Is Robert Downey Jr anonymously outing a Hollywood sex ring?

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Celebrity Tattletale Is Not Robert Downey Jr., Says Robert Downey Jr.

An internet commenter who's gained notoriety in recent weeks for making appearances in the comments section of a gossip blog — and dropping some very disturbing insider dirt about Hollywood — has more or less outed himself as being Robert Downey Jr. And it he went out in a blaze of glory.

The commenter in question, Himmmm, posted a series of comments in which he claimed he was taking an extended break from this extra-curricular activity, but not before going out with a bang, taking Kirk Douglas, Natalie Wood, Ryan O'Neal, and Natasha Gregson Wagner down with him. His story was so horrific, bizarre, and detailed — right down to Natasha Gregson Wagner's home phone number — that many believed it had to be Robert Downey Jr. Except the real Robert Downey Jr. would like us all to know that it is, in fact, not him. He'd also like us to know that he's a "much better writer" than that guy.

Initially, Himmmm claimed that his commenter account was started by four people working together:

Many years ago this account was started by 4 guys who were all pals and worked together DEEP inside the biz. Two were famous (rock star and movie star) and the other two were true creative geniuses. Over the years, 3 of them posted on this one account on CDAN. Think of it like Menudo (but without gay Latinos). In a way, we were all Himmmm. Kind of like V in V for Vendetta.

But now Himmmm wants people to look at this is a solo effort and, short of saying the actual name, that one person is Robert Downey Jr.

Celebrity Tattletale Is Not Robert Downey Jr., Says Robert Downey Jr.Celebrity Tattletale Is Not Robert Downey Jr., Says Robert Downey Jr.On Thursday evening, Himmmm made a series of postings beneath a blind item about an actor who impregnated an underage girl. Himmmm identified the actor as Ryan O'Neal and the underage girl as Drew Barrymore, then went into a long spiel about how Kirk Douglas had allegedly raped Natalie Wood. He then said that Wood's daughter, Natasha Gregson Wagner, would back up him up on the story and even posted her home phone number. He also claimed to know Wagner because he starred in film with her and Heather Graham in the '90s. If that's the case, the film is Two Girls and a Guy, with the girls being Wagner and Graham and the guy being Robert Downey Jr.

And then, not surprisingly (given the nature of the gossip), Himmmm deleted all of these comments just a short time later. But then he reposted them, this time without mention of Wagner. [Screencaps at left.]

It all sounded fishy to us. For one thing, Himmmm hyped the fact that he was going to drop a "bomb," but the rumor of Kirk Douglas raping Natalie Wood has been going around for years Secondly, while the phone number for Natasha Gregson Wagner did check out, what kind of "friend" would post it on the internet among a bunch of gossip mongers only so they could bother her about her mother's violent rape? Additionally, the number was a publicly listed land line. Real friends have cell numbers.

But the biggest clue in this non-mystery is directly from the horse's mouth. We contacted Robert Downey Jr.'s rep who said, "Not only does [Robert Downey Jr.] not have anything to do with this, he was not even aware that it was going on." Perhaps what's funniest about this whole thing is that RDJ is not bothered by the fact that people would think he was an internet gossip, but that the imposter would go about it so poorly. "Robert's a much better writer than that," his rep said. LINK

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Luther wrote:

I don't believe that Amanda Seyfried, an Allentown girl (and Allen High School grad, an extremely rough spot, no less), would act like that.

Perhaps you'll be kind enough to point out what's being said about "Amanda Seyfried" and provide a link to where it can be found?

I've seen no mention of her here. Please explain your comment.

Thanks.

Also, there this on CD&N: Kidnapped Actress Found WARNING: POSSIBLE TRIGGERS

Providing it for you:

http://whoishimmmm.tumblr.com/post/1939 ... il-08-2011

You'll want to take a shower after reading it. I did.

Whoever this person is, I don't like them at all.

[Iamwhomiam]

Thanks, sorta. Crappy subject overall, imo.

[AlicetheKurious]

You'll want to take a shower after reading it. I did.

That's nothing. You should (or shouldn't) read the blog post about Natalie Woods' rape by Kirk Douglas:

Did Robert Downey Jr. Really Just Accuse Kirk Douglas of a Brutal Rape?

Horrible.

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Some of the replies in this thread are interesting. Apparently, some suspected Talley Griffith [cousin of DW Griffith family] of being Himmmm.

So, while searching around I did find this info and don't know if it's been posted yet, though the TG theory has been swirling around for some time these details were in a random blog comment section.

