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Postby JackRiddler » Tue May 03, 2011 9:56 am

Brentos wrote:
Laodicean wrote:Nationalism on display in Chicago for the Hawks v. Bulls game broadcast on TNT.


I think JackRiddler said that Brzezinski & Rockefeller were at the Phillies v Mets game? In the VP suite?

I got home from work and flicked on the national nightly news and fans from that game in particular were shown celebrating and showing patriotism.


Thanks Brentos. I now half-expect that in five years I'll be arguing with someone who insists Brez and Rock were at a baseball game in Philadelphia watching the Mets the night OBL was killed, having heard it from Alex Jones. I'll be called an NWO propaganda agent for claiming that I made it up as a kind of dry joke about things people are willing to believe. I'll point to the box score showing that the Mets did not score 9 runs in the 11th followed by a Philly forfeit and patriotic joint singing of "New York, New York," but rather squeaked out a win with a run in the 14th, with the Phillies then taking their final swings as in a normal game, and I'll be told that box scores like all purported historical records can be altered, after all. Can you prove it didn't happen?

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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

Postby 2012 Countdown » Tue May 03, 2011 10:18 am

I am listening to the AJ podcast from yesterday. The first hour so far. Interesting info, but as it is always the case w/Jones, proceed with caution:

Inside Sources: Bin Laden’s Corpse Has Been On Ice For Nearly a Decade
A multitude of respected intelligence officials and heads of state have both publicly and privately asserted that Osama has been dead for years

http://www.prisonplanet.com/inside-sour ... ecade.html
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Postby wintler2 » Tue May 03, 2011 10:30 am

AlicetheKurious wrote:Interesting: the Sheikh al-Azhar, who is the highest religious authority in Egypt and for Sunni Muslims worldwide, was asked for his statement re the killing of Osama bin Laden. He answered tersely, saying that disposing of his body at sea violates all Islamic precepts and values, according to which the dead must be buried in the earth.


Thanks for the info. It is grotesque and tactless, and a surely unwelcome reminder of Operation Condor and Pinochet (as best known mass precedent) = so stupid as to be unbelievable, there must be more to this. .. dead of natural causes (as per Duke), or its not OBL, or the army wanted to fix the spin of the event (provoking Muslims) .. or maybe OBL has marine corp tatoos?

AlicetheKurious wrote:In another statement, Essam al-Arian, the official spokesman for the Muslim Brotherhood, agreed and called the burial at sea "a crime". He added that the Muslim Brotherhood does not consider assassination of accused criminals, especially when civilians are also killed, to be an acceptable substitute for arrest and a fair trial.

Whitehouse loves a show trial, if OBL could have been taken alive & given 3 months at Guantanamo his trial would have gone smoothly. I don't get it.
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Postby Luposapien » Tue May 03, 2011 10:45 am

Superman finally caught (and summarily executed) Lex Lothor? Can't help but feeling it's a bit more like Ronald McDonald finally nabbing the Hamburgler. Either way, haven't had the time to read through all of this, and haven't really been reading/watching much news for the past week or so, but I take it I'm supposed to be all pumped up about this? (Referring to the expectations of the pumpers, and not anyone here).

So, as best as I've been able to gather, our hearts are supposed to be swelling with pride and appreciation for the brave young men who risked their lives to make us all safer from the evil that lurks in the night, by shooting said evil in the head while he slept, and then dumping his body in the ocean. Sounds about par for the course. Something's wrong when I can't imagine myself getting excited about the official story even if I believed it. Can't wait for the Michael Bay version.
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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

Postby 2012 Countdown » Tue May 03, 2011 11:28 am

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Wow. See, I was banned on another site for my insisting on questioning this part of the story in particular. One of my last posts was about all the BS glory stories we were fed in the past. OBL using a woman as shield and fighting back was the narrative being pushed. No one was going to get in the way of unbridaled glee and chest beating. My incredulity and antagonism got me the boot. Now today...

