Huge explosion in Oslo

[kenoma]

jesus christ, Hugh. Yes Ireland is indeed an island, and there are islands in Norway too. Well spotted.

If that's all you can see, you're utterly blind. You're smarter than that. moving on.

The thing about the Irish, Hugh, we don't think of ourselves as living on an island. Weird I know, but there it is. 'island of ireland' just sounds weird, it's only said in very specific contexts.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Jeff said, "Take it somewhere else, Hugh." So I am.

Re: July 22 as mini-9/11. Know what was published the day before?

In the interest of keeping Big Picture traction, chew on this Pew poll about 9/11 views in the Muslim world l from a few days ago.
Yes, Pew is The Establishment's poll machine and they skew that way. They leave out who those people think DID do 9/11.
BUT. A starting point...

The left-gatekeeper Huffington Post cites the Pew poll showing 'the Muslim world' doesn't believe Arabs did 9/11 while 'in the West this is considred irrefutable.' HAH.
When? ONE DAY BEFORE THE OSLO MINI-9/11.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/2 ... 06176.html

Pew Survey: Arabs Not Responsible For 9/11, Say Majority In Muslim Nations

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A report released today by the Pew Research Center reveals that a majority of Muslims in several Middle Eastern countries believe that the Sept. 11 attacks were not carried out by Arabs. The report, titled "Muslim-Western Tensions Persist," sought to investigate public attitudes about the relationship between the two global communities.

For the portion of the survey related to the Sept. 11 attacks, responses were gathered from Muslims in Egypt, Turkey, the Palestinian territories, Jordan, Lebanon, Israel, Indonesia and Pakistan. A majority of Muslim respondents in each of these countries said they did not believe the 9/11 attacks were carried out by Arabs, the highest rate being in Egypt where 75 percent of Muslims said they did not believe that Arabs were responsible, closely followed by 73 percent of Muslim respondents in Turkey.

No more than 28 percent of Muslim respondents in any of these countries said they accept that the attack was carried out by Arabs, something seen as an inarguable fact in the United States and other Western nations.

The broader results of the survey, part of the Pew Center's Global Attitudes project, show that both Muslim and Western public opinion believes that relations between the two groups are problematic. A majority of respondents in France, Germany, Spain and Britain say that Muslim-Western relations are bad, while 48 percent of Americans and 38 percent of Russians agree. Similar majorities of the predominantly Muslim nations listed above agreed that relations were poor.

The two populations shared widespread concern over the influence of Islamic extremism and the lack of prosperity in Muslim nations, however, they diverged in explaining the causes of these conditions. A majority (53 percent) of Muslims believed that U.S. and Western foreign policy was a factor in the lack of prosperity for Muslim nations, while only 14 percent of Westerners believed this to be so.

Another major distinction arising from the survey was the preeminence of national versus religious identity. In each of the Muslim countries surveyed, with the exception of Lebanon and the Palestinian territories, respondents said they identified as a Muslim first and with their nationality second. Meanwhile, overwhelming majorities of respondents in the Western countries said their nationality took precedence over their religious identity, except in the United States where an equal split of 46 percent each said that they identified first as an American or first as a Christian.

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Pakistan Poll: 66% say US forces didn't kill bin Laden | YouGov ...
"5 May 2011 – Pakistan Poll: 66% say US forces didn't kill bin Laden ... -Less than a quarter think he authorised the 9/11 attacks. ... between Pakistan and India as two rival centres of Asian power since British-controlled India was ..."
http://www.yougov.polis.cam.ac.uk/pakis ... -bin-laden

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_ ... nion_polls

Same day, July 22 2011 at Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth...."48% of New Yorkers Want New Investigation of WTC Building 7"

Point being, July 22 was a good day to have a mini-9/11.

[DrVolin]

Hugh, unless you're thinking that Architects and Engineers are also in on it, I think you might be underestimating the logistics of getting something like this off the ground in a very short time for a very specific date, with no forewarning.

[cptmarginal]

The company was successful although most of the funds were channelled through a Caribbean subsidiary (with base in Antigua, a location where European countries do not have access): Brentwood Solutions Limited with bank accounts in other Caribbean nations and Eastern Europe. E-Commerce Group was terminated in 2007 while most of the funds were channelled in an "unorthodox manner" to Norway available to the coming intellectual and subsequent operations phase.

http://www.google.com/search?source=ig& ... gle+Search
http://www.scamvictimsunited.com/phpBB2 ... =16&t=1416
http://www.scriptlance.com/projects/1137174200.shtml

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[MacCruiskeen]

I've sent emails, with relevant links, to Glen Greenwald at Salon and to Norway Indymedia. Let's see.

Good on you. Please keep us informed of any relevant feedback.

[Jeff]

Jeff said, "Take it somewhere else, Hugh." So I am.

Me and my imprecision.