Oh, fwiw, I think Enty is a woman or has a woman writing at times, just my hunch.

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Aside from the Chris Cornell photo on Griffith's MySpace, there's a second way to trace Himmmm back to Griffith by Googling e-mail addresses and usernames, and they led to something interesting.
1. Himmmm = 3doorBrad@gmail.
2. Himmmm = 3doorBrad@gmail and milspook@yahoo. (Source, where Himmmm's comment is now deleted)
3. milspook@yahoo = Talley Griffith.
4. milspook@yahoo = ISA, and that's where my eyebrows went up. In that blog, it seems like he's basically boasting about his ability to manipulate public opinion by posting online under various names and with various writing styles. (He says "we" at the end, but "I" before Cigtaw's post.) Since you've been analyzing Himmmmm's voices, what do you think of it?

More links in original.

From the last link:

Again...these are not even one-millionth of the beginning of our capabilities. Our deep press ties run from the national news media all the way through regional and local press, down into the underbelly of gossip and blog forums. Combined with our unmatched intelligence, investigation, and scenario-development capabilities...we can be the single strongest component in assisting your client. It's worked for a U.S. President and many other elected officials. It's worked for the U.S. Government and Fortune 100 corporations. Let it work for you.

Don't just monitor public opinion...create it.
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Don't just pray for a favorable verdict...guarantee it.

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This commenter makes a good point:

I'm just wondering why the need to expose this poster got so much attention when this type of unflattering gossip about celebs has been around for a number of years, especially when these stories started spreading like wildfire on the Internet. It was shocking, sick shit to read, but I've heard these stories about pedo rings and prostitution before, but for some reason, there seemed to be a vested interest in getting this particular poster exposed and discredited on other blogs, posters on this site, and others. Other gossip and allegations I've read about this didn't get nearly the amount of scrutiny that his posts on CDAN did.

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Some of the replies in this thread are interesting. Apparently, some suspected Talley Griffith [cousin of DW Griffith family] of being Himmmm.

From Stephen Morgan's post:

I can actually cite you empirical data and research on this exact topic in a paper published in 1991 by Prof. Ken Mijeski at East. Tenn. State University

And Talley Griffith's IMDb page:

Talley Griffith was born and raised in Virginia, and attended East Tennessee State University

I think claiming to be the cousin of D.W. Griffith is stretching the definition of cousin.

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@jdharm: Amanda Bynes hasn't tweeted in 4 days....might be time to call the Vagina Homicide Division.

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Hayden Panettiere and her ex-boyfriend Wladimir Klitschko are back together

Rumors have been swirling for a couple months that actress Hayden Panettiere and her ex-boyfriend Wladimir Klitschko are back together. Now they've gone rather public with their displays of affection.

TMZ has the pictures of the "Nashville" star kissing the Ukrainian boxer at the Miami Heat-Charlotte Bobcats game in Florida on Sunday (March 24). The two previously dated for two years, but ended things in 2011.

Panettiere has previously been linked to NFL players Scotty McKnight and Mark Sanchez, "Heroes" co-star Milo Ventimiglia and "One Tree Hill" star Stephen Colletti.

http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/2013/03/h ... ether.html

Believe this may be of interest to RI.

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Is a Secret Celebrity Tattletale Actually Robert Downey Jr.?
A certain anonymous commenter has become internet-infamous in the last few weeks by dropping some incredibly detailed, disturbing and very insidery gossip about Hollywood — regarding incest, pedophilia, and secret call girl rings that allegedly involve young starlets like Hayden Panettiere and Amanda Bynes — in the comments section of a popular blind item blog. Crazier than what he's saying is who many believe is doing the blabbing: Robert Downey Jr.
The blog Crazy Days and Nights, supposedly written by an entertainment lawyer (who goes by the handle "Enty"), has been around for a few years and is known mostly for its blind items and the biannual "reveals" of said blind items that the author rolls out every January 1 and July 4. But two weeks ago, things over there got really juicy.

It all started with a particularly sad blind item:

This former B list television actress who was on a really big hit network show just a couple of years ago now just seems to float mindlessly and flit between boyfriends. She comes from a broken home and abusive home. Her dad used to beat her and get into bed with her. Her mom just let it happen because she was being beaten herself and did not want to provoke. Well, now the actress who is still very young only seems to date boyfriends who are abusive and willing to hit her. Her last boyfriend (former A list athlete with B list name recognition) was so scared that he would kill her he broke up with her. Her new celebrity boyfriend does not punch nearly as hard but seems to love it. Probably getting out his anger because he is closeted.

