"15 Years Later": Europhysics News prints 9/11 CD article

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Postby 82_28 » Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:07 pm

Here's something semi-funny. I sang in a funk band that was named Janus (I personally hated the name). A rock band we would play with was named Tabula Rasa.

I didn't know what any of that shit meant back then. 20+ years ago. No Internet and just your dictionary on the shelf.
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Postby OP ED » Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:41 pm

@Novem,
I have discussed the overtly ritual aspects of 911 on this board several times. The twin pillars are archetypal symbols in Lodge jargon and greater hermeticism (in general) and are oftentimes linked with the various twin god types. Janus is certainly one. The recurring numbers also alluded to ritual aspects.

The effects wouldn't have been successful without these aspects. Among other things, the towers HAD to be completely destroyed. The attack also HAD to occur on the day it did for the resonance to be so deeply intuited by the collective.

I have mentioned this in threads long past, but you may not have been around here back then:

I worked a night shift in 2001. I was just home, and though early for everyone else, I was winding down. Probably drinking and smoking dope. Also watching syndicated Garfield, which was part of my own after work dope-smoking ritual. The show has interludes called "quickies". The last one I ever watched was Garfield attempting to sleep through Monday, because he hates/fears them, only to discover upon waking that it was STILL MONDAY. This happens several times before the endless waking resolves (a common nightmare) into actual waking. This didn't ever resolve for me, because the episode (which I had seen before) was interrupted after the first tower was struck. (the quickie obviously chosen because it actually was Tuesday)

Its been Monday for me (and everything) ever since.
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Postby backtoiam » Sat Sep 10, 2016 9:37 pm

OP ED

The effects wouldn't have been successful without these aspects. Among other things, the towers HAD to be completely destroyed. The attack also HAD to occur on the day it did for the resonance to be so deeply intuited by the collective.


I knew there was some significance to the date and that utter destruction was necessary but I was never sure exactly why. I have done quite a bit of reading in past years but esoteric subjects are so nuanced I was never sure if I had it figured out.

Would you be willing to elaborate further?
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Re: "15 Years Later": Europhysics News prints 9/11 CD articl

Postby OP ED » Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:39 pm

I can most certainly elaborate further but I don't want to detract from the CD science which is the main topic at hand. The implications of woo have a tendency to greatly derail these threads.

In short:
The most obvious reason for the date is the resonance in the minds of Americans as it is intrinsically linked to the idea of emergency in general, being the number we are supposed to dial when something happens.

The numbers of course, are relevant to numerologists but all numbers are relevant to them. However, 9, 11, and especially 93 are of particular importance to post Golden Dawn hermeticists, most especially those of my sort. In Thelemic mysticism the equation 1=0=2 is of paramount importance to understanding the equinox of the gods, that is the changing of aeons. Roughly equivalent to the idea of the new age in popular hipster paganism. That this equation is inversely applied in the attacks implies the very blackest of Magicks, indeed it could literally be interpreted as an attempt to hijack the birth of the aeon's "current" and to forestall the end of time by reversing it. Which is to say that the someones bought themselves an acme dynamite kit but have deliberately avoided reading the enclosed instructions.

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Postby Nordic » Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:25 am

Janus Capital a Group has as its logo the two-faced God as you present, November. Interesting.

https://www.janus.com


And this is pretty random but it makes me think of The Many Faces God from Game of Thrones.

http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Many-Faced_God

And who actually runs the Deep State? We can only guess because they are Faceless.

The Faceless Men believe that they only help bring death to targets of the Many-Faced God


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Postby Harvey » Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:36 am

Perhaps the premier symbolism of September 11 as a date is the 1973 coup in Chile against the Democratic government of Salvador Allende, the first implementation of neo-liberal economic and political 'Shock Doctrine' on such a scale. The national trauma which followed was not dissimilar to the effect of 9/11 upon the USA.

If there ever was a suitable date to celebrate their first implementation of 'the model' and bring this project home, September eleventh was it.
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Postby conniption » Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:49 am

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158 songs banned by Clear Channel after 9/11, plus all by Rage Against the Machine
Published time: 11 Sep, 2016


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While the dust of the September 11 attacks still settled, the controversial media company Clear Channel sent out a list of more than 150 songs it deemed to be "lyrically questionable” to its network of 1,172 radio stations across the US.

