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Postby 8bitagent » Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:34 am

It's funny that Trump teased at Saudi Arabia being behind 9/11 on the campaign trail, and funding worldwide jihad, when noone should have doubted in the end like all good Republicans
Trump would go back to grovelling at the feet of Saudi Arabia. Even the most progressive of news sites are wondering why Trump would ban people from Muslim countries from coming to the US
when its Saudi Arabia that has primarily been the main funder of global terrorism. And of course, all the many Muslim nations Trump has golf courses, hotels and other buildings in were not on the ban list. In 2006-2007 there was a spike in belief within the conspiracy circles online that Bush and the neocons
were about to invade Iran. But a hot war with Iran and China seems more likely than any time before

seemslikeadream » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:12 pm wrote:what time is it?

Trump and Saudi King Agree to More Military Intervention, Collaboration, Aggression Against Iran
Trump and King Salman planned to create "safe zones" in Syria and Yemen and to address Iran's supposed "destabilizing regional activities."
By Ben Norton / AlterNet January 30, 2017

President Donald Trump and the monarch of the repressive Saudi regime spoke on the phone for more than an hour on Sunday. They agreed to more military intervention, political and economic collaboration, and aggressive action against Iran.

According to a White House statement, "The two leaders reaffirmed the longstanding friendship and strategic partnership between the United States and Saudi Arabia."

The official Saudi Press Agency said Trump and Saudi King Salman agreed on everything they discussed. It reported that the leaders stressed the "depth and strength of the strategic relations between the two countries."

The two planned greater military intervention in the Middle East, and the creation of so-called safe zones in Syria and Yemen. The details of how such zones would be created are not clear, but if they were instituted, it would likely take direct U.S. military involvement.


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Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:10 am

The mission was approved over dinner five days after the presidential inauguration by Trump and his closest advisers, including his son-in-law Jared Kushner and his special adviser and former Breitbart executive Stephen Bannon, as well as defence secretary General Jim Mattis.



Questions mount over botched Yemen raid approved by Trump
US military officials say Trump approved counterterrorism operation without sufficient intelligence or ground support
People walk on the rubble of a house destroyed by an airstrike in Sana’a in Yemen
People walk on the rubble of a house destroyed by an airstrike in Sana’a in Yemen Photograph: Mohamed Al-Sayaghi/Reuters

Ewen MacAskill, Spencer Ackerman and Jason Burke
Thursday 2 February 2017 07.32 EST First published on Thursday 2 February 2017 07.11 EST
The US military has launched an investigation into the scale of civilian casualties in a botched special forces raid against a suspected al-Qaida base in Yemen, the first such mission to be approved by Donald Trump, as questions mount over the operation.

After initially denying there had been any civilian casualties in Sunday’s raid, US Central Command (Centcom), which is responsible for military operations in the Middle East and central Asia, acknowledged some of the dead may have included women and children, though claimed some of the women were armed.


Eight-year-old American girl 'killed in Yemen raid approved by Trump'

A statement said its assessment “seeks to determine if there were any still-undetected civilian casualties in the ferocious firefight.”

The Pentagon has said a US Navy Seal, chief petty officer William Owens, and 14 militants were killed in the raid in al Bayda province. Medics at the scene said about 30 people, including 10 women and children, were killed. Three US special forces were wounded.

The mission was approved over dinner five days after the presidential inauguration by Trump and his closest advisers, including his son-in-law Jared Kushner and his special adviser and former Breitbart executive Stephen Bannon, as well as defence secretary General Jim Mattis.

Both the New York Times and Reuters carried quotes from unnamed military officials that seemed to shift blame for the mission to Trump and his inner team. It would be an extraordinary development for a president, who is commander-in-chief, to be briefed against in such detail.

The briefings suggested that one thing after another went wrong from the start of the mission, with the Yemen villagers seemingly alerted to the impending raid by drones flying lower than usual.

The special forces, apparently lacking full intelligence, were confronted by heavily-fortified positions, including landmines, and faced heavy gunfire from buildings all around during the 50-minute firefight. One of the US planes sent in to help had to be left behind and was deliberately destroyed.

US military officials told Reuters that Trump approved his first covert counterterrorism operation without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations.

The mission had been prepared under the Obama administration but it had not been approved.

The civilian dead included an eight-year-old girl, Nawar al-Awlaki, according to her family, who may have been an US citizen. Her father was al-Qaida propagandist and US citizen Anwar al-Awlaki, who was killed in a September 2011 US drone strike in Yemen.

The Centcom statement said: “A team designated by the operational task force commander has concluded that civilian noncombatants likely were killed in the midst of a firefight during a 29 January raid in Yemen, and that casualties may include children.

“The known possible civilian casualties appear to have been potentially caught up in aerial gunfire that was called in to assist US forces in contact against a determined enemy that included armed women firing from prepared fighting positions and US special operations members receiving fire from all sides, including from houses and other buildings.”

Centcom insisted the raid resulted in the seizure of material and information that is providing valuable intelligence.

US Air Force colonel John Thomas said: “Al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula has a horrifying history of hiding women and children within militant operating areas and terrorist camps, and continuously shows a callous disregard for innocent lives. That’s what makes cases like these so especially tragic.”

US military officials told Reuters the special forces team called in Marine helicopter gunships and Harrier jump jets, and then two MV-22 Osprey vertical takeoff and landing aircraft to extract them.

One of the two suffered engine failure, two of the officials said, and hit the ground so hard that two crew members were injured, and one of the Marine jets had to launch a precision-guided bomb to destroy it.
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On to Iran...on to China....on to Mexico...on to Australia !!!!!!!


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Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:35 pm

Who's to Blame For the Disaster in Yemen?
KEVIN DRUMFEB. 2, 2017 1:35 AM

The raid in Yemen that went pear shaped on Saturday was originally planned under the Obama administration. However, they were unable to complete their detailed assessment before Obama left office. Then Trump and his team took over and—apparently—decided to speed things up:

Mr. Trump’s new national security team, led by Mr. Flynn, the former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency and a retired general with experience in counterterrorism raids, has said that it wants to speed the decision-making when it comes to such strikes, delegating more power to lower-level officials so that the military may respond more quickly. Indeed, the Pentagon is drafting such plans to accelerate activities against the Qaeda branch in Yemen.

That's the New York Times. Here's the Washington Post on the same subject:

“We expect an easier approval cycle [for operations] under this administration,” another defense official said...“We really struggled with getting the [Obama] White House comfortable with getting boots on the ground in Yemen,” the former official said. “Since the new administration has come in, the approvals [at the Pentagon] appear to have gone up.”