Many immediately guessed the actress to be Hayden Panettiere. (Her mother had actually pressed charges against her father for battery before filing for divorce last year. Also, Hayden's ex-boyfriend is a boxer, hence, the "punch" wordplay.) The mention of abuse and molestation made this blind item pretty dark, but things got even darker in the comments section when prolific CDAN commenter Himmmm chimed in with some very serious accusations:

So here goes: Yes, this IS Hayden.
100% totally. I know this for a FACT. The wording of this item is NOT 100% correct - which may be intentional to deny it legally, but it is close. But there's far more to this than is being mentioned, revealed, or even hinted at. For all you GoogleSleuths out there just look up the past news stories about her Dad getting arrested on "domestic" issues - then her mom dropping it. It's not just about a fight, smack, or basic domestic issues. It's about sexual perversions, videotapes, witnesses, and the loss of MONEY and FAME.

I am a FORMER personal "friend" of a woman named Diana Jenkins. Doubt you know her, but she's the Rosetta Stone of every scandal and perversion from Hwood all over the globe. She's an Uber-wealthy divorcee whose hubby ran UK's Barclay's bank - and she ran the Arab investors for the bank! She's been running a high class call girl/party-girl ring for Arabs, Wall Street, DC, Royals, and Hollywood elites. She's also a MAJOR philanthropist, arts supporter, political donor, and social hostess to EVERYONE. Her best Hwood pals include Sean Penn, Clive Davis, Ari Emanuel, George Clooney, Cindy Crawford, and her "little pet" named Hayden. Diana is the connector of wealthy Arabs and Asians and Athletes with Hwood actresses/models. She also is a sick and twisted bitch. When Hayden and her own Mommy went on the outs, Diana Jenkins took that place in her life, by Hayden's choice.

Leslie P. is not just a poor victim in this trainwreck. Trust me. She's at LEAST 50% responsible (if not more) for encouraging, enabling, and at times even participating in her hubby's twisted fucking life. Leslie's kinks cross the line into depravity, illegality, and inhuman sickness. As in: Ryan ONeal, John Phillips, Tish Cyrus, and Dan Schnieder territory. (Far worse than Pimpa Joe Simpson!)

She's not just had chances to stop it or walk away with the kids, but she elected to not protect her kids - and give in to the hedonistic sickness in her bedroom (all for her own greed). You think Dina Lohan is bad?

Leslie's guilt is compounded by trying to save her daughter's "IMAGE" (so as not affect her earning potential); and hoovering her own mountain of drugs, booze, fame, and fucking (of everything with legs)...Leslie IS as bad as her hubby - maybe worse because she KNEW it was wrong but didn't stop it and at times fueling it.

It's easy to argue that Hayden is forever a victim which drives her own insane life choices - and I'm not a psychologist - but she has taken it further into becoming a willing perpetuator of it (and saying she loves it). Not just the physical and mental violence she enjoys, but her insatiable appetite for the most bizarre shit she can indulge in to "top" herself. She was offered help by some who genuinely cared for her and worried for her. She mocked them and tore off on her own streak. Now? She craves it and considers nothing taboo. NOTHING! Just ask Mario Lopez (right Enty?).



And that's just the half of it. The blind item and Himmmm's comments about Diana Jenkin's secret call girl ring got picked up by the celebrity gossip LiveJournal forum Oh No They Didn't, but things got even darker and more accusatory in the comments section of that post that the moderators locked it. Supposedly commenters had taken hints dropped by Himmmm in past posts and began making some allegations about the sexual perversions of actor turned Nickelodeon producer Dan Schneider, and implications that Diana Jenkins' coffee table book Room 23 is actually a catalog of clients and call girls. But the commenters were mostly concerned with figuring out who Himmmm is. Initially, they thought it was a Hollywood insider, producer-type named Talley Griffith (a descendent of D.W. Griffith and Andy Griffith), but Himmmm found out about their guesses, denied it and gave some background info on his commenting account:

Here's the Himmmm deal:

Many years ago this account was started by 4 guys who were all pals and worked together DEEP inside the biz. Two were famous (rock star and movie star) and the other two were true creative geniuses. Over the years, 3 of them posted on this one account on CDAN. Think of it like Menudo (but without gay Latinos). In a way, we were all Himmmm. Kind of like V in V for Vendetta.

The poor bastard (lol) getting all the heat who was supposedly outed as "him" took the heat to protect ME and my career/privacy. He used to work with me, and his family is part of the biz too. He's an amazing writer, producer, director and musician. He's the pal who got me hooked on Blinds because his family goes back DEEP into old, old Hwood. As in the OLDEST Hwood ever. He's from back East/South, and could explode your brain with the stuff HE knows about real HWood.

