Jimmy Savile: I'd like to comment but I can't...

[Col. Quisp]

re: Peter Righton

I finally watched this .it is from 1994 I think. Just incredible that despite these interviews nothing was done. Also ironic in that the BBC produced it.

[cptmarginal]

Families to boycott festival after Jimmy Savile float won prize

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/technology ... ncy-dress/

Halloween is a month away, and we’ve already had the first bout of public outrage about fancy dress. Tesco and Asda were forced to apologise for stocking a “mental patient” costume which featured fake blood, a mask and a fake meat cleaver. The supermarkets were right to say sorry for encouraging misconceptions about mentally ill people, even if it was unintentional.

But what about fancy dress costumes which are deliberately offensive? “Bad taste” outfits are de rigueur at the moment, and at any student party you’re likely to find the mandatory idiot dressed as Himmler or a “paedophile pope”. Last year it was Jimmy Savile, and there are still plenty of ready-made Savile outfits for sale on Amazon, including a “Zombie Jimmy” outfit and a two part “bad taste mask set,” featuring Savile and fellow paedophile Gary Glitter. Having consulted my parents and other people born before 1989, it appears this trend to offend with your outfit is quite a new one (although, of course, Jimmy Savile costumes have been consistently popular for different reasons).

In fact, the popularity of offensive costumes is part of a general boom for the UK fancy dress industry. Sales are significantly higher than five years ago, and you can’t visit a city centre without encountering a group decked head to toe in overpriced tat. Never before have the costumes been so complex and diverse, nor the pressure to impress so high. Perhaps the sick jokes are a British twist on a very American tradition, or maybe they are caused by the inherent competitiveness in serious fancy dress, where the goal is to get a reaction: amazement, amusement or just plain anger.

And they usually get a reaction. We live in an age of outrage, where every offensive remark invites a thousand protests from an angry mob. The way photos are saved and shared online means there are no private jokes any more – wearing a jokey costume is a very public statement. Once a member of a minority group sees an offensive picture, they mobilise and a media storm begins. That’s what happened in August when a Jimmy Savile-themed float (which included men dressed as school girls) was allowed to participate in a Scottish fancy dress parade. These moments of anger are becoming increasingly common, and the way they play out is always similar. Which is probably why, according to Google Trends, uses of the words “vile” and “disgusting” (the red faced angry mob’s favourite words) have been steadily increasing since 2005.

But when we lament the rise of the sensitivity lobby, we forget how often outrage is caused by people who go out looking for it, and then claim to be surprised when they get it. Is there any sight more ridiculous than someone bemoaning over-sensitivity and PC Britain while dressed as a sexual predator? Surely causing offence was the intention: it’s not exactly good, clean fun. The problem with bad taste outfits is they aren’t even funny. They are unimaginative attention-seeking, straight out of the teenage “banter” playbook, along with jokes about the Holocaust. The only way to deal with this kind of idiocy is to expose it to public ridicule.

There is no right to not be offended, of course. Just because they are idiotic and have absolutely no cultural value, it doesn't follow that we should stop people dressing up as Mugabe or Savile or whoever. But before we complain about political correctness and over-sensitivity, we might also question why people want to dress up as a paedophile, and think about encouraging them not to.

I much prefer Jim'll Fix It costumes to jokes about genocide if given the choice, thank you very much.

I searched Amazon using the autocomplete suggestion "jimmy savile fancy dress" and didn't see any right away. But I did notice that there's an authorized Savile biography, that's pretty funny.

http://www.amazon.com/Sir-Jimmy-Savile- ... 905080301/

[cptmarginal]

This whole affair really deserves some more international press coverage, it's so fucking crazy. I came across this just now:

Man tells of agony at the hands of BBC paedo ring involving DJ Alan Freeman and evil pal Jimmy Savile - The traumatised victim claims he was just 11 when German film actor Victor Beaumont lured him to his plush London flat where the BBC stars raped him

I won't copy the full text here, but this part is so extreme that it's really unfair to characterize these people as just pederasts.

“I could feel different people grabbing me. There were hands everywhere. I

was cut down my left arm and there was a lot of blood.”

The man said he passed out but heard his attackers arguing outside the bedroom door when he regained consciousness.

[RocketMan]

This whole affair really deserves some more international press coverage, it's so fucking crazy. I came across this just now:

Man tells of agony at the hands of BBC paedo ring involving DJ Alan Freeman and evil pal Jimmy Savile - The traumatised victim claims he was just 11 when German film actor Victor Beaumont lured him to his plush London flat where the BBC stars raped him

I won't copy the full text here, but this part is so extreme that it's really unfair to characterize these people as just pederasts.