And here is Reuters:

U.S. military officials told Reuters that Trump approved his first covert counterterrorism operation without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations. As a result, three officials said, the attacking SEAL team found itself dropping onto a reinforced al Qaeda base defended by landmines, snipers, and a larger than expected contingent of heavily armed Islamist extremists.

Reading between the lines, Trump figured that Obama was a wuss and spent too much time over-litigating this stuff. He wanted action, so he approved the mission. It went badly, and now military officials are blaming Trump, telling reporters that he went ahead "without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations."

Is that really what happened? Or is the Pentagon throwing Trump under the bus for a failure that's their fault? I suppose we might find out if Congress decided to investigate, but that would be out of character for them. After all, Congress rarely spends its time holding contentious hearings about missions in dangerous parts of the world that go south and get people killed. I can't think of one recently, anyway.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:18 pm

CBS/AP February 2, 2017, 10:50 AM
U.S. reportedly still hammering Yemen militants after deadly raid
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-yemen-al ... hi-rebels/


Trump's deadly first counterterrorism raid in Yemen had inadequate intel, ground support, military officials say
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Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:44 pm

Don’t be fooled by President Trump’s ‘Apprentice’ prayer — our leader is a religious fanatic who will destroy our nation

President Trump said his faith “lives on my heart every day.” (EVAN VUCCI/AP)
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Thursday, February 2, 2017, 12:13 PM
Donald Trump has been destroying every institution in Washington, but he blew his first chance to stick a drainpipe in that town’s ultimate swamp: its twisted, sick, self-righteous relationship with religion.

And he had started off so well!

In case you missed it, Trump opened Thursday’s annual National Prayer Breakfast with the ultimate “F- you” to the God-political complex — mocking the very notion of faith by calling upon congregants to pray for the ratings of “Celebrity Apprentice” host Arnold Schwarzenegger.


“When I ran for president I knew I had to leave the show,” Trump said. “And they hired a big, big movie star Arnold Schwarzenegger to take my place, and we know how that turned out. Ratings went right down the tubes, it’s been a total disaster, and [producer] Mark [Burnett] will never, ever bet against Trump again. And I want to just pray for Arnold if we can, for those ratings.”

For a second it looked like someone finally had the guts to use the National Prayer Breakfast to call for prayer for something important!

Then President Trump ruined it. Instead of continuing this line of attack — “Oh, and can we also pray for Rosie O’Donnell? So sad what she’s become. So sad” — Trump switched gears to champion religion and put it at the center of public life.

As a Senator, Lyndon Johnson was smart enough to block tax-exempt organizations like religions from using their government subsidy to influence elections. Trump hopes to change that 1950s law.
As a Senator, Lyndon Johnson was smart enough to block tax-exempt organizations like religions from using their government subsidy to influence elections. Trump hopes to change that 1950s law. (ED KOLENOVSKY/AP)
“America,” he said, “is a nation of believers.” Our happiness as people, he added, is defined “by our spiritual success.”

“Freedom,” he said, “is a gift from God.”

That kind of religious red meat has always bothered me in the public sphere. Lest we forget: Our freedom comes from the Constitution only. It's the document President Trump swore (ironically, on two Bibles!) to uphold. But Trump clearly has no intention of doing so, as he said on Thursday:

“Among those freedoms,” he added, “is the right to worship according to our own beliefs. That is why I will get rid of, and totally destroy, the Johnson Amendment and allow our representatives of faith to speak freely and without fear of retribution. I will do that. Remember.”

Many in the crowd were still so stunned by the call to pray for The Terminator, that they failed to understand the implication of that sentence: President Trump is calling for the termination of our democracy.

OK, Arnold Schwarzenegger’s ratings on “The New Celebrity Apprentice" have been low, but are they worthy of prayer? (PAUL DRINKWATER/AP)
The Johnson Amendment, after all, forbids tax-exempt institutions like churches, synagogues, mosques and other 501(c)(3) charities from political campaigning.

The rule is clear: A group that is exempt from paying taxes — and whose supporters get tax deductions for donations — can’t also advocate for candidates or political causes.

This is not a First Amendment issue. It’s a tax issue: You can’t accept a government subsidy and then protest the government.

In other words, the government isn’t going to pay for the Catholic Church’s free speech.

Studies show that the vast majority of Americans support the rule — there is no swamp to drain here — yet Trump is set on repealing it.

President Trump opened his speech with a call for America to pray for Arnold Schwarzenegger. (EVAN VUCCI/AP)
So don’t be fooled by President Trump’s joke about Arnold Schwarzenegger. His prayer breakfast rants are just the latest evidence that we have elected a religious fanatic who cares nothing about the separation of church and state.

Remember the parade of six god-pushers that offered up prayers at Trump’s inauguration? Those words gave way to actions that are tightening the religious noose on our country: Inevitable Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch once sided with an art supply store in its efforts to use its owners religious faith to avoid its legal responsibility to pay for its employees’ contraception.

Trump also put Creationism-believing Jerry Falwell Jr. in charge of a national education panel.

And the President is drafting an executive order that will basically allow religious people to claim the legal right to discriminate against other people. The order is called “Establishing a Government-Wide Initiative to Respect Religious Freedom.”

This comes after the President banned Muslim refugees from the Syria civil war, but allowed in Christian refugees — a blatant form of religious fanaticism masquerading as public policy.

Yes, Donald Trump, the a-religious, falsely pious lowlife whom the Washington Post once beautifully described as “unapologetically crude,” has found religion.

I don’t believe in God, but I pray He helps us all.
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Donald Trump Declares a Vision of Religious Nationalism
At the annual prayer breakfast in Washington, the president focused on the violent, ideological threats to America.

EMMA GREEN 11:07 AM ET POLITICS

When Donald Trump looks out on the world, he sees a landscape of potential threats to the United States and its values. “Freedom of religion is a sacred right, but also a right under threat all around us,” the president said at the National Prayer Breakfast on Thursday. “The world is under serious, serious threat in so many different ways,” he went on, “but we’re going to straighten it out. That’s what I do. I fix things.


Why Donald Trump Appeals to Evangelicals

He laid out a vision of what it means to end these threats to United States: Stop terrorism. End the persecution of Middle Eastern Christians. Defend the country’s borders from those who “would exploit that generosity to undermine the values we hold so dear.” Religious Americans also feel threatened within the U.S., he said: “That is why I will get rid of and totally destroy the Johnson Amendment,” a provision of the tax code that prohibits religious leaders and institutions endorsing or opposing political candidates, “and allow our representatives of faith to speak freely and without fear of retribution.” Repealing the Johnson Amendment would theoretically allow houses of worship and religious leaders to openly advocate for political candidates while retaining their tax-exempt status, while also allowing them to funnel religious donations into explicitly political efforts.

