but I notice that I retain an interest in the last words spoken by people bidding farewell to their lives and times from the height of a scaffold or the deck of a sinking ship, outward bound on the voyage to who knows where. The dying of the light was a topic to which I was introduced in grammar school by a Latin teacher fond of quoting Montaigne as well as Cicero and Sophocles, and somewhere in sight of an eighth-grade blackboard I was given to understand that to learn how to die was to unlearn how to be a slave, that no man was to be counted happy until he was dead. The words made a greater impression than probably was intended or expected because I was raised in a family unincorporated into the body of Christ, and at the age of thirteen, it never once having occurred to me to consider the prospect of an afterlife, I knew that I lacked the documents required to clear customs in Heaven. Eternal life might have been granted to the Christian martyrs delivered to the lions in the Roman Colosseum, presumably also to Sir Thomas More, saying to the man with the axe while mounting the stair to his execution, “See me safe up, and for my coming down let me shift for myself.” But without an insurance policy guaranteed by a church, how did one make a last stand worthy of Brian Donlevy confronted with thousands of Japs swarming ashore on Wake Island, or hit upon an exit line up to the standard of Oscar Wilde’s “Either that wallpaper goes, or I do”?

The question came up during the year in college when I contracted a rare and particularly virulent form of meningitis. The doctors in the emergency room rated my chance of survival at nil or next to none, one of them telephoning my father in New York to say that his son would be gone within the hour and he could save himself the trouble of trying to get to New Haven before morning. It was a teaching hospital, and to the surprise of all present I responded to the infusion of several new drugs never before tested in combination, and for two days, drifting in and out of consciousness in a ward reserved for patients without hope of recovery, I had ample chance to think a great thought or turn a noble phrase. Nothing came to mind; there were no windows to count, no exotic bird at the foot of the bed. Nor do I remember being horrified. Astonished, not horrified. Here was death making routine hospital rounds—the man in the next bed died in the first night, the woman to his left on the second—and it was as if I was in a foreign country waiting to be approached by the skeletal figure with the scythe whom I’d seen in the fourteenth-century woodcuts illustrating the lectures in the history of medieval art. Apparently an old story, but one that, before being admitted to the hospital as a corpse in all but name, I hadn’t guessed was also my own, my own and that of every other living thing on earth at that moment on the road to the same tourist destination—once-in-a-lifetime, not-to-be-missed—that didn’t sell postcards and from whose sidewalk cafés no traveler returned.


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Three months later I left the hospital knowing that my reprieve was temporary, subject to cancellation on short notice, and in the years since, I’ve tried to live every day in the present tense, piecing together the consolations of philosophy from writers choosing to look death in the face and to draw from the encounter the breath of life. The reluctance to do so I take to be a root cause of most of our twenty-first-century American sorrows (socioeconomic and aesthetic as well as cultural and political), and as a remedy for our chronic states of fear and trembling I know of none better than Simon Critchley’s The Book of Dead Philosophers, published last February by Vintage. The global economy at the time was sliding into the wine-dark sea of unfathomable debt, and here was Critchley on the boat deck of the Titanic cheerfully reminding the top-hatted Wall Street gentlemen that Diderot had choked to death on an apricot, that Heraclitus had suffocated in cow dung, and that Montesquieu died in the arms of his lover, leaving unfinished an essay on taste. A professor of philosophy at the New School for Social Research in New York, Critchley declares his purpose on the first page of the introduction. Absent a philosophical coming to terms with death, we are, he says,

Led, on the one hand, to deny the fact of death and to run headlong into the watery pleasures of forgetfulness, intoxication and the mindless accumulation of money and possessions. On the other hand, the terror of annihilation leads us blindly into a belief in the magical forms of salvation and promises of immortality offered by certain varieties of traditional religion and many New Age (and some rather old age) sophistries.

