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Postby 82_28 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:36 pm

Nordic wrote:And for those who like their Woo extra-strength, check this out:

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I am a mother of four in my mid 30's and I have been told that I have some psychic abilities, mainly psychometry, paranormal, and lately remote viewing. Things come to me in the form of pictures in my mind, feelings and impressions, and sometimes sounds. I typically get them when asked to focus on specific objects or events. I clear my mind, think of the question or object and this blog is an example of what I get. This blog is a way for me to organize all my thoughts.

FRIDAY, DECEMBER 21, 2012

Are these shooting massacres staged?
8:15 PM - Ok, I want to first say that with all the controversy, I hesitate even doing this reading, But with so much media talking about it, it is hard not to focus on it, and I keep just getting random images every time the topic of these shootings come up. Initially when I thought about it I saw three gentleman involved. And my impression was that two of them kind of knew what was going on and pre planned it and the third guy who actually was killed I felt was completely a scapegoat. I even had the thought that they should check the shooter's hand for gun powder and I would have been surprised if he actually shot a gun at all. And the other two that were with him that actually did the the shootings were wearing faded out jeans, a tan Carhartt jacket and their hair was kind of like greasy looking and they had a lot of stubble on their face as if they needed to shave. And I felt like those two individuals after everything happened escaped out of the back of the school and I almost can see them going out a window, I do not think they walked out a door. And then after that happened I had a flash back to the movie "Red Dragon" and in that movie the killer sat up high in some trees and I felt as though those two individuals did that and then once the parents were called and everything got hectic they escaped by going through the crowd of people. One of the guys for some reason kept like rubbing his thumb across the tip of his nose and at one point I thought maybe he had a runny nose and kept doing that, but that kinda did not feel right, and I think what he was doing was rubbing his nose but talking to something at his wrist.

Then later by about 3 or 4 hours I seen something on the news I think which made me think about it again. And then completely at random I saw this older guy and he was at a golf course with his buddies, and I sensed that he was really well to do. Like a high member of society, and what was kind of comical was when they were on the golf course it felt like him and his buddies tried to outdo each other with their outlandish golf apparel, and it just felt like a good ol boys club.

Then I kept focusing on "What is this guys name?" And he looked like he was in his fifties, his hair was so grey it almost looked white and the only thing his friends kept calling him was "Bat Wing". And it was an inside joke of some kind because this guy had an obsession with Batman but it was like they called him Bat Wing just as some joking nickname. And I could not get any other name than that.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batwing_(DC_Comics)

And then the very last thing that I saw was them driving off on a golf cart and on the back side of the golf cart it had the name "Tradewinds" and it was in green writing and the T kinda looked like a palm tree but it was all green, all the writing was green. And that is kind of the sum of what I have gotten in my random thoughts and now I will focus on specific questions.