Pretty much nobody but me has posted here in the last year (except my CTO who was HimJacker and my wife as Herrrr). Otherwise, it's me. I don't have time to do this all day every day, but try to chime in when I can. It's the only vice I can get away with

We had a serious meeting after this crap spread because it could cause REAL WORLD issues for all of us, especially ME. Err, I mean Himmm. Which IS me. (Shit, I sound like Ted C. now!).

Anyway, people can speculate all they want. That's their right. I will never come out and say my name, and I'll retire this hobby first. Some on CDAN know who I am, and I thank them for their secret-keeping. I am NOT any better or more special than ANY of you (Maja, BigMama, Reno, RocketQ, etc.). I do this for fun, and occasionally to try and right some wrongs (even my own). I don't use an anon name because it's false info I share...I have to be anon because it is TRUE!


Now the general consensus is that Himmmm is Robert Downey Jr., mostly because of things that Himmmm revealed about himmmmself, namely that he was once a mess and nearly destroyed his own Hollywood career but has gotten back on track since getting sober. Additionally, Himmmm will occasionally give a wink to everyone by confirming or denying blind items specifically about RDJ:

I have no issue with ANYTHING people voluntarily do in their private life as long as it is consenting - (kids and animals cannot consent!), and NOT hurting another mentally or physically. I'm no saint, especially in my youth but am close these days-lol. And all I'll say about another old topic? I am NOT a cross-dresser! My wife happens to collect vintage clothing and it's tough to surprise her when you share a home and office. But I admit I DO look good in pumps and a dress,:-)

In another blind item — this one supposedly about Amanda Bynes — Himmmm revealed a bit more, in an effort to make people feel a little better about Hollywood after all the darkness he'd been spouting:

Yes,FYI: There are some AWESOME and GOOD people in Hollywood. Sadly, you don't get ink for being good. (That's twisted, yes I know).

But consider Hwood as a microcosm of the world: Recall the Your Turn about the gross/sick teacher pedos? You knew TONS of them right? But imagine trying to list the GOOD and moral teachers? Would take forever.

On the news each day, all we hear are BAD THINGS and bad people. It's what sells and intrigues. We ALL love Blinds and gossip because we're human. Flawed, but human. Sometimes you just need to realize that Hwood is no more fucked up than the rest of the world - we just get more coverage - in a 24/7 scandal cycle.

So yes, a few awesome Hwood people I know personally: (They have flaws and are not perfect, but they are GREAT people who are the opposite of the other sick fucks):

David Kelley
John Hughes (was the best)
Natasha Gregson Wagner
Bryan Lourd
Neil Patrick Harris
Jon Hamm
Guy Ritchie
Tommy Lee Jones
Susanna Hoffs
Kevin Kline & Phoebe Cates
Drew Barrymore
Steve Martin
Rachel McAdams
Bob Kosberg
Sofia Coppola
Zoe Cassavetes
Moon Zappa
Brad Pitt
John Favreau
Amber Heard
Jerry Bruckheimer
Molly Ringwald
Tom Hanks
Rob Reiner
Susan Downey
Will Staeger
Miranda Cosgrove
Seth Macfarlane
Richard Lovett
Johnny Depp
Akiva Goldsman
Alan Horn
Elton John
Kate Beckinsale
Ron Meyer
and yes...even Mel Gibson (faults and all.)
And about 2,000 other people whose names you'd never recognize.
They're not angels, and not perfect - neither am I. But they are REAL people who know what it means to be a real friend.

RDJ has actually worked with most of these people. Here's what we could find just scratching the surface:

David Kelley on (Ally McBeal)
John Hughes (Weird Science)
Natasha Gregson Wagner (Two Girls and a Guy)
Bryan Lourd (RDJ's agent)
Guy Ritchie (Sherlock Holmes)
Tommy Lee Jones (U.S. Marshalls)
Susanna Hoffs (Less Than Zero)
Kevin Kline & Phoebe Cates (Soapdish)
Drew Barrymore (they share an agent)
Steve Martin (Bowfinger)
Rachel McAdams (Sherlock Holmes)
John Favreau (Iron Man)
Molly Ringwald (The Pick-up Artist)
Susan Downey (his wife)
Miranda Cosgrove (they presented at the Kids Choice Awards together in 2010)
Seth MacFarlane (Family Guy)
Richard Lovett (works at RDJ's agency)
Alan Horn (COO of Warner Brothers)
Elton John (RDJ did the video for his 2001 song "I Want Love")
Ron Meyer (president of Universal Studios; in 2011 he was part of the 25th American Cinematheque Award Honoring RDJ)
Mel Gibson (their friendship goes way back; Gibson helped RDJ secure insurance on a film when he was trying to make his comeback and RDJ spent most of his speech at the American Cinematheque Awards to request that people not blacklist Gibson)

Whether this commenter is or isn't RDJ, what we know for sure is that he seems to be on a mission to out pedophiles, which is kind of noble, and gossip about whores, which is kind of bitchy, and we love Himmmm for that.

