Horrorcore rapper faces murder charges.

[OP ED]

never bow for anyone.

i'm authorized to speak regarding Thelema. [required actually]

my opinion on Stephen King is only that though. I find his books personally kind of boring really.

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it would be fair to say that Crowley is generally perceived as being Satanic, despite this being the product of tabloids and right christian propaganda. thelema proper actually is a sort of christianity. but that is beyond the scope of this thread.

whereas Aquino self-identifies as a satanist sometimes, but even the other satanists don't like him and recognize his writings as being the products of either charlatanism or delusions of grandeur. i favor the former. ["worse" than a satanist]

[Percival]

Mea culpa, mea culpa I'll bow out to more educated minds.

Youre doing just fine, dont mind them at all.

[lightningBugout]

thelema proper actually is a sort of christianity. but that is beyond the scope of this thread.

I would love to see a thread on that.

[OP ED]

thelema proper actually is a sort of christianity. but that is beyond the scope of this thread.

I would love to see a thread on that.

i'm working on it actually. i already started the thread. heh.

[lightningBugout]

thelema proper actually is a sort of christianity. but that is beyond the scope of this thread.

I would love to see a thread on that.

i'm working on it actually. i already started the thread. heh.

Not to thread hijack so a pm would suffice (though this thread has covered lots) - have you read Jacques LaCarriere's essay, the Gnostics? Have I already asked you this? Wonder your thoughts on it as it related to Thelema.

[Percival]

Another neat little picture I dug up from Sicktanicks myspace, Sam the killer is on the right:

[Percival]

Speaking only to WAVY.com, Rimer says what magnified the terrifying scene was where investigators found the bodies of husband and wife Debra Kelley and Mark Neiderbrock, their teenage daughter Emma, and her friend, Melanie Wells. Strange symbols were also found in the home.

"They were satanic in nature," said Rimer.

Dont know what that means, WHERE they found the bodies, hmmm.

[Percival]

I am now in contact with another horrorcore insider and this is the comment he sent me, no further details yet but more to come...

Shrim=Sicktanick

yes i am an artist (also a former dj on killmusick radio) i also am a former close associate of mr shrim ive done shows with him been featured on the same songs and even stayed at his house i also know the victims and the alleged murderer it seems like a lot of this case is being glossed over by mr shrim as he says one thing in the media but whats being said in the horrorcore community is a different story id love to answer any questions you have and be as helpful as i can on this matter

[SonicG]

Thanks for that dialog Percival although Sic. does seem to be a bit disingenuous when he talks about morality on the one hand and then claims to being a hardcore chaos magician. Chaos magic emphasizes that there is no single morality and that the ends do certainly justify the means. Although I agree on some level but also that the Golden Rule is golden for a reason. I'd argue that even Crowley's "Do what thou wilt..." is based on that same principle to some degree. OP ED: where is your thread??

vis. the "satanic symbols": that Rimer seems like a self-promoting jackass but it is possible that Sam snapped completely and since he had some actual, real dead bodies and thought he would do something "cool". I doubt he had any clue of any ceremonial magic of any type. Either way, it didn't work too well since it is going to lead him to the grave himself. Latest leak on the autopsy is that the three women were killed in their sleep.

[Percival]

Thanks for that dialog Percival although Sic. does seem to be a bit disingenuous when he talks about morality on the one hand and then claims to being a hardcore chaos magician. Chaos magic emphasizes that there is no single morality and that the ends do certainly justify the means. Although I agree on some level but also that the Golden Rule is golden for a reason. I'd argue that even Crowley's "Do what thou wilt..." is based on that same principle to some degree. OP ED: where is your thread??

vis. the "satanic symbols": that Rimer seems like a self-promoting jackass but it is possible that Sam snapped completely and since he had some actual, real dead bodies and thought he would do something "cool". I doubt he had any clue of any ceremonial magic of any type. Either way, it didn't work too well since it is going to lead him to the grave himself. Latest leak on the autopsy is that the three women were killed in their sleep.

Yes he says one thing and does another. I havent called him on that yet because I want to keep talking, but I will sooner or later.

THANKS for the leak info I had not heard that! Keep it comin.

[Zap]

Another neat little picture I dug up from Sicktanicks myspace, Sam the killer is on the right:

Really? I thought he was more red-headed.

[SonicG]

Yes he says one thing and does another. I havent called him on that yet because I want to keep talking, but I will sooner or later.

THANKS for the leak info I had not heard that! Keep it comin.

Right, I thought that might be the case...I have a feeling he thinks he needs to milk the current notoriety.

The info. came from the websleuths page which I don't know how much to trust it but they sure have dug out all the various myspace pages...

[Percival]

ME:

Can you see what I am having a problem with though?

When I see someone rapping "I am a real killer like Euronymous." Isnt that disrespectful to those who died because of Euronymous? Would you take issue with some rapper who used the lyric "I am a real killer like Syko Sam"?

I imagine you might.

I just hate double standards thats all.

HIM:

Yes i understand why you think this may be a double standard, but only because these people were friends to a lot of us here at SKR. If people here had know the people killed by Euronymous, i am sure they would find a problem with it. we were very familiar with the deceased and knew and loved them. I am sure you would find Horrorcore rappers who rap about Syko Sam but the reason it is not allowed here is because here they were considered friends and family, Ther already IS a horrorcore rapper who has said "i am a real killer like Syko Sam" and dedicated an album to him. Here, that was hated upon and scolded at SKR.

This is not a double standard of the genre, but a decision by the friends of the victim to keep him off limits, because thats what they were to a lot of the people here. FRIENDS

This is not a double standard of the genre as a whole, but different opinions of individuals in the genre. There are people who find it offensive, as well as people who dont. It just happens that the majority HERE at SKR does find it offensive. If somebody finds something offensive, it is their choice to make music about it, or listen to it. Here, not condoning music made referring to Sam is our choice.

[Percival]

Another neat little picture I dug up from Sicktanicks myspace, Sam the killer is on the right:

Really? I thought he was more red-headed.

It was on one of the myspace pages and the caption said LilDemonDog on the right and that is Sam's handle. I did wonder about the red hair also because he did seem to have a reddish tint. Dont know.

[Percival]

Yes he says one thing and does another. I havent called him on that yet because I want to keep talking, but I will sooner or later.

THANKS for the leak info I had not heard that! Keep it comin.

Right, I thought that might be the case...I have a feeling he thinks he needs to milk the current notoriety.

The info. came from the websleuths page which I don't know how much to trust it but they sure have dug out all the various myspace pages...

Websleuths are on the ball on this, pretty good stuff over there, I am only on page 20 of that thread so I havent gotten to the most current info/leaks yet. There were some folks posting on that thread who knew some of the victims and lived in the area.