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Postby SonicG » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:55 am

82_28 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:49 pm wrote:What if at trump's precendtial dysaguaration some or many in the crowd do the notsee salute? What if? What if?


The Precedented Innoculation ? That would quite rule actually...Everything will be entering what if land from that point anyhow...
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby 82_28 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:50 am

What if they have to resort to signs and security to say YOU ARE NOT FREE to seig heil or wave your arms in any way? Sorry, I've been watching the Man in the High Castle and in some way and in a lot of ways PKD got a lot of this shit right (I read it a long time ago). I do not think he was prognosticating just this but just a what if. . .

Well we are now about to see what this "what if" is all about. I forget where I read it but there are possibly like 90 to 100 or something electors who voted out of their districts or something which is illegal. I have no idea what the fuck that means and I forget where I saw it.

This could get really bad over a protracted period. I don't mean on the day, the week, the month, the year, the decade, but trump has fucked shit up. Think of it. ONE EGO won. There are billions of people on this planet, trillions more lifeforms that this guy has the power to actually kill with no compunction for the past or the future. I say red alert. We must protest meaninglessly the way we have been doing it or change it up.

Always remember trump is a mere figurehead.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:04 pm

CIA director R. James Woolsey abruptly quits Trumps transition team :)

Former CIA director James Woolsey quits Trump transition team
By Philip Rucker January 5 at 7:24 PM
Former CIA director R. James Woolsey Jr., a veteran of four presidential administrations and one of the nation’s leading intelligence experts, resigned Thursday from President-elect Donald Trump’s transition team because of growing tensions over Trump’s vision for intelligence agencies.

Woolsey’s resignation as a Trump senior adviser comes amid frustrations over the incoming administration’s national security plans and Trump’s public comments undermining the intelligence community.

“Effective immediately, Ambassador Woolsey is no longer a Senior Advisor to President-Elect Trump or the Transition. He wishes the President-Elect and his Administration great success in their time in office,” Jonathan Franks, a spokesman for Woolsey, said in a statement.

Woolsey said on CNN Thursday night that he did not want to “fly under false colors” any longer. “I’ve been an adviser and felt that I was making a contribution….. But I’m not really functioning as an adviser anymore. When I’m on the [television] screen, everybody announces that I’m a former CIA director and that I’m a Trump adviser and I’m really not anymore.”

People close to Woolsey said that he had been excluded in recent weeks from discussions on intelligence matters with Trump and retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, the incoming White House national security adviser. They said that Woolsey had grown increasingly uncomfortable lending his name and credibility to the transition team without being consulted. Woolsey was taken aback by this week’s reports that Trump is considering revamping the country’s intelligence framework, said these people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to talk candidly.

“Jim is very uncomfortable being considered an adviser in an area where one might consider him an expert when he is not involved in the discussions,” one person close to Woolsey said. “To be called ‘senior adviser’ and your opinion is not sought is something he cannot handle.”

Trump transition officials did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Woolsey’s resignation.

Woolsey has been a key player in the national security firmament since the late 1970s, when he served as undersecretary of the Navy in the Jimmy Carter administration. He has held other roles under former presidents Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton, culminating with the post as director of the CIA between 1993 and 1995.

The person close to Woolsey described him as having chafed at Trump’s loose style on Twitter. They described Woolsey as a “very principled” diplomat who takes care to communicate the right message with just the right words. “This is a guy [for whom] commas, periods, etc., all have special meaning,” this person said.

Woolsey joined the Trump campaign last September, issuing a statement commending Trump’s plans to grow and modernize the military.

“Mr. Trump understands the magnitude of the threats we face,” he said in the statement.

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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:16 pm

Trump Says U.S. Can Pay for Border Wall, Bill Mexico Later

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INTEL CHIEFS SAY TRUMP’S TWITTER ACCOUNT WAS HACKED BY FOUR-YEAR-OLD
By Andy Borowitz 02:19 P.M.

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—An alarming report issued by heads of the U.S. intelligence agencies on Friday asserts that the Twitter account of President-elect Donald Trump was successfully hacked by a four-year-old child.

Profilers and cryptologists who studied Trump’s Twitter feed believe that the account was first hacked during the 2016 campaign, when the child was three.