Q-Was the two other guys with Bat Wing the shooters?
A-Hm..I do not feel like it was because the two guys that were with Bat Wing were in their fifties, and the guys that were with the shooters even thought I felt like their appearance was a costume (that is how it came to me), I feel like they were more like late thirties to early forties.
Q-Who Masterminded this?
A-I feel like it came from the guy that they called Bat Wing.
Q-What was his motive?
A-.......It....It is something about there is a guy that is above him, and he is wearing a black pillowcase over his head. And I keep getting that image on "Prison Break" of the guy that was called "The General" and he did not talk, and he did not interact with people and he remained anonymous. But this guy wearing this black pillowcase made some kind of a financial deal with this guy called Batwing to try to get the guns banned. And the deal was...there is a lot of money to be made, if you help me get this accomplished, and I am getting a strong impression that if the guy wearing the black pillowcase, if his identity was found out, we would be at some kind of war. Like I am starting to feel anxious and uncomfortable.
Q-One name, who wanted the guns banned, Pillowcase or Batwing?
A-Pillowcase does, and Batwing is doing it just to make money.
Q-Why does pillowcase want it done?
A-I keep hearing the word "Shaman" I do not know what it means, but I keep hearing it over and over again.
Q-Are these two Americans or another nationality.
A-I will say I am am seeing a lot of those "Worm" words and I am trying to focus to see if I could try to write it out. In my mind it seems like cursive lowcase h's,j's, and z's. I am also getting a name called Rubio.
Q-Is the school shooting related to the theater shooting?
A-I feel like the theater, the temple, and the school shooting are related. I feel like that senator lady was something different.
Q-What is Batwing's agenda, or motivation?
A-Money
Q-How can he make money by getting weapons banned?
A-Because that is the deal the guy with the black pillowcase gave him.
Q-I am sorry, I meant to say Pillowcase, what is his motive?
A-There is something going on that, there is like a new technology coming out for guns and I feel like it is the material maybe that it is being made from is like superb to anything that exists now. And they only want that type of technology and quality and technology to be in the hands of certain military groups. So they are fine with citizens buying up everything that we have now to deplete inventories. Because when this new type of weaponry comes out their will be laws in force that normal citizen cannot obtain it. And the military will have the superb weapons. And I feel like it is by far, like this is going to be some really great thing and they DO NOT want citizens to have it.
Q-Can you see what this technology may be.
A-I feel like it is metal or the quality of the gun. Like it will be ultra clean when you fire it, I feel like it will have better muffling of the sound and be more lighter and portable.
Q-Gun power based ? or magnetic projectile?
A-It looks like a bullet, but the sound it has when it is shot sounds like how when you heat plastic over a fire and when it drips it makes that weird sound. That is what it sounds like when the bullet is released.
Q-Is it loud?
A-No
Q-So a more silenced weapon?
A-Yes.
Q-So motivation is to get laws in place to limit future weapons from being obtained by citizens.
A-Yes.
Q-So NOT to protect citizens from weapons?
A-Oh, No it has nothing to do with that.
Q-Is the President in the know of this?
A-I feel like he does know. I do not think he agrees with it, but I feel like he is being forced into it.
Q-Why do they want to limit civilian weapons?
A-Well the image I am getting is people at war, and I am seeing one side with a bow and arrow, and the side with a gun, and the side with the gun I feel like is this military and they want to ensure that people cannot compete with the weaponry that the military has.
Q-When will this new weapon type be introduced?
A-I am seeing like July or August of 2013. I feel like Germany is somehow involved in the manufacturing of all of this. I do not know if they make weapons or not.
Q-What is nationality of Batwing?
A-I keep seeing a swastika so that is like creeping me out, but I cannot tell if it is directed toward Germany, or one of those little like dominantly Jewish countries. Because I keep seeing this very intense swastika but I feel it is definitely in that region of the world.
Q-Going back to the school shooting, was it all premeditated?
A-Yes, by the two guys in the Carhartts, I almost feel like the guy that was labeled as the shooter thought he was really going inside to talk to his mom.
Q-What type of weapon did you see these two use? Pistol, Rifle, what?
A-I see it as a pistol they had concealed on their body. I do not see any long guns.
Q-How did the patsy or son die?
A-I feel like one of the guys walked up behind him and grabbed him, the other guy knelled down in front of him, and then just stuck the pistol kind of up under his chin and...shot him that way.
Q-Did they kill the son, first or last?
A-They did it last, because they knew everyone would be hiding and their would not be as many witnesses that way.
Q-Would the son not protest them shooting?
A-I feel like he was half out of it. Like I keep gettting the phrase in my mind "Dodo" which means to me that he was not clear headed. I do not feel like he was intoxicated, it was more like he was in some sort of a trance.
Q-Did he have gun?
A-I think one of the guys with the Carhartts left their gun with the shooter after they shot him.
Q-Wouldn't witnesses have hear simultaneous gunshots if their were two shooters?
A-I feel like some of them probably did hear it.
Q-How did they all get into school?
A-I feel like they just walked right in.
Q-How was the school and patsy selected, and why?
A-....I really do not know, like nothing is coming to me.
Q-Was the mother targeted specifically?
A-I feel yes, in fact I feel like I am seeing a woman;s face and she is being vocal about something that has people pissed off and she was targeted because of that, but it is unclear to me as to what the specific details are.
Q-Are there more shootings to come?
A-I do not really feel like there are. I really hope I am right about that.
Q-So Batwing, being a Batman fan, orchestrated both of these shootings. Is it true the "Sandy Hook" shown on the map of the third Batman movie was intentionally put their, or coincidence? And do you want to see that.
A-No I don't want to see, but I do feel like it WAS intentional, and I feel like they were sending a message, but no one could understand it until it was too late.
Q-Was the families of the shooters targeted randomly, or based on their motives and positions, like to give lesson to others.
A-I think it was motive driven and ...I feel it is being viewed wrong. Like rather than look at the shooter and his mom and brother or whoever else died. It was like the mom was killed and all of her family.
Q-So the killing of the mom and son was to send a message to whom?
A-I feel it was to the mom, like it was directed towards her.
Q-Why did the theater shooter tell the police about bombs in his apartment?
A-I think he was having like a moment of clarity and guilt and hoping for maybe a little bit of...I don't know forgiveness or something.
Q-Did the theater shooter actually shoot and were there accomplices?
A-I feel like other people did the shooting, but the movie guy or I do not know what his name is, was convinced to believe that he did do it.
Q-What method was used, drugs, hypnosis, peer pressure?
A-I think it was drugs. And I think it was something that he snorted.
Q-Is there any link between the two accomplices, like did the same person help out at both incidents?
A-I think there is a good possibility of that, in this theater I see them dressed like a SWAT team, but they feel the same to me in the way that they move.
Q-Will Pillowcases' agenda come true, or do you see future citizens possessing advanced weapons?
A-I think citizens WILL get advanced weapons, but it is going to be like 10 years from now.
Q-Are they planning some type of war on the citizens? I mean wouldn't they profit more it citizen too could buy their weapons?
A-I feel like these head people are already rich, what they want is POWER. I do not feel like a war is being planned, I just kind of feel like they want to plant the illusion that they are in control.
Q-What is your personal view on gun violence?
A-I feel like if you take guns away from the American people, we will have more violence because criminals will still have guns, and I feel like limiting guns to the law abiding citizens is not going to decrease these catastrophes because if someone wants to you know plot some kind of an attack, they are going to find a way to do it.
Q-How did you feel about this reading?
A-I feel really uncomfortable about it?
Q-Why?
A-Because this is just way huge, it is more than just a mentally ill guy going into a school, I mean there is a bigger agenda, a lot of money, high up officials, and other countries are even involved and I do not really want to be associated to it.