The observation speaks not only to the heavy cost of our health-care systems and our childish war on terror but also to the current losses in the credit markets and to the incessant hawking of fairy tales that is the bone and marrow of most of our prime-time news and entertainment. Had Critchley been of a mind to do so, I don’t doubt that he could have assembled a five-volume treatise on any and all of the unhappy consequences, complete with many pages of statistical proof backed up with oracular mutterings from authorities both secular and divine. He chooses to do something more lighthearted and therefore more useful—to take note of the deaths of “190 or so” philosophers with the thought that by attending to the manner of their shufflings off the mortal coil his reader might profit by their example. He borrows the device from Montaigne’s essay on the uses of philosophy: “If I were a maker of books, I would make a register, with comments, of various deaths. He who would teach men to die would teach them to live.”

The dramatis personae in Critchley’s register of last scenes, some of them described in two or three paragraphs, others at the length of two or three pages, rounds up the usual suspects, among them a few women (Hipparchia, Madame du Châtelet, Hannah Arendt), several Christian saints (St. Paul, St. Anthony, Boethius), and a small number of Arabs and Chinese (Avicenna, Averroës, Confucius, Lao Tzu), but largely the company of dead white males (ancient Greek and modern German) embodying the tradition of Western philosophy as it has come down to us over the past 2,500 years from Thales of Miletus to Derrida and Rawls.

Some of the anecdotes were familiar, noted in my own lists of final departures—Socrates at the conclusion of the trial that condemned him to death, saying to his judges, “Now it is time that we were going, I to die and you to live; but which of us has the happier prospect is unknown to anyone but God”; Seneca commanded by the Emperor Nero to commit suicide, engaging his friends in easy conversation while the blood drained from his wrists and arms; Voltaire, irritated by a parish priest asking him if he believed in the divinity of Christ, saying, “In the name of God, Monsieur, don’t speak to me any more of that man and let me die in peace.” Most of the stories were ones I hadn’t known—David Hume shortly before he died in 1776 graciously entertaining James Boswell’s assurance of a soon-to-be-revealed afterlife on the ground that “it was possible that a piece of coal on the fire would not burn”; Jean Baudrillard, writing his last book, Cool Memories V, after having been diagnosed with the cancer that killed him, “Death orders matters well, since the very fact of your absence makes the world distinctly less worthy of being lived in.”

For Critchley’s purpose it doesn’t matter whether the “190 or so deaths” have been recorded elsewhere or whether some of his sources are probably apocryphal or possibly misinformed. The sum is greater than the parts because the truth to be told, by Cicero baring his neck to Antony’s centurion on the road to Naples as by Heinrich Heine dying of syphilis in nineteenth-century Paris, can be verified at so many points on the map of time. Critchley leafs through the pages of his register and concludes, as did Montaigne, that the consolation of philosophy is “the stillness of the soul’s dialogue with itself. . . . It is the achievement of a calm that accompanies existing in the present without forethought or regret. I know of no other immortality.”

Neither do I. Which isn’t to say that I make myself an odds-on favorite to show even a semblance of the composure to which Critchley’s mortal philosophers bear immortal witness, or that having been granted a fifty-year extension on the deadline for a comfortable thought or a noteworthy phrase on my next consultation with the senior practitioner, an event now apt to take place sooner rather than later, I am anywhere within reach or in sight of the stillness of the soul conducive to poetry. But neither do I worry about missing the deadline. Certain only that the cause of my death is one that I can neither foresee nor forestall, I’m content to let the sleeping dog lie.

If the attitude is maybe nothing other than a new sophistry designed to excuse my refusal to quit smoking, one of Critchley’s proofs of the believing blindly in a magical form of salvation, it is also the refusal to inject myself with the fear of death that sells the financial, pharmaceutical, and political products guaranteed to restore the youthful bloom of immortality. I came of age during a decade when the answer to the question, “Why do I have to die?” was still being looked for in the laboratories of literature, the cutting-edge R&D to be found in the experiments conducted by Shakespeare, Dickens, Auden, and Yeats translating Sophocles. Over the course of the past fifty years the question has been referred to the cosmetic surgeons, the arms manufacturers, and the hedge-fund wizards, but I haven’t found my way to Jesus or lost the habit of reading the ancient writers unfamiliar with the modernized systems of risk-free metaphysics.

