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Re: What's Happening? It?

Postby vondardanelle » Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:37 pm

FourthBase » Thu Nov 17, 2016 9:50 pm wrote:
vondardanelle » 17 Nov 2016 20:51 wrote:my band played at Comet Ping Pong last year and for what it's worth (probably not much), I thought i'd share my thoughts on the venue/restaurant outside of anything that may be happening there or around there.

our booking agent set the show up and I didn't interact with any staff other than the person who gave the bands dinner (pizza, obviously, and beers). they were nice enough. it was a fairly typical bar-type restaurant. located in a strip mall type thing. bar with booths and seating in the front, some booths towards the back and space for two ping pong tables. in the absolute back of the place was a large-ish room or maybe small warehouse space (it had a high ceiling, or the floor was lower in the back than in the bar) which was the "backstage" area where bands could hang out and keep their equipment between sets. they also put the ping pong tables here when the show started and assorted other pieces of restaurant ephemera were stored back here. when we arrived, which was around 6pm or so, the crowd was a bit of a mix-- young couples, older folks, a few families. i was playing ping pong next to a family with young kids playing on the table next to me. around 8-9 or so the place switched into "venue mode" where the back area with the booths was cleared of people eating and the bands set up. i dont think there was a stage, maybe a small 1 foot elevation where the band set up. but the audience was right on top you, which is very punk-show. (btw, my band and the other band on the bill are best described as indie rock and alot of the bands that go through comet ping pong are the same, but that back room had the feel of a punk venue for sure. mostly because "punk venue" often means anywhere that people and a band can fit in the same space). definitely struck me a place that was not built as a venue but as a bar, but they figured they could throw bands in a space to maybe bring in a different crowd and make more money. sound was not great at all (and no sound check), i think they only mic-ed the kick drum and then vocal mics. not ideal from the perspective of sounding good as a band, but always fun to play a show like this now and again. keeps you honest and it's alot like everyone-- the band, the fans-- are just hanging out with each other.

so yeah, i don't remember seeing anything really creepy or strange but i wasn't looking for anything like that. after touring in bands for over a decade and playing in hundreds of places across america, comet ping pong struck me as a slightly above average place to play a show, overall. nowhere near the worst place i've ever played and nowhere near the best. easy load in with plenty of parking around the back. well below average in terms of sound and stage, but they were good to the bands and it was a fun environment in that it was so intimate. also i love ping pong and being able to play ping pong in the hours between load in and the show (usually incredibly tedious sitting around) was a plus. pizza was nothing special. good crowd and a good time for sure. if i lived near that place i would probably go in there once in a while to play ping pong and have some beers with friends, but it was really nothing special.


Alright. Have you read the article right above you? Did you see any paintings or posters that weren't child-appropriate? What was your opinion of the bathrooms being in that false wooden wall or whatever? Lastly, how long have you known Luther?



skimmed that article and missed the comet ping pong parts. i vaguely recall that artwork, it definitely didn't register as sinister. penis graffiti is probably present in 98% of venues i have ever played in. it's posibl;e the drummer in my band drew that as he often draws things like that on walls of these places. i also did not spend much time in the front part of the restaurant, which was bigger. it's a little strange to me to hear it's popular with "liberal 20-somethings in kahkis". it wasn't a full-on "dive", but it wasn't really that nice either. closer to dive i'd say, certainly the back area where the bands played. the backstage/storage room was fairly clean and seemed functional.

the bathrooms also did not strike me as sinister. i definitely remember that fake wall (it was more of a "divider" maybe? kind of like a japanese screen but attached to the floor in spots and the wall, and i think to the ceiling as well, with an opening so people can get to the bathrooms) and in the context of the scene it makes sense. the bathrooms were just across from several booths in the room where bands played. maybe 6 feet from the doors (there were 2, single person bathrooms) to the booth if you were eating in one of those booths you would likely have to watch people come and go from those bathrooms (and probably get some smells from the bathrooms as well) and i can see how the fake wall made sense. it created privacy for both bathroom go-ers and the people sitting in the booths. once the place was full of people for the shows, the bathrooms and that wall were a real pain. the wall comes out into the room, making the space smaller, and the line for the bathrooms was difficult to differentiate from the rest of the crowd. i am thinking that the bathrooms were also covered in graffiti but i could be misremembering that. most venue bathrooms are covered. really, my impression of the back room and the storage area was that it was fairly typical of alot of venues i've played in over the years.

i do not know Luther but i am originally from Philly (haven't lived there for 7+ years). from lurking here for many years and seeing Luther's posts, i feel it's likely we know some of the same people, and maybe i actually do know Luther but don't realize it? i once went on a national tour with Bruce Dazzling and didn't know it until years later. at any rate, i love west philly and miss it, and i appreciate his references to it now and again, as well as general updates as to what's going on back in greater philly.
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Re: What's Happening? It?

Postby FourthBase » Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:42 pm

skimmed that article and missed the comet ping pong parts.


Here's some advice:
Don't ever skim articles.

