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Re: General Strike

Postby Luther Blissett » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:59 pm

Freitag » Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:27 pm wrote:
Luther Blissett » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:53 am wrote:Dawg they barely surveyed any coastal states where any of the population centers are. That survey is a lie.

Back in the real world: Majority of young people favor socialism over capitalism for the first time in American history.


Your link references millennials, while mine is specifically about generation "Z", who will be eligible to vote for the first time in 2020.


Not only does the idea that generation z swinging conservative would fly in the face of any scholarship of deep history, but Huffington Post commits the common crime of mislabeling millennials, since most agree that current college students (part of that Pew survey, and among those with strong opinions of socialism) are not millennials. I used it for the headline because the data about young people is buried on the Pew survey link.

Probably because they don't want it to be true - yet it is.
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Re: General Strike

Postby Freitag » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:18 pm

The people in the link you provided were 18-29, meaning they can already vote. My link is specifically about a cohort that will be eligible to vote for the first time in 2020.
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Re: General Strike

Postby American Dream » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:25 pm

Joshua Clover is doing important work on these sorts of questions:

Terminal Showdown

By Joshua Clover / 29 January 2017

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An airport is a funny thing, one that gives you access to other places but is not much of a place itself. But its underlying character has changed dramatically in the last few decades. If the glamour and hope of flying off for a visit or a new life still cling to the terminals, the airport has become a hub for the workaday circulation of goods at a global level.

This has been peculiarly true since the global downturn of manufacturing in the seventies. In April 1973, Federal Express delivered its first package; four decades later, FedEx has the fourth-largest fleet in existence. By freight it is the biggest airline in the world. At Oakland International, my local airport, the FedEx hangar and logistics hub crouches independent of the two modest passenger terminals, a behemoth with the gravity of a planet. It’s their world; we’re just living in it.

This transformation has happened behind the back of consciousness, and largely beyond our descriptions of the political situation. It would be hard to say it played a role in the protests of Saturday night. The narrative drama of airports — from Tom Hanks vehicle The Terminal to the flight of Edward Snowden — is about those who can’t leave or can’t arrive, and so end up trapped in this metaplace, separated out from life. It is funny or strange or exciting. Except of course behind all of these it is surely terrifying being seized by uniformed thugs, thrown in a room, at the mercy not of fate but arbitrary laws and state power.

It was regarding people held in these rooms that large protests erupted at airports across the US: 10,000 reported in Seattle, similar numbers at SFO and O’Hare. The epicenter however was at John F. Kennedy International in New York, where the protest began. At least two Iraqi refugees were being held upon attempting to enter the country, per the previous day’s “travel ban”: an Executive Order halting immigration from seven nations which supposedly issue forth, in the perfervid imaginings of the world’s most powerful nitwit, a Muslim threat. The Executive Order further prevented green card holders from those countries from reentering the US, should they have left. Borders were snapping shut. Protestors descended with remarkable swiftness on Terminal Four, and then on the walkway outside, the tiered parking garage, the AirTran passage. Taxi drivers called for a work stoppage at the airport. Police tried to stop protestors from entering the terminal, from using the AirTran, from coming by subway through Howard Beach, all with little success. Finally a judge in Brooklyn and then one in Chicago issued stays against full implementation of the order; the people who were already en route could not be deported. Some detainees were freed; as of this writing it is not clear who is still captive. Nonetheless there was real jubilation at the granting of the stay, at each release, at the crowd’s somewhat surprised recognition of its own scope. A friend texted to say they were on the verge of tears. It is apparent that this limited victory for large and largely spontaneous activist response is a registration of the unexpected velocity at which Trump’s nativist ambitions are racing. Saturday night was as filled with hope for a nascent political response as late January has been saturated with fear.

It is worth saying that the previous administration’s policies on immigration, and on Muslims, were less than admirable. Mass deportation and extrajudicial assassination set the tone. To the extent that the protests have oriented themselves toward a renewed Democratic Party power, they are hard to parse. Many signs at the airports suggested that the Executive Order was unAmerican, against all evidence. It is impossible to want a do-over of the election and also want Muslims and many others to be free from threat of deportation, arbitrary arrest, and death from above. Moreover, a nationalist appeal corresponds to a distinction between “good Muslims” who wish to assimilate to American ways, and “bad Muslims” who do not. This is a fatal vision that will set up some as targets so others can pass through customs. Patriotism and free movement are unhappy bedmates. This contradiction on the side of anti-Trump forces is likely to develop further.