I know that dying is un-American, nowhere mentioned in our contractual agreement with providence, but to regard the mere fact of longevity as the supreme good—without asking why or to what end—strikes me as foolish, a misappropriation of time, thought, sentiment, electricity, and frequent-flier miles. Of the $2.4 trillion assigned last year to the care and feeding of our health-care apparatus, a substantial fraction paid the expenses of citizens in the last, often wretched, years of their lives. Who benefits from the inventory of suffering gathered in the Florida storage facilities? Seldom the corpses in waiting that serve as profit centers for the insurance companies; usually not the heirs of the estate placed as a burnt offering on the altar of Mammon in the temples of medical science.

Where then is the blessing to be found in the wish to live forever? Never before in the history of the world have so many people lived as long, as safely, or as freely as those of us now living in the United States. Never before in the history of the world have so many of those same people made themselves sick with the fears of an imaginary future. We magnify the threat in all the ills the flesh is heir to, surround ourselves with surveillance cameras, declare the war on terror against an unknown enemy and an abstract noun, buy from Bernie Madoff the elixirs of life everlasting. And what is it that we accomplish other than the destruction of our happiness as well as any hope of some sort of sustainable balancing of our account with nature, which, unlike the Obama Administration, isn’t in the business of arranging bailouts?

Absent a coming to terms with death, how do we address the questions of environmental degradation and social injustice certain to denominate the misfortunes of the twenty-first century? Our technologists provide us with new and improved weapons and information systems, our politicians with digitally enhanced sophistry and superstition, but it is from Critchley’s council of dead philosophers that we’re more likely to learn how not to murder ourselves with our fear of the dark.

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Lapham wrote:I’ve tried to live every day in the present tense, piecing together the consolations of philosophy from writers choosing to look death in the face and to draw from the encounter the breath of life. The reluctance to do so I take to be a root cause of most of our twenty-first-century American sorrows (socioeconomic and aesthetic as well as cultural and political),


I think that is an interesting thesis.

What is cause and what is effect?

How would the world be different if we all understood in the profoundest way possible that we are mortal and we too shall die someday, maybe tomorrow? I'm not sure but I'm almost certain it would be a better place.
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Re: On the subject of contemplating one's mortality

Postby NeonLX » Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:36 pm

Edited away.
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Re: On the subject of contemplating one's mortality

Postby Peregrine » Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:37 pm

I missed that article you had posted, bph, thanks for bringing it here.
I also thought of this thread in the spirituality forum when I was starting this one.
For some reason, the Derealisation thread you have bumped before seems to fit into this subject for some reason, for me, at least. I often find when I have these surreal moments, thoughts of my mortality come to the forefront. I find that I am really drawn to natural surroundings when I want to reflect or think about these things. Part of the reason I am going away for a few days in early April is solely for this kind of reflection, on my own, in amongst natural suroundings uncluttered by the din of the city. I feel like being within the city sometimes drowns out my thought process in regards to this.

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LilyPat, when I met you in Seattle for the RI art show, I would have never guessed. You look fantabulous for your age. :fem2:
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Re: On the subject of contemplating one's mortality

Postby Elvis » Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:22 am




I should add and recognize that many people think these topics like reincarnation are a complete waste of time when pressing real-world injustices abound. I think that's a good point, while I think there's a balance, and these questions will never go away so we may as well address them. Mainly, if we can learn more about ourselves, individually and as a species, it's bound to help overcome our shortcomings. 'Higher consciousness'--a cliché that shouldn't be, really--might help us discern evil and repel it, might make us feel more connected and so on.

About suffering: Slomo remarked in another, related thread ("ParaTopics: Segregation, Balance, or Wheat From Chaff?" viewtopic.php?f=8&t=28581&p=343820) that "we are living in one of the hell realms," and that stuck me as a distinct possibility. This 'go-'round' (as I see it) might be fraught with 'karmic' debts or something along those lines, and/or, returning to justdrew's concept of community rules, our civilization is a self-imposed kind of hell where maybe the process is not benign, as Twyla suggests.

I'm speculating of course but that scenario works in my 'cosmology' which I like to think is evidence-based. I'm probably Totally Wrong.

I'm in love with the world. But damn, the heartbreak. We're such nuanced creatures, and at the same time so primitive. Yada yada...I hope I've added something.