Don't skim the Reddit summary above, either.
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Re: What's Happening? It?

Postby vondardanelle » Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:48 pm

FourthBase » Thu Nov 17, 2016 10:42 pm wrote:
skimmed that article and missed the comet ping pong parts.


Here's some advice:
Don't ever skim articles.

Don't skim the Reddit summary above, either.



thanks. i'll just add-- i am not commenting on the veracity of likelihood of anything described in those articles/threads-- just providing my impressions of the 6-7 hours i spent in comet ping pong last year. without any malice at all i invite everyone to take it or leave it as they like.
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Re: What's Happening? It?

Postby dada » Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:13 am

So a certain percentage of the public needs to be made aware, which means I should go post on social media. And how do the uncorrupt NY cops know we've reached internet awareness critical mass.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for protecting children. If the trolls save the day, good on them. I'll still be at war with them. I don't like trolls.

And so now if I don't help out, the world will see that progressive liberals are guilty by association, because they didn't do anything when it counted. And also, 'don't let the trolls get one over on you.'

This all seems a bit odd to me. 'Don't let the trolls get one over on you' is what my spidey-sense is telling me is the important part, here. For me, in my opinion.

Not looking to get into an argument, just sharing the point of view from my reality tunnel.
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Re: What's Happening? It?

Postby tapitsbo » Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:19 am

"Tunnel"... "troll"...

tunnels go under bridges...

aha!

In all honesty this is a bit more complex than just "bringing perps to justice"... this case potentially troubles all sorts of ways many people are used to thinking - I am incredibly interested by the interesting reactions to it
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Re: What's Happening? It?

Postby dada » Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:36 am

tapitsbo » Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:19 pm wrote:"Tunnel"... "troll"...

tunnels go under bridges...

aha!

In all honesty this is a bit more complex than just "bringing perps to justice"... this case potentially troubles all sorts of ways many people are used to thinking - I am incredibly interested by the interesting reactions to it


Yeah, it gets me posting on this thread, I'll give it that.

Did I mention I don't like trolls? haha
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Re: What's Happening? It?

Postby FourthBase » Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:48 am

tapitsbo » 17 Nov 2016 23:19 wrote:"Tunnel"... "troll"...

tunnels go under bridges...

aha!

In all honesty this is a bit more complex than just "bringing perps to justice"... this case potentially troubles all sorts of ways many people are used to thinking - I am incredibly interested by the interesting reactions to it


Correct. Way more involved that just prosecuting perps. But that still has to be done, and it will be done. The genie has escaped the bottle for good. It will, yes, essentially initiate a world revolution. You folks like that concept, tho, right? Well, you will have your wish, except that it won't exactly be the revolution of your dreams. It will be a revolution, though, and it will probably result in either 1) the total end of the world or 2) the onset of an epoch relatively exorcized of such evil, more or less. I have never, ever, ever been the kind of person to accept a fate like The End of the World. Nevar!! But if refusing to allow these ghouls to prey on children is what ends the world, if our continued existence depends on indefinitely letting them kidnap, rape, torture, murder, and eat children? Then fuck it, FUCK THAT, this world would not deserve to exist, and I'd approach reality as if there really were the kind of God who'd put humanity to the kind of grand, sadistic test fundies believe in where we can either choose to do the self-preserving thing or the right thing, with the latter being the only correct answer, after which the people who did everything they could might get rewarded with afterlife perks from the Almighty God/ET/AI/whatever, and the former being indistinguishable from a living, breathing, permanent Hell on earth.
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Re: What's Happening? It?

Postby tapitsbo » Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:56 am

Nobody's going to get to the absolute bottom of this (what sorts of forces are behind what PW hinted at in this thread?), but prying the lid off a touch will initiate major changes.

Just the spreading awareness of how compromised the institutions that are supposed to help... that's a big change
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Re: What's Happening? It?

Postby FourthBase » Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:08 am

tapitsbo » 17 Nov 2016 23:56 wrote:Nobody's going to get to the absolute bottom of this (what sorts of forces are behind what PW hinted at in this thread?), but prying the lid off a touch will initiate major changes.

Just the spreading awareness of how compromised the institutions that are supposed to help... that's a big change


I think you're wrong. The lid is already off, dude. Ain't going back on, either, ever again. It's just that few -- yet, so far -- are willing to look into the Bucket of Truth. Because unlike the UCB version, the real life Bucket of Truth is also the Bucket of Responsibility and the action it compels in the seer isn't ecstatic dancing but painful conversing.

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Re: What's Happening? It?

Postby tapitsbo » Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:13 am

It is painful because we're staring into something so primeval. I definitely agree that we haven't seen the end of this case.

It is painful for me to consider how the savile and epstein cases ended up as they did...
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Re: What's Happening? It?

Postby 8bitagent » Fri Nov 18, 2016 2:17 am

Could it be...that Comet Ping Pong is the Mcmartin preschool hysteria for the late 2010's reddit age?
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Re: What's Happening? It?

