Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby JackRiddler » Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:44 am

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Kagan, absolutely. The neocons and the majority of PNACers, absolutely. They have cast their lot all the way -- a grand coalition of imperialists from Max Boot all the way across the full filthy inch to Samantha Power.

Cheney, no. That article is from 2011, when Clinton was the resident neocon in the Obama admin, as we know. Cheney was just messing with them.

Cheney supports Trump - whom he (probably with good reason) criticizes for being too far to the left of him.

First on CNN: Cheney says he will support Trump
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/06/politics/ ... ald-trump/

It would be interesting - but I doubt surprising - to see how Clinton supporters would react to a Cheney endorsement of HRC. They'd be thrilled, I expect.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby 82_28 » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:10 pm

I wish some politician would come out and say "you know I realize this is fucked and I'm not helping matters". Here is how it works and why I am a psychopath. . .

I watched Trump on CSPAN give his speech in Denver and boy howdy he is getting even more insane. I watched it for a bit but fell asleep. I will say, listening to him made me physically hurt. No lie. It actually hurt to listen to him. Not feelings hurt or nothing. Fuck these people are disgusting.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby PufPuf93 » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:12 pm

Burnt Hill » Sat Jul 30, 2016 8:32 am wrote:Ahh, you could catch most anyone in unflattering moments, saying stupid things.
Not that there aren't perfectly good reasons to not vote for her.
Sanders was refreshing, but he had an opportunity to go third party and didn't take it.
Who knows how it would have shook out, but it would have been a good start.

We got a black man as President, we are going to get a woman as President.
No need for dissent. :mrgreen:


The election hasn't even happened and I am already in the mode of looking to the next POTUS, hopefully 4 years rather than 8 or 8 plus designated successor.

I might well be dead from age and ills first.

We desperately need a true liberal / social democratic party in the USA.

I probably will croak before identity politics dies a slow death and we are all tan and gender ambiguous per day of the week.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Nordic » Sat Jul 30, 2016 5:19 pm

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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Nordic » Sat Jul 30, 2016 5:22 pm

We desperately need a true liberal / social democratic party in the USA.


We have one. The Green Party is exploding exponentially. May take a few years but getting in now is getting on the ground floor of something good.

People are realizing we have 2 Republican parties now and nothing else.

Nature abhors a vacuum.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby PufPuf93 » Sat Jul 30, 2016 7:35 pm

Nordic » Sat Jul 30, 2016 2:22 pm wrote:
We desperately need a true liberal / social democratic party in the USA.


We have one. The Green Party is exploding exponentially. May take a few years but getting in now is getting on the ground floor of something good.

People are realizing we have 2 Republican parties now and nothing else.

Nature abhors a vacuum.


I look at Hillary Clinton and see Republican as in Richard Nixon in a pantsuit.

My preference is to rid the Democratic party of the neoliberals and neoconservatives.

Folks forget that the neoconservatives came out of the Democratic party.

It will be interesting to see % of Green votes this Fall.

Greens may get mine yet as I won't vote Trump nor Clinton (as in "safe" state of California).
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Nordic » Sun Jul 31, 2016 2:09 am

Overall turnout will probably be a record low.

Green Party turnout will be record high. This year they could shake things up. It will be difficult to ignore but im sure our state media machine will try their best.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Harvey » Sun Jul 31, 2016 3:37 am

Paris strikes astonishing partnership with secret Isis sponsor tied to Hillary Clinton

The Canary, July 29th, 2016

The City of Paris has struck a corporate partnership with French industrial giant, Lafarge, recently accused of secretly sponsoring the Islamic State (Isis or Daesh) for profit.

Documents obtained by several journalistic investigations reveal that Lafarge has paid taxes to the terror group to operate its cement plant in Syria, and even bought Isis oil for years.

Yet according to the campaign group, SumOfUs, Lafarge is the corporate partner and sand provider to the City of Paris for this summer’s Paris-Plages urban beach event. The project run by Office of the Mayor of Paris, Anne Hidalgo, will create artificial beaches along the river Seine in the centre and northeast of Paris.

Lafarge also has close ties to Democrat presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. Apart from being a regular donor to the Clinton Foundation, Clinton herself was a director of Lafarge in the early 1990s, and did legal work for the firm in the 1980s. During her connection to Lafarge, the firm was implicated in facilitating a CIA-backed covert arms export network to Saddam Hussein...