Since this thread is really about contemplating mortality, I should add that about five years ago I got the idea I would die in ten years. That leaves five years from now. "Knowing" I have five years left is interesting, and a bit liberating. I'm okay with it, I'm very tired anyway, but it really makes me think about how I should be spending my time.
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Re: On the subject of contemplating one's mortality

Postby fruhmenschen » Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:35 am

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Re: On the subject of contemplating one's mortality

Postby Nordic » Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:39 am

When I was a kid, I wasn't the healthiest thing in the world. I remember lying on my sofa, just trying to breathe, and almost unable to walk to the hospital from the parking lot, with my Mom, to have my asthma treated.

Also, I had a deadly food allergy, and there were several close calls. I could easily have died from that on many occasions.

It wasn't until 2000, when i was 38 years old, that I realized I hadn't really expected to live that long. I was driving across the country, alone (except for my dog) in a '84 Toyota pickup truck, and in the middle of nowhere realized that throughout my life, whenever I had looked ahead to that impossible year of 2000, when I would be 38, I really figured that the peanuts would have gotten me by then.

But they hadn't. And I honestly wasn't quite sure what to do with the rest of my life.

It came as a surprise. The peanuts hadn't taken me out after all. Because, you see, I used to think ahead to the year 2000 and think "wow, I'll be 38 if I live"

Since I turned 38, I got married, had a family, had my own son. This has changed everything, mainly in that it has given me a desire to live a very long time. Because I want to stay with my son as long as possible. He wants it, too.

Having just turned 50, and having some odd and inexplicable health problems, and feeling my body betray me, gradually and inexorably, feeling the pull of the downward slope toward the right-hand-side of life's Bell Curve, I am once again contemplating my own mortality. I am almost to the age of my mother when she died of cancer at 53.
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Re: On the subject of contemplating one's mortality

Postby Inkwhyring » Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:45 am

When I was about 20 my boyfriend,19,died in a car accident.I went to the funeral home to see him,before his dad flew the body down to California,to be buried.I touched my hand to his face,as he lay in his casket,and what I felt was so cold,empty,and I knew then that the body is just a shell,that there is something inside,the soul,I guess,that is what gives it life,you just won't need it anymore,so why some people insist on the whole burial thing is beyond me.But,I digress...you've heard "from ashes to ashes,from dust to dust"....Well,I believe that at the very least,that our souls,or whatever you want to call the energy that animates our bodies,when it is done,and leaves the body,it becomes part of everything else,the rivers,the people who fish them,the rocks they skip,the air they breathe,etc.....and in that way,we 'live on',forever.
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Re: On the subject of contemplating one's mortality

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:07 am

Hi everyone.

This is the first time I've been here and read more than half a thread since my bub was born. So I hope you're all doing well.

Peregrine if you ever get the chance and feel like it, read Small Gods by Terry Pratchett. Just for the last paragraph or so. Your dream made me think about that story, especially the last paragraph or so.

And that bit in the faithless song. The bit about not going to nearvana...

I just know that I hope to stick around long enough to see my daughter become a well adjusted individual. I wanna be really old when it's time to go, but sometimes unexpected things happen.


Yeah, same here.

So when she's upset and won't settle I play her this song and sing along:

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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:08 am

Avalon - wow. That is full on. I'm glad you're okay.
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Re: On the subject of contemplating one's mortality

Postby Nordic » Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:38 pm

Joe Hillshoist wrote:Hi everyone.

This is the first time I've been here and read more than half a thread since my bub was born. So I hope you're all doing well.

Peregrine if you ever get the chance and feel like it, read Small Gods by Terry Pratchett. Just for the last paragraph or so. Your dream made me think about that story, especially the last paragraph or so.

And that bit in the faithless song. The bit about not going to nearvana...

I just know that I hope to stick around long enough to see my daughter become a well adjusted individual. I wanna be really old when it's time to go, but sometimes unexpected things happen.


Yeah, same here.

