Mass Shooting in California

[chump]

FWIW:

http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2014/06/el ... mment-form

... Elliot Rodger named Dr Charles Sophy as one of his psychiatrists.

Dr. Charles Sophy's domestic partner is Bruce Voss.

Dr. Charles Sophy currently serves as the Medical Director for the Los Angeles County Department of Children and family Services (DCFS), the nation's largest Child Welfare System.

As Medical Director, Sophy is responsible for directing the physical and mental health, as well as assisting in ensuring the safety, of over 40,000 foster care children.

Elliot Rodger (above with father and sister) did not have the Autism disorder called Asperger's Syndrome.

According to a spokesman for the Rodger family, Elliot Rodger was never diagnosed with Autism or Asperger's.

Rodger’s manifesto did not mention communication difficulties or anything about receiving any educational services.

He never mentions anything to do with Autism.

Elliot Rodger Was Never Diagnosed With Autism

Police officers, "who spend their days dealing with violent, troubled people", described Elliot Rodger as "polite and courteous"...


... Elliot Rodger does mention meetings with a 'life coach' called Tony and the psychiatrist who prescribed him medication called Risperidone which is associated with CIA mind control.

Simon Astaire, a family friend, was appointed to speak for the Rodger family and he told The Telegraph that Elliot had been seeing psychiatrists since an early age.

Sophy with porn actress Mary Carey.

A Beverly Hills 'psychiatrist' named Charles Sophy treated Elliot Rodger until Autumn 2013.

Psychiatrist Who Treated Elliot Rodger

Sophy has Lebanese Christian origins.

The CIA is said to employ a number of Lebanese Christians.

Sophy's clients have reportedly included Paris Hilton, Spice Girl Mel B and Russell Armstrong who died in mysterious circumstances.

Is Dr. Charles Sophy Paris Hilton's Mind Control Handler?

Sophy was 'closely involved' with the Michael Jackson child abuse case in 2003...

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http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2014/06/el ... mment-form

Anonymous1 June 2014 00:43

http://psychwatch.blogspot.com/2007_06_01_archive.html
Psych Watch - Wednesday, June 20, 2007
Paris Hilton's Psychiatrist Doctor is not an M.D.

Update: Note that the anti-osteopath bias is as seen on Radar Online, although this may have been picked up from one of their sources. We have observed a number of message boards where the MD vs DO debate has been running hot and heavy. It is our understanding that being an MD is a prerequisite to being a Psychiatrist, since it is a prerequisite for a license to prescribe drugs. Here's the hot news ....

Radar has discovered that Dr. Charles Sophy, the psychiatrist that visited Paris Hilton in jail and aided with her initial release, is neither the UCLA professor his website claims he is, nor the board-certified M.D. he's reputed to be. (Not that anyone could tell by reading his press, which often cites him as an M.D.)

Sophy is actually a D.O., or Doctor of Osteopathy. Though osteopaths are still considered licensed doctors in America (not, however, in Europe) and Sophy serves as the legitimate medical director of the L.A. County Department of Family and Child Services, he does not seem eager to tout his full credentials—perhaps because a D.O. is considered by many M.D.s to be the fake Rolex of the medical profession.

Sophy claims on his website that he is triple board certified in psychiatry, family practice, and adolescent psychiatry, though he makes no reference to the fact that these are osteopathic boards and not titles issued by the Medical Board of California. Sources from both the Medical and Osteopathic boards confirm his background.

Even more suspect, Dr. Sophy, who often appears as an expert on PBS and Fox News, claims to hold an Associate Clinical Professorship at the University of California, Los Angeles, Neuro-Psychiatric Institute—which he does not.

Instead, according to academic officials at UCLA, Sophy is merely a volunteer clinical instructor. "This is an entry-level position at best," the source tells Radar. "He cannot claim himself to be a professor here by any means."