Trump is championing an agenda of religious nationalism. Along with key White House staffers like Stephen Bannon, he believes America represents a set of values, rooted in the country’s religious identity. While there’s little evidence that Trump himself is religiously devout, he has benefited from affiliations with largely white evangelical leaders such as Jerry Falwell Jr.

During his speech, Trump argued that America’s religiously grounded values are being attacked—not just through acts of violence, but through ideological erosion. “We will not allow a beachhead of intolerance to spread in our nation,” Trump said on Thursday, seeming to refer to the “radical Islamic extremism” he has emphasized in past speeches. “You look all over the world and see what’s happening.” He will defend these values, he said, because “that’s what people want: one beautiful nation under God.”

America was not always “one nation under God”—at least, not officially. The words “under God” weren’t added to the pledge of allegiance until 1954, during the presidency of Dwight Eisenhower—not coincidentally, the first president to convene the National Prayer Breakfast. Over time, this relatively new tradition has become a mandatory exercise for commanders in chief; and during the breakfast this year, Trump specifically praised Eisenhower for kicking it off.

In many ways, Trump’s vision of religious nationalism is a continuation of Republican presidents before him. In an interview in August, the Princeton University professor Kevin Kruse pointed out that Trump’s religious rhetoric more closely resembles Nixon’s than Eisenhower’s: “He used it to justify the extent of the Vietnam War and Cambodia; he used it to advance all sorts of Silent Majority proposals before Congress,” Kruse told me. “That’s what you see in Trump today: It’s much more of a defensive pushback against people who are seen as outside one nation under God.”


“We have seen unimaginable violence carried out in the name of religion.”

This echoes recent findings of the Pew Research Center on Americans’ sense of their own national identity. While only a third of Americans believe being Christian is a very important part of being American, the numbers are split neatly along party and denominational lines: 43 percent of Republicans were likely to say that’s the case, compared to 29 percent of Democrats, and 57 percent of white evangelical Protestants said the same. Trump’s message seems to be directed toward these groups: He is affirming their sense of the tie between national and religious identity, and pushing back against those who would diminish either of those identities.

And he’s doing this through fear. In his comments at the prayer breakfast, Trump gave a graphic description of Christians being murdered overseas: “They cut off the heads, they drown people in steel cages,” he said. He also spoke “peace-loving Muslims brutalized, victimized, murdered and oppressed by ISIS killers,” and the threats against the Jewish people. He was inclusive in his description of those who are under threat, for the sake of emphasizing the need for fear: “We have seen unimaginable violence carried out in the name of religion,” he said, “acts of wanton abuse of minorities, horrors on a scale that defy description.” The fundamental threat to religious freedom, he said, is terrorism.

While Trump has often spoken about the need for safety and security, his comments at the prayer-breakfast offer a look at the ideological framework beneath that call. Like his Republican predecessors, he has aligned himself with a vision of America that is strong and powerful because of its piety. Against the threat of foreigners, terrorists, and corrupting ideologies, the United States will be one, beautiful nation—and in Trump’s view, that’s only possible under God.
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Postby Luther Blissett » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:46 pm

Have we covered this bullshit yet? No more investigating the most dangerous terrorist threat to this country with the highest body count?

Trump wants less scrutiny on violent white supremacists
Instead, the exclusive focus of a Homeland Security program would be Islamic extremism.

Three days after a white nationalist with an affinity for Trump killed six while shooting up a mosque in Canada, Reuters reports that the Trump administration wants a federal counter-terrorism program to stop focusing on violent white supremacists and any other extremist groups not comprised of Muslims.

“Such a change would reflect Trump’s election campaign rhetoric and criticism of former President Barack Obama for being weak in the fight against Islamic State and for refusing to use the phrase ‘radical Islam’ in describing it,” Reuters reports.

The federal program the Trump administration is reportedly considering changing is called “Countering Violent Extremism” (CVE). It “aims to deter groups or potential lone attackers through community partnerships and educational programs or counter-messaging campaigns in cooperation with companies,” Reuters reports. But if the changes being considered are implemented, it “would no longer target groups such as white supremacists who have also carried out bombings and shootings in the United States.”

A study published in 2015 found that people in America are seven times as likely to be killed by a right-wing extremist than a Muslim attacker. Recent mass shootings in the U.S. like the murder of nine African American worshippers at the historically black Emanuel A.M.E. Church in Charleston in June 2015 and the murder of three people at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs a few months later were committed by white non-Muslim men and linked to extremist ideologies.

An administration rife with anti-Islam sentiment
Last Friday, Trump signed an executive order banning residents of seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the U.S. and ending Syrian refugee resettlement indefinitely. The order singles out Muslims by specifically directing the Secretary of Homeland Security to “prioritize refugee claims made by individuals on the basis of religious-based persecution, provided that the religion of the individual is a minority religion in the individual’s country of nationality” when refugee resettlement is resumed.

People in the impacted countries haven’t been particularly linked with extremism. As the Wall Street Journal reports, of the 161 people charged with jihadist terrorism-related crimes or who died before being charged since 2001, only 11 were identified as being from the seven countries included in Trump’s executive order — Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Yemen, Sudan, and Somalia.

During the White House press conference earlier Wednesday, National Security Adviser Michael Flynn read a statement “officially putting Iran on notice” because the country test-fired a missile. Flynn was appointed by Trump despite tweeting on separate occasions last year that “Fear of Muslims is RATIONAL” and daring “Arab & Persian world ‘leaders’ to step up to the plate and declare their Islamic ideology sick and must B healed.”

At that same news conference, Press Secretary Sean Spicer refused to condemn newly-revealed Islamophobic remarks made by top Trump adviser Steve Bannon.

“Islam is not a religion of peace. Islam is a religion of submission. Islam means submission,” Bannon, who has a long history of making similar remarks, said on an online right-wing radio station in 2010.

Islamophobia was a centerpiece of Trump’s presidential campaign. In the infamous December 2015 statement where he initially called for a Muslim ban, Trump cited debunked research and claimed, “there is great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population.”

The lone suspect in the Canadian mosque shooting is Alexandre Bissonnette, a student at the nearby Laval University whose Facebook “likes” include far-right french nationalist Marine Le Pen and Trump. A former classmate told a local publication that Bissonnette was pro-Trump and anti-immigration.