Three days after the attack, the now-famous memo was emailed with 158 tunes - and all songs by Rage Against the Machine - which some of its program directors felt would be too sensitive to play in the aftermath of what is called the world’s deadliest “terrorist” attack...continued...
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Postby Novem5er » Sun Sep 11, 2016 11:54 am

82_28 » Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:07 pm wrote:Here's something semi-funny. I sang in a funk band that was named Janus (I personally hated the name). A rock band we would play with was named Tabula Rasa.

I didn't know what any of that shit meant back then. 20+ years ago. No Internet and just your dictionary on the shelf.


That's a weird sync, for sure! Looking back, it's a little spooky.
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Postby Novem5er » Sun Sep 11, 2016 11:54 am

OP ED » Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:41 pm wrote:@Novem,
I have discussed the overtly ritual aspects of 911 on this board several times. The twin pillars are archetypal symbols in Lodge jargon and greater hermeticism (in general) and are oftentimes linked with the various twin god types. Janus is certainly one. The recurring numbers also alluded to ritual aspects.

The effects wouldn't have been successful without these aspects. Among other things, the towers HAD to be completely destroyed. The attack also HAD to occur on the day it did for the resonance to be so deeply intuited by the collective.

I have mentioned this in threads long past, but you may not have been around here back then:

(snip)

Its been Monday for me (and everything) ever since.


OP ED » Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:39 pm wrote:I can most certainly elaborate further but I don't want to detract from the CD science which is the main topic at hand. The implications of woo have a tendency to greatly derail these threads.
(snip)

That this equation is inversely applied in the attacks implies the very blackest of Magicks, indeed it could literally be interpreted as an attempt to hijack the birth of the aeon's "current" and to forestall the end of time by reversing it. Which is to say that the someones bought themselves an acme dynamite kit but have deliberately avoided reading the enclosed instructions.

Welcome to Forever Monday.


OP ED, I have probably read some of your old posts (I've been lurking on the boards since the late 00's), and certainly the ritualistic aspects to 9/11 are nothing new to the conspiracy-sphere and I've learned much about it from posters like yourself. However, I'd never seen a 9/11 reference to Janus before and, specifically, in reference to a ritual to stop time.

I think why this idea hit me so hard is that, for years, I'd been telling friends that we were stuck in a time-loop. Hell, even starting with G.W. Bush and the Iraq War is was "here we go again." Then during the 2008 presidential primary season, when it looked like Hillary Clinton would succeed a Bush in office, it was "here we go again." Obama kind of came out of left fields and was a welcomed breath of fresh air at the time, but of course most of his policies have been a continuation of the Bush doctrine. On the domestic, cultural side, I'd been seeing the repetition of pop culture from the 80's and 90's with popular games and movies. We've all complained that Hollywood has committed to doing nothing but sequels and re-makes for a decade or so, or bringing new life into old properties. This isn't universally true, but I think it is generally true that people have an appetite for the familiar.

We see this continuing today in both pop culture and politics. For the kiddos, the recent MTV video awards featured big performances from a resurrected Brittany Spears and a queen-dominant Beyonce, who became the breakout start from Destiny's Child by their last album which was released in 2001 and aptly titled, Survivor. Star Wars is popular again, as are the Ninja Turtles. LEGOS are the best-selling toy brand in the world. Dungeons & Dragons is quasi-mainstream, now. There's another Transformers and G.I. Joe movie in the works, and a new Voltron cartoon has been popular on Netflix (along with 80's themed Stranger Things!). In politics, our two candidates are flash-backs to the late 80's and early 90's with Trump and Hillary Clinton (again). Earlier in the cycle a great parody was shown with Trump standing in for "Biff" of Back to the Future II's vision of a dystopian future (hey, time travel!).

So I'd been saying things like this for years, and it all clicked when I discovered how closely linked Janus was to the concept of Time, and the obvious connection between time and two pillars, as I illustrated above with the solstices. Janus isn't a perfect occult link to the Twin Towers, and many other connections obviously apply, but Janus' link to Time and Twins, really hits home with me, taken into account the time-loop we've been stuck in since that fateful day.

Nordic » Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:25 am wrote:Janus Capital a Group has as its logo the two-faced God as you present, November. Interesting.

https://www.janus.com


And this is pretty random but it makes me think of The Many Faces God from Game of Thrones.

http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Many-Faced_God

And who actually runs the Deep State? We can only guess because they are Faceless.

The Faceless Men believe that they only help bring death to targets of the Many-Faced God


One thing I've realized since 9/11 is that the world is run by a true Death Cult.


Yes, interesting link with the Many Faced God. I've begun to suspect over the years that, if there is a God, it is a dark entity, cruel and careless with the lives of mortals. If there was any divine assistance on the day of 9/11, it certainly wasn't in our favor, was it?