“The hacker would often wake up in the middle of the night, in an addled and cranky state, and start tweeting,” an intelligence source said. “This disrupted sleep pattern is consistent with a suspect in the three-to-four-year-old age range.”

N.S.A. analysts who studied the vocabulary, syntax, and spelling of the tweets “determined beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are the work of a preschooler,” the source said.

While the intelligence agencies have yet to determine the identity of the hacker, the source stressed that a four-year-old capable of hacking the President-elect’s Twitter account poses “a serious national-security threat.”

“Based on these tweets, this particular four-year-old has a loose grasp on reality, lacks all impulse control, and is potentially very dangerous.”
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby DrEvil » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:19 pm

I mentioned Alexander Dugin somewhere in this thread as one of Putin's favorite ideologues. Just found his website: http://www.4pt.su/en
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby SonicG » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:40 pm

DrEvil » Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:19 am wrote:I mentioned Alexander Dugin somewhere in this thread as one of Putin's favorite ideologues. Just found his website: http://www.4pt.su/en


Is this the Paleo-Conservative view also?
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Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:47 pm

The Trumponomics con game
Lee Sustar looks at the pro-business agenda behind Donald Trump's economic plan.

January 3, 2017

DONALD TRUMP famously broke with Republican orthodoxy by criticizing free trade deals and promising to champion manufacturing workers, but the core of his economic policy is designed to benefit the billionaires and former generals who dominate his cabinet.

Trump may be able to rev up the U.S. economy through tax cuts and spending on infrastructure and defense. There may even be some reindustrialization of the U.S. economy based on a combination of corporate tax giveaways and political pressure--like the deal to save 800 jobs at a Carrier plant in Indiana.

An elite group around Trump, along with a section of the U.S. capitalist class and current and former Pentagon officials, has concluded that a revival of U.S. manufacturing is necessary for the maintenance of U.S. economic and political power.

But Trump's wider program of deregulation, privatization and cuts in government spending--including the repeal of Obamacare--will lower working-class living standards overall. Plus, any growth created by his policies is unlikely to reverse the long-term trends towards stagnation in the U.S. and global economy.

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WRITING ABOUT Trump's proposal for huge corporate and income tax cuts, Lawrence Summers, himself an architect of pro-business, neoliberal economic policy in the Clinton administration, wrote that Trump will "massively favor the top 1 percent of income earners, threaten an explosive rise in federal debt, complicate the tax code and do little if anything to spur growth."

This is Republican "voodoo economics" all over again. The wealthiest income-earners are likely to bank the estimated $215,000-a-year tax break they would receive--while middle-class and working-class people likelier to spend their share of any tax cuts would only receive about $2,000 a year under Trump's plan.

Trump's $1 trillion infrastructure plan is also underpowered. As Neil Loehlein pointed out at SocialistWorker.org, the amount needed just to rebuild existing U.S. infrastructure is more than three times that figure. And much of Trump's plan is built around tax breaks for private corporations, rather than government spending that could create jobs.

It's the kind of deal with guaranteed returns that Wall Street loves to finance--which is why it's no coincidence that former Goldman Sachs banker Steven Mnuchin is set to become Treasury Secretary, while the number-two Goldman executive, Gary Cohn, will leave the company to run Trump's National Economic Council.

In any event, a big stimulus centered on infrastructure is no guarantee of wider economic growth. The Japanese government's big spending on roads, bridges and more recently has not compensated for a failure of Japanese business to invest.

Protectionist measures that undo free-trade policies--a centerpiece of Trump's promises on the economy--might succeed in creating some industrial jobs at companies lured by tax breaks, lax regulations and anti-labor laws modeled on state-level "right to work" legislation imposed most recently in former union strongholds like Indiana, Michigan and Wisconsin.

But these jobs, if they ever materialize, would almost certainly not be the kind of decently paid ones that characterized the industrial Midwest 30 or 40 years ago.

Nevertheless, Trump's political advisers like Steve Bannon calculate that any job creation would yield political results for a Trump re-election campaign in 2020. As Bannon--former chief of the openly racist Breitbart News website--said in an interview:

Like [Andrew] Jackson's populism, we're going to build an entirely new political movement. It's everything related to jobs. The conservatives are going to go crazy. I'm the guy pushing a trillion-dollar infrastructure plan. With negative interest rates throughout the world, it's the greatest opportunity to rebuild everything. Shipyards, ironworks, get them all jacked up. We're just going to throw it up against the wall and see if it sticks. It will be as exciting as the 1930s, greater than the Reagan revolution--conservatives, plus populists, in an economic nationalist movement.

