Lindorff: Why such secrecy about Craft Int. in Boston?

[Julian the Apostate]

The Craft angle is interesting. Been following it for a few days now, however I did not realize it is Chris Kyle's company. Weird.

Indeed. And shall his demise be revisited? Worth it, now?

My one question is didn't Joker admit to planning and carrying out the attack? Does anyone have anything substantial showing that not to be the case?

The only substance for that confession so far is...
The word of the FBI agents who took his "statement", whatever that was.
I tend to think suspicion of the FBI in this matter is equally substantial, until further notice.

If so, how is that explained re the whole "Craft did it" theory? Just wondering because I don't see it.

Well, "Craft did it" is a crude caricature, only bought with certainty right now by the Jones crowd.
See my posts above for a more tentative, reasonable set of scenarios and...questions.

If the brothers were framed, so that they were there when bombs were planted by others only to have it pinned on them, wouldn't they have gone through greater lengths to make sure neither of them could talk, instead of letting them go free for a few days and then only killing one of them?

Right, how could they let either live to speak?
He'd be Oswalded, right? Of course?
Hence: @ police

As such, he admitted it, which means:

1)He's lying knowingly (not likely IMB)
2)He's lying unknowingly (why?)
3)He's telling the truth

Or, he didn't really admit it?

4) He hasn't said a word, and they invented a confession from thin air
5) He was coerced into admitting whatever was desired?
6-through-109) Who knows. Not any of us. Yet.

I do find the backpack angle to be intriguing and disturbing, and the questions about Craft in general to be healthy and well-founded, but I have yet to hear a scenario that explains Craft planting the bombs as some sort of a false-flag, Gladio type event and then Joker admitting to doing it.

Yeah, the backpack, the white square! WTF!?
But, also, it might not be Craft. Rather, "just" the National Guard unit from MA.
Not sure a non-Craft is necessarily innocent, though. Not sure at all.

I don't buy 4 or 5 because the accounts we do have of his "confession" all make the rather uncomfortable, from a legal standpoint, statement that he confessed before being read his Miranda rights. If they were going to fabricate his confession, why not go the extra mile and make it airtight without this Miranda issue?

If this were Gladio/false-flag, I don't think it would have been this sloppy, and yet by some magical foresight that they possess, still end up with a convenient patsy. Or maybe all the old-school operatives are sitting there laughing "we'll never give one of these to those Craft guys again!"

[8bitagent]

Sloppy? I sometimes wonder, if 9/11 was a 'false flag' as people allege, why was the Shoebomber/Underwear Bomber/Time Square bomber all "lulzy" to paraphrase internet lingo?
I havent seen any clearcut evidence Boston was a setup, but alas nothing would surprise me. The biggest anomaly is the pathology of a teenager everyone liked and who seemed super normal turning into
terminator commando.

[stickdog99]

The Craft angle is interesting. Been following it for a few days now, however I did not realize it is Chris Kyle's company. Weird.

My one question is didn't Joker admit to planning and carrying out the attack? Does anyone have anything substantial showing that not to be the case?

Does anyone have anything substantial showing that to be the case? Other than the word of unnamed, off the record spooks?

[Joe Hillshoist]

[stillrobertpaulsen]

I briefly got in touch with my friend from the Guard. The National Guard CST exercises are NOT something everyone in the Guard does. It's something my friend finds very disturbing because he would LOVE to take part but his unit only trains for foreign combat and in his words, "haven't done SHIT stateside in 4 years" which makes him wonder what makes his unit different from the Reserves. Very interesting.

[barracuda]

Just in fucking time:

Steven Spielberg is returning to the charged terrain of real-life American events, with the “Lincoln” director announcing Thursday he'll tackle the story of U.S. sniper Chris Kyle as his next directorial project. Bradley Cooper will star as the late Navy SEAL.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/mo ... 5950.story

[stillrobertpaulsen]

Just in fucking time:

Steven Spielberg is returning to the charged terrain of real-life American events, with the “Lincoln” director announcing Thursday he'll tackle the story of U.S. sniper Chris Kyle as his next directorial project. Bradley Cooper will star as the late Navy SEAL.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/mo ... 5950.story

I had to click the link to make sure it wasn't The Onion!