[snip]

...Lafarge leads quite a charmed existence.

Among its earliest benefactors was former First Lady and current presidential hopeful, Hillary Clinton.

From 1990 to 1992, Clinton served on Lafarge’s Board of Directors. Under her tenure, Lafarge’s Ohio subsidiary was caught burning hazardous waste to fuel cement plants. Clinton defended the decision at the time.

Then just before her husband, Bill Clinton, was elected president in 1992, Lafarge was fined $1.8 million by the Environmental Protection Agency for these pollution violations. Hillary Clinton had left the board of Lafarge in spring, just after her husband won the Democrat nomination. A year later, under Bill’s presidency, the Clinton administration reduced Lafarge’s EPA fine to less than $600,000.

In the late 1980s, according to an archived investigative report in the American Spectator, Hillary Clinton was connected to Lafarge when the firm was involved in facilitating CIA support for Saddam Hussein’s secret weapons programme.

The American Spectator report from November 1996 cited sources confirming that Hillary Clinton did legal work for Lafarge in the late 1980s before she became a director. The report also claimed that Lafarge’s US subsidiary:

provided key services for the covert arms export network that supplied Saddam Hussein. To prevent exposure of that secret supply line, and collateral damage to Hillary Clinton – who joined Lafarge board in 1990, just as the arms pipeline was being shut down… the Justice Department was told to bury the investigation… But investigators from other US government agencies who worked on the case say they were ‘waved off’ whenever they got too close to exposing the direct involvement of the intelligence community in the arms export scheme.


Lafarge remains close to the Clintons to this day.

http://www.thecanary.co/2016/07/29/paris...hillary-clinton/
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:12 pm

http://100percentfedup.com/did-wikileaks-get-emails-from-27-year-old-democrat-data-director-who-was-recently-murdered-only-blocks-from-home/

DID WIKILEAKS GET Emails From 27 Year Old Democrat Data Director Who Was Recently MURDERED Only Blocks From Home? [VIDEO]
By 100% FED Up - Jul 31, 2016

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We recently questioned the suspicious murder of 27 year old Democrat Data Director Seth Rich, as he was walking home through his affluent Washington DC neighborhood. He was beaten and shot in the back, but apparently nothing of any value was taken from his body, which would likely mean robbery was not a motive. If robbery wasn’t a motive and the police still have no clues…what exactly was the motive for his brutal murder? In our previous article, we explored the possibility that he may have been about to blow the whistle on voter fraud. Does anyone have an actual tally of the number of people who had ties to the Clintons that ended up dead?

Conspiracy theories continue to surround the murder of Seth Rich. They have reached a new frenzy, especially after the hacking of DNC e-mails led to the resignation of its chairwoman, Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

hillary dws

Rich was beaten, shot and killed early on the morning of July 8 while he was walking home and talking on the phone to his girlfriend. Police have said they haven’t determined if his murder was a botched robbery or something else. The killer or killers appear to have taken nothing from their victim, leaving behind his wallet, watch and phone.

Seth Rich’s parents explain what happened only moments before his death. He was the Voter Expansion Data Director for the DNC. His parents say he was, “Making sure everyone who wanted to vote, had the opportunity”:





DC’s Metropolitan Police Department tells Heat Street on Friday that there are “no updates” in the case. But while information from authorities may be scarce, the Internet has certainly taken Seth Rich’s story to some very dark places — despite no evidence to back up any of the reigning conspiracy theories.

Shortly after the killing, Redditors and social media users were pursuing a “lead” saying that Rich was en route to the FBI that fateful morning, apparently intending to speak to special agents about an “ongoing court case” possibly involving the Clinton family.

Seth Rich reward

More recently, Wikileaks’s thousands of DNC emails and voice mails have piqued Reddit’s interest, with Redditors combing through years of communications looking for any clue to Rich’s murder.

The theory is apparently based on Julian Assange’s recent ITV appearance, where he scoffed at the idea that Russian hackers could be responsible for the data dump, and said that “anyone” within the Democrats’ organization could easily have sent Wikileaks the offending messages.