Of course, it's one thing for a demagogue like Bannon to spout off about "rebuilding everything" and quite another to imagine Wall Street or the Republican leadership in Congress going along with any such program.

This is essential to understand in any discussion of Trumponomics before Inauguration Day: The administration is filling up with figures who, on certain crucial points at least, disagree with each other, sometimes quite bitterly. Which faction wins out and on what terms is impossible to predict in advance.

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BREITBART'S MESSAGE about creating jobs and boosting manufacturing was part of the Trump campaign's appeal that won a substantial number of working-class votes in the industrial Midwest.

Intimately connected to employment was the issue of trade, especially with China. U.S. factory jobs were being lost, Trump said, because China keeps the value of its currency, the yuan, artificially low. Trump also blamed industrial job loss on NAFTA, the U.S. free trade deal with Canada and Mexico.

But it's worth remembering that the 2012 Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney also declared that, if elected, he would label China a "currency manipulator" and get tough on trade.

Barack Obama made similar promises when first running for president in 2008--and even spoke about renegotiating NAFTA, although an Obama adviser privately told Canadian officials that Obama had no intention of actually doing so. It was just a campaign promise meant to be broken.

Trump, however, is likely to try to take some action against China. Although he himself has benefitted from sourcing Trump-branded material in China and other low-wage countries, the incoming president speaks for a faction in Corporate America and the national security apparatus that is demanding more policies to check China's rise as both an economic and military power.

This approach isn't entirely new. The Obama administration's "pivot to Asia" was intended to hem in China's rising power by strengthening U.S. military alliances in the region and negotiating the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade deal, which excluded China.

From the standpoint of Corporate America, the TPP offered big gains by further enabling the offshoring of jobs whenever that would reduce costs, while safeguarding intellectual property and patents and entrenching their control over data and privacy to ensure the flow of profits back to the U.S.

Opposition to the TPP came initially from organized labor and the left, and the Bernie Sanders presidential campaign reflected their attitudes. The left objected both to the secret negotiations process, but also the NAFTA-style free hand that the deal would give to transnational companies.

On the right, the Trump campaign also spotlighted criticisms of the TPP, in part to cynically tap into popular anger against trade deals perceived to cost jobs, but also because he and his circle concluded the deal wouldn't address the fundamental problems for the U.S. created by China's growing industrial clout. In Trump's eyes, the U.S. would gain more from negotiating trade deals with individual countries rather than getting tied down in multilateral deals like the TPP.

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TRUMP'S SLOGAN "Make America Great Again" was shorthand for an economic nationalist program that's still taking shape.

But the big question is whether--and if so, how--a Bannon-type jobs program based on borrowing and economic nationalism can coexist with the mainstream Republican agenda of Congress and the investment bankers and capitalists who will occupy key strategic positions in the Trump administration.

Consider Trump's choice for Commerce Secretary, Wilbur Ross, the figure who is supposedly the most economic nationalist member of Trump's cabinet. Ross even gained the support of unions when he purchased bankrupt textile and steel companies in the early 2000s.

But in his takeover of the old LTV Steel, Ross made money by using bankruptcy proceedings to wipe out retiree pensions while slashing steelworkers' jobs. Ross' company quietly dismantled an entire steel mill in Cleveland and shipped it to...China! Ross then sold his U.S. steel holdings to Luxembourg-based ArcelorMittal for $4.5 billion.

A couple years later, the Ross-owned Sago nine in West Virginia exploded, killing 12 miners. More recently, Ross developed ties to China's coal industry.

If Ross' record is any guide to what Trump's make-America-great economic program will look like, it will be about the creation of low-wage jobs in poorly regulated industries.

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WHATEVER TRUMP ends up proposing will have to get through a Republican Congress that is bent on shredding what remains of the always-weak U.S. welfare state.

House Speaker Paul Ryan has long wanted to repeal Obamacare, introduce market "reforms" into Medicare and Medicaid, and privatize Social Security. The Tea Party faction in the House and the business interests that bankroll them will want all that and more.

