What is #Pizzagate?

[Elvis]

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[Joe Hillshoist]

It's for the agreements we are supposed to maintain here at Rigorous Intuition: against racist/fascist organizing, promoting hatred of oppressed groups, etc. (I don't suppose anyone here has a problem with any of that, or at least admit so). Also for "No Nazi" policies in pirate radio and other alternative media, etc.

Speaking of sub-cultural incubators of Trojan licentious transgressivity ....

Jimmy Savile's crimes are rooted in pirate radio
John Peel was allowed to run a 'schoolgirl of the year' competition on his late night show

Five years ago, Richard Curtis made a film called The Boat That Rocked about the pirate radio stations that broadcast pop music to the UK in the 1960s from ships moored offshore. Unusually for Curtis, the film was a box-office flop despite an ensemble cast which included Philip Seymour Hoffman, Bill Nighy and Rhys Ifans. At the time I thought the project was wrong-headed, presenting an uncritical view of a pop culture which was sexually predatory and fuelled by testosterone. Against the background of the latest revelations about Jimmy Savile, its infatuation with the sexual antics of 1960s DJs is even harder to comprehend.

After last week's shocking reports, commentators are asking how on earth Savile gained access to vulnerable patients in a series of National Health Service hospitals. The naivety of hospital bosses in allowing this creepy narcissist to roam their corridors unchecked is breathtaking, but it is a story which goes back to the beginning of celebrity culture in the 1960s. Savile's only "qualification" to work in the NHS was the fame suddenly attaching to DJs who had access to the biggest names in pop music. He first worked for the BBC in 1964, when he presented the very first edition of Top of the Pops; footage from 1976 shows him committing a brazen assault on a young female member of the ToTP audience while they were on camera.

The BBC's bemused involvement with pop culture accelerated in 1967 when the Labour government closed down pirate radio and demanded the corporation set up Radio 1 to fill the gap. This was the moment when the BBC, which had previously been sniffy about pop music, embraced a phenomenon it had neither anticipated nor understood. Savile did not work on offshore pirate stations, coming to Radio 1 a year later from Radio Luxembourg, but many of the DJs who launched the new BBC station did.

In this all-male environment – there were no women among them until Annie Nightingale joined in 1970 – sexist attitudes were commonplace, which the BBC did nothing to challenge. It even allowed John Peel, who arrived at Radio 1 from pirate station Radio London, to run a "schoolgirl of the year" competition on his late-night show.

Did the BBC know nothing about the predatory atmosphere on the ships where so many of its new stars had been employed? Here is former Radio 1 DJ Johnnie Walker describing how women were treated on Radio Caroline, widely believed to have been the model used for The Boat That Rocked: "So girls used to come to the ship and we'd tie their boat alongside and we used to get the engineer to take their boyfriends to look round the transmitters … and we'd take them downstairs to the cabins." Peel put his finger on the BBC's failure to think about what it might be importing when he recalled how he got his own job: "I was one of the first lot on Radio 1 and I think it was mainly because … Radio 1 had no real idea what they were doing so they had to take people off the pirate ships."

If Peel were still alive, it is hard to believe that he would not be a person of interest to Operation Yewtree, the police investigation into Savile and others. In 1965, when he was in his late twenties and working on a radio station in Dallas, Peel married a 15-year-old girl; the marriage was legal in Texas but would have broken the law in other American states. Later, he boasted in interviews about teenage girls in the US queuing to offer sex to their favourite DJs, making the distasteful claim that one of his "regulars" was just 13. Shortly after the Savile scandal broke, a British woman claimed that she became pregnant by Peel in 1969 at the age of 15 after having sex with him in his BBC studio.

Others of Peel's former colleagues at Radio 1 have attracted the attention of Operation Yewtree. One of the station's original DJs, who cannot be named for legal reasons, was convicted years ago, and suspicion continues to hang over others, who again cannot be named for legal reasons. This is not to make presumptions about the guilt or innocence of individuals in any trial that may yet take place. It is about an abrupt cultural shift in the 1960s, when the rules governing sexual conduct were relaxed in a way which gave unparalleled licence to well-known men. Feminists have understood this for years: under-age sex was just as much a criminal offence in 1968, when the Rolling Stones fantasised about having sex with a 15-year-old girl in "Stray Cat Blues", as it is in 2014.