This is not the first red flag when it comes to Sophy's practices. In the Hilton case, he has made unauthorized, early morning visits to Paris throughout the trial and has argued to keep her out of court on the grounds that she is "not capable" of testifying. Fishier still, Sophy was closely involved with the Michael Jackson molestation case in 2003 and was accused of leaking a social worker's memo about the pop star's innocence to the press—a memo he had unique access to from his then-newly minted position as director of the L.A. County DFCS. He would not comment on the memo, telling the press simply: "I'm involved in the Jackson case ... but not the way that you think."

Several phone calls to Dr. Sophy's office and the L.A County DFCS were not returned.
He could be in very big trouble if he was prescribing psychiatric drugs, dangerous as they are, without an appropriate license.
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Anonymous1 June 2014 00:50

http://www.necn.com/01/08/13/Preliminar ... kID=821275
NECN - January 08, 2013
Preliminary hearing continues in Colo. movie theater massacre case

(NECN/NBC News: Leanne Gregg, Centennial, Colo.) - The unfolding of mass murder continues Tuesday as prosecutors methodically outline their case against 24-year-old James Holmes.

On the first day of testimony, Aurora police officers fought to hold back tears as they described efforts to rush victims to the hospital, and the bloody scene inside the theater.

The sounds of people screaming, an alarm going off, and cell phones ringing are difficult for family members of victims to hear.

"It's heartbreaking the entire testimony from the officers," says Sam Soudani, whose daughter survived the shooting.

One of the officers said at first he thought James Holmes was a SWAT patrolman because of how he was dressed.

Holmes, he said, was completely compliant during his arrest and told officers about bombs in his apartment.

Theater surveillance video showed Holmes arriving for the "Dark Knight Rises" premiere around midnight. Records show he bought his ticket to the movie online weeks before.

One psychiatrist says that could mean prior planning of the attack.

"You can be in a detached state of mind, a psychotic state of mind, a not clear thinking poor state of mind, either because of a mental health problem or something else, and be planning this stuff and be premeditated," says psychiatrist ****Dr. Charles Sophy.**** ...

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Anonymous1 June 2014 01:37


http://dcfshelp.com/press/dr-charles-so ... -insomnia/
Los Angeles DCFS Help - May 01, 2013
Department of Children and Family Services

Dr. Charles Sophy Uses the Fisher Wallace Stimulator
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... erapy.html
Daily Beast - 30 November 2010
Fisher Wallace Stimulator: Behind the do it yourself shock therapy

Can This Gadget Cure Depression?

Electroshock therapy has a long and notorious reputation, but the new Fisher Wallace Stimulator promises to alleviate a host of disorders—at home. Casey Schwartz takes the device for a test drive.
...
[Blahblahblah...sales pitch]
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Anonymous1 June 2014 03:08

http://drsophy.com/about-us/
"Dr." Sophy - About im

November 2003 – Present
Medical Director, County of Los Angeles Department of Children and Family Services, Interim Chief Deputy Director (Acting) (April–October 2004) Los Angeles, California
January 2003 – Present
Child/Adolescent and Adult Psychiatry, Private Practice Beverly Hills, California,
September 1999 – Present
Clinical Instructor, University of California Los Angeles, Neuropsychiatric Institute, Los Angeles, California
**March 2001 – May 2003**
***Medical/Clinical Director, MacLaren Children’s Center***, County of Los Angeles, Department of Mental Health, Los Angeles, California October
1998 – March 2001
***Medical Director, Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, County of Los Angeles, Department of Mental Health Children’s System of Care Sector 1,*** Los Angeles, California
October 1998 – April 2002
*Child/Adolescent Psychiatry, Los Padrinos Juvenile Hall, Los Angeles, California*
January 1997 – March 2001
*Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, County of Los Angeles, Department of Mental Health Children’s System of Care, Long Beach, California*
June 1996 – April 2001
Primary Care, Citizens Medical Group, Los Angeles, California
June 1995 – May 2001
American College of Osteopathic, Neuropsychiatry Board Member
June 1993 – October 2001
American College of Osteopathic, Neuropsychiatry Board Examiner
***November 1995 – June 1996***
Child/Adolescent and Adult Psychiatry, Private Practice, ***Wilton, Connecticut***
July 1992 – October 1995
Child/Adolescent and Adult Psychiatry, Private Practice, Palm Springs, California
August 1992 – December 1994
Consultant, Barbara Sinatra Children’s Center, Rancho Mirage, California
August 1992 – December 1993
Clozaril Program Outpatient Coordinator, Riverside Community Mental Health Center, Indio, California
August 1992 – December 1992
Child/Adolescent Day Treatment Program, Medical Director, Canyon Springs Hospital, Cathedral City, California
...
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Wilton, Connecticut is a county less than 20 miles from Sandy Hook, Newtown.
Only town in the county is Georgetown, Ct.
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Anonymous1 June 2014 03:17