Trump has already signaled that he'll be responsive to at least some of those demands. Thus, he named South Carolina Rep. Mick Mulvaney, co-founder of the House Freedom Caucus, as head of the Office of Management and Budget.

If Ryan and Congressional Republicans have their way, they'll not only slash spending on social programs, but also privatize or dismantle the government departments and agencies that administered them.

Thus, Trump appointed Betsy DeVos as Secretary of Education based on her record of successfully lobbying for and bankrolling the privatization of public education in Michigan, resulting in a string of dysfunctional charter schools in Detroit and across the state.

While not, strictly speaking, part of Trump's economic plan, his education policy will reward school privatizers, restrict funding to traditional public schools and launch a new round of attacks on teachers and their unions.

Given the contradictory proposals and rival factions around the Trump White House, it is impossible to predict what will actually make it into policy. But it's already clear that Trumponomics will bring more misery to working people.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby DrEvil » Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:33 pm

SonicG » Sun Jan 08, 2017 2:40 am wrote:
DrEvil » Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:19 am wrote:I mentioned Alexander Dugin somewhere in this thread as one of Putin's favorite ideologues. Just found his website: http://www.4pt.su/en


Is this the Paleo-Conservative view also?
We need to return to the Being, to the Logos, to the foundamental- ontology (of Heidegger), to the Sacred, to the New Middle Ages - and thus to the Empire, religion, and the institutions of traditional society (hierarchy, cult, domination of spirit over matter and so on). All content of Modernity - is Satanism and degeneration. Nothing is worth, everything is to be cleansed off. The Modernity is absolutely wrong -- science, values, philosophy, art, society, modes, patterns, "truths", understanding of Being, time and space. All is dead with Modernity. So it should end. We are going to end it.


Pretty much, yeah. "Empire, religion, and the institutions of traditional society" sounds like a paleocon wet dream.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:59 pm

THE RIGHT WING
5 Deranged Right-Wing Moments This Week From Trump on Down
This fish definitely stinks from the head.
By Janet Allon / AlterNet January 7, 2017

The tweeter-in-chief managed to keep the attention largely focused on himself this week with inane, reality-defying statements about hacking, television ratings and being a really "big fan" of intelligence.

If he wasn't so scary, he'd be ridiculous, but he is ridiculous as well as being really really scary. Those are the two realities we all need to hold simultaneously in our heads. And it hurts.

Discussing fears about his temperament and impending control of the nuclear arsenal, Kayleigh McEnany told a stunned CNN panel , "There hasn't been a nuclear war yet."

Is that supposed to make us feel better?

Here are five instances of deranged thinking emanating from the right-wing Trump-o-verse this week.

1. Trump displayed one of the sicker parts of his mentality.

Trump said all manner of nutty and troubling things about the burgeoning Russian hacking scandal this week—threatening to overhaul the intelligence community until it gives him the answers he wants, calling the whole matter a “political witch hunt,” and calling for an investigation of NBC rather than the Russians, among others. But he also pursued a story line that is of a piece with his general blame-the-victim mentality, saying the Democrats were at fault for being hacked in the first place.

“Gross negligence by the Democratic National Committee allowed hacking to take place,” he tweeted, “The Republican National Committee had strong defense!”

This, of course, is nonsense. All indications are that the hacking and leaks of information were to benefit Trump, and that the Democrats were targeted deliberately. The Republicans were also hacked, but the material was not leaked. But the tweet is also of a piece in the sick, sordid, empathy-bereft stew sloshing around in Trump’s mind. Trump, after all, blames losers for losing, prisoners of war for being captured, taxpayers for paying taxes, and for all we know agrees with his pal and cabinet appointee Ben Carson that shooting victims are to blame for just sitting there and letting themselves get shot.

We are all in deep, deep trouble, but you knew this already.

2. Kellyanne Conway has a bizarre misunderstanding of her own style.

In a contentious interview with CNN’s Chris Cuomo this week, Kellyanne Conway did all the dodging, bobbing and weaving she could muster to avoid answering the direct question Cuomo had posed about hacking. The topic was Trump’s false assertion that no one brought up the hacking story until after the election.

"Third time: Did Clapper come out in early October and say we know Russia is behind the hacks, period, full stop?" Cuomo said, growing obviously impatient. Conway, who had evaded the question thus far, tried to change the subject.