[MacCruiskeen]

I've just realised there have been no pictures posted in this thread yet. Here are some:



Note that this is far stronger prima facie evidence than any so far provided against either of the two l̶y̶n̶c̶h̶e̶d̶ accused Tsarnaev brothers. In any serious criminal investigation, the police would make haste to find and interview The Man With The Vanishing Backpack as a person of interest, i.e., as a fucking suspect.

So who is he? He has a name and it cannot be very hard [for the police] to find.

Any serious free press would also want to know exactly what he, his employers and his colleagues were up to at the Boston Marathon finishing-line that day. Why were they sent there in the first place, in uniform and en masse? What were they supposed to be doing -- supplying security? Preventing murderous acts of terrorism? Keeping a trained professional eye out for discarded backpacks, that kind of thing?

Why are the doings of that private corporation in a public place such a closely-guarded state secret?

[semper occultus]

...what's Mr No-Backpack doing with his hands....? appears to be operating one of these :

[FourthBase]

Great, great questions, Mac.
So far, we've been given piss-poor answers, if any at all.
So, keep asking those great questions, everyone. To everybody who will listen!

[conniption]

Boston Bombing Finish Line Time Lapse of Craft Operatives

4:43 min

[hiddenite]

Sloppy? I sometimes wonder, if 9/11 was a 'false flag' as people allege, why was the Shoebomber/Underwear Bomber/Time Square bomber all "lulzy" to paraphrase internet lingo?
I havent seen any clearcut evidence Boston was a setup, but alas nothing would surprise me. The biggest anomaly is the pathology of a teenager everyone liked and who seemed super normal turning into
terminator commando.

On the lulzy aspect i read a report written by a human rights lawyer on FBI entrapment , she works for CAIR, in which she stated a growing concern that muslims with mental problems were being targetted for entrapment ........not sure if I can find it again

[Twyla LaSarc]

Sloppy? I sometimes wonder, if 9/11 was a 'false flag' as people allege, why was the Shoebomber/Underwear Bomber/Time Square bomber all "lulzy" to paraphrase internet lingo?

Hey kids! Step right up and play revolutionary roulette! 5 out of six bombs/plans don't go off- too bad, thanks for playing, hope you like prison, but it's that special one that will get you all the girls and fame you wanted, perhaps posthumously. You pays your money, you takes your chances.

This casino is all rigged, probably pre-loaded with a number of politically convienent dupes from across the spectrum.

[lupercal]

my quickie du jour is that if Craft was responsible for the bombs they probably could have found a less conspicuous place to rendezvous than the finish line. So I wonder if they're not basically decoys, aka patsies, like the CIA prof? The problem with him is, how is he supposed to have radicalized little brother when his own politics are apparently anything BUT radical? If young Tsarnev was influenced it seems more likely he'd enlist in the marines than plant a bomb in Boston. Unless as justdrew suggested they thought were helping out in a drill. I also wonder if they were ever actually there. They seem awfully indifferent to any bomb action if they were.

[FourthBase]

my quickie du jour is that if Craft was responsible for the bombs they probably could have found a less conspicuous place to rendezvous than the finish line. So I wonder if they're not basically decoys, aka patsies, like the CIA prof? The problem with him is, how is he supposed to have radicalized little brother when his own politics are apparently anything BUT radical? If young Tsarnev was influenced it seems more likely he'd enlist in the marines than plant a bomb in Boston. Unless as justdrew suggested they thought were helping out in a drill. I also wonder if they were ever actually there. They seem awfully indifferent to any bomb action if they were.

You've all seen the original Manchurian Candidate, right?
Appearances can be deceiving. Truth can be as strange as fiction.