Four For Friday - The Show From Hell [Crazy Days and Nights]
Today's Blind Items [Crazy Days and Nights]

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[Spiro C. Thiery]

I think I mentioned this before, but...
Clearly the reason the majority of "Himmmm's" list (or should that be "Hisssss" lists?) is people that RDJ has worked with is because he wants people to believe he is RDJ. But I doubt RDJ would bother to mention so many people he's worked with and yet spell Jon Favreau's name wrong.

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I think I mentioned this before, but...
Clearly the reason the majority of "Himmmm's" list (or should that be "Hisssss" lists?) is people that RDJ has worked with is because he wants people to believe he is RDJ. But I doubt RDJ would bother to mention so many people he's worked with and yet spell Jon Favreau's name wrong.

Really? That? One "h" fuels your doubt?
Ever spelled something wrong, anything?
Ever known someone but pictured their name homophonetically wrong?

[Spiro C. Thiery]

I think I mentioned this before, but...
Clearly the reason the majority of "Himmmm's" list (or should that be "Hisssss" lists?) is people that RDJ has worked with is because he wants people to believe he is RDJ. But I doubt RDJ would bother to mention so many people he's worked with and yet spell Jon Favreau's name wrong.

Really? That? One "h" fuels your doubt?
Ever spelled something wrong, anything?
Ever known someone but pictured their name homophonetically wrong?

RDJ is a pretty intelligent and conscientious person who--in my estimation--would not have made that particular error. And as far as "fueling doubt" is concerned, keep in mind that this is an anonymous poster.

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Really? That? One "h" fuels your doubt?

With this question, you are ignoring the rest of my incredibly short comment, to which there were TWO interlocking points made.

[FourthBase]

I think I mentioned this before, but...
Clearly the reason the majority of "Himmmm's" list (or should that be "Hisssss" lists?) is people that RDJ has worked with is because he wants people to believe he is RDJ. But I doubt RDJ would bother to mention so many people he's worked with and yet spell Jon Favreau's name wrong.

Really? That? One "h" fuels your doubt?
Ever spelled something wrong, anything?
Ever known someone but pictured their name homophonetically wrong?

RDJ is a pretty intelligent and conscientious person who--in my estimation--would not have made that particular error. And as far as "fueling doubt" is concerned, keep in mind that this is an anonymous poster.

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Really? That? One "h" fuels your doubt?

With this question, you are ignoring the rest of my incredibly short comment, to which there were TWO interlocking points made.

True, sorry.

Okay, so maybe it's a friend of Downey's? Posting on his behalf?
If the info is legit, what does it matter?

[Spiro C. Thiery]

I think I mentioned this before, but...
Clearly the reason the majority of "Himmmm's" list (or should that be "Hisssss" lists?) is people that RDJ has worked with is because he wants people to believe he is RDJ. But I doubt RDJ would bother to mention so many people he's worked with and yet spell Jon Favreau's name wrong.

Really? That? One "h" fuels your doubt?
Ever spelled something wrong, anything?
Ever known someone but pictured their name homophonetically wrong?

RDJ is a pretty intelligent and conscientious person who--in my estimation--would not have made that particular error. And as far as "fueling doubt" is concerned, keep in mind that this is an anonymous poster.

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Really? That? One "h" fuels your doubt?

With this question, you are ignoring the rest of my incredibly short comment, to which there were TWO interlocking points made.

True, sorry.

Okay, so maybe it's a friend of Downey's? Posting on his behalf?
If the info is legit, what does it matter?

Maybe. And maybe, if it's him, he should fess up and lay it all out there. But, like you say, if everything is verifiable, it doesn't matter if it's him or not. As a matter of fact, it's not even relevant, which kind of makes me wonder why anyone would WANT to believe it is he.

Either way, to me it smacks of someone who really really wants everyone to believe it's RDJ, which conflicts with his assertion that his anonymity is so important.

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