Cuomo would not let her. "Why won't the president-elect acknowledge what is so clear to the intelligence community that Russia was involved in the hacks?" he asked.

Finally, Conway, whom Rachel Maddow aptly dubbed a “puppet without a hand,” advanced her counter-offensive, which was to accuse those who are so concerned about Russian interference in the election on behalf of Trump as trying to "delegitimize his presidency."

That would be a dirty trick, one which would certainly appall the birther-in-chief and his spokes-pods. Only the lowest pond scum would try to delegitimize a president selected by an overwhelming minority of the American electorate.

Cuomo said he was "just trying to put the facts out there" and accused Conway of "ducking the obvious."

To which she took great umbrage. "Hey, Chris, I'm not ducking a thing. Not my style."

Then she collapsed in a heap from all the ducking, dodging and weaving she had performed.

3. Mitch McConnell turns out to have hilarious sense of humor.

When Senator Chuck Schumer intimated that at least some Democrats might have some backbone in fighting what are sure to be Trump’s extremist Supreme Court nominees, Republicans were outraged. How dare Democrats tear a page from the Republican obstructionist playbook. No fair!

Trump’s reaction was to oh-so-presidentially tweet that Schumer, with whom the PEOTUS had previously had cordial relations, was the Democrats’ “head clown” in an otherwise typo-filled tweet. Moments later, having suffered something resembling a brain aneurysm, he tweeted that Democrats and Republicans need to work together to gut Obamacare and deprive millions of life-saving health insurance. A real kumbaya moment.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell seems to have a case of amnesia that unfolds over a longer time frame than the nine minutes that passed between Trump’s contradictory tweets. McConnell’s response to Schumer’s laying down of the gauntlet was: “Apparently there’s yet a new standard now, which is to not confirm a Supreme Court candidate at all. I think that’s something the American people simply will not tolerate.”

Oh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, Mitch! It’s not as if you spear-headed the blockade against even considering President Obama's middle-of-the-road nominee to fill the late Justice Antonin Scalia's seat, Merrick Garland in an unprecedented act of craven obstructionism.

Good one, “American people will not tolerate . . . ,” stop, our sides are hurting.

4. Tomi Lahren gave us the perfect reminder that she is an unconscionable monster.

Finally, the right wing got the fodder it needed to rail about black people committing crimes again. That’s been a lot harder lately with crime rates plunging in general, black on white crime practically non-existent, and the trial of white racist mass church murderer Dylann Roof grabbing the whole spotlight.

No person with the decency level of a toenail would politicize the horrendously cruel, days-long attack on a mentally disabled man in Chicago this week, video of which appeared on Facebook, and in many major media outlets until it was taken down.

Enter right-wing YouTube star Tomi Lahren, who quickly displayed her uncanny ability to take hatefulness to new unprecedented heights by mashing together this apparent hate-crime with Dylann Roof’s black church massacre. Other right-wing commentators, like the not-at-all reformed Glenn Beck, hastened to blame the peaceful Black Lives Matter movement for the attack, without a shred of evidence other than the fact that the assailants appeared to be black. Lahren derided the media, the police and Obama for not immediately calling the assault a hate crime. Which they actually did.

“Chicago police aren’t sure if it was politically motivated,” Lahren said. “Are you freaking kidding me? This is the definition of a hate crime, and these four sick individuals deserve a seat on death row right next to Dylann Roof.”

Hmmm. Really? Nine slaughtered, one assaulted. Same.

Her tirade continued as she very originally blamed the decline of black families, inner cities, and hip-hop culture for the assault, and demanded Black Lives Matter disavow the attackers. (They did, of course, with DeRay McKesson describing the attackers as “thugs.”) Try as we might, we cannot remember similar hand-wringing over the decline of the white family, rural lifestyles and country music when Roof was arrested. Did we miss when white nationalists like Steve Bannon and Lahren herself disavowed Roof? Or when anyone described remorseless, lilywhite Roof as a thug?

Most of the right-wing commentators made hay out of the racial and political aspects of the crime—the attackers insulted their victim for supporting Trump, whether or not it’s true. The sickening frequency of attacks on the disabled barely seemed to register and was not politically useful.