White House modifies Osama bin Laden account

By JOSH GERSTEIN | 5/2/11 11:37 PM EDT Updated: 5/3/11 7:53 AM EDT

The White House backed away Monday evening from key details in its narrative about the raid that killed Osama bin Laden, including claims by senior U.S. officials that the Al Qaeda leader had a weapon and may have fired it during a gun battle with U.S. forces.

Officials also retreated from claims that one of bin Laden’s wives was killed in the raid and that bin Laden was using her as a human shield before she was shot by U.S. forces.


At a televised White House briefing Monday afternoon, Deputy National Security Adviser John Brennan said bin Laden joined in the fight that several residents of the Abbottabad, Pakistan, compound put up against the Navy SEALs during the 40-minute operation.

“He [bin Laden] was engaged in a firefight with those that entered the area of the house he was in. And whether or not he got off any rounds, I quite frankly don’t know,” Brennan said.

At a Pentagon briefing earlier in the day, a senior defense official said bin Laden used a woman as a human shield so he could fire shots. “He was firing behind her,” the official said.

In another background briefing early Monday morning, a senior administration official also said bin Laden put up a fight. “He did resist the assault force. And he was killed in a firefight,” the official said.

However, during a background, off-camera briefing for television reporters later Monday, a senior White House official said bin Laden was not armed when he was killed, apparently by the U.S. raid team.

Another White House official familiar with the TV briefing confirmed the change to POLITICO, adding, “I’m not aware of him having a weapon.”

“The bottom line is the team that entered that room was met with resistance and took appropriate action,” said a third American official.

The White House on Monday night declined to elaborate on the nature of the resistance bin Laden allegedly put up. However, an official confirmed that the Al Qaeda founder was shot twice, once in the head and once in the chest.

At the Monday evening briefing for TV reporters, a senior official also corrected what Brennan described earlier as “my understanding” that the woman who acted as a shield for bin Laden was one of his wives and was killed.

“A different guy’s wife was killed,” a different official familiar with the briefing for TV reporters said Monday night. Bin Laden’s wife was “injured but not killed,” the official said.

Another official familiar with the operation said it did not appear that any woman was used as a human shield, but that the woman killed and the one injured were hurt in the crossfire. The official said he believed Brennan had mixed up the episode involving bin Laden’s wife with another encounter elsewhere in the compound.

“Two women were shot here. It sounds like their fates were mixed up,” said the U.S. official. “This is hours old and the full facts are still being ascertained as those involved are debriefed.”

In another discrepancy, Brennan said during his on-the-record briefing that bin Laden’s son Khalid was killed in the attack. However, the official White House transcript had the counterterrorism adviser saying it was another son, Hamza, who perished in the raid.

The White House didn’t offer a reason for any of the changes. However, Brennan noted during his televised briefing that his information came from reports from the scene as well as live video feeds of the raid. “I wasn’t there,” he said.

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Re: OSAMA BIN LADEN ANNOUNCED DEAD BY OBAMA (renamed thread)

Postby Brentos » Tue May 03, 2011 11:31 am

JackRiddler wrote:
Brentos wrote:
Laodicean wrote:Nationalism on display in Chicago for the Hawks v. Bulls game broadcast on TNT.


I think JackRiddler said that Brzezinski & Rockefeller were at the Phillies v Mets game? In the VP suite?

I got home from work and flicked on the national nightly news and fans from that game in particular were shown celebrating and showing patriotism.


Thanks Brentos. I now half-expect that in five years I'll be arguing with someone who insists Brez and Rock were at a baseball game in Philadelphia watching the Mets the night OBL was killed, having heard it from Alex Jones. I'll be called an NWO propaganda agent for claiming that I made it up as a kind of dry joke about things people are willing to believe. I'll point to the box score showing that the Mets did not score 9 runs in the 11th followed by a Philly forfeit and patriotic joint singing of "New York, New York," but rather squeaked out a win with a run in the 14th, with the Phillies then taking their final swings as in a normal game, and I'll be told that box scores like all purported historical records can be altered, after all. Can you prove it didn't happen?