“I could feel different people grabbing me. There were hands everywhere. I

was cut down my left arm and there was a lot of blood.”

The man said he passed out but heard his attackers arguing outside the bedroom door when he regained consciousness.

Sometimes it feels that to actually call them "people" is to give them too much credit.

This is a truly revolting saga.

[Col Quisp]

I like the little sign on the book that says "Look Inside." They should add, "If you dare!" It is really sickening.

[Searcher08]

It was sickening to read that... not sure of what the equivalent in the US would have been, (perhaps Casey Casem?) but DJ Alan Freeman flew the flag for rock in the UK - there was a whole generation of 70s rock people who loved him - he was like a one man rock news service, did great in-depth interviews with bands, limitless enthusiasm... he was totally a part of growing up for myself and schoolfriends -
Reading about these real horrors is like losing a part of oneself; I choose to fill that gap with the bravery of the man who came forward to tell the truth.

[RocketMan]

It was sickening to read that... not sure of what the equivalent in the US would have been, (perhaps Casey Casem?) but DJ Alan Freeman flew the flag for rock in the UK - there was a whole generation of 70s rock people who loved him - he was like a one man rock news service, did great in-depth interviews with bands, limitless enthusiasm... he was totally a part of growing up for myself and schoolfriends -
Reading about these real horrors is like losing a part of oneself; I choose to fill that gap with the bravery of the man who came forward to tell the truth.

I find this part intriguing in the whole sorry Jimmy Savile story. He seems to have been (he came up on my radar only through the posthumous revelations) truly a cultural fixture in the UK for generations. I'd imagine the whole thing has traumatised a good portion of the entire UK population. In this sense, his having "groomed the nation" really captures the situation well.

[RocketMan]

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/o ... lice-abuse

Police have released the transcript of a 2009 interview with Jimmy Savile in which the disgraced former BBC presenter bullishly dismisses child sexual abuse allegations against him and threatens aggressive legal action to shut down the claims.

A sense of how the man, believed to be one of Britain's most prolific paedophile abusers, saw himself as beyond the law emerges from the transcript, in which Surrey police interrogators appear to take an almost deferential approach.

The interview with Savile, who is asked by officers at the outset if it is OK to call him "Jimmy", was carried out under caution at an office used by the presenter at the National Spinal Injuries Centre at Stoke Mandeville hospital, one of many locations where he is thought to have abused children over decades.

The late DJ, who was a fundraiser for the hospital, told the officers that while the NHS ran the hospital, "I own it."

[Searcher08]

The more this goes on, the more connections Savile apppears to have had, the greater the sanctions from the PTB. He was awarded medals by the Pope, was a personal long-standing friend of UK royalty, Christmas/New Year guest of Margret Thatcher, friend of the Bushes, was connected to the Israeli Right, involved in the Northern Ireland far right / Intel / Loyalists / Sinn Fein nexus of the Kincora scandal ( a kind of Belfast 'Franklin Scandal'), was deeply interested in satanism, ran the UK's top psychiatric hospital as a private fiefdom, was a friend of serial killers, described himself as a 'working very deep-cover', was showered with gratitude by Thatcher...

After all this blew wide open, I think we are further away than ever from understanding what on Earth was going on with him, but my intuition is that he operated at the very pinnacle circles of whatever constitutes 'deep political' power.

WHAT WAS HE?

[RocketMan]

was deeply interested in satanism

I remember reading something about a victim reporting seeing him in a robe, but has he himself gone on record about this...? Or which sources report this..?

[cptmarginal]

was deeply interested in satanism

I remember reading something about a victim reporting seeing him in a robe, but has he himself gone on record about this...? Or which sources report this..?

The same question occurred to me upon reading that. Not that I need evidence of literal Satanism on the part of Savile in order for me to consider his actions as profoundly evil.

So, just to recap, here's the (graphic) allegations:

Jimmy Savile was part of satanic ring - JIMMY SAVILE beat and raped a 12-year-old girl during a secret satanic ritual in a hospital.

What's the deal with the Daily Express? They have a pretty impressive "controversy" section on Wikipedia.

This blog that makes some specific accusations about him also has content that should be read with caution:

Daffodil Rites. Personal Blog of a Ritual Abuse and Mind Control Survivor with Dissociative Identity Disorder.

See also, for dark humor:

A leading barrister who previously criticised the ‘witch-hunt’ of ageing celebrities accused of sexual abuse has likened allegations of ritual satanic abuse by Jimmy Savile as being as unlikely as “alien abduction”.