EDIT about Wilton, Connecticut.

Wilton is town located in center of Fairfield County, Connecticut. It's a half hour's drive to Sandy Hook.

http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2012/ ... sych-ward/

Mind control programming sights: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/socio ... dcon06.htm

[Iamwhomiam]

"You seem to ignore his mental illness limiting his ability to interact with most others, men and women.

No, actually I didn't "ignore it." But you know what, plenty of people with mental illness manage some level of interaction, and work on improving on it. This guy was in therapy for years. Guess those therapists couldn't detect anything about where he was headed?

jlaw, your reaction doesn't surprise me, though it does serve to enhance your character as I perceive it through your writings.

Your response leads me to believe you hadn't read my entire comment, which ended with this:

Someone who is incapable of social interactions due to the profound or subtle effects they suffer from having a mental illness can never develop any, regardless the environment, no matter how wonderfully they've been parented.

Your comment continues...

"Besides that, your reading comprehension is deplorable for one whose profession demands proficiency in interpreting the spoken and written word."

Again, another batch of insults. One thing you'll notice, I tend to not bother with making personal attacks. Tell me how my reading comprehension is terrible. Because I didn't draw the same conclusions as you?

You seem to be confusing my observation of and reaction to your written words as being insults, but that's not at all what was intended, though it is one reason I mentioned your apparently poor reading comprehension. Another reason for my pointing out this weakness of yours was meant to suggest that you to improve your reading skills and by doing so you would perhaps enhance your abilities as a lawyer and that could have a positive impact on your career. I say this as one who was responsible for the work of dozens of lawyers under my administration. But sadly, you see only insults.

A last reason was that it seems you missed reading my last comment before you commented. It's right above where I last quoted you, four paragraphs up.

You continue...

"Ignoring the rest of my comment serves to stifle discussion jlaw, wouldn't you agree?"

No, actually I wouldn't. There's no rule that says I have to write a response to everything some stranger writes on the internet; nobody responds to 90% of what I say in case, so I don't see why I should be held to some artificial standard that nobody else holds themselves to

It's difficult to understand your logic, but let me try...

You believe that our discussion, yours and mine, can continue, though you refuse for some bizarre reason to answer questions I've asked you, regardless of the fact that your responses would help me towards a better understanding of your viewpoint?

That I find hard to believe, really I do. You consider the well established etiquette for polite conversation to be some "artificial standard"?

Bizarre would be an understatement. Considered me completely stifled. I'm at a loss for for words adequate to explain how in my mind your character has just soared into fantasy land sane words are unable to describe. Thank you.
You're a trip well worth the price of admission!

Lastly, do you know what being a sociopath means?