So when she's upset and won't settle I play her this song and sing along:




JOE! Welcome back! And congrats on the baby!
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Re: On the subject of contemplating one's mortality

Postby Searcher08 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:11 pm

Avalon wrote:I just got home a couple of days ago after 2 weeks of unconsciousness, and 4 weeks after that in rehab. Fell on the ice in front of my house, got a subdural hematoma, needed brain surgery. In rehab I learned to walk and gain my strength back again, to gather thoughts and associations, and use logic. Fantastic recovery, they tell me, and I'm not seeing any deficits at this point, other than the walking strength taking longer.

So I've had some time to contemplate my mortality lately. Mostly feeling very loved, and reluctant to leave this plane yet. Nothing too deep or wordy, just very grateful to be alive.


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Re: On the subject of contemplating one's mortality

Postby Simulist » Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:46 pm

Joe Hillshoist wrote:Hi everyone.

Yo, Joe! Good to see you.
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Re: On the subject of contemplating one's mortality

Postby Hammer of Los » Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:11 am

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Hi Joe. Good luck with that kids thing. For the unenlightened, it can be a comfort in the face of one's mortality to know that one will be outlived by one's children.

The ancients used to practice human sacrifice, or so they tell me. I know not why.

Yet I learnt this trick for myself;

The humblest service is the greatest sacrifice.

If you understand the spiritual realities, you will realise the karmic benefit you can accrue.

I still don't much like cleaning poo out of pants though.

And there is always a mountain of washing up to do. I don't use a dishwasher. I am the dishwasher.

Even worse is hand scrubbing school shirts in freezing cold water in the middle of winter until your hands ache.

Thus I warm and then cool my hands. Alternating principles. The mysteries of alchemy were revealed to me by Hermes himself.

Where was I? Oh yes.

You will have to give humble service to your children now, Joe. Do it to the best of your abilities. The children are the future*;





Wake up you sleepy head
Put on some clothes, shake up your bed
Put another log on the fire for me
I've made some breakfast and coffee
I look out my window what do I see
A crack in the sky and a hand reaching down to me

All the nightmares came today
And it looks as though they're here to stay

What are we coming to
No room for me, no fun for you
I think about a world to come
Where the books were found by the Golden ones
Written in pain, written in awe
By a puzzled man who questioned
What we came here for
All the strangers came today
And it looks as though they're here to stay


Oh You Pretty Things (Oh You Pretty Things)
Don't you know you're driving your
Mamas and Papas insane
Oh You Pretty Things (Oh You Pretty Things)
Don't you know you're driving your
Mamas and Papas insane
Let me make it plain
You gotta make way for the Homo Superior

Look at your children
See their faces in golden rays
Don't kid yourself they belong to you
They're the start of a coming race
The earth is a bitch
We've finished our news
Homo Sapiens have outgrown their use
All the strangers came today
And it looks as though they're here to stay


Oh You Pretty Things (Oh You Pretty Things)
Don't you know you're driving your
Mamas and Papas insane
Oh You Pretty Things (Oh You Pretty Things)
Don't you know you're driving your
Mamas and Papas insane
Let me make it plain
You gotta make way for the Homo Superior




:lovehearts: :angelwings: :lovehearts:

ps All this makes me want to go reread Bulwer Lytton.

pps Don't fear the mantid, Joe! I bet it's just a friendly earth spirit crying out to you for help. The spirits of the good earth all cry out for help you know. They cry for help to the very heavens.

ppps Don't fear the alien either. Fear is the mind killer, fear is the little death. All good witches know that, don't they?

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Re: On the subject of contemplating one's mortality

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:35 am

Hi HoL :D

Hammer of Los wrote:...

Hi Joe. Good luck with that kids thing. For the unenlightened, it can be a comfort in the face of one's mortality to know that one will be outlived by one's children.


I sure hope so...


The humblest service is the greatest sacrifice.


Yeah... its kind of easy now tho.




pps Don't fear the mantid, Joe! I bet it's just a friendly earth spirit crying out to you for help. The spirits of the good earth all cry out for help you know. They cry for help to the very heavens.


No it wasn't. I'm very sure of that. Many mantids are cool, but that thing wasn't. It was nasty. And not all anger is about fearing something. Maybe it is. It wasn't friendly and it wasn't asking for help or anything else. It was intent on taking what it wanted regardless.

Hi everyone else too. I missed this place and all you mob.
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