That was a Winehouse thread. This is an Oslo thread. Your solipsistic Nine-Elevenism doesn't belong in either thread.

And as ever, please note.

[barracuda]

Point is, there are two different versions of his face book page flying around the internet. While everyone is fumbling around being genuinely scullfucked, the killers are laughing. Before, 12:12 AM GMT the facebook page did not include a reference to COD:Modern Warfare 2. Sometime an hour or two after 12:12 AM GMT, it did include a reference to COD:Modern Warfare 2. The Google cache of the image was made after I saved the page, it too does not include any reference to COD:Modern Warfare 2. Believe what you will.

I don't really want to drive traffic to her site, but Pamela Gellar has some questions regarding versions of the FaceBook page here.

[Harvey]

Point is, there are two different versions of his face book page flying around the internet. While everyone is fumbling around being genuinely scullfucked, the killers are laughing. Before, 12:12 AM GMT the facebook page did not include a reference to COD:Modern Warfare 2. Sometime an hour or two after 12:12 AM GMT, it did include a reference to COD:Modern Warfare 2. The Google cache of the image was made after I saved the page, it too does not include any reference to COD:Modern Warfare 2. Believe what you will.

I don't really want to drive traffic to her site, but Pamela Gellar has some questions regarding versions of the FaceBook page here.

I couldn't be sure that all the personal stuff in version 2 wasn't due to me not being logged on to facebook so I've avoided dealing with the ton of extra shite that is visible in later versions, to stay close to the truth as far as I can prove it. The one thing I know wasn't there before is the reference to CoD Modern Warfare 2. Someone added that after 12:12 AM GMT of the 23rd July. If the wider world takes notice of this we've got at least some of their murderous nonsense pinned down.

[elfismiles]

Copycat effects... ?

6 Killed In Grand Prairie, Texas Roller Rink Shooting
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2011/07/23/5-ki ... -shooting/

10 people shot at Kent, Washington car show
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/l ... ng24m.html

[elfismiles]

I sware that looks like a virtual wax face.

Also from the TeamLiquid site:

[Brentos]

How do we know he crafted the manifesto?
This site, authored by someone who claims they knew the real (as opposed ted kaczynscki ) person behind the unabomber bombs & manifesto came to mind:
http://unabombers.com/
(as a related aside this site is worth a critical look, as it has a deal of evidence[photos] to back up it's claims).

Whats really odd, is why would this guy kill others of his race, especially young innocents, if he is so loving of his race? You have to buy deep into the mad gunman story.
A lot of oddness. Not saying he didn't do it necessarily, just I can see why the DERANGED gunman meme can be accepted, since the story is DERANGED, regardless of the truth.

[MacCruiskeen]

German newspapers are now reporting that Norwegian television has reported that the killer was incapacitated by tear gas fired from the air* before being arrested, although Norwegian police have not yet confirmed this and the source is apparently anonymous, and the story hitherto had been that no police helicopters could be used at all because of the huge risk of them being shot down by the waxy-faced übermensch, which also explains, or rather explained, or rather purported to explain, why the police in that quaint old country had to spend an hour or more driving to the island and taking boats over rather than simply flying there in, say, police helicopters, while Norwegian TV reporters miraculously managed to film the waxy-faced übermensch from a helicopter as he went calmly about his murderous business undisturbed by the police and apparently wholly unperturbed by the Norwegian TV helicopter, which he didn't shoot down or even, it seems, notice.

fwiw

and so it goes

*This is, of course, a sure-fire method of reliably incapacitating a single individual among several hundred others on a heavily-wooded island.

[TheDuke]

http://www.kevinislaughter.com/wp-conte ... ndence.pdf

Apologies if posted before.

[Pierre d'Achoppement]

I think someone else brought it up before, isnt it also strange how the link to his alleged facebook page was allover the web before the gunman even surrendered to the police? At least that''s how i remeber it. So how and when and who found that facebook page anyway? Can someone remember where that link originated from?

[barracuda]

TV2, Norway’s largest broadcaster, identified him by name sometime after the arrest and it was all downhill from there, Pierre.

German newspapers are now reporting

Here's still another version, from the Mirror:

Anders Breivik’s one-man killing rampage on Utoya island only ended when he ran out of bullets – forcing him to surrender to police.

The Christian fundamentalist was chased by an armed SWAT team for half a mile across the tiny island before they eventually cornered him at a remote spot near the shore.

As officers prepared to open fire on the 32-year-old he calmly stopped, held up his hands and gave himself up.

The capture came shortly after 6pm – two-and-a-half hours after his killing spree had begun when he planted a deadly car bomb in Oslo city centre.

Yesterday, describing the moment the massacre was brought to an end, ­Norway’s police chief Bjorn Eric Jacobsson said: “He did not panic. He just surrendered and police arrested him.

“He only had one gun that was an automatic weapon and we believe he run out of bullets. He was taken away immediately by officers.”