It is also worth pausing over the obvious: the fact and thematic of border closures, so exemplary of Trump’s political project, is hardly his innovation. It increasingly appears as the fundamental political issue of the 21st century. The linchpin of Brexit, it has also been the subject of elaborate maneuverings throughout Europe, include the telling agreement by which refugees arriving in Greece or Italy would be sent back to Turkey in return for Brussels’ greater control over the frontiers. The EU, the UK, the US: all are narrowing their apertures for immigration. Terrorism is a preferred alibi, alongside vaguely Malthusian panic. An exhaustion with subordination to global policies seeming to originate elsewhere is palpable; xenophobia a constant thrum, which every vote and policy shift seeks to embolden. Economics are impossible to escape. Caught between high productivity and low profitability, the capacity to absorb labor in the core economies is not what it used to be. Which brings us back to FedEx and refugees and their relationship.

The rise of FedEx is the fall of manufacture and industry in the leading economies, almost precisely; weakness developing in the sixties drops off a cliff in 1973. Capital increasingly shifts its quest for profits into the realm of circulation, finance, transport. Workers shift there if they can find any foothold whatsoever within the new economy. We see a burgeoning production of non-production — of surplus capacity and surplus populations, unable to be brought together and productively employed. On the one hand, more and more of capital’s churn depends on the global scope and velocity of circulation; on the other, more and more people are market dependent without the forlorn opportunity to become wage dependent. They too are cast into circulation.

This is more or less what Riot.Strike.Riot is about: riots, but more saliently the rise of “circulation struggles.” These are the varied kinds of social conflict that come to the fore when the production struggles that predominated in the age of workers’ movements wane. The power of the traditional strike that denies the boss his profits has been, by and large, an artifact of an expansionary capitalism. When the economy goes zero-sum or starts to contract, the pressure shifts elsewhere, and it is elsewhere that social antagonisms manifest.

Workers have not ceased to struggle for themselves or to join in the struggles of others. The recompositions of the labor market have changed how this looks Increasingly they take on the aspect of circulation struggles, unfolding in the transport sector, staging themselves in the street rather than the factory, often in collaboration with non-workers. The participation last night of the New York Taxi Workers Alliance is a perfect example. It is a significant and sizable union — but it is the circulation sector, both conceptually and literally. The taxis and cars are operated independently by drivers who pay costs and fees and take some portion of their earnings as revenue, rather than receiving a wage from an owner whose productivity depends on them running. If they went on strike last night, it was a strike against themselves. Or rather, it was targeted at consumers, not producers. Marketside, to be technical. If it was against a great machine, it was against the machine of the city, against the smooth operation of moving things from here to there. More of a riot, really. In this it corresponded to the series of airport shutdowns not just in spirit but in logic.

This is not say that that anyone wakes up in the morning and thinks to themselves, “today is a good day for a circulation struggle!” What it means is that the rearrangements of bodies and economies and political frameworks pushes confrontations more forcefully toward some places and situations than others. One hardly needs to recount those who blocked highways across the US in 2014, against a state policy of killing black kids when not jailing them — a way to manage an already racialized population rendered surplus mostly by deindustrialization. There must have been a mutual recognition with Mexico last month, when privatization of national oil and corresponding price increases spurred el Gasolinazo, based in widespread road blockages. Neither moment invented this tactic, most popular in the medieval and early modern eras as the world market opened. It is revenant, to be sure. In Indiana last week, State Bill 285 proposed to require public officials to “dispatch all available law enforcement officers … with directions to use any means necessary to clear the roads of the persons unlawfully obstructing vehicular traffic.” This is inseparable from the circumstance of refugees, immigrants, travelers; for all its ethical power, this is also a story of surplus. Struggles we might place under the uncertain rubric of “human rights” and those of economic combat now look more or less the same. The refugees fleeing Syria, e.g., are driven by civil war, destruction of homes, drought, social collapse; a European economy unable to absorb any workers means refugees will be stranded in transit and in public, encamped in the plazas of cities and outside them, trying to get somewhere else. The global circulation of goods is matched by this flow of bodies. The question of borders increasingly appears as a contradiction between the free flow of capital and brutal limitations on humans. The flashpoints are places of transit. The camp at Calais, the Mediterranean coast. Frontiers, bus and train stations, ports, airports. Trump’s Executive Order takes it significance both from rising nativism’s racial hatred, and from this political-economic trajectory. They are one fist, dripping blood.