But Fox News initially reported the attacker “was of Moroccan origin.” (The man was later determined to be a witness.) And during the White House press briefing on Monday, Spicer cited the mosque shooting as a justification of Trump’s Muslim ban.
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Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:35 pm

EXCLUSIVE: Trump's Supreme Court pick Neil Gorsuch founded and led club called 'Fascism Forever' against liberal faculty at his elite all-boys DC prep school

President Trump's nominee for the Supreme Court vacancy left by Antonin Scalia is Neil Gorsuch
DailyMail.com reveals how Gorsuch set up club called 'Fascism Forever' at his prep school outside D.C. in protest at staff's left-wing tendencies
Gorsuch's club was revealed in high school yearbook which also featured him reading classic conservative text
Father of two, 49, prayed with president and Scalia's son, a Catholic priest, before being named as nominee on Tuesday night


By Alana Goodman For Dailymail.com

Published: 22:05 EST, 1 February 2017

Supreme Court Justice nominee Neil Gorsuch founded and led a student group called the ‘Fascism Forever Club’ at his elite high school, DailyMail.com can reveal.

The club was set up to rally against the ‘left-wing tendencies’ of his professors while attending a Jesuit all-boys preparatory high school near Washington D.C.

The name may be inconvenient for a Supreme Court nominee facing a tough confirmation battle. However it also shows the depth of Gorscuch’s right-wing credentials – and his penchant for mischief while attending his exclusive prep school in the 1980s.

President Donald Trump nominated Gorsuch, a 49-year-old U.S. appellate judge, to replace the late Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia on Tuesday.

Gorsuch founded the ‘Fascism Forever Club’ during his freshman year at Georgetown Preparatory, a now-$30,000-a-year private Jesuit school that is one of the most selective in the United States.

He served as president until he graduated in 1985, according to his senior yearbook.

The yearbook described the ‘Fascism Forever Club’ as an anti-faculty student group that battled against the 'liberal' views of the school administration.

‘In political circles, our tireless President Gorsuch’s “Fascism Forever Club” happily jerked its knees against the increasingly “left-wing” tendencies of the faculty,’ said the yearbook.

It is not the only example of Gorsuch’s early conservative political views. One yearbook photo showed the high school senior kicking back in a chair in a button-down shirt and tie while reading William F. Buckley’s 1959 book ‘Up from Liberalism', a key text of the conservative movement.

Another photo shows Gorsuch leaning over a railing with his tie undone while sticking his tongue out at the camera.

He listed his other student activities as ‘President of the Yard, Student Government’ and ‘Lousy Spanish Student.’ He said he was also president of a group called the ‘Committee to reform The Beast.’

His senior quote was: ‘I am not an alkie; I never wrote a debate case!’

Gorsuch is shown in another senior photo waving his hand mid-speech outside one of the campus buildings while wearing a blue and black tie. In another, he is pictured at the bottom of a six-boy pyramid while balancing another student on his shoulders.

Georgetown Preparatory is one of the top all-boys prep schools in the United States. Former students include Sen. Chris Dodd, a handful of U.S. congressmen, and multiple members of the Kennedy family. Current tuition is $30,000 a year for day students and $50,000 a year for boarding students.

At 49 years old, Gorsuch would be the youngest nominee to the Supreme Court in 25 years. He currently lives in Boulder, Colorado with his wife, Marie Louise.

Gorsuch’s conservative credentials are well-established and he was included on a list of potential Supreme Court picks approved by the Heritage Foundation. His nomination to the Supreme Court by President Donald Trump has been praised by prominent right-leaning groups, from the Faith and Freedom Coalition to the National Rifle Association. Ralph Reed, founder of the Faith and Freedom Coalition

But it has also drawn criticism from top Democrats who vowed to oppose his nomination.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren has already said she will object to Gorsuch’s appointment, saying he was chosen ‘by far right activist groups that were financed by big business interests.’

Rep. Nancy Pelosi called Gorsuch ‘well outside the mainstream of American legal thought’ and Sen. Bernie Sanders said the nominee will have to ‘explain his hostility to women's rights, support of corporations over workers and opposition to campaign finance reform.’

Gorsuch is not the first Republican presidential appointment in his family. His mother, Anne Gorsuch, was appointed as Environmental Protection Agency administrators by President Ronald Reagan in 1981.

While at the agency, Anne Gorsuch oversaw massive budget cuts at the EPA and attempted rollbacks of the Clean Air Act.

She was also reportedly quite glamorous – the Washington Post described her as a woman with ‘television-star looks and perfect manicures’ who ‘wore fur coats and smoked two packs of Marlboros a day.’

Anne Gorsuch came under fire for her conservative policies, and served for just two years before resigning after clashing with congress over subpoenaed records.


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Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:13 pm

JackRiddler » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:37 pm wrote:It was the common view outside Germany by far when it happened, it was the position of the IMT prosecution in 1946, and it was consensus among scholars until the late 50s, then it was attacked and gradually eroded to favor among scholars for lone-perpetrator theory over the decades. New research from the 90s forward has brought back the original idea as majority view in the scholarship. So "generally" always and among historians "once again."

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82_28 » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:12 pm wrote:Damn. I wish I still had my copy. Argh. Always loaning or giving shit out.


It's a damn good scholarly book and a damn shame that after the late 50s (The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William L. Shirer was published first in 1959) his stance on the Reichstag fire was eroded (coinciding with other 'lone-perpetrator' attacks like JFK, MLK, RFK, X) in the historian community. Thanks for pointing that out, Jack.

I'm crossposting to the Trumpstag thread because I think it's pertinent, but here's the relevant section from Shirer, pages 192-193:

The whole truth about the Reichstag fire will probably never be known. Nearly all those who knew it are now dead, most of them slain by Hitler in the months that followed. Even at Nuremberg the mystery could not be entirely unraveled, though there is enough evidence to establish beyond a reasonable doubt that it was the Nazis who planned the arson and carried it out for their own political ends.

From Goering's Reichstag President's Palace an underground passage, built to carry the central heating system, ran to the Reichstag building. Through this tunnel Karl Ernst, a former hotel bellhop who had become the Berlin S.A. leader, led a small detachment of storm troopers on the night of February 27 to the Reichstag, where they scattered gasoline and self-igniting chemicals and then made their way quickly back to the palace the way they had come. At the same time a half-witted Dutch Communist with a passion for arson, Marinus van der Lubbe, has made his way into the huge, darkened and to him unfamiliar building and set some small fires of his own. This feeble-minded pyromaniac was a godsend to the Nazis. He had been picked up by the S.A. a few days before after having been overheard in a bar boasting that he had attempted to set fire to several buildings and that he was going to try the Reichstag next.