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Haha, and I was wondering if you were joking, since nothing surprises me. Yep, someone has probably already posted on a truth blog after reading this thread, to start the snowball rolling.
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Postby Bruce Dazzling » Tue May 03, 2011 11:44 am

8bitagent wrote:Wow. DailyKos, Huffpo, and virtually every single "liberal" blog or news site is in overload peacock puffery, framing it as a "Cheney and republicans are sore because Obama got Osama"

It's definitely official, the liberals in America have completely been amalgamated lock stock into the neocon mind trap. Obama now has the currency to do whatever the hell he's ordered to do.
Because anyone who dares question it, is a tea party idiot

Is there ANY liberal sites asking questions?

Bruce Dazzling wrote:This business of the burial at sea smells like deliberately contrived "truther bait" to me.

It's like they knew exactly how ridiculous it was going to sound to anyone using any common sense, and they want those people walking around claiming that this is another conspiracy so that they can be lumped in with all of those birther loonies who think we didn't go to the moon, etc, blah, blah, blah.

It's just another method of marginalizing those who haven't gotten with the Empire's program yet.



Absolutely. And so far there's no major outcry to demand proof...since proof demanders are racist birther right wingers now


I'm surprised they didn't really go for the gusto and claim that his body was cast adrift in the Van Allen Belt, or that he was eaten by wild pigs when the Delta Force guys were chasing his 2nd cousin through the billiard room.

I mean, why the fuck not, right?
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Postby AlicetheKurious » Tue May 03, 2011 11:58 am

2012 Countdown wrote:
White House modifies Osama bin Laden account

By JOSH GERSTEIN | 5/2/11 11:37 PM EDT Updated: 5/3/11 7:53 AM EDT

The White House backed away Monday evening from key details in its narrative about the raid that killed Osama bin Laden, including claims by senior U.S. officials that the Al Qaeda leader had a weapon and may have fired it during a gun battle with U.S. forces.

Officials also retreated from claims that one of bin Laden’s wives was killed in the raid and that bin Laden was using her as a human shield before she was shot by U.S. forces.


At a televised White House briefing Monday afternoon, Deputy National Security Adviser John Brennan said bin Laden joined in the fight that several residents of the Abbottabad, Pakistan, compound put up against the Navy SEALs during the 40-minute operation.

“He [bin Laden] was engaged in a firefight with those that entered the area of the house he was in. And whether or not he got off any rounds, I quite frankly don’t know,” Brennan said.

At a Pentagon briefing earlier in the day, a senior defense official said bin Laden used a woman as a human shield so he could fire shots. “He was firing behind her,” the official said.


Wait a minute. I'm positive I heard on the Al Jazeera English that the SEALS found bin Laden asleep upstairs in bed.
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Postby Bruce Dazzling » Tue May 03, 2011 12:31 pm

2012 Countdown wrote:.

“He [bin Laden] was engaged in a firefight with those that entered the area of the house he was in. And whether or not he got off any rounds, I quite frankly don’t know,” Brennan said.

At a Pentagon briefing earlier in the day, a senior defense official said bin Laden used a woman as a human shield so he could fire shots. “He was firing behind her,” the official said.

In another background briefing early Monday morning, a senior administration official also said bin Laden put up a fight. “He did resist the assault force. And he was killed in a firefight,” the official said.

However, during a background, off-camera briefing for television reporters later Monday, a senior White House official said bin Laden was not armed when he was killed, apparently by the U.S. raid team.

Another White House official familiar with the TV briefing confirmed the change to POLITICO, adding, “I’m not aware of him having a weapon.”

“The bottom line is the team that entered that room was met with resistance and took appropriate action,” said a third American official.

The White House on Monday night declined to elaborate on the nature of the resistance bin Laden allegedly put up. However, an official confirmed that the Al Qaeda founder was shot twice, once in the head and once in the chest.