It is certain that these will continue to be points of rising antagonism. The most dramatic event of Occupy in the US was the blockade of the Oakland Port, about 25,000 strong. Two months later, planning another march, they threatened to shut down the Oakland airport. The FedEx center haunted discussions. It was broadly held within and without the movement that this was suicide, figuratively if not literally; that no one would be sympathetic, that Homeland Security cops would shoot to kill if crucial circulation infrastructure was threatened. Yesterday was the fifth anniversary of this march, as a friend reminded me. Airports are now sites of open confrontations, a development presaged by Black Lives Matter protests at London Airport and others last year. The horizons for struggle are shifting. Ideas of how to fight back develop alongside the transformations of the world.

The political question, however, is not reducible to tactics. It is in some regard one of finding a unity. It is inarguable that the travelers detained last night, hauled into some tawdry and terrifying back room behind a grotesque commandment from the Head Cracker in Charge, were political prisoners. In this should be the recognition that racialized hyperincarceration in the US has delivered political prisoners by the millions. Prisons are the other of airports, the nonplace that denies access to all places. Last night’s protests must also orient themselves toward that fight rather than the patriotic restoration of a liberal regime which helped engineer those prisons.

Indeed, if there is a striking feature of the political field underscored by last night’s events, it is the dissolution of the left-right spectrum’s explanatory power. The Brexit vote, or SYRIZA’s forced alignment with Europe’s banks, have shown the weakness of that political map. Left and right now largely stand for different approaches to managing the crisis; neither is working, hence the disarray. In its place, the evident dynamic is between the included and the excluded: those who can be internalized to the logic of state and capital both, and those who cannot. The border, the wall, is both reality and figure for this arrangement, though it is no less visible in the banlieues ringing Lyon or the shantytowns of Sao Paulo. It is not a matter of choice but necessity. These exclusion zones will be a basis of emancipatory struggle if there is to be one at all.




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Re: General Strike

Postby Luther Blissett » Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:11 pm

Freitag » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:18 pm wrote:The people in the link you provided were 18-29, meaning they can already vote. My link is specifically about a cohort that will be eligible to vote for the first time in 2020.


You're here and are a student of deep history, what would have made this trajectory somehow completely reverse course? The youth have been turning more and more progressive since the industrial revolution and the birth of modernism. It's just inaccurate.
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Re: General Strike

Postby Freitag » Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:43 pm

Luther Blissett » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:11 am wrote:
Freitag » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:18 pm wrote:The people in the link you provided were 18-29, meaning they can already vote. My link is specifically about a cohort that will be eligible to vote for the first time in 2020.


You're here and are a student of deep history, what would have made this trajectory somehow completely reverse course? The youth have been turning more and more progressive since the industrial revolution and the birth of modernism. It's just inaccurate.



I'm sure it's a rejection of identity politics and PC culture. University campuses are like insane asylums these days, and kids are calling the Left out on its bullshit. And I don't believe that youth have become more socialist over time like you say. My guess is that there was a peak in the 30s, after the Great Depression when capitalism looked like it had failed, another peak in the 60s with the hippie movement and another peak with Obama, which we're on the other side of now.

By the way, the USSR agitated disaffected groups in the 60s with anti-capitalist propaganda, something that I'm convinced Russia still does today.
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Re: General Strike

Postby Iamwhomiam » Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:12 pm

That's not true, Freitag. It asks those who are 18 and older, if you'll look more carefully.
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Re: General Strike

Postby Luther Blissett » Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:40 pm

I work at a university, the PC culture, even at a progressive and science-focused place, doesn't exist. It's just a phantom made up by reactionaries and it feels good to talk about and find examples of - the types of examples that have always existed.