Given that Rich as a DNC staffer presumably would have had some access to its servers, Reddit is absolutely positive Rich paid the ultimate price for exposing Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the DNC’s crusade against Bernie Sanders. –Heatstreet

Here is the timeline that links murdered 27 Democrat employee, Seth Richard to the Clintons via Reddit:

2007: Seth Rich works on Ben Nelson campaign for Senate as assistant field coordinator https://www.linkedin.com/in/sethrich1

2004-2007: Jane Fleming is Executive Director for Young Democrats of America http://docs.house.gov/meetings/IF/IF17/ ... 130919.pdf

2006: Scott Kleeb is running for Nebraska’s 3rd Congr. Seat, beaten by Republicans due to GWBush visit in the district and robo-calls https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Kleeb

2007: Scott Kleeb marries Jane Fleming Kleeb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Kleeb

2007: Scott is “grassroots” Candidate, should run against Nelson http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lane-huds ... 74236.html

2008: Scott doesn’t run for Ben Nelson’s seat but takes Chuck Hagel’s vacated nomination https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Kleeb

2008: Seth Rich works for Scott Kleeb for Senate https://www.linkedin.com/in/sethrich1

2008: Hillary Loses Bid For President

2009: Scott Kleeb launches Energy Pioneer Solutions https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-kleeb-3335a625

2010: Keystone Pipeline inspired Jane Kleeb (an environmentalist) to found Bold Nebraska in protest http://watchdog.org/99531/bold-nebraska ... ng-corner/ http://docs.house.gov/meetings/IF/IF17/ ... 130919.pdf

2010: Clinton Global Initiative gives innappropriate funds to Energy Pioneer Solutions at the behest of Bill Clinton Energy Pioneer Solutions is owned by Bill’s Friends http://nypost.com/2016/05/13/clinton-ch ... ls-friend/

bill clinton tauber

McMahon, “Energizer” according to Secret Service for the Clintons, is 29% stakeholder. Kleebs, Weiner also stakeholders http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/b ... s-charity/ http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/ ... s-n2162288

What happened to Hillary’s Keystone Pipeline stances? Bold Nebraska got what it wanted, but what did Bill get from Scott?

2014: Clintons push for Voter Expansion Project with DNC http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolit ... on-project

2014: Seth Rich is hired onto Voter Expansion Project in Data Director Role and away from another job at Greenberg Quinlan Rosner https://www.linkedin.com/in/sethrich1 http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... t-you.html

Greenberg Quinlan Rosner is the same firm which advised Bill Clinton for his presidency: https://www.campaignsandelections.com/c ... -in-canada

May 2016: Energy Pioneer Solutions scandal is uncovered, people assume Bill’s just cheating again

June 2016: Jane Kleeb is a Bernie Supporter, and big time. Beats a Hillary supporter for chair of Nebraska DNC, risking Hillary’s delegates http://www.omaha.com/news/nebraska/jane ... 7bf84.html

July 2016: DNC emails obtained by someone with access and hatred towards Hillary-run DNC

July 10: Seth Rich murdered

July 14/15: DNC emails leak

7/25/2016: Julian Assange hints at insider http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/25/julia ... he-leaker/

Weiner has been friends with the clintons since 1976 Weiner is now dead (7/25/2016) http://www.providencejournal.com/news/2 ... f-clintons

Here’s Debbie Wasserman Schultz honoring Seth Rich on House floor:



Watch RT question why the media won’t even mention or explore the very suspicious death of Seth Rich:



Was Seth Rich’s murder somehow tied to the DNC? Is this another death to add to the Clinton body count? Or is this just a case of a guy who is a pretty high level employee of the DNC, who just happens to have access to important voter data walking home in an affluent neighborhood, who was randomly shot in the back and left for dead because…well, just because…?
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Luther Blissett » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:41 pm

Luther Blissett » Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:34 pm wrote:I'm trying to gather a quick bulleted leftist / feminist critique of Hillary Clinton, can anyone let me know any corrections / deletions / additions?