For a time, however, one stuffy British institution after another fell under the spell of men who had made their names in the brash new entertainment industry. It all began at the BBC, which opened doors elsewhere – hospitals, the police, even Downing Street – for Savile. This weekend his offending in the NHS is rightly in the spotlight, but the corporation bears a heavy responsibility for the monster it created.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/com ... 70462.html

My missus runs a facebook site named in memory of John Peel. Its hard to not constantly remind her what a shit he was. But he did great things for underappreciated music. Dunno if that absolves him tho.

Personally I think not.

[OP ED]

We tell dead baby jokes at work.

What's red and gets smaller?

Dunno.

I'm just saying that having a rough sense of humor isn't evidence of anything. On seven mile we have tradition of trying to offend as many people as possible in one go. Jokes that invoke multiple biases are most effective. I.e. A Priest and a Rabbi walk out of a bar, see a little boy riding toward them on his bicycle.
Priest: "wanna fuck him?"
Rabbi: "outta what?"

Etc etc

I actually don't see a lot of child sexualization in the CPP digital footprint.

Personal opinion, working theory, is that #pg is the magician's hand, but not the one you're supposed to be watching.

Being used to effectively communicate that the Podesta emails are irrelevant to the general public. As to its effect on the prospects for survivors time will tell. I don't personally think discussion of it in places like this is particularly relevant to anyone but us. This #fn bullshit was likely arranged well in advance to overlap with the psyop.

Not that I can say 100% that JA, Brock etc, aren't doing whatever, I just find analysis of random rock bands to be extremely wasteful at best. Little or none of this footprint is suggestive of anything more than the obsessions of beholders.

[Joe Hillshoist]

why the rush to turn the "light" out everywhere though?

expand the light by all means?

The light was already expanding, pizzagate killed the switch on half the breakers.

Maybe. If so, why?

The light was pretty dim insofar as we already knew about the "happy family" of Epstein/Trump/Clinton.

Imo because people buy into the thought-stopping techniques used to scupper pizzagate.

Time to expand the light to those.

I do realize you disagree.

I just think, hey there are already tons of real survivors with real stories, and those perpetrators and abusers and networks are still alive, out there, and in some cases still operating.

Project Willow's recent post that outlined real steps and efforts that could be taken for real survivors keeps coming back to me. This idea of creating safe houses since there are none especially. All of that advice should probably also go into the "nonviolent tactics" thread.

Once, many years ago i helped a someone escape one of those networks. We had "safe houses" well one real safe house but we were also armed (not easy in Australia). Non violence isn't necessarily an option when you are dealing with violent thugs from organised crime networks.

[Plutonia]

My missus runs a facebook site named in memory of John Peel. Its hard to not constantly remind her what a shit he was. But he did great things for underappreciated music. Dunno if that absolves him tho.

Personally I think not.

[slomo]

Personal opinion, working theory, is that #pg is the magician's hand, but not the one you're supposed to be watching.

Being used to effectively communicate that the Podesta emails are irrelevant to the general public. As to its effect on the prospects for survivors time will tell. I don't personally think discussion of it in places like this is particularly relevant to anyone but us. This #fn bullshit was likely arranged well in advance to overlap with the psyop.

I'm interested in hearing more details about this hypothesis. It rings true enough that my curiosity is piqued.

[Burnt Hill]

why the rush to turn the "light" out everywhere though?

expand the light by all means?

Indeed, shine it all around.
Sunlight is a great disinfectant.

[American Dream]

I just saw your post now and yes, Radio Caroline should be- a subject of deep political interest on many different levels. Definitely I recall something about a wiretapping specialist who had worked in Saudi Arabia being onboard, also of course shady drug players of the "hippie mafia" sort, and other such stuff that might possibly kind of/sort of support the thesis of some sort of social engineering agenda in the mix. That topic though, is worthy of its own thread!

The pirate radio that I was referring to though is more based in the U.S. from the 90's on in places like Berkeley, Santa Cruz, Springfield Illinois, etc., and the problems faced are more along the lines of being incredibly tiny but thinking that you are bringing a major media revolution, or something.