The coincidence that the Nazis had found a demented Communist arsonist who was out to do exactly what they themselves had determined to do seems incredible but is nevertheless supported by the evidence. The idea for the fire almost certainly originated with Goebbels and Goering. Hans Gisevius, an official in the Prussian Ministry of the Interior at the time, testified at Nuremberg that "it was Goebbels who first thought of setting the Reichstag on fire," and Rudolf Diels, the Gestapo chief, added in an affidavit that "Goering knew exactly how the fire was to be started" and had ordered him "to prepare, prior to the fire, a list of people who were to be arrested immediately after it." General Franz Halder, Chief of the German General Staff during the early part of World War II, recalled at Nuremberg how on one occasion Goering had boasted of his deed.

At a luncheon on the birthday of the Fuehrer in 1942 the conversation turned to the topic of the Reichstag building and its artistic value. I heard with my own ears when Goering interrupted the conversation and shouted: "The only one who really knows about the Reichstag is I, because I set it on fire!" With that he slapped his thigh with the flat of his hand.*

Van der Lubbe, it seems clear, was a dupe of the Nazis. He was encouraged to try to set the Reichstag on fire. But the main job was to be done - without his knowledge, of course - by the storm troopers. Indeed, it was established at the subsequent trial at Leipzig that the Dutch half-wit did not possess the means to set so vast a building on fire so quickly. Two and a half minutes after he entered, the great central hall was fiercely burning. He had only his shirt for tinder. The main fires, according the testimony of experts at the trial, had been set with considerable quantities of chemicals and gasoline. It was obvious that one man could not have carried them into the building, nor would it have been possible for him to start so many fires in so many scattered places in so short a time.

*Both in his interrogations and at his trial at Nuremberg, Goering denied to the last that he had had any part in setting fire to the Reichstag.




On a side note, but more relevant to the original thread topic: Who is the leaker? Who is leaking from the White House about the cabal? My guess is either Jared Kushner or Mike Pence, but I'm leaning heavily toward Pence as I think he's got the greater motive.
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Israeli firm that imprisons Gaza aims to build Trump’s wall with Mexico

Ali Abunimah Rights and Accountability 1 February 2017


Relatives separated by deportation and immigration hug at the border during a reunification event named “#Hugs Not Walls” at the banks of the Rio Bravo river, a natural border between the US and Mexico, 28 January. Jose Luis Gonzalez Reuters
A firm that has helped isolate Gaza from the outside world is hoping for a windfall building President Donald Trump’s wall on the US-Mexico border.

Ironically, the firm already does a lot of business with Mexico’s own government.

Shares of Israel’s Magal Security Systems, which also helped build Israel’s illegal barrier in the occupied West Bank, surged following Trump’s election victory last November.

During the campaign, Magal touted its experience caging Palestinians as the ideal credentials to build the wall that Trump repeatedly promised during his campaign and which has united Mexicans in opposition.

In recent decades, increasing US militarization of its southern border has torn apart communities on both sides, including indigenous communities that long predate the existence of the United States.

Gaza “has become a key sales prop for Magal’s ‘smart fences,’” the financial news agency Bloomberg reported in August.

Besieging Gaza
Two million Palestinians live in the besieged territory, cut off from the outside world by Israeli restrictions that are devastating their economy and depriving them of access to life-saving treatment.

Almost two dozen Palestinians have been killed near the boundary fence since late 2015, usually while demonstrating against the siege.

One of them was Abd al-Rahman Ahmad al-Dabbagh, 16, who was hit with an Israeli army flare that set his head on fire, last September.

Magal also operates in a number of Israeli settlements – illegal under international law – in the occupied West Bank, according to the research group Who Profits.

Like other firms that profit from Israeli occupation, colonization and human rights abuses, Magal CEO Saar Koursh touts his products as “battle-proven.”

Since Trump took office last month, Magal has pushed for business building his wall.

In addition to helping besiege Gaza, Magal markets its role as a major contractor on Israel’s separation barrier in the occupied West Bank that was declared illegal by the International Court of Justice in 2004.

According to The Financial Times, Magal’s customers already include the US Department of Defense, the Secret Service and the Munich airport in Germany.

Mexico’s military has also contracted with Magal.

Magal currently lists the Mexican government, police, prisons, banks, ports, power plants and municipalities among its clients.

It also provides security systems for NATO military camps. Last month, Magal won a contract with the African Cup of Nations Games soccer championship, something it has done previously.

Magal owns a Canadian subsidiary, Senstar, which recently acquired another Canadian firm, electronic surveillance company Aimetis.

Profiting from chaos
Magal has also been pitching to build a 425-mile barrier along Kenya’s border with Somalia.

Somalia is one of the seven Muslim-majority countries whose citizens are targeted by Trump’s executive order restricting entry to the United States.

Like most of the countries on that list, Somalia has been the target of intense US military involvement, including arms shipments that have helped fuel war.

Weapons the Obama administration sent to Ugandan and Burundian troops who are part of an African Union force propping up Somalia’s US-backed government, have ended up in the hands of al-Shabab and other armed groups the fence is supposed to repel.

But for Magal CEO Koursh, such mayhem is a potential boon for profits. “The border business was down, but then came ISIS and the Syrian conflict,” Koursh told Bloomberg, using an acronym for the group also known as ISIL or Islamic State. “The world is changing and borders are coming back big-time.”

The business opportunities for Israeli firms may be one reason why Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had no qualms sparking a diplomatic crisis with Mexico last week by warmly endorsing Trump’s wall.

And Trump himself has cited Israel’s walls as an inspiration.

Another Israeli arms maker, Elbit Systems, was already awarded a $145-million contract by the Obama administration for surveillance equipment along the US-Mexico frontier.

But what about Trump’s pledge in his inauguration speech that from now on the US would “buy American and hire American”?

That is easily circumvented, as Israeli firms can bid for US contracts through American subsidiaries.

“We would join forces with a major US defense company that has experience with such projects worldwide,” Magal’s Koursh told Bloomberg.
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Distrust in Trump’s White House spurs leaks, confusion
‘Trying to nail down who the leakers are is like trying to count the cockroaches under the couch,’ one longtime Trump adviser says.
By JOSH DAWSEY, TARA PALMERI, ELI STOKOLS and SHANE GOLDMACHER 02/02/17 01:43 PM EST

A feeling of distrust has taken hold in the West Wing of Donald Trump's White House and beyond, as his aides view each other and officials across the federal government and on Capitol Hill with suspicion.