  • world tour for fracking, now proven to release methane up to 105x worse than CO2 over the next 20 years, and poisons the water supplies of indigenous communities and poor people the world over
  • support for the the fascist coup in Honduras which murdered Berta Cáceres
  • support for the invasion of Iraq
  • fighting single mothers and people of color working at Walmart and demanding a living wage and higher standards of living
  • using the term "super predators" at age 49
  • not supporting marriage equality until 2013
  • all of the innocent women and children killed in Syria and Libya
  • the Violent Crime Control Act for which she lobbied Congress
  • slashing welfare
  • support for Paul Kagame, who murdered innocent women, children, and men in Rwanda, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and Uganda
  • ignoring the Rwandan genocide
  • crimes against humanity in Haiti
  • intervened in a pay raise for Haitians (mostly women) of 62 cents per hour
  • arming fighters in Syria
  • supporting the military surge in Iraq before Bush
  • taking mentorship from the genocidal war criminal Henry Kissinger
  • the extrajudicial murder of American child Abdulrahman al-Awlaki while she was Secretary of State
  • support of torture
  • ordering intelligence to spy on high-ranking UN officials
  • originally supporting the Keystone XL Pipeline
  • voting for the Patriot Act and reauthorization
  • original support of the TPP and her 2011 Foreign Policy essay that inspired it
  • bragging that she "successfully campaigned around the world to impose crippling sanctions" on Iran, harming innocent women and children in the process
  • opposition to $15 minimum pay increase
  • has been a member of the Fellowship since 1993
  • Wall Street influence
  • broad use of "money in politics"
  • Robert Kagan and other neo-cons are backing her


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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:34 pm

seemslikeadream » Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:12 pm wrote:
http://100percentfedup.com/did-wikileaks-get-emails-from-27-year-old-democrat-data-director-who-was-recently-murdered-only-blocks-from-home/

DID WIKILEAKS GET Emails From 27 Year Old Democrat Data Director Who Was Recently MURDERED Only Blocks From Home? [VIDEO]
By 100% FED Up - Jul 31, 2016

4.9kShareTweetPlus
We recently questioned the suspicious murder of 27 year old Democrat Data Director Seth Rich, as he was walking home through his affluent Washington DC neighborhood. He was beaten and shot in the back, but apparently nothing of any value was taken from his body, which would likely mean robbery was not a motive. If robbery wasn’t a motive and the police still have no clues…what exactly was the motive for his brutal murder? In our previous article, we explored the possibility that he may have been about to blow the whistle on voter fraud. Does anyone have an actual tally of the number of people who had ties to the Clintons that ended up dead?

Conspiracy theories continue to surround the murder of Seth Rich. They have reached a new frenzy, especially after the hacking of DNC e-mails led to the resignation of its chairwoman, Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

hillary dws

Rich was beaten, shot and killed early on the morning of July 8 while he was walking home and talking on the phone to his girlfriend. Police have said they haven’t determined if his murder was a botched robbery or something else. The killer or killers appear to have taken nothing from their victim, leaving behind his wallet, watch and phone.

Seth Rich’s parents explain what happened only moments before his death. He was the Voter Expansion Data Director for the DNC. His parents say he was, “Making sure everyone who wanted to vote, had the opportunity”:





DC’s Metropolitan Police Department tells Heat Street on Friday that there are “no updates” in the case. But while information from authorities may be scarce, the Internet has certainly taken Seth Rich’s story to some very dark places — despite no evidence to back up any of the reigning conspiracy theories.

Shortly after the killing, Redditors and social media users were pursuing a “lead” saying that Rich was en route to the FBI that fateful morning, apparently intending to speak to special agents about an “ongoing court case” possibly involving the Clinton family.

Seth Rich reward

More recently, Wikileaks’s thousands of DNC emails and voice mails have piqued Reddit’s interest, with Redditors combing through years of communications looking for any clue to Rich’s murder.

The theory is apparently based on Julian Assange’s recent ITV appearance, where he scoffed at the idea that Russian hackers could be responsible for the data dump, and said that “anyone” within the Democrats’ organization could easily have sent Wikileaks the offending messages.