It's for the agreements we are supposed to maintain here at Rigorous Intuition: against racist/fascist organizing, promoting hatred of oppressed groups, etc. (I don't suppose anyone here has a problem with any of that, or at least admit so). Also for "No Nazi" policies in pirate radio and other alternative media, etc.

Speaking of sub-cultural incubators of Trojan licentious transgressivity ....

Jimmy Savile's crimes are rooted in pirate radio
John Peel was allowed to run a 'schoolgirl of the year' competition on his late night show

Five years ago, Richard Curtis made a film called The Boat That Rocked about the pirate radio stations that broadcast pop music to the UK in the 1960s from ships moored offshore. Unusually for Curtis, the film was a box-office flop despite an ensemble cast which included Philip Seymour Hoffman, Bill Nighy and Rhys Ifans. At the time I thought the project was wrong-headed, presenting an uncritical view of a pop culture which was sexually predatory and fuelled by testosterone. Against the background of the latest revelations about Jimmy Savile, its infatuation with the sexual antics of 1960s DJs is even harder to comprehend.

After last week's shocking reports, commentators are asking how on earth Savile gained access to vulnerable patients in a series of National Health Service hospitals. The naivety of hospital bosses in allowing this creepy narcissist to roam their corridors unchecked is breathtaking, but it is a story which goes back to the beginning of celebrity culture in the 1960s. Savile's only "qualification" to work in the NHS was the fame suddenly attaching to DJs who had access to the biggest names in pop music. He first worked for the BBC in 1964, when he presented the very first edition of Top of the Pops; footage from 1976 shows him committing a brazen assault on a young female member of the ToTP audience while they were on camera.

The BBC's bemused involvement with pop culture accelerated in 1967 when the Labour government closed down pirate radio and demanded the corporation set up Radio 1 to fill the gap. This was the moment when the BBC, which had previously been sniffy about pop music, embraced a phenomenon it had neither anticipated nor understood. Savile did not work on offshore pirate stations, coming to Radio 1 a year later from Radio Luxembourg, but many of the DJs who launched the new BBC station did.

In this all-male environment – there were no women among them until Annie Nightingale joined in 1970 – sexist attitudes were commonplace, which the BBC did nothing to challenge. It even allowed John Peel, who arrived at Radio 1 from pirate station Radio London, to run a "schoolgirl of the year" competition on his late-night show.

Did the BBC know nothing about the predatory atmosphere on the ships where so many of its new stars had been employed? Here is former Radio 1 DJ Johnnie Walker describing how women were treated on Radio Caroline, widely believed to have been the model used for The Boat That Rocked: "So girls used to come to the ship and we'd tie their boat alongside and we used to get the engineer to take their boyfriends to look round the transmitters … and we'd take them downstairs to the cabins." Peel put his finger on the BBC's failure to think about what it might be importing when he recalled how he got his own job: "I was one of the first lot on Radio 1 and I think it was mainly because … Radio 1 had no real idea what they were doing so they had to take people off the pirate ships."

If Peel were still alive, it is hard to believe that he would not be a person of interest to Operation Yewtree, the police investigation into Savile and others. In 1965, when he was in his late twenties and working on a radio station in Dallas, Peel married a 15-year-old girl; the marriage was legal in Texas but would have broken the law in other American states. Later, he boasted in interviews about teenage girls in the US queuing to offer sex to their favourite DJs, making the distasteful claim that one of his "regulars" was just 13. Shortly after the Savile scandal broke, a British woman claimed that she became pregnant by Peel in 1969 at the age of 15 after having sex with him in his BBC studio.

Others of Peel's former colleagues at Radio 1 have attracted the attention of Operation Yewtree. One of the station's original DJs, who cannot be named for legal reasons, was convicted years ago, and suspicion continues to hang over others, who again cannot be named for legal reasons. This is not to make presumptions about the guilt or innocence of individuals in any trial that may yet take place. It is about an abrupt cultural shift in the 1960s, when the rules governing sexual conduct were relaxed in a way which gave unparalleled licence to well-known men. Feminists have understood this for years: under-age sex was just as much a criminal offence in 1968, when the Rolling Stones fantasised about having sex with a 15-year-old girl in "Stray Cat Blues", as it is in 2014.