The result has been a stream of leaks flowing from the White House and federal agencies, and an attempt to lock down information and communication channels that could have serious consequences across the government and at the Capitol, where Trump tries to implement and advance his agenda.

In the White House itself, one top aide tried to take the office slated for another aide, Steve Bannon is looking to hire his own PR guru, and the details of Trump’s calls with foreign leaders, typically closely held, are suddenly out in the open.

The starkest manifestation of the paranoia has played out with Trump's executive orders, as many key players were left in the dark as the White House forged ahead with sweeping, controversial policies.

While reports have emerged in recent days about various officials blindsided by the orders, interviews with several people involved in the process reveal the extent of the secrecy and chaos. The highly controversial immigration and travel ban signed by Trump last Friday was so tightly held that White House aides, top Cabinet officials, Republican leaders on Capitol Hill and other Trump allies had no idea what was in it even when it was signed — and that was just how top advisers and aides wanted it.

"Someone would have leaked it," one administration official said.

As Trump and his aides try to crack down on the leaks by limiting the information flow inside and outside the White House, there is concern they could go too far.

Officials at the National Archives are meeting with Trump's staff on Thursday to make sure they understand retention rules, according to a person familiar with the meeting. They want to ensure the administration is hewing to the rules laid out in the 1978 Presidential Records Act, which mandates the preservation of all presidential documents.

Whether the chaos will actually hurt the president remains unclear. Trump's pick of Judge Neil Gorsuch to be his Supreme Court nominee has heartened conservatives, and many say they are willing to look past the drama of the Trump orbit if he passes the kind of conservative policies they want. Lanhee Chen, a former top aide to Mitt Romney, said his supporters would label his presidency a "huge victory because they see a president who looks like he's following through."

Some Trump aides and advisers say the tension is overblown. White House press secretary Sean Spicer has said people who "needed to know" about the orders were told about them. White House chief of staff Reince Priebus has tried to instill a certain amount of discipline in the White House and has stacked the West Wing with Republican Party loyalists who hew to orthodox Republican politics and norms.

Still, Steve Schmidt, a GOP strategist, said his supporters "voted for change, not for chaos." And longtime government observers say the trust issues are likely to hobble the government.

Senior Trump aides say they don't trust the agencies because they believe they are stacked with Democrats and people loyal to former President Barack Obama. "Every time something got to one of the agencies, it got out," one person said about various memos that were sent during the transition.

Until the agencies are filled with Trump people, the agencies are unlikely to get information quickly, several people involved in the administration say. Agency officials have been specifically directed to not tell others outside Trump world about their plans, people with knowledge of the conversations say. "They are really limiting their contact with us," one longtime government employee said.

Agency staff say the White House's unwillingness to share information is also causing issues because it is difficult to implement their executive orders or policies or study effectiveness unless the contents are known in advance. For instance, officials at the Department of Homeland Security say they could have better prepared for the travel ban had they not learned about the restrictions in real time. Instead, foreign travelers were left in limbo for hours at airports and were given conflicting information about their entry into the United States, as protests raged outside.

State Department officials, meanwhile, likely would have flagged problems in the executive order on reversing the decision on the Keystone and Dakota Access pipelines. Experts say the order was flawed because it involved a company in the middle of suing the government.

It’s not just the agencies who feel left in the dark and distrusted by Trump’s White House. Capitol Hill leaders say they are trying to find "back channels" with policy experts and others to discern what the White House is doing. Last week, aides in House Speaker Paul Ryan's office tried to find out about the immigration order but couldn't.

"We'd hear a little bit of it," one senior GOP aide said. "We kind of knew it was out there, but we couldn't figure out exactly what they were going to say, and when they were going to say it."

They learned on TV, and "then we spent all weekend trying to clean up their mess," one person said. It took almost 36 hours after the ban was announced for the White House to send talking points. Had they sent the talking points earlier, and trusted others, surrogates could have helped them defend their policy, several top GOP aides said.

“Had they given a grace period, had they run the proper legal traps, I don't think this would have looked much different than the Obama order on Iraqi refugees aside from Trump going out of his way to still provoke a reaction," said a senior national security adviser to one GOP senator.

One GOP aide said the administration has tried to do better in the past few days, even sending aides to Capitol Hill for daily briefings. Ryan met with Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law and influential adviser on Wednesday night. And White House officials have vowed to provide more information on executive orders to the Hill, one aide said. Senior aides said they want to help Trump if the administration will let them, but that the administration doesn't seem to trust them.

Inside the White House, several Trump staffers said they were shocked at the number of leaks coming out of the operation having not worked in the Trump orbit before. "People are just knifing each other," one of these people said.

"Trying to nail down who the leakers are is like trying to count the cockroaches under the couch," said Michael Caputo, a longtime Trump adviser who keeps in touch with some Trump aides.

More leaks sprung up in the past 24 hours, as reports emerged that Trump made provocative statements to Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto and Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull during phone calls with the foreign allies in recent days. According to a leaked transcript of his call with Peña Nieto, Trump threatened to send U.S. troops to stop "bad hombres down there" unless the Mexican military stepped up to control their domestic problems. On the Australia call, Trump reportedly blasted Turnbull for pushing the U.S. to honor an agreement to accept 1,250 refugees from an Australian detention center and then abruptly cut off the phone call.

While articles popped up about dismay within the White House at some of these calls, Trump’s counselor, Kellyanne Conway, insisted on Thursday morning that the leaks aren’t coming from inside 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

“Obviously, we're not commenting on private conversations in that way. We give a readout to the media on most conversations but we don't release transcripts and we certainly don't mischaracterize them as some others have. This is the practice for us though. We're the ones not leaking,” she told Fox News.

Despite the attempts to project a functional, harmonious White House, sources say it’s far from that. People involved in the administration sometimes don't trust each other because there are several camps that remain warring factions. Top Trump aides often travel with him to events they don't necessarily need to attend because they want to be close to the power center and in the pictures.

Steve Bannon — who has a loyal cadre of aides and allies, like Stephen Miller, the White House top policy adviser — has been expanding his power base in the White House. Two sources said Bannon is looking to bring in his own PR adviser, Alexandra Preate, into the White House. Preate has previously served as both Bannon’s spokeswoman and a spokeswoman for Breitbart News. He’s also hired Breitbart immigration writer Julia Hahn and former Breitbart national security editor Seb Gorka, among others, bringing them into policy roles.