Postby MayDay » Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:31 am

I don't want to get involved in this too deeply, but I just watched a horrifying video on YouTube posted by "the apes" band that plays regularly at cpp, and is mentioned in the "street cred" section of their website. It's from 2007. Contains violent, shocking near-subliminals of sexual torture. Really sick shit, I wish I could unwatch it. I'm not posting the link. There are dozens of images in rapid 1-frame per millisecond succession, and you probably won't catch it all on the first view. I don't recommend watching it. There is now no doubt in my mind what's going on, at least in regard to "the apes". The "track" is called Apes- the Neutered Noel. Trigger warning (edited for spelling mistake)
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Re: What's Happening? It?

Postby Novem5er » Fri Nov 18, 2016 7:28 am

FourthBase » Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:33 pm wrote:
To Fourthbase, I'm really not sure what everyone is supposed to DO about this, especially the Progressive Left. Is the end goal to make this story so famous that authorities can't help but ignore it? Has anyone even called the authorities yet? I'm not being a dick, I'm just genuinely curious (and confused) about what the "next step" is supposed to be.


Yes. That is the goal. Take back the term "redpill" from the right and redpill the shit out of everyone you know about this.

Anons have probably bombarded every conceivable agency by now. The thing is. I think there are uncorrupted FBI and NYPD who already knew, who probably helped the anons with breadcrumbs along the way. And they are apparently being stifled by corrupted FBI and/or NYPD as well as the rest of the entire executive branch and national security apparatus. I think the "True Pundit" and Kushner's Observer articles are not the fake junk they seem to be, but are actual reports from the inside. So, the situation as I see it until January 20 is that these uncorrupted ones could, if they wanted, call a sudden press conference to expose it all. But that wouldn't happen unless and until a certain percentage of the public is redpilled or semi-redpilled. Inoculation theory, but for a very good cause and also in order to protect their lives and careers. That's my take. Sorry, but I have no desire to let this evil shit continue for another two months. That's two months of children being victimized. And then the disclosure-and-justice-seeking will all belong to the right. The hell with that. Here is the only moral option, per my POV: Save children now. And keep the right from monopolizing the highest moral ground of all time in two months.


It's a noble goal, but a difficult one to achieve for what really should be a simple solution. Any detective in D.C. could bring this to a judge and get a warrant. Same with any FBI agent or other federal investigative branch. A warrant gets you access to hidden places, to laptops, and other forensic evidence. Now, if they are going after multiple suspects simultaneously, then it can take a little longer because they will wait until all suspects have search warrants issued, and then they will want to execute those warrants simultaneously. It's pretty standard stuff.

I guess the trick is getting a prosecutor, detective, or judge to actually agree there is enough there to issue a search warrant.

As far as spreading the message to the public, that's easily done, but even here at RI the reception is mixed. Personally, I'm seeing a lot of creepiness, but no smoking guns. By all means, people should keep digging. Who knows what they will find in email meta-data or an encrypted video hidden in plain sight. There just need to be more for enough of the American public to take their pitchforks down off the mantel and march towards Washington.

Especially when they are knowingly following trolls down the road.
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Re: What's Happening? It?

Postby divideandconquer » Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:11 am

I don't think the authorities will do a damned thing. It's a matter of getting the public to recognize it for what it is. and sadly, I don't think that's going to happen. The majority of the public does not have the background or the context to properly judge what's really going on. To most, it appears like pattern recognition run amok, like right-wingers making batshit mountains out of minuscule molehills in order to smear the left. That's the response I get when I tell my family. I get the Really? look as if I'm batshit crazy myself for even mentioning it. When I try to tell them about the Franklin scandal, Presidio, etc, I get questions like, Why are you the only one who seems to know anything about this? Why didn't the mainstream report on it? Do you believe everything the Internet tells you?
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Re: What's Happening? It?

Postby MayDay » Fri Nov 18, 2016 11:35 am

I gave you a smoking gun in the Apes video. The Neutered Noel. It's not for the weak of heart. Images of kids dressed up in pizza suits interspersed with images of torture and sexual violence.

This is bigger than mankind. Spiritual forces are indeed active behind the scenes. They aren't even necessarily demonic, at least not in my understanding of what demonic is. They are of the earth. Old, wild, utterly non-human. They show up in mythology as faeries and other entities. One of the courts, what would be referred to as summer court in human mythology, is behind what many refer to as the illuminati, or the western cabal. They want to enslave humanity, and it wouldn't be the first time they've done so. They revel in every excess, lust, greed, envy, pleasure, pain, it's all taken to extremes. They play with us through the humans they control. Their ultimate goal is to break down the barriers between our field of perception and their realm.

There are all sorts of faeries/ spirits/ entities coexisting with us. The vast majority of them mean us no harm. This isn't about God and the Devil, although they do use 'satanic' imagery when it suits their purposes, such as causing vast swaths of the populace to dismiss the very notion that something is amiss. The right wing christians attempting to expose this don't realize the damage they are doing by injecting their belief system into the dialogue. All that will do is turn reasonable, intelligent, non-religious people off to further inquiry.
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