For a time, however, one stuffy British institution after another fell under the spell of men who had made their names in the brash new entertainment industry. It all began at the BBC, which opened doors elsewhere – hospitals, the police, even Downing Street – for Savile. This weekend his offending in the NHS is rightly in the spotlight, but the corporation bears a heavy responsibility for the monster it created.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/com ... 70462.html

[Joe Hillshoist]

We tell dead baby jokes at work.

What's red and gets smaller?

Dunno.

I'm just saying that having a rough sense of humor isn't evidence of anything. On seven mile we have tradition of trying to offend as many people as possible in one go. Jokes that invoke multiple biases are most effective. I.e. A Priest and a Rabbi walk out of a bar, see a little boy riding toward them on his bicycle.
Priest: "wanna fuck him?"
Rabbi: "outta what?"

Etc etc

The original answer was a baby combing its hair with a potato peeler.

I hadn't thought of that joke since primary school, but you know what. Its onto something. My youngest is at the point where she could conceivably access the potato peeler if it fell off its spot on the kitchen bench onto a container below it.

They should tell that joke at ante natal classes. It gets straight to the point.

Sometimes a rough sense of humour is all you have to get thru a hard life or terrible event. We (bushfire fighters in Oz) refer to burnt bodies as crispies and make jokes about them sometimes. Its easier than thinking about the reality, especially if its kids in a car accident. None of us would set fire to a child or an adult for that matter (the idea is unthinkable) and most would have cried till they slept during the nights after finding something like that. Or drank till we passed out/didn't see stuff when we closed our eyes.

(Someone told me once, when the M&M movie came out that the real hard place was 7 Mile rd not 8 mile. Is that where you live?)

[Joe Hillshoist]

My missus runs a facebook site named in memory of John Peel. Its hard to not constantly remind her what a shit he was. But he did great things for underappreciated music. Dunno if that absolves him tho.

Personally I think not.

I know.

What do you do tho - burn my peel sessions cds? I'm not gonna do that. Some of that music kept me going when i was young and fucked up.

[Plutonia]

My missus runs a facebook site named in memory of John Peel. Its hard to not constantly remind her what a shit he was. But he did great things for underappreciated music. Dunno if that absolves him tho.

Personally I think not.

I know.

What do you do tho - burn my peel sessions cds? I'm not gonna do that. Some of that music kept me going when i was young and fucked up.

Serious question Joe: What are you valuing?

[Joe Hillshoist]

The music made by people who he got into his studio.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Peel_sessions

And that is not even exhaustive.

If they are all tainted by association with him then everyone and everything is by similar association with something and we may as well top ourselves now and get it over with.

[barracuda]

[OP ED]

We tell dead baby jokes at work.

What's red and gets smaller?

Dunno.

I'm just saying that having a rough sense of humor isn't evidence of anything. On seven mile we have tradition of trying to offend as many people as possible in one go. Jokes that invoke multiple biases are most effective. I.e. A Priest and a Rabbi walk out of a bar, see a little boy riding toward them on his bicycle.
Priest: "wanna fuck him?"
Rabbi: "outta what?"

Etc etc

The original answer was a baby combing its hair with a potato peeler.

I hadn't thought of that joke since primary school, but you know what. Its onto something. My youngest is at the point where she could conceivably access the potato peeler if it fell off its spot on the kitchen bench onto a container below it.

They should tell that joke at ante natal classes. It gets straight to the point.

Sometimes a rough sense of humour is all you have to get thru a hard life or terrible event. We (bushfire fighters in Oz) refer to burnt bodies as crispies and make jokes about them sometimes. Its easier than thinking about the reality, especially if its kids in a car accident. None of us would set fire to a child or an adult for that matter (the idea is unthinkable) and most would have cried till they slept during the nights after finding something like that. Or drank till we passed out/didn't see stuff when we closed our eyes.

(Someone told me once, when the M&M movie came out that the real hard place was 7 Mile rd not 8 mile. Is that where you live?)