Charlie Crist better than Marco Rubio on 2nd Amendment?



Before he became House Speaker in 2006, Marco Rubio had a nice "A" rating from the NRA. But when he faces Gov. Charlie Crist in the 2010 Republican U.S. Senate primary, his rating will drop when they post grades/ratings after the spring legislative session of 2010, said NRA lobbyist Marion Hammer.

Blame the guns in the work place parking lot law that ultimately gave gun owners the right to bring their firearms to work place parking lots, provided the weapons were kept safely in vehicles. The Florida Chamber of Commerce successfully blocked the legislation one year and finally agreed to compromise language with the NRA.

Though Rubio ultimately voted for the final bill, Hammer (a.k.a., the most feared person in the Capitol) said the speaker should have done more to help the NRA.

"He voted when the gun bill was brought to the vote, but we know that what goes on behind the scenes is an entirely different story," Hammer said. She said the NRA ratings -- a big deal in the Republican primary -- are based not just on how politicians vote, but on the totality of what they do or appear to do.

"We watch everything: false claims, lips service, what a member tells other people,'' said Hammer adding that, with Rubio "it's not pretty... we take our issue very seriously."

Crist has often been in the NRA's corner. Even when he didn't know he was. Case in point: Crist's recommended budget for this year. It proposed taking $8 million from a trust fund dedicated to receiving concealed-weapon permit fees to help process CWPs. The Legislature knocked Crist's recommendation down to $6 million. Then the NRA made a stink, so Crist vetoed the trust fund sweep that he ultimately had proposed.

Hammer said that won't be held against Crist because his budget was based on staff recommendations that he wasn't fully aware of when he unveiled the spending plan. Once he learned of the implications of the trust fund sweep, Crist acted accordingly.

Crist did, however, buck the NRA when he chose Justice James Perry for the Florida Supreme Court. The NRA lobbied against him. The NRA also wanted Crist to pick Jim Smith to fill out the rest of U.S. Sen. Mel Martinez's term, but Crist picked his former staff/campaign chief George LeMieux.

Marc Caputo


http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz- ... -amendment

And he looked like he was in his fifties, his hair was so grey it almost looked white and the only thing his friends kept calling him was "Bat Wing".


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Hmmm mmm mmm. If there is anything to this remote viewing tale some of it most certainly adds up to way more primitive than even circumstantial evidence -- but a little of it adds up. Charlie Crist has been "flip flopping" forever it seems between parties. Endorsed Obama this year. While Rubio beat him in a recent election.

There is a golf club in Florida called "Duran" and its restaurant is called "Tradewinds'. Yeah, Nordic, I do like my woo extra strength. It's always fun to go down these paths, not believing a bit of it, but just taking it and see where it leads. It makes for great fiction writing and screenplays to boot at least!