After all this blew wide open, I think we are further away than ever from understanding what on Earth was going on with him, but my intuition is that he operated at the very pinnacle circles of whatever constitutes 'deep political' power.

WHAT WAS HE?

Yeah, it's really mind-boggling on a continual basis. One can only wonder what sort of fraternal affiliations etc. he privately had, considering his public profile.

[cptmarginal]

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/oct/15/jimmy-savile-boasted-police-abuse

Police have released the transcript of a 2009 interview with Jimmy Savile in which the disgraced former BBC presenter bullishly dismisses child sexual abuse allegations against him and threatens aggressive legal action to shut down the claims.

A sense of how the man, believed to be one of Britain's most prolific paedophile abusers, saw himself as beyond the law emerges from the transcript, in which Surrey police interrogators appear to take an almost deferential approach.

The interview with Savile, who is asked by officers at the outset if it is OK to call him "Jimmy", was carried out under caution at an office used by the presenter at the National Spinal Injuries Centre at Stoke Mandeville hospital, one of many locations where he is thought to have abused children over decades.

The late DJ, who was a fundraiser for the hospital, told the officers that while the NHS ran the hospital, "I own it."

This is the full transcript of an interview with Surrey police from October 2009 which has been released under the Freedom of Information Act

Click on the "pages" button and check out how much is redacted!

[blankly]

Satanism accusations. A person who was associated with enabling his entry into medical institutions (a former senior civil servant) was named by a survivor known to me as a satanic abuser, in detailed allegations. It was not the first such allegation brought against that man. When/if he is arrested and charged, I'll start to believe that the current operation does have a brief to pursue investigation.

[Iamwhomiam]

Savile Chauffeur David Smith Found Dead

Sky NewsSky News – 1 hour 8 minutes ago



A former driver charged with sex offences as part of the investigation triggered by allegations of abuse against Jimmy Savile has been found dead.

David Smith, 66, was the first person to be charged by officers from the Metropolitan Police's Operation Yewtree investigation.

He had pleaded not guilty in July to two counts of indecent assault and two of gross indecency on a child following his arrest in December.

But he failed to turn up at Southwark Crown Court in London on Monday for the start of his trial, prompting police to go to his home in Effingham Road, Lewisham.

Scotland Yard said: "At approximately 1420 officers entered the address and found the body of a man. A FME (forensic medical examiner) attended and pronounced the man dead at the scene. Next of kin are being informed."

Smith's barrister, Sandy Canavan, had told the court she was "concerned" that her solicitor had been unable to contact him ahead of the trial as she had regularly been in touch with him.

She told the court Smith was the sole carer for his elderly mother.

Police have separated the Yewtree investigation into three parts, the first concerned with the actions of Savile, while the second concerns allegations against what has become known as 'Savile and others'.

Mr Smith was investigated under the third strand, concerning accusations of sexual abuse unconnected to Savile but made by people who came forward following publicity surrounding the Savile allegations.

Edited to add: Savile's Chauffeur Bailed Over Sex Offences

[AhabsOtherLeg]

I always meant to thank conniption for that Peter Righton documentary as well. It is horrific, and I wish they wouldn't include quite so much film from his home movies, but it is essential to the bigger picture.

For decades, one of the most senior childcare experts in the UK, with special oversight on the children's care homes system, was a paedophile. Not only was he a paedophile, and a member of a well-known paedophile organisation, but he wrote books about it, which many of his colleagues in the social and child care field must have read at the time. Some of them are still available on Amazon.

EDIT: Removed link, since I can't be sure these are all books by the same Peter Righton, but at least one of the ones about social work, counselling, etc. definitely is by him.

There are whole chapters in his works about how intergenerational sexual relationships are not harmful in his view (an opinion I have heard more than once from academic types)... yet he kept his job for decades.

Thanks to iamwhoiam for that up to date news on one of Savile's chauffeurs as well.

To echo what Searcher08 said - "WHAT WAS HE?" - I have always liked this comment from the early days of the expose/investigation. Can't remember where I copied it from, and it's not the most detailed or informative thing I've ever read on the subject, but it does get right to the nub of the matter:

Savile mixed with everybody who was anybody, didn't he?

Waltzing around Buck Palace in his tracksuit, free access to the Houses of Parliament, Broadmoor, policemen round for tea on a Friday morn and chauffeuring him around, Prime Ministers having him over for long Christmas fireside chats year after year, Dukes, Princes, Princesses, Queens, priests, vicars, cardinals, even popes.

There was no section of society, no building in the land that he was excluded from, was there? Total access. A nonce gangster rapist, swanning around with monarchs and aristos and Popes and cardinals and Lords and ministers for 50 years.