Favorability ratings for socialism were moderately high in the 30s (a level surpassed in the 60s) and low in the 40s but have been on a steady climb since then. Favorability ratings today are now much higher than they were in the 30s. They didn't peak under Obama and we're not on the other side of that now - that's just something you said.
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Re: General Strike

Postby Freitag » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:15 pm

Luther Blissett » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:40 am wrote:I work at a university, the PC culture, even at a progressive and science-focused place, doesn't exist. It's just a phantom made up by reactionaries and it feels good to talk about and find examples of - the types of examples that have always existed.


Do you work at all the Universities? In any case I'll stand by my comment, as I've worked at a University myself in the recent past.

Favorability ratings for socialism were moderately high in the 30s (a level surpassed in the 60s) and low in the 40s but have been on a steady climb since then. Favorability ratings today are now much higher than they were in the 30s. They didn't peak under Obama and we're not on the other side of that now - that's just something you said.


Speaking of things people just say - do you have a source for that? I'm very skeptical that socialism's popularity was on the rise in the 80s and 90s. My guess would be that its popularity rose along with social media, as it provided the Russians an easy means of stirring up anti-capitalist sentiment, just like the old days.
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Re: General Strike

Postby Luther Blissett » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:02 pm

What happened to you at the university to make you scared? I highly disagree that they resemble anything like an insane asylum. I have attended them some time ago, and now while I'm based at one, I've lectured and conducted workshops at many.

The primary difference between my time in school and today is that the students are more connected and informed. They certainly aren't rejecting the left! They've been protesting every day since the inauguration.

Maybe another poster can find the specific opinion poll-based chart of political opinion that was released along with the historic polling data that first showed the shift last year, but this infers most of it: http://www.people-press.org/2011/11/03/ ... e-changed/

Millennials are the country's largest generation and have the most access to human knowledge in history. This is why they and the upper reaches of Generation Z prefer socialism. We might also recall Mother Jones's survey comparing how Americans want wealth divided, how they think wealth is divided, and how it is actually divided. That was all Americans – including conservatives – wanting a more equitable society than the one we have without knowing they wanted it.

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Re: General Strike

Postby Freitag » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:09 pm

Luther Blissett » Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:02 pm wrote:Millennials are the country's largest generation and have the most access to human knowledge in history. This is why they and the upper reaches of Generation Z prefer socialism.


I doubt that millennials "prefer socialism", but I'll grant it for the sake of argument. If they do, it's because the economy tanked at the worst time for them, leaving them with massive student loans they now had little hope of repaying. They're scared. Understandably so. Lots of people took refuge at Universities during the recession, because the real world suddenly held nothing for them. (Is that why you sheltered yourself at University too? The scary real world?) So of course socialism, A.K.A. other people's money, suddenly looked like the answer. This is all just my opinion, but it's as valid as your quote above which is just your opinion. So I guess we'll agree to disagree.
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Re: General Strike

Postby DrEvil » Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:35 am

^^Yeah, nothing to do with social democracy actually working, as opposed to the dominionist fascism you voted for.

I have to ask: Are you happy with how things are going so far under Trump? Was it everything you dreamed of?

Edit: people took refuge at universities? Since when was education free in the US (I mean, that would be socialism, wouldn't it)? Why would people try to ride out a recession by having no job and taking up loans? Are you just making this shit up in your Trump-addled brain or do you have any sources for that?
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Re: General Strike

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:38 am

now hold on a minute we haven't bombed Australia Iran yet

or invaded Mexico

it is a hard job destroying the world it might take another week or two
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Re: General Strike

Postby Freitag » Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:18 am

DrEvil » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:35 pm wrote:your Trump-addled brain


I almost engaged until I saw the ad-hominem. U mad bro?
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Re: General Strike

Postby Elvis » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:20 am

Look at it this way: we're all Trump University students now.

Trump and the incoming Wall Street mafia are going to take our money and really give us the screwing we deserve.

It's gonna be so good. It's gonna be so incredibly good. And America is gonna be so great. Really amazingly great. In a very big way, it's going to be amazing. And it's going to be incredibly huge.
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Re: General Strike

Postby justdrew » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:21 am

the Fiends! forcing people into getting education merely to improve their job prospects! It's like some kinda god damn nightmare. Now evrybudiel ave a good jawd buidin trumps perimid. with out takin owt lowns, just than maxing they credit cawrds for per scipshun paintkillerz.
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