At the Monday evening briefing for TV reporters, a senior official also corrected what Brennan described earlier as “my understanding” that the woman who acted as a shield for bin Laden was one of his wives and was killed.

“A different guy’s wife was killed,” a different official familiar with the briefing for TV reporters said Monday night. Bin Laden’s wife was “injured but not killed,” the official said.

Another official familiar with the operation said it did not appear that any woman was used as a human shield, but that the woman killed and the one injured were hurt in the crossfire. The official said he believed Brennan had mixed up the episode involving bin Laden’s wife with another encounter elsewhere in the compound.

“Two women were shot here. It sounds like their fates were mixed up,” said the U.S. official. “This is hours old and the full facts are still being ascertained as those involved are debriefed.”

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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54162.html


I LOVE it! The above passage proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that they don't even respect us enough to put even the slightest effort into getting their stories straight.



Here's the short version (to be accompanied by the Benny Hill theme song, naturally...

"Ok, so Bin Laden was asleep in bed when one of the Delta Force guys tip-toed up to him and placed his hand in a bowl of warm water, making the terrorist mastermind wet the bed.

Ooops, I mean ... Bin Laden was taking a shower with a plastic wrapped AK-47 when the Delta Force leader flushed the toilet, scalding the sum of all of our fears with really hot water.

Erm ... I'm sorry, I was a bit confused, what really happened was that Bin Laden was playing poker with Jim Morrison and the real Paul McCartney when the Delta guys snuck up behind him and signaled to the other players that he had a royal flush, at which point they all immediately folded, ruining what surely would have been a monster hand for the leader of Al Kader."


And there's always this...

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Postby DoYouEverWonder » Tue May 03, 2011 1:35 pm

I'm starting to pray that this fiasco turns into Obama and the M$M's "Mission Accomplished" moment.
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Postby elfismiles » Tue May 03, 2011 1:36 pm

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Postby Nordic » Tue May 03, 2011 1:51 pm

Reminds me of a photo I did once, when my wife was pregnant, where I photoshopped my face onto the face of the fetus, in one of the ultrasound photos.

I could dig it out, if you want ....
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Postby Nordic » Tue May 03, 2011 1:52 pm

smiths wrote:
The assault force of Navy SEALs snatched a trove of computer drives and disks during their weekend raid on Osama bin Laden’s compound, yielding what a U.S. official called “the mother lode of intelligence.”

The special operations forces grabbed personal computers, thumb drives and electronic equipment during the lightning raid that killed bin Laden, officials told POLITICO


Fear of tech helped betray Osama bin Laden

The absence of the basic tools of modern communications in a luxury home was cited by US officials as precisely one of the things that aroused their suspicion that the building was being used to house the al-Qaeda leader.

Briefing reporters on the intelligence that led to the raid on bin Laden's hideout, a senior US administration official who requested anonymity said it was "noteworthy" that "the property is valued at approximately $US1 million but has no telephone or internet service connected to it".

http://www.theage.com.au/technology/tec ... 1e5rh.html



Good catch, Smiths. Yes, the compound had zero internet or phones, yet when they went inside, there were just TONS of computers! Maybe it was a rendering farm for a nearby animation house ....


tonnes of electronic equipment containing the mother lode, and no equipment which was very suspicious,
presumably Usama had blokes turning up with bits of paper containing hand drawn maps which he then got someone to type and draw into computers
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Postby Nordic » Tue May 03, 2011 1:59 pm

"The goal of modern propaganda is no longer to transform opinion but to arouse an active and mythical belief." Jacques Ellul, philosopher


Cindy Sheehan posted this on her Facebook page this morning.
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Postby Bruce Dazzling » Tue May 03, 2011 2:01 pm

Nordic wrote:Reminds me of a photo I did once, when my wife was pregnant, where I photoshopped my face onto the face of the fetus, in one of the ultrasound photos.

I could dig it out, if you want ....


Please.

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