Possible. I used to live there. Now I work nearby. In a garage. Eight mile was chosen because it is the North/South border of Wayne county and also of Detroit itself. Anything south of ten is fair game if you go east far enough. Even the Western whiter suburban areas have crime rates that would outrage any decent Canadian. Safer is relative. There have been two high speed car chases in our parking lot since Thanksgiving and the 7-11 I walk to for cigarettes on drinking nights was robbed several times this year. And we supposedly have a much lower rate of crime than the city proper does.

Definitely not something to sneeze at.

(I once smoked a bong with two cops in a bar on six mile, about four years before I was old enough to be in the bar, also the first time I heard Eminem, unfortunately I have been hearing him a couple years longer than most of you, he has a thoroughly Detroit sense of humor)

[OP ED]

Personal opinion, working theory, is that #pg is the magician's hand, but not the one you're supposed to be watching.

Being used to effectively communicate that the Podesta emails are irrelevant to the general public. As to its effect on the prospects for survivors time will tell. I don't personally think discussion of it in places like this is particularly relevant to anyone but us. This #fn bullshit was likely arranged well in advance to overlap with the psyop.

I'm interested in hearing more details about this hypothesis. It rings true enough that my curiosity is piqued.

Quite. This is the topic after all. (Although I would suggest that Detroit geography has as much to do with DC child trafficking as Giuliani's clone does, if not a lot more)

OP ED's unified Pizzagatekeeper Theory:

HRC is a CIA asset. The CF/CGI is a CIA front for laundry and leverage.

Epstein paid the startup, which, gatekeepers, should be enough to have everyone who touched his cash or was touched by it thoroughly investigated. This would include Brock and Alefantis.

(This is how Jeff's 9-11 research works, following the money)

Comparing the wrist slapping that Epstein received after all of the allegations levelled at him with another random recent pedocreep from another thread:

Bettman pleaded guilty in January to 11 counts of sexual exploitation of a minor, and one count of distribution, receipt and possession of child pornography. He is serving a 25-year term in federal prison.

(25 years)

Tell me having the Royal Family and more powerful people on speed dial didn't have something to do with this. The court transcripts heavily imply that his in home cameras were intended for blackmailing.

(#operation Midnight Climax)

The Clinton/Bush/Obama-Clinton executive branch has hampered progress in Haiti for decades. Lobbying to weaken sex trafficking law, to lower wages, to help IMF/CFR interest to keep the country weak and pliable. Any other reading of their policy in this region is denialist dissonance.

Enter Silsby. Given her pedo contact, her protection by the established, her completely apparently nonexistent charity and her repeated offenses she is a criminal. This isn't even questionable. Where were the undocumented children going? Why does someone with a practically infinite budget have no place to keep the children she was rescuing (with startup cash from a man whose victims claimed he wanted to adopt children to train sex slaves and who has princes and presidents in his black book) ???
(Note to gatekeepers, this question has multiple question marks because it's silly you're ignoring it's ramifications)

J Podesta was on vacation with another pedo while this pedo was practicing. [OP ED doesn't have any pedophiles for friends, he thinks that's weird of itself] He (Podesta) has been mentioned, by his opponents, yes, as being involved in sex trafficking years ago. His brother collects child abuse art and parties at BG with about five dozen people suspected of similar or worse crimes as exhaustedly documented here.

Getting there.

Donald Trump has known the same people, again, for decades. He has publicly alluded to Epstein's tastes. He may well be on some videos currently in possession of the FBI.
(He's accused by one of the same victims)

(The BFF nature of his daughter's friendship with the Clinton progeny is odd to say the least, but it would be pure speculation to comment further on this)

Suspects, literally, in the greater Epstein debacles are, again literally, friends And commentators on the CPP Instagrams, this might be the strongest evidence against CPP, aside from, you know the whole money laundering thing that fingers Brock.


WL was promising the release of the rest of the CF/CGI emails which they were claiming would derail the ENTIRETY of the American electoral process.

This never happened.

My contacts in LOA/D who collaborate with Anon/WL are currently insecure as to the status of WL and its leadership, as to if they're uncompromised or even still alive. This even being in doubt casts a massively implicative cloud across this entire subject.

This is JSOC coopting a white hat operation that has already been contained to signal from one suspect group to another not to interfere in an election stolen by standard operating procedure.

There is more. But that's the introductions. There's still Seth Rich and the ambiguity of Assange and etc to factor.

No Satanism required. Just money and power.