Romney caught cheating in last night's debate - video:

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Re: Romney caught cheating in last night's debate - video:

Postby lupercal » Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:18 pm

Project Willow wrote:Obama appeared either drugged or altered in that debate. He's such a good boy, was that really necessary? Makes me wonder what's up.

Very perceptive willow, it crossed my mind too that somebody might have slipped some happy juice into his V-8 because he seemed almost preternaturally relaxed. I chalked it up to well-earned confidence ultimately, also good coaching, because he'd REALLY be in a pickle if he'd shown any teeth and said something regrettable. Oh the loops that would have looped 24/7 on every channel from now until the last polling place closed its doors.

I suspect we're seeing a coordinated October surprise that will soon blow over just like Benghazi, Bibi, and Biden's last gaffe have all blown over. Chicago teachers' strike too. When normally credible sources like Andy Kohut of Pew Research trundle onto NPR to say with perfect seriousness that support for Obama is collapsing among African Americans and women on account of last week's debate you know silly season has begun.

So whoever is pulling the strings here, and I suspect it's a co-production of the usual dirty tricksters, they're in for a disappointment because Obama isn't Gore and Joe Biden isn't Joe Lieberman. In other words this too shall pass before Nov. 6 no matter what nasty surprises they have tucked up their sleeves. JMHO.
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Re: Romney caught cheating in last night's debate - video:

Postby lupercal » Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:31 pm

barracuda wrote:Get ready for The Romney Years.

Don't even think it. The Reagan years were bad but the Regan years would be worse. And I have a hunch the electorate will express a similar sentiment on Nov. 6.
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Postby DrVolin » Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:50 pm

Romney wins because of Ohio. War with China before the end of his second term.
all these dreams are swept aside
By bloody hands of the hypnotized
Who carry the cross of homicide
And history bears the scars of our civil wars

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Re: Romney caught cheating in last night's debate - video:

Postby lupercal » Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:29 pm

^ war with China, hell why not. Nothing would surprise me if he got that far, but I don't think he will for just that reason, i.e., even Ohioans aren't eager for yet another war on MENA let alone on Asia. So Obama will take Ohio with a sizable margin that even Kenneth Blackwell wouldn't try to steal. As for this week's polls, lets see if they have legs. Regan still has two more appearances and I frankly don't see how the projectile vomit routine can stay fresh.

Obama Favorability Soars While Romney Remains Least Popular Nominee Since 1984
October 9th, 2012 by Jason Easley

The new ABC News/Washington Post poll reveals that while President Obama’s approval rating jumped to 55%, more Americans still disapprove of Romney than approve of him.

The ABC News/Washington Post poll found the same short term boost for Romney that eventually subsided after the debate,
“Night-to-night data indicate a sizable boost for Romney, and drop for Obama, on Thursday night, a day after their first debate, which Romney widely is seen as having won. But both of those trends subsequently subsided in this poll, conducted Thursday through Sunday.”

Once the new jobs numbers were in the news, and Mitt Romney went back to being Mitt Romney, his bump went away. According to the ABC News poll, Romney gained a net 1 point in favorablility. He went from 44%-49% before the debate to 47%-51% after the debate. President Obama gained a net 4 points in favorability. Obama went from 52%-45% before the debate to 55%-44% after the debate. While Independents remain split on Obama, 49%-50%, Romney is way underwater with them at 44%-52%.

Only other four presidential candidates have had higher unfavorables than favorables at this point in the race in the ABC News/Washington Post poll, and all have gone on to lose
. Jimmy Carter in 1980, Walter Mondale in 1984, George H.W. Bush in 1992, and John Kerry in 2004 were all in Romney’s position and they all lost.
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There is a ton of conflicting polling data floating around right now, because many of these polls captured more of Romney’s post debate bounce than Obama’s increase after the new jobs numbers.
For example, most of the polling in the latest Pew poll that shows Romney up by 4 points was done immediately after the debate. Pew polls are very good, but the latest one appears to have caught a snapshot of the race in the midst of the post Romney bounce.

The bulk of the polling in the latest PPP/Kos poll was done on Thursday and Friday in midst of Romney’s bounce. This is why it shows Romney leading 49%-47%.

In short, the polls are going to tell you different things depending on when the poll was conducted. The ABC News/Washington Post poll was rolling poll over the entire Thursday-Monday period, so it is a bit more reflective of where the race stands right now.

The point is that Romney has not gained a sustained bounce from the debate. His debate performance did not change the fact that the majority of Americans still do not like him. Obama’s increase in favorability is likely due to a combination of his debate performance not alienating anyone, and the good news on the jobs front.

Despite all the panic on the left and conflicting polls, the fundamentals of this race remain the same. Voters like Obama, and they dislike Romney. If history is any indication, this is really good news for Barack Obama and bad news for Mitt Romney.


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Re: Romney caught cheating in last night's debate - video:

Postby Iamwhomiam » Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:53 pm

"Romney wins because of Ohio. War with China before the end of his second term."

Aren't you the cheery one, Dr.

"So whoever is pulling the strings here..."

Haarp! It was Haarp, I tell ya. Haarp has the ability to focus its energy on even the tiniest pea brain...
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Re: Romney caught cheating in last night's debate - video:

Postby DrVolin » Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:49 am

Iamwhomiam wrote:[i]
Aren't you the cheery one, Dr.


Just another realist hoping to be wrong.
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Re: Romney caught cheating in last night's debate - video:

Postby Elvis » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:00 am

Project Willow wrote:Obama appeared either drugged or altered in that debate. He's such a good boy, was that really necessary? Makes me wonder what's up.


I assume they're all on Ambien. Barry was probably up late cramming, needed sleep, Ambien to the rescue.
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