If my internet connection wasn't throttled right now, I'd be looking more up on the little bits the "psychic" mentions. But there is a degree of veracity and motive if you do dig a little deeper.
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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby 82_28 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:41 pm

Oh shit. Somebody in the comments of the link Nordic WOOs us with, brought up the same thing.
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Postby elfismiles » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:47 pm


Real Or Fake? “I’m Going to Kill Myself on Friday and it Will Make the News”
Did shooter post pre-massacre threat on Internet messageboard?

Paul Joseph Watson
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December 15, 2012

http://www.infowars.com/im-going-to-kil ... -the-news/



Did massacre gunman make internet threat the day before Sandy Hook massacre?
PUBLISHED: 23:51 EST, 15 December 2012 | UPDATED: 06:27 EST, 16 December 2012

..An eery post on an Internet message board made Wednesday night by a user allegedly in Connecticut who threatened to kill himself on Friday morning and 'make the news,' is raising some questions as to whether it was Newtown Elementary School shooter Adam Lanza.

According to Infowars.com, the post appeared on the 4Chan web site at 10:18pm Wednesday and was made by a user with the user name ‘iKTatjYX.’

The post stated, 'I’m going to kill myself on Friday and it will make the news, be watching at 9am.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... sacre.html



barracuda wrote:Some tidbits from the National Enquirer: WORLD EXCLUSIVE: INSIDE THE SICK TWISTED LIFE OF ADAM LANZA

Incredibly, it appears that Lanza hinted at his murderous inten­tions on a popular hacker website two nights before his rampage. The message, obtained by The ENQUIRER, was posted by a user named “iKTatjYX,” whom authorities suspect was Lanza, and stated: “I’m going to kill myself on Friday and it will make the news, be watching at 9am.”

When a respondent asked “iKTatjYX” where he was based, the reply was: “I live in Connecticut, that’s as much as I’ll say.”

Under the message was a disturbing image of the bodies of the students responsible for the 1999 massacre at Colorado’s Columbine High School, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold.
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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby lupercal » Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:55 pm

New Haven Register: no body armor, just a fishing vest:

“It was a fishing type vest, a jacket with a lot of pockets; it was not a bullet-proof vest,” Vance said.

On Dec. 14, Lanza killed his mother, Nancy Lanza, then went to the Newtown school, where he opened fire, killing 20 children and six adults.

Vance previously has said Adam Lanza primarily used a rifle, a Bushmaster AR-15, during the school shooting, though he also had a Glock 10 mm and a Sig Sauer 9-mm handgun, along with additional ammunition and multiple magazines for each gun that could hold “hundreds” of bullets.

A utility vest is readily available in any sporting goods store. While Lanza’s vest would have provided him plenty of storage for ammunition, it wouldn’t have protected him from gunfire. Police never fired on Lanza, who shot himself when police closed in on him.

Some media outlets have reported that Lanza wore a bullet-proof vest, which Vance refuted Thursday.

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Postby compared2what? » Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:06 pm

lupercal wrote:
Iamwhomiam wrote:So, it seems this tragedy's whacky factor was lagging, after all.

Not to worry:

Gun group trains 200 Utah teachers to use weapons in school
Updated 12/27/2012 8:43:42 AM ET



(snip)

mission accomplished, at least one of them, and it ain't gun control.


The mission was to make Utah more gun-positive????

Utah does not require permits or registration to buy a gun, own a gun, or to carry a gun openly. Anyone who wishes to carry concealed is required to obtain a carry permit. Utah is a shall-issue state. The state has no restrictions on "assault weapons" and no additional restrictions on NFA weapons beyond those imposed by the federal government. Utah has castle doctrine and stand-your-ground laws which allow a person to use deadly force against anyone forcibly and unlawfully entering or attempting to enter their home. The person using self-defense does not have a duty to retreat.


http://weapons.about.com/od/gunlaws/tp/ ... states.htm
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Postby lupercal » Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:27 pm

^^ Not Utah, Utah's schools, and other state's:

In Ohio, the Buckeye Firearms Association said it was launching a test program in tactical firearms training for 24 teachers initially.