5. Newt Gingrich crawls out from under a rock to say something stupid.

In a shocking development (not), Trump fanboy Newt Gingrich blamed President Obama for the fact that four black Chicagoans committed a horrific crime.

This makes perfect sense to Newt. It is also why he is always welcome to appear on Fox & Friends where he can make these nonsensical statements to his heart's content.

Gingrich's reasoning appears to be this: Obama is black and he sometimes talks, and this increases racial tension.

“I think a lot of their language, a lot of their approach heightened that sense of racial tension,” Gingrich said of the Obama administration. “And I think we have to oppose white racism, we also have to oppose black racism.”

Ummm, whaaaa? Did he miss the part where Obama called the livestreamed attack a “despicable hate crime?" Did we miss the part where Obama juiced up racial tension? Apparently, he did this by being black and occupying the White House and by producing a birth certificate that said he was not born in Kenya.

“And I think if this had been done to an African-American by four whites, every liberal in the country would be outraged and there would be no question that it’s a hate crime,” Newt continued.

Earth to Moonrocket Newt. Liberals too were outraged by the cruelty shown to this disabled man.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby JackRiddler » Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:04 pm

If you say all indications, it must be true!

All indications are that the hacking and leaks of information were to benefit Trump, and that the Democrats were targeted deliberately. The Republicans were also hacked, but the material was not leaked.


No, this is not what "Grizzly Steppe" says. Phishing e-mails were sent to hundreds of U.S. and non U.S., government and corporate targets. Therefore the Democrats were not even targeted as such. Podesta and the DNC both responded to the phishing, giving up their own e-mails. It is not clear that the phishing was not sent to the RNC or Republicans, or if it was, whether they responded.

It's also without evidence presented that the phishing was by Russian intel, or that the e-mails thus harvested were leaked to Wikileaks. But anyway, this author is a fool who does not even know the official story. Thus vital to say "ALL INDICATIONS." Because it's none.

This author is a fool. An openly racist and violent campaign was first made by the corporate media. Then they won the election on the strength of voter suppression and FBI assistance (as well as the terrible campaign run by Clinton). "Russia" is a huge distraction nearly guaranteed to play out to Trump's favor. Fucking idiot journalists who have not even read the goernment reports are bleating out the CIA line. The CIA is not your friend, they are merely disciplining Trump.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:11 pm

disciplining Trump


who else is gonna do it? :P
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:31 pm

Two Million Dollars a Day to Protect Trump and his Family, But It's About to Get a Lot More Expensive...


BY MIKE MILLER

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Protecting the President of the United States and his family is a costly undertaking. Toss in Donald Trump's New York City penthouse and Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Florida, and protecting this president and his family is going to be very costly.

Add reports that Melania and 10-year-old son Barron will continue living at Trump Tower through the end of Barron's school year in June, and the cost goes even higher.

Sources told The New York Post the Secret Service is negotiating with the Trump Organization to take over two floors of Trump Tower, and will run a 24/7 command post with the New York Police Department — 40 floors below Trump’s $90 million penthouse.

Trump's situation is unique in that taxpayers will be paying Trump's own corporation for the cost of the two floors and related infrastructure — aside from the normal costs of Secret Service agents, staff, and equipment and barriers.

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As president, Trump and his family will be protected by more than 920 Secret Service agents and support personnel in both Washington D.C. and New York City, as reported by NBC News.

Right now, the cost to taxpayers is more than $2 million a day, the documents show, a number that is sure to increase whenever the president or the first lady travels — or when the threat level rises.

Meanwhile, the New York Police Department is already handling external security at Trump Tower, the president-elect's Manhattan home base, at an estimated cost of $1 million per day.

Terry Sullivan of the White House Transition Project explained the complexity.

"You have to be able to conduct a global war from the front porch — that is just the reality of the situation.

They would need at least a whole floor, and every apartment on that floor would need to be turned into an office."

Complicating matters further — and driving up costs even more — is Trump's plan to return to New York on weekends to spend time with Melania and Barron.

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Former Secret Service agent, Evy Poumpouras, hopes Trump will change his mind.

"This is one of those situations where they really should have an honest conversation with him and just really explain to him that this is not a good idea.

To physically re-create the security that exists at the White House in New York City, it's not going to happen.

There's buses going by. There's trucks going by. When that detonates, that building is not going to withstand that blast."