Given that Rich as a DNC staffer presumably would have had some access to its servers, Reddit is absolutely positive Rich paid the ultimate price for exposing Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the DNC’s crusade against Bernie Sanders. –Heatstreet

Here is the timeline that links murdered 27 Democrat employee, Seth Richard to the Clintons via Reddit:

2007: Seth Rich works on Ben Nelson campaign for Senate as assistant field coordinator https://www.linkedin.com/in/sethrich1

2004-2007: Jane Fleming is Executive Director for Young Democrats of America http://docs.house.gov/meetings/IF/IF17/ ... 130919.pdf

2006: Scott Kleeb is running for Nebraska’s 3rd Congr. Seat, beaten by Republicans due to GWBush visit in the district and robo-calls https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Kleeb

2007: Scott Kleeb marries Jane Fleming Kleeb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Kleeb

2007: Scott is “grassroots” Candidate, should run against Nelson http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lane-huds ... 74236.html

2008: Scott doesn’t run for Ben Nelson’s seat but takes Chuck Hagel’s vacated nomination https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Kleeb

2008: Seth Rich works for Scott Kleeb for Senate https://www.linkedin.com/in/sethrich1

2008: Hillary Loses Bid For President

2009: Scott Kleeb launches Energy Pioneer Solutions https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-kleeb-3335a625

2010: Keystone Pipeline inspired Jane Kleeb (an environmentalist) to found Bold Nebraska in protest http://watchdog.org/99531/bold-nebraska ... ng-corner/ http://docs.house.gov/meetings/IF/IF17/ ... 130919.pdf

2010: Clinton Global Initiative gives innappropriate funds to Energy Pioneer Solutions at the behest of Bill Clinton Energy Pioneer Solutions is owned by Bill’s Friends http://nypost.com/2016/05/13/clinton-ch ... ls-friend/

bill clinton tauber

McMahon, “Energizer” according to Secret Service for the Clintons, is 29% stakeholder. Kleebs, Weiner also stakeholders http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/b ... s-charity/ http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/ ... s-n2162288

What happened to Hillary’s Keystone Pipeline stances? Bold Nebraska got what it wanted, but what did Bill get from Scott?

2014: Clintons push for Voter Expansion Project with DNC http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolit ... on-project

2014: Seth Rich is hired onto Voter Expansion Project in Data Director Role and away from another job at Greenberg Quinlan Rosner https://www.linkedin.com/in/sethrich1 http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... t-you.html

Greenberg Quinlan Rosner is the same firm which advised Bill Clinton for his presidency: https://www.campaignsandelections.com/c ... -in-canada

May 2016: Energy Pioneer Solutions scandal is uncovered, people assume Bill’s just cheating again

June 2016: Jane Kleeb is a Bernie Supporter, and big time. Beats a Hillary supporter for chair of Nebraska DNC, risking Hillary’s delegates http://www.omaha.com/news/nebraska/jane ... 7bf84.html

July 2016: DNC emails obtained by someone with access and hatred towards Hillary-run DNC

July 10: Seth Rich murdered

July 14/15: DNC emails leak

7/25/2016: Julian Assange hints at insider http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/25/julia ... he-leaker/

Weiner has been friends with the clintons since 1976 Weiner is now dead (7/25/2016) http://www.providencejournal.com/news/2 ... f-clintons

Here’s Debbie Wasserman Schultz honoring Seth Rich on House floor:



Watch RT question why the media won’t even mention or explore the very suspicious death of Seth Rich:



Was Seth Rich’s murder somehow tied to the DNC? Is this another death to add to the Clinton body count? Or is this just a case of a guy who is a pretty high level employee of the DNC, who just happens to have access to important voter data walking home in an affluent neighborhood, who was randomly shot in the back and left for dead because…well, just because…?


Thanks! This sounds a whole lot more intriguing than the "Russia did it" lazy meme the media's buying lock, stock and barrel.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby JackRiddler » Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:07 pm

They're both Nixon. One personally, the other one as clown show.

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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Elihu » Tue Aug 02, 2016 10:13 am

i'm not f'n with her i'm just not f'n with him
OOOOOooooooooo up to that point i thought they were gonna DO something. all that is worth the price to call oneself a (fill in the blank but in this case) democrat (and live with it). everything written after that is nothing. it is nothing and it counts for nothing.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Luther Blissett » Tue Aug 02, 2016 10:18 am

I have a question about Abdulrahman and Clinton. Is it fair to criticize her in her role as Secretary of State for the extrajudicial targeted assassination of a 16-year old American citizen? It always seems like a big deal to me and I always bring it up in polite company but the reactions I get are strange. Silence, shoegazing, subject change…
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