Back to Janus, there's a reason that investment firm chose him as their icon. As I showed in one of the pictures, Janus appeared on the face of many Roman coins. Emperor Nero minted a coin with his own face on once side and the facade of Janus' temple on the back (in celebration of closing the temple doors in a time of peace, rarely done). Janus not only stood for doorways, portals, and time, he ALSO was a symbol for commerce. All the goods of Ancient Rome flowed through the city gates (sacred to Janus), and he was the god of new beginnings and new enterprises. And those Twin Towers? Yeah, they were the symbol for Western Capitalism, the gates through which so much of our economy flowed (spiritually if not physically). Did you all know that much of the Internet on the East Coast went down on 9/11? I was working at an internet company at the time, so I know (oh, the call volume that day!). One of the towers hosted a large hub of telecom routers, the literal gateways through which information flows. The symbolism just goes on and on....
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Postby OP ED » Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:57 pm

Unlike a lot of people, I never believed the official conspiracy theory. It was quite evident even while the attack was ongoing that someone somewhere near the top of the pentagon food chain was stalling the standard operating procedures. The rank and file of the military apparatus was on point but weren't able to coordinate any response. The narrative failed at several key points.

(An example being that despite the fact that Myers didn't scramble aircraft, supposedly, until after the pentagon was hit, I personally know that the Air Force was aware that this was an attack and not an isolated incident because they called my house to put my father on alert for further instructions possibly to follow, this was only minutes after the second tower was struck, I passed along his working numbers to them, I should imagine a great many reservists received similar calls, and this doesn't make sense given what the top boys say they knew and when)

(I also remember him saying unequivocally that flight 93 was certainly shot out of the sky, because that would be be SOP, and that they would deny any knowledge of this forever)

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(my family has a long history of military service, since the fall of Rome to the Goths)
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Postby 82_28 » Sun Sep 11, 2016 1:22 pm

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Postby Luther Blissett » Sun Sep 11, 2016 4:58 pm

Good stuff Novem5er.

It does remain a fact that the NIST committed scientific fraud in their report by ruling something out for which they had not tested. My impression is that within this place, there are enough paths to investigate without even having to address the "controlled demolition thesis."

It's been a long time since we've spoken about the physical delivery of vast sums of cash / gold to the World Trade Center that morning. Has that story been disproven?

I also want to say that when one sees Janus's coin, one knows one is in for a good film.
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Postby Novem5er » Sun Sep 11, 2016 6:55 pm

Luther Blissett » Sun Sep 11, 2016 4:58 pm wrote:Good stuff Novem5er.

It does remain a fact that the NIST committed scientific fraud in their report by ruling something out for which they had not tested. My impression is that within this place, there are enough paths to investigate without even having to address the "controlled demolition thesis."

It's been a long time since we've spoken about the physical delivery of vast sums of cash / gold to the World Trade Center that morning. Has that story been disproven?

I also want to say that when one sees Janus's coin, one knows one is in for a good film.


Thank you, Luther.

About that gold, I found many websites of questionable-repute talking about it, but here is a NY Times article from Nov 1, 2001 talking about how a bunch of gold and silver stored for the Bank of Nova Scotia was found safe.

About two weeks ago, a security team spotted scorch marks on a basement doorway below 4 World Trade Center, on the east side of the ruined complex, according to officials.

Even in a place of mass devastation and death, those scorch marks got fast attention. They had not been noticed by a patrol team a few hours earlier, and behind the damaged -- but intact -- door were nearly a thousand tons of gold and silver. To security officials, it looked as if someone had tried to break in.

Within hours, a video surveillance system was installed to keep at least an electronic eye on the precious metals until their custodian, the Bank of Nova Scotia, had a chance to remove them. That work began this week.

A team of 30 firefighters and police officers are helping to move the metals, a task that can be measured practically down to the flake but that has been rounded off at 379,036 ounces of gold and 29,942,619 ounces of silver.

As layers of debris are peeled away, recovery workers are opening gangways to intact portions of a 16-acre basement that was largely unseen but was a place of spectacular scope in its own right. Just the basement area of the World Trade Center enclosed twice as much space as the entire Empire State Building.


The article is pretty interesting and went on to talk about what else was known to be stored under WTC, including law enforcement vehicles and the evidence room of the Customers authority, which included seized cocaine and hundreds of weapons.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/01/nyregion/a-nation-challenged-the-vault-below-ground-zero-silver-and-gold.html
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