However, having the government as a major tenant would be a boon for Trump Tower, which has seen sales and rentals drop by nearly 40 percent in the past year — due in large part to stepped-up security and protests.

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Image Credit: Spencer Platt/Getty Images
A top New York real estate broker told The Post that wealthy tenants aren't happy.

“They can’t get into their own homes without being stopped and frisked and having to show ID. These are wealthy people. They don’t need this, and they can’t take it any longer.

They no longer want to stay there. Some of them are already planning on moving out, and they’ll decide later whether or not they want to sell."

Hey, who wouldn't want to see the “Naked Cowboy,” as he's known, perform in the lobby after coming home from a long, hard day at work?

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Image Credit: Spencer Platt/Getty Images
Then there's Mar-a-Lago

Trump's 126-room, 110,000-square-foot mansion in Palm Beach, Florida, will also get a makeover by the Secret Service, as Sullivan explained.

“The Secret Service regularly upgrades a president's off-campus residence. Typically, it includes security apparatus and global communications.”

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Finally, the Trumps will have some adjusting to do, regardless of where they might be at any given time, as former Secret Service agent Jonathan Wackrow told NBC.

"Secret Service protection is the most intrusive thing that anyone could ever experience. We experience parts of your life, but we're also there in those private times when things aren't good — family arguments, family loss.

We're there when staff goes away and the military goes away. The only ones left are the Secret Service agents. We're there 24 hours a day, 365 days a year."

Two questions remain: how will the maverick that is Donald Trump react to the intrusion and how will taxpayers react to the cost?
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They could still get him out of office.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby stefano » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:40 am

Ha. This is from Charlie Brooker's 2016 Wipe, I caught it last night.

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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Heaven Swan » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:19 am

This Quora question and answer really sum it up.
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Why can't protesters just accept that Hillary lost and Donald Trump was elected fairly?
He's our leader and we should all support him.

Wow. This is not the point. And it disturbs me that Trump supporters still refuse to “get it”. Trump was elected fairly.

That’s not the issue. Hillary supporters are not upset because our opponent won.
We are upset that 25% of our fellow citizens thought it was a good idea to elect to the presidential office a man who is openly racist, homophobic and misogynistic.

That’s the point. We’re not upset about Trump. We’re upset about you.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:10 pm

Security analyst: Trump is going to ‘gut the intelligence community’ to cover up Russia hacks
Tom Boggioni TOM BOGGIONI
07 JAN 2017 AT 11:28 ET


Appearing on MSNBC’s AM Joy, a nationalsecurity specialist speculated that President-elect Donald Trump will “gut” the U.S. intelligence community after he is sworn in as part of an effort make the investigation into Russian influence in the election go away.

“Let’s just get to Donald Trump’s refusal to be able to accept, Malcolm, the conclusions of the intelligence community even when the head of the intelligence agencies are sitting in front of him telling him this happened,” host Joy Reid asked. “Why in your view will he not just accept it?”

According to analyst Malcolm Nance, Trump graduated from Russia’s “unwitting useful idiot” to ally when he asked them to hack Hillary Clinton’s emails during the Democratic National Convention in July.

“I think because, when Donald Trump made his statement on July 27th of last year where he asked for Russia to hack Hillary Clinton and release her e-mails, at that point he went from being an unwitting useful idiot to Russia to actually believing that they were working in his favor,” Nance explained. “To admit that now, in the face of all the evidence, he would believe that this would delegitimize his presidency and he will fight to the end to not allow this to become a narrative.”

“I suspect that in two weeks he’s going to attempt to cover this all up and even gut the intelligence community,” Nance continued before adding, “He is pushing this nation to a constitutional crisis of unprecedented magnitude, because no one has ever worked in the interests of a hostile nation and supporting, to a certain extent, a hostile intelligence service.”

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Malcolm Nance is a globally recognized counterterrorism expert and Intelligence Community member who has been deployed to intelligence operations in the Balkans, Middle East, and sub-Saharan Africa. He is the author of five books, including the New York Times bestseller Defeating ISIS, and is a counterterrorism analyst for NBC News and MSNBC.

His most recent book is The Plot to Hack America: How Putin’s Cyberspies and WikiLeaks Tried to Steal the 2016 Election.
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