Other Trump staffers have been chafing at what they view as Miller and Bannon’s secretive behavior, including their tendency to keep information from others in the White House, like on their executive orders.

The paranoia in the White House is also driven by the fact that no one is quite sure who is up and who is down, and who is on their side. One person involved in the administration described the conflict like this: "There are four chiefs of staff, and that's three too many."

In the past week, memorandums have leaked, trickling out from agencies, that the White House has denied were official documents. The White House has denied the documents, but dozens are floating around, and even senior officials sometimes say they have no idea if a document will be signed.

Sometimes, executive orders are canceled at the last minute, or added at the last minute, or changed at the last minute, with little explanation as to why to others.

And the power silos may get worse. Bannon and Kushner, who has stoked envy among others because of his enormous clout with the president, are creating their own separate group in the White House to create strategy.

Meanwhile, Priebus has stacked much of the West Wing with Republican aides from his time as chairman of the Republican National Committee. And he controls much of the hiring across the government. But that often means little in Trump world, because the president will make a decision based on one conversation. He will tell several people he wants them to handle an issue, creating competition.

Priebus aides and allies are wary of aides like Miller, who they believe give the president bad information and then Trump "takes it in, every bit of it, and that's just not good," one person said. Yet Miller himself was caught off guard when "Morning Joe" host Joe Scarborough on Monday launched into a broadside on his conduct and wondered what, or who, sparked the host to blame him, a person familiar with the issue said.

Conway, Trump’s final campaign manager who initially resisted a White House role, has repeatedly referenced Valerie Jarrett and their parallel roles to show her influence on the president. She irked others last week when several long profiles of her emerged in the news media, including one that called her the "face of the movement." A number of people close to Trump's orbit say Conway has been a little on the outside since the team moved to Washington, but Conway’s supporters note other men have also had flattering profiles, and the president continues to like and trust her.

"If you see me on TV, it's because the president wants me there," Conway recently told The Hollywood Reporter. A Conway friend said the grumbling was "ridiculous misogyny."

And Anthony Scaramucci, a Trump fundraiser who was expected to join the White House but now is unlikely to do so, has aligned himself with Bannon. People close to Scaramucci say the Wall Street executive believes Priebus or his allies are trying to damage him with bad stories in the news media, including about the ethics around the divestitures of his vast wealth. Priebus allies say that isn't true, but the stories have continued to come out with leaks about his controversial business transaction. Scaramucci has told people this is "a tough town," one person familiar with his comments said.

While he was in New York, Omarosa Manigault, another Trump aide, sought to take his office with a better view of the Washington Monument, according to people familiar with her move. Manigault now may get the office, since Scaramucci is now not expected to join the administration.

Roger Stone, a longtime Trump confidant, said Trump would be largely unconcerned with all of the gossip. "He is not going to stop being Trump. He doesn't mind all the chaos," Stone said.

Stone said there might be a "burnout rate" of working with Trump. "And if his first team isn't getting the job done, if it's not coming together, he's perfectly capable of changing teams. You saw him do it three times during the campaign."

Bryan Bender contributed to this report.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/t ... aks-234550



President Trump and his staff are distrustful of each other and everyone else in the government
After a slew of leaks came from the White House, the Trump administration is now paranoid about sharing information

President Trump and his staff are distrustful of each other and everyone else in the government
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In President Trump’s first two weeks of office, damaging reports involving White House aides and staffers have steadily emerged from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Embarrassing stories — from the the president’s unhealthy TV diet to his tendency to throw temper tantrums — have been sourced through people reportedly close the president. Now, a longtime Trump adviser has leaked to Politico that the president is paranoid about all the leaks streaming from his office.

“Trying to nail down who the leakers are is like trying to count the cockroaches under the couch,” said Michael Caputo, a longtime adviser of Trump who has stayed in touch with people connected to the president.

Some Trump staffers told Politico that they were shocked by the amount of secrets leaking from the White House. “People are just knifing each other,” one said.

Just in the past day, reports of tense conversations between Trump and the leaders of Mexico and Australia have surfaced. Direct quotes, such as Trump telling Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull that his call was “the worst by far,” have now made international headlines.

Kellyanne Conway, Trump’s senior counselor, told Fox News that no one in the Trump administration is responsible for the leaks.

“Obviously, we’re not commenting on private conversations in that way. We give a readout to the media on most conversations but we don’t release transcripts and we certainly don’t mischaracterize them as some others have. This is the practice for us though. We’re the ones not leaking,” Conway said.

Trump and his team are reportedly distrustful of government bureaucrats, whom they see as loyal to former President Obama. “Every time something got to one of the agencies, it got out,” one person told Politico.

Agency staff reportedly think the White House’s unwillingness to share information is causing implementation problems with the executive orders. The result is an undeniable disconnect between the White House and federal agencies.
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New Reasons To Remember The Lurid Russia Dossier On Trump

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As scandals of varying substance flare up and fade incessantly out of Washington these days, they tend to blur together. The historic and the trivial mix indistinguishably; we swiftly lose sense of what to watch closely. One such story, not easily forgotten, keeps coming to the fore with new revelations – the lurid Donald Trump Russia dossier. Most recently, the action moved to Moscow where Russian security was busy arresting top officials suspected of leaking state secrets to the U.S. Clearly, something got triggered with the release of the dossier and ensuing ruckus - all of which somehow shook out fresh information for the Kremlin to follow up. A number of news reports even suggest that a KGB general found dead in his car, Oleg Erovinkin, was actually rubbed out specifically for playing a part in the Trump dossier leaks.

I don't propose to rehash the dossier's overheated issues: allegations of shenanigans with call-girls, Buzzfeed controversially publishing the raw material or why the FBI kept its inquiry quiet for so long. What no one's pursuing is the fate of the dossier's author, former British intelligence analyst Christopher Steele who suddenly decided to go 'underground' at the peak of the brouhaha. By all accounts a highly intelligent and respected M16 man for decades, he had opened his own private information bureau which is how he came to compile the dossier which ended up in the U.S. As it happens, Steele's switching from one investigative trade to another is not so rare a career move in the UK in recent years. Some 15 years ago, I found myself being informally approached by just such an outfit via a former Brit journalist friend who now worked for a firm of information consultants. The firm's senior staff were ex-M16, officer class types with tailored suits and cool cars. For them private enterprise espionage paid better – as it did for my journo pal – but one sensed that they never fully severed ties with Her Majesty's Government.