Results of a study on male patients at a maximum-security forensic hospital suggested four potential subtypes of psychopathy: narcissistic, borderline, sadistic, and antisocial. The researchers have stated that additional data are needed to understand the observed variations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociopath#Sociopathy

[Nordic]

A couple of years ago I dated a woman with teenage children. They were pretty good kids - fun, quirky and very observant. Their Mum banned them from social media, but allowed them occasional fps games (I was amazed at how expensive they were... and how utterly incessant the boys were about HAVING to have not just the game but the 3-DVD extra Special Edition = a weeks wages for their Mum. When they spoke it was as though their very identity was threatened if they did not have it)

The effect? During the period they played this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9fSkcAYyZ8
consistently, for several hours after it, they became withdrawn, monosyllabic. The worst thing was their eyes - they went from their normal sparky/cheeky to a cold sullen 'lights on but no one is home'. During this period, their only interactions with each other seemed on the verge of instant violence.
Their 'energy' was vile - I didn't want to go within ten feet of them.

I think that fps video games are a common theme in these mass shooters. Also psych meds.

Having just watched my son literally get addicted to a first person shooter game, I have concluded that developing male minds should not be exposed to these things.

That shooter in Norway had that same issue. The Rodgers shooting reminds me a lot of Brevik.

Boys everywhere are getting addicted to first person shooter games. And I mean literally addicted. These games utterly take over their lives and they lose all interest in all other activities. Just like drugs. They grow more aggressive. And when (or if, in most cases because most parents just let them keep going) they scream like banshees and go through withdrawals.

It's fucked up.

If you're an adult and your mind is basically done developing, do what you want. But kids need to be ripped away from these things and get rehabbed. I'm not joking or exaggerating.

That's a particularly creepy one, Searcher08.

I decided long ago to never buy my son a game console so he wouldn't have these issues. But then he got a computer for his home schooling, and the next thing I knew he was playing this game called Total Team Fortress (or something like that, TTF) from a really scummy but hugely successful company called Steam. Online, no console necessary! He had been playing Minecraft, which is actually kind of a cool game where you build stuff, and he could spend hours doing that, but that seemed constructive and kinda cool, but the next thing I knew, while I thought he was playing Minecraft, he was actually playing the shooter game, and that's when things went downhill very fast for him.

I've seen people get addicted to drugs (not dependent, but addicted -- there's an enormous difference) and I've now seen him get addicted to this game, and they are very similar. To let a developing mind be subjected to this should give us pause.

Considering that a corporation will pay millions of dollars for 30 seconds of Superbowl time to air a commercial, to immerse a child's brain for hours and hours every day with this violent, adrenaline-pumping imagery MUST have a big affect. Especially on minds that might not be 100% perfect.

[jlaw172364]

@iamwhoiam

The problem with saying nasty things to someone in these exchanges is that it hijacks the discourse.

"Another reason for my pointing out this weakness of yours was meant to suggest that you to improve your reading skills and by doing so you would perhaps enhance your abilities as a lawyer and that could have a positive impact on your career. I say this as one who was responsible for the work of dozens of lawyers under my administration."

So, now you're reiterating that I have poor reading skills, you're saying my abilities are bad, and imply my career is suffering.

That's a lot of conclusions to draw. By

Then you write:

"You believe that our discussion, yours and mine, can continue, though you refuse for some bizarre reason to answer questions I've asked you, regardless of the fact that your responses would help me towards a better understanding of your viewpoint? "

At this point, I must question YOUR reading comprehension skills. I already stated why I don't respond to everything people write. It's because people don't respond to what I write. This isn't anything more than a bunch of strangers expressing viewpoints at their whim. Nobody is paying me to post here, and I'm under no obligation to expend mental energy scrupulously parsing through every bit of bloviation on here. I have better things to do with my time. If I have something to express, I express it and move on. Also, I don't really take issue with individuals, although I do take issue with what people write, what arguments they make, and what behaviors they engage in. I try to refrain from making personal attacks and saying nasty things. It's just a waste of time.

"You're a trip well worth the price of admission!"

What do you hope to accomplish by making that statement?

It's one thing to disagree on speculations concerning an individual nobody on here knows, has never met, with incomplete facts generated by a lazy, compromised, corrupt mass media, it's another thing to start hurling insults at people.

But anyway, I digress.