Also per the article: Utah is the canary in the coal mine as its laws allow weapons to be carried in schools, though some kind of licensing and training are apparently required, an idea that isn't catching on, as only 1% of Utah teachers (240) are estimated by pro-gunners to have "concealed carry" licenses. Also it seems the idea is not without its strenuous critics, even in Utah:

"It's a terrible idea," said Carol Lear, a chief lawyer for the Utah Office of Education, who argues teachers could be overpowered for their guns or misfire or cause an accidental shooting. "It's a horrible, terrible, no-good, rotten idea."
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Postby 82_28 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:39 pm

Fuckin' Utah. I once got three speeding tickets in one day there coming home from Vegas. Denver Nuggets Center Brian Williams once said, back in the 90's, that "the only thing to do in Utah is go to Vegas." To Utah's credit, it is a beautiful state. It must have been quite the cash cow and still is to pull over us Coloradans zipping back and forth between Denver and Vegas. I mean WTF, it's the only state that has signs warning you "This Is It". 112 miles with no services. It's a spooky feeling passing that threshold. After you pass the Colorado/Utah line, you can basically feel it. Even though Colorado I guess leads Utah in gruesome mass murders.

Utah is spooky, but also geologically fascinating. But it is like going into another country/culture just like that. No blending.
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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby solace » Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:40 pm

DNA of Sandy Hook killer Adam Lanza to be examined for 'evil' gene in first study of its kind ever conducted on a mass murderer


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Postby JackRiddler » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:36 pm

Anything long as we don't have to think about child-rearing practices and the general response to persons who deviate from the expected norm.
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Postby JackRiddler » Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:09 pm

Ah geez, now you guys are going to go nuts. The latest latest story is that Lanza wore no body armor, contrary to earlier reports.
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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby 8bitagent » Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:10 pm

Just saw an interesting documentary on Netflix called "Murder by proxy" about the 1986-present phenomenon of postal and other workplace related mass shootings.

82_28 wrote:Fuckin' Utah. I once got three speeding tickets in one day there coming home from Vegas. Denver Nuggets Center Brian Williams once said, back in the 90's, that "the only thing to do in Utah is go to Vegas." To Utah's credit, it is a beautiful state. It must have been quite the cash cow and still is to pull over us Coloradans zipping back and forth between Denver and Vegas. I mean WTF, it's the only state that has signs warning you "This Is It". 112 miles with no services. It's a spooky feeling passing that threshold. After you pass the Colorado/Utah line, you can basically feel it. Even though Colorado I guess leads Utah in gruesome mass murders.

Utah is spooky, but also geologically fascinating. But it is like going into another country/culture just like that. No blending.


From all I've heard about Utah(including quite a lot of people I know who have/currently lived there), Utah is freaking weird.

You want to talk about strangely sexually repressed people, or just culturally repressed. So many fake smiles. Everyone is obsessed about obtaining "clean edits" of R rated films through black market channels. (A lot of girls prefer anal/oral as to "technically remain a virgin"...again, just weird thinking) O'douls is big, since alcohol is a big no no. Major discrimination against non LDS citizens. Unforgivingly intolerable attitudes toward gay teens(quite a number of suicides/runaways) But I heard because of all this nutty right wing religious nonsense, there's a pretty cool art/music/subculture underground

I don't get it...Utah is the most conservative state in America...yet they believe God and Christ have multiple wives/lovers on planets that they'll also inherit with their celestial sex bodies, and they were founded
by a delusional Mason who wanted an excuse to have multiple wives. To me, that doesn't sound very conservative in a traditional sense.
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Postby 8bitagent » Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:21 pm

82_28 wrote:
Utah is spooky, but also geologically fascinating. But it is like going into another country/culture just like that.


You really need to see Matthew Barney's 1999 film "Cremaster 2". Which amps up the Utah occult topology/LDS/wtf creep factor to 100









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Postby lupercal » Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:27 am

Claim seeks $100 million for child survivor of Connecticut school shooting
By Mary Ellen Godin | Reuters – 6 hrs ago

MERIDEN, Connecticut (Reuters) - A $100 million claim on behalf of a 6-year-old survivor is the first legal action to come out of the Connecticut school shooting that left 26 children and adults dead two weeks ago.

The unidentified client, referred to as Jill Doe, heard "cursing, screaming, and shooting" over the school intercom when the gunman, 20-year-old Adam Lanza, opened fire, according to the claim filed by New Haven-based attorney Irv Pinsky.

"As a consequence, the ... child has sustained emotional and psychological trauma and injury, the nature and extent of which are yet to be determined," the claim said.