Odd to relate, and irritating to me, my friend explicitly didn't want me for assessing or analyzing complex geopolitical issues. He wasn't interested in educated, contextual knowledge of, say, the Middle East or Russia, at least from me. He wanted gossip. He asked only who I knew abroad, who I could offer tidbits on about illicit affairs, debts, vices, personal problems and the like at the highest levels of power. As it happens, I've always abhorred that kind of thing, not least in my own trade of journalism. Weaponizing or commodifying personal gossip has always felt like an activity for occupants of Hades' lowest circles, more a KGB-Stasi thing than a gentlemanly pursuit. So, I demurred stiffly. But I asked him what they did with that kind of hearsay.

He got extremely serious and expatiated on the strict protocols they followed. First, they didn't gather dirt for dirty reasons. Anyone they found to be vulnerable was likely vulnerable to pressure from other bad guys, so it was imperative to identify them up front. Such people could even expose any future probing done by my friend's group. They kept the information confidential, filed away for future reference. Or they might approach a good-guy client alerting them to possible security risks. Then he outlined how his seniors followed a strict two-step procedure; gather and provide the raw information to the client thereby furnishing potential avenues of inquiry, then get the next level contract to verify the gossip. Often, clients chose their own methods of doing the latter. Which is probably what the FBI was up to.

Crucially, they warned the client emphatically that raw data was just that – raw. Unproven. And they protected sources by placing odd scrambling details in the text so the material pointed in all directions away from the source. For those familiar with the Trump file, this may explain the strangely amateurish mistakes of detail.

Now to the heart of the matter: these guys were deeply ensconced in the establishment, deservedly so: patriotic, literate, intellectual, dependable, loyal, and yes actually quite honorable. They didn't, for example, leak dirt to the papers. Or to stray pals. They didn't concoct outrageous scenarios only to disprove them – ultimately that would ruin the firm's legitimacy. The gossip had to be well-sourced and reasonably credible. They didn't play two sides against the middle. And they never took bad guy money whatever the amount. Above all they had backup, from each other and deep inside the state. They didn't fear for their safety on home turf.


Steele knows better. He knows the number of prominent Kremlin opponents in Britain and worldwide found dead from inexplicable causes. Here's a round-up of a few such deaths down the years, and these are just the poisoning cases. Steele would have known in detail about such cases of mysterious deaths, poisoned or otherwise, especially those on his home turf. Even in this list some are forgotten. There's Boris Berezovsky who rather dramatically hanged himself in exile in England – or so it seemed. There's his business partner, Georgian oligarch and long-time Putin foe, Arkady Patrikatsishvili who died of sudden heart failure. There's the brilliant former Finance Minister of Georgia, Kakha Bendukidze, who also died of heart failure in a London hotel just before taking up a top post in Ukraine's government. We got used to dismissing incidents like these as mere coincidence, harder to do now that we know about not just Litvinenko but the others mentioned in the article above. You might argue that they're not Brits – perhaps British authorities don't interfere with Russian in-fighting even in the UK. That way the UK doesn't drive away all the Russian oligarch billions that pour in from various factions, especially the pro-Putin crowd. But there's evidence to suggest that even Brits aren't entirely safe. Here's the lurid and tragic case of gay MI6 man Gareth Williams who was found dead locked up inside a suitcase in his own apartment. A former KGB agent in hiding in Britain claims it was the handiwork of his old colleagues, as the article notes

Finally, we must ask ourselves why Steele would choose to disappear if the dossier contained only laughable fabrications. One can picture him announcing publicly that it was all hearsay as far as he knew, not ready for prime time haha, but very jolly nonetheless, good for a laugh, let others decide. No, it's the likely genuine stuff that darkens the picture, makes the situation serious. Steele knew better than anyone what he had to fear. Abandoning your entire life, your friends, your normal joys and habits is no small decision. That he needed to do so speaks volumes.
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seemslikeadream » Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:18 pm wrote:
CBS/AP February 2, 2017, 10:50 AM
U.S. reportedly still hammering Yemen militants after deadly raid
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-yemen-al ... hi-rebels/


Trump's deadly first counterterrorism raid in Yemen had inadequate intel, ground support, military officials say
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic ... -1.2962081


This is why I dont get the worship of Obama on the anti Trump left. All the bullshit happening is because of Obama continuing the Bush neocon war policies.
The refugee crisis, destabilization, etc. If Obama had a spine and was a real progressive, and opposed the Bush neocon agenda maybe we'd be in a different place

The left excusing Obama's endless trail of dead Muslim bodies, his deportation of over 2 million Latinos and countless other crimes should be noted by the left opposing Trump...who
should have been marching in the street opposing his misdeeds.

The US invaded and destabilized Libya based on lies under Obama, just as Bush did with Iraq. But people forget that Obama led the US to partner with terror sponsoring Saudi Arabia
to commit mass war crimes in Yemen during the last two years.

However, as you mentioned...it is disturbing...the idea of Trump, Bannon, Miller and Kushner having this casual dinner discussing how theyre going to do that ill fated Yemen raid. So much lives lost over two god damn hard drives
Sadly world war seems more possible now than even during the cold war with these nut jobs in power...scary thing is how none of them have any military or intel or political experience. Its as if the 4chan /pol section
was tapped to head the White House and Pentagon
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Postby kool maudit » Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:13 am

The large difference in political outrage levels between, say, January 2015 and now – whether individual or societal – correlates to an implicit endorsement of neoliberal praxis.

It simply doesn't bother people when the leader sounds as s/he should.
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Postby mentalgongfu2 » Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:23 am

The left excusing Obama's endless trail of dead Muslim bodies, his deportation of over 2 million Latinos and countless other crimes should be noted by the left opposing Trump...who
should have been marching in the street opposing his misdeeds.


Yes, they should have. It is lamentable. The hypocrisy of the Democrats in this regard is offensive.

For many, I think it was hard to oppose that aspect of Obama's presidency in light of all the attacks about him being a secret Kenyan Muslim determined to destroy America, aspersions that Michelle was a post-op transgender, and blatant racism, etc.

If anything, the right wing should have embraced him for continuing neocon foreign policy in deed, if not in word. They were equally partisan hypocrites and remain so.

But it's too late to focus on such things. It always winds up in the arena of one Party justifying illegal or immoral acts because the other Party did it too. Two wrongs don't make a right. And failure to oppose yesterday's wrongs don't negate opposing the wrongs of today and tomorrow.
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