My main issue with what people were writing was that his murders were motivated by a misogyny that he learned from some blogs on the internet; people were suggesting that but for what was written on those blogs, he never would have gone a killing spree. I believe those statements to be intellectually dishonest and politically opportunistic. I gave my reasons why. I don't expect people to agree with me. I think that his act may have been shaped by possible inherent biological defects, being spoiled by his parents, falling to the bottom of the social pecking order because of the first two things, immersion in violent video-games for YEARS of his life further exacerbating the first three, which then fertilized his imagination with violent revenge fantasies, combined with sexual frustration at an age when the sex drive is at its highest. I don't know what he was doing in therapy for years. I imagine that he was intelligent enough to realize, suspect, or feat at some point that if he disclosed the full extent of what was going on in his mind, he would risk losing his freedom. All those therapy sessions could have just been him placating his parents; another chore to do, another hoop to jump through, for someone who perceives themselves to be in a powerless position. And then of course, there is the whole Manchurian Candidate angle, which I never rule out as a possibility.

[elfismiles]

Lies, webstats and the Isla Vista murders
or, why everything you think you know about Elliot Rodger is wrong

On Friday night, in the university town of Isla Vista, California, a wealthy young college student, a virgin frustrated because he had been repeatedly rejected by women who didn’t appreciate his polite “nice guy” persona, went on a murderous shooting spree that left seven dead, and ended in his suicide.

Maybe 30% of the sentence above this one is factual. The source for everything else: the written manifesto and videotaped justifications of a murderer.

The case of Elliot Rodger (or The Virgin Killer, in tabloid-ese) provides a startling glimpse at the frayed fabric of the American media, and how the internet is steering, and warping, the narrative of breaking news stories.

https://medium.com/true-crime/lies-webs ... 216baacf36

[jlaw172364]

Lies, webstats and the Isla Vista murders
or, why everything you think you know about Elliot Rodger is wrong

That was nothing more than clickbait.

[Hunter]

Yea I was looking for something good and it started out pretty good but just ended like a thud, there was nothing there at all LOL. I thought it was going to get in to some juicy details or something and it just...ended.

[tapitsbo]

The "mra movement" is totally under some weird, dark guidance. Isn't it? As a man I feel like this sort of mra type rhetoric makes my life a lot harder... just the fact that it is out there is insanely polarizing and fucked up, and makes it seem like more men think this way than actually do... the impact on especially young women who have to grow up with guys who ending up getting sucked up into this bullshit must be devastating

and "RI" thoughts on this? It bums me out

[Luther Blissett]

The "mra movement" is totally under some weird, dark guidance. Isn't it? As a man I feel like this sort of mra type rhetoric makes my life a lot harder... just the fact that it is out there is insanely polarizing and fucked up, and makes it seem like more men think this way than actually do... the impact on especially young women who have to grow up with guys who ending up getting sucked up into this bullshit must be devastating

and "RI" thoughts on this? It bums me out

I guess what had helped me was positioning my thoughts and feelings as far as possible to women's side (with the express intention to work harder to understand nonbinary genders as well) and to spend a lot more time in typically feminist spaces, attempting to be unobtrusive, just observing conversations and trying to empathize. I think it's helped me a lot.

I'm not sure I have any thoughts on the evil egregore though. My thoughts are more like this might just be like the "white man's last tantrum" or something. That society has been set up for us for a long time and this all-too-common reddit/fedora misogyny is a reflexive reaction to progress; to want to question it and act out against it. I imagine that it's always been this bad, and if anything was worse, but it was typically acceptable or conventional. Social differentiation (by both other men and by women) took care of the rest in a way that is impossible now given the current state of technology and economy. Current time is unique for any number of reasons and I sort of see mras as just another symptom of that.