Pinsky said he filed a claim on Thursday with state Claims Commissioner J. Paul Vance Jr., whose office must give permission before a lawsuit can be filed against the state.

"We all know its going to happen again," Pinsky said on Friday. "Society has to take action."

Twenty children and six adults were shot dead on December 14 at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. The children were all 6 and 7 years old.

Pinsky's claim said that the state Board of Education, Department of Education and Education Commissioner had failed to take appropriate steps to protect children from "foreseeable harm."

It said they had failed to provide a "safe school setting" or design "an effective student safety emergency response plan and protocol."


Pinsky said he was approached by the child's parents within a week of the shooting.

The shooting, which also left the gunman dead, has prompted extensive debate about gun control and the suggestion by the National Rifle Association that schools be patrolled by armed guards. Police have said the gunman killed his mother at their home in Newtown before going to the school.

http://news.yahoo.com/claim-seeks-100-m ... 46074.html


Psy-op victim sues for psychological damage . . . good luck with that.
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Postby Nordic » Sat Dec 29, 2012 4:20 am

82_28 wrote:I mean WTF, it's the only state that has signs warning you "This Is It". 112 miles with no services. It's a spooky feeling passing that threshold. After you pass the Colorado/Utah line, you can basically feel it.


I agree. I used to drive that stretch pretty regularly, and there's something that messes with your head about it. Once I almost sorta hypnotized myself while driving through there, started feeling like I was going back in time and starting to see the place like it was a couple hundred years ago. I had to make myself snap out of it because I was worried I wouldn't be able to if I let it go any farther, amid realizing that I hadn't really intended to do it in the first place. Then there are all the dead deer. I70 is just littered with bloody deer carcasses for miles and miles in that stretch. It's gruesome.

Back to topic I guess.

As far as the clairvoyant's take on the murders, I have to say that what she claims to have seen actually makes some sense. I mean, if you're looking for motive, timing, means ...... It would make sense that they might want to ban the sale of new weapons if there is a super-new gun technology looming. Seems like I remember some candidates for what this could be based on my looking into DARPA stuff. If I have time I'll try to delve into that.
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Re: Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

Postby lupercal » Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:18 am

3 days before Sandy Hook:

Israel Weapon Industries Launches Operations of its US Subsidiary, IWI US, Inc
ammoland | Published on Tuesday, December 11, 2012

Company Leases Facility in Pennsylvania. First products to be marketed will be the TAVOR SAR and UZI PRO Pistol, specially designed for the US Market.

Israel Weapon Industries

Ramat Hasharon, Israel --(Ammoland.com)- Israel Weapon Industries (IWI) – a leader in the production of combat-proven small arms for governments, armies, and law enforcement agencies around the world – launches operations of its US subsidiary, IWI US, Inc.

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“We have now decided to enter the civilian market in the US and offer products that have been specially developed for the US commercial market. Initially, we will offer several configurations of the TAVOR SAR and the UZI PRO Pistol, which have undergone changes and adjustments to suit the needs of the American consumer.”

Mr. Amit continued, “Over the years, rumors have circulated regarding the launch of our US operations, which has created expectations in the civilian market, and we look forward to an excellent reception of our products by US shooting enthusiasts. We will be introducing our new weapons at the upcoming SHOT Show – and invite you to visit our booth to take a closer look.”

About Israel Weapon Industries (IWI)

Israel Weapon Industries (IWI), located in the center of Israel, has been a world leader in small arms for the past 80 years. IWI is a member of the SK Group, which is composed of companies that develop and manufacture a wide array of military products for governmental entities, armies, and law enforcement agencies around the world. IWI’s best-known products include the TAVOR and GALIL ACE families of Assault Rifles, the NEGEV Light Machine Gun, the legendary UZI SMG (Mini, Micro and UZI PRO) and the JERICHO family of pistols – which have all been considered weapons of choice by military units and top law enforcement agencies around the world. The company’s firearms are developed in close collaboration with the Israel Defense Forces (IDF). IWI and the IDF join forces in developing these weapons, whose final configurations are the product of ongoing interaction, field tests, and modifications, resulting from combat requirements and experience. All IWI weapon systems are in compliance with the most stringent military standards (MIL-STD) and ISO 9000 standards.

http://www.ammoland.com/2012/12/11/isra ... i-us-inc/#


Meanwhile, assault rifles and ammo are flying off the shelves, as per usual after well-publicized massacres: http://news.yahoo.com/fearful-ban-frenz ... nance.html
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