[Luther Blissett]

RELEVANT TAKE DOWN

[tapitsbo]

i generally agree with what you're saying but i think there's an aspect to it that isn't "same old, same old".. same as how a lot of recently emergent far right stuff in general clearly isn't just some organic growth

[elfismiles]

Santa Barbara Horror Film Featuring College Killer Sparks Backlash

AUGUST 6, 2015 | 06:53PM PT
Alex Stedman
News Editor, Variety.com
@a_sted


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBF3jqeYjUo

Thousands have signed a petition against indie horror film “Del Playa,” asserting that the movie, featuring a college killer, too closely resembles the 2014 Isla Vista killings.

“Del Playa,” directed by Shaun Hart and produced by Berger Bros. Entertainment, follows a troubled college student who, after being turned down by girls and bullied by his peers, turns to violence. Just hours after the trailer for the film hit YouTube, protesters started a charge.org petition, demanding that “Del Playa” halt its release. It also proposed that filmmakers could change the name of the film and contribute to a memorial fund for the victims.

On May 24, 2013, Elliot Rodger, son of “Hunger Games” second unit assistant director Peter Rodger, killed six people and wounded 14 others in Isla Vista, near the U.C. Santa Barbara campus. Rodger then killed himself. All six murdered individuals were UCSB students.

The petition against “Del Playa” has received more than 17,000 signatures in under 24 hours.

READ MORE:
http://variety.com/2015/film/news/del-p ... 201558622/

[Twyla LaSarc]

Video games and movies.

I guess I was lucky. My kid pretty much eschewed the video games. Maybe it was because we wouldn't 'let' him watch transformers, pokemon, or the smurfs when he was little (and he comments all the time on how we made them seem uncool by pointing out their silliness and commerciality). He played Doom for awhile and His movie habit was sometimes annoying ( like having to repeatedly listen to the japanese version of Godzilla) and not alway kosher, but he still seems to have perspective on it. One's mileage may vary. Then again, he's now in the navy so he can enter college on his own terms ( as opposed to having to accept training funds for an 'in demand' field), so I suppose I ain't the best provider in the world and in the end couldn't afford fancy shit even for me so fuck the kids and video games. When I was young, we budding luddites made our own fun.

It sucks that there are other parents out there who have to deal with the addictive behaviour that is being cultivated by these franchises. I don't think desensitization is a one off like a movie, I think it has to be reinforced repeatedly (like getting US recruits to actually kill an enemy) and certain vid games are great venues to positively reward desired negative behavior before one ever reaches the system.

[slomo]

I'm just reading this thread for the first time and am noticing criticism of the "mra movement" from over a year ago. Has anybody actually read MRA material (as opposed to what anti-MRAs say about the MRM)? Because about 80% of it seems entirely reasonable to me. Most of what I have read focuses on concerns that the family court system is biased against men, and that there is no due process in the way sexual assault cases are handled in the university setting. I read a lot of testimony from men that seem like decent people who are pissed off that they can't see their kids as much as they would like, and from younger guys with seemingly good intentions who are worried that they'll end up in a star chamber.

You may or may not agree with the specific positions, but I don't view these concerns as insane or "under some weird, dark guidance". In fact, I would think that (e.g.) preservation of due process would be a central concern here at RI.

Note that MRM is distinct from other movements that tend to get confused with it. If you read the subreddit, most MRAs distance themselves from other subreddits (PUA, red pill) that do carry a darker vibe.

Before you dismiss MRAs as a bunch of wackos, I urge you to watch some of Karen Straughan's videos. She is a staunch MRA who seems pretty far from a browbeaten quiverfull wife.

[Luther Blissett]

I think that I acknowledge the relevant and legitimate family court concerns upthread. Culturally in 2015, and with younger people waiting longer and longer to have children, most of the concerns of pick-up artists, redpillers, fedoras or whatever, whether they connect themselves with men's rights activists implicitly, explicitly, or not at all, they and their sexism are far more widespread than activists for family court equality.

As a matter of fact, in the time since these killings, I haven't seen one discussion online of any traditional (for lack of a better term) men's right activism. But this gender-based hatred, the same kinds that connect Rodgers to a specific community, has only grown unabated, using the same terms that they were before